I thought this was/.? I must be on ZDNet with all the worthless & unimaginative drones on the board!
OK, let's start again!
Let's start with Morphix/Knoppix as a base module. They are consistant and fairly stable in development. Next, lets set up the drives with stored configs, persistant home, and swap file...[note to self, may need winXP script to set up files in NT systems. As long as the file size is exactly the same Knoppix doesn't have a problem] Now adding an SDK for compatibility....Let's see both Morphix and Knoppix now support the idea of modules...precompiled & zipped up add-ons keyed to working with the disc. These would be useful for the SDK, and for the games. Again, they could sit on ANY file system. You could download new SDK modules to your HDD when you get new hardware! Knoppix is based on Debian which has execllent forward & backward compatiblity built in!! Knoppix suports External everything out of the box, USB keys, memory cards, external drives...storage of game saves is a moot point.
WE have forward and backward compatiblity, removable storage, extensability of the game & OS. The only things missing are a few key bits of software. One would need to establish a very strict API [SDL perhaps] and carefully guide it for this purpose. There would need to be work done on the game end to optimize for varied requirememts/ best play.
Overall, it's doable RIGHT NOW! So stop bitchin' about it! Try offering some constructive soulutions instead!!
He's complaining it didn't save stuff right away to his hard drive. I was explaining that there is a very good reason Knoppix doesn't "automatically" do anything with your HDD!
I can't write freehand. I can't think at the paltry speed of a pencil or obsolecent ink pen. My ideas move too fast for that, and if I have to wait for my hand to catch up, they're gone.
That right there is the biggest difference. Most "Writers" are writing for the pleasure of writing. The fact that you're rushing to put the words on paper is what they are trying to avoid. If it's worth saying, you should be able to remember it long enough to write it down!
Also, computers get in the way for lots of people. I'm still old enough that pen and paper is much easier for important drafts than sitting at a computer [cursing Bill G] for hours. I'm still a wacko that likes to write code out before ever wasting time at the PC typing it in. Computers are too busy [and I'm a sysadmin]---when most people want quiet to think clearly.
It's the difference between craft and production. Why restore an old car by hand when you can get a new one factory-fresh for cheaper? Because the act of writing is the art, not the presentation..someone else will make those choices anyway..Why waste time and fustration on them before creating the actual work.
Re:flaming debian-legal list=legal issues?
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I don't believe that Knoppix Xine has any "cracks" on it. As far as I know it's just vanilla...And that's the point. Klaus is only 1 person. He doesn't have the time to fight over trivial issues and kill his whole project! He's doing it for FUN not to make any kind of "point".
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as a network tech...
I happen to know for fact that Knoppix [3.2] works with the 3Com USB/ethernet networking dongle! That is an absolute lifesaver when you have PCs with no/broken nics. The ability to at least capture work from a borked HDD is worth it's weight in gold [ok it's a CD..that's not very much]
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Give it a try. It doesn't always work 100%, but it works most of the time. Also, read up on the Cheatcodes...They let you modify it right from the boot screen to cope with difficult hardware.
Most PCs that can boot from a CDROM should be able to run knoppix. The only way you'll know for sure is to try it out [no harm in trying!] or to read up on specifics on the forum if there's a particular piece of hardware you know you need to support.
Please, try it...You can't really HURT any PCs with it so it's always worth a try!
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Don't ever trust something important to a program you've never used before. That's just stupid computer usage!
Frankly, you didnt' give this nearly a fair trial. I read other posts, and you didn't take the time to even learn what Knoppix was, or how to work it before you trusted you life's work to it. Had you read up a little before jumping in, you would have learned how to do everything you wanted in about an hour. Been running from start to configured in 10 minutes, and not lost a thing! Even been able to save that file so you could open it in windows!!! Knoppix is meant to "Do no harm!' that means it doesn't write to ANYTHING without you giving it express permission...on NT boxes writing to a drive is lethal--It couldn't assume that you wanted anything saved.
Read up at Knoppix.net! Check out the FAQs, and browse the forums for an evening before trying it out again. You might find that you'll like it!
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That was a special one-time deal. There are places to get it [it's Linux after all] but it's a huge download. Also, He doesn't have the resources to support multiple versions....Knoppix is mostly a One Man show. It's his baby, and that's the way it goes.
If you don't like that try one of about a dozen other "forks" of Knoppix: ClusterKnoppix, Morphix, Knoppix-STD, etc. There are lots of other people basing work off from Knoppix...You could even make one yourself! That's the beauty of it!
Re:After you get it, Help Advertise Knoppix.
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Great idea, but you have to help the newbies out! Knoppix is GREAT for new users. Most modern [not bleeding edge] hardware works right away. You can even setup Web, email, samba, etc. all from the disk.
It's great to show Bosses, because you don't have to wreck a computer to use it! But an AOL style mass mailing would be a really, really bad idea. It still requires somebody to SHOW how to use it, otherwise people will hate it rather than like it!
The Knoppix DVD was a special one-time-only deal for LinuxTag in germany. There are places you can get it online [extra copies] and if someone is willing, you could download it.
Mostly, it's to hard for the One Guy [Klaus Knopper] and a couple friends to keep up more than 1 offical version. So for quality-sake, they don't do that, and try to keep one version they can test throughly and do a really GREAT JOB on! It's better that way.
Not really, The VIA edens fill an important niche in computing...they run with low enough power and x86 compatible to use regular off-the-shelf auto/boat/hobbie batteries as power supplies for a USEABLE amount of time. P4s are nice, but 100W power usage will suck any batteries dry in minutes..not very useable. Also, the size lets you put a PC anywhere you want. Add linux to the mix and you can get a tiny, purpose-built "black Box" for cheap!
Only problem is that it doesn't import any metadata. hyperlinks, bookmarks, etc...It's just a cold rip of the pages. That limits it's usefullness because you can't do anything with the resultant PDF [i.e. HR manual, reports, manuals] just look at it. That's severly limiting for corperate use.
Yeah, they abuse their own people but that was OK when the people were reproducing American IP for American Capitalists.
OOPS! China has decided to use all that cheap labor the American compainies set up to build their OWN tech sector and the Americans are crying foul...But hey, our stuff all says "Made in China" on it anyway...How are we to tell the difference...and why should we?
China, along with southeast asia and perhaps India too is more like 1/3-1/2 the population [and future poplulation]! They can pretty much do what they want. As far as competing, don't they MAKE all our stuff over there? I don't see them having any future compatibality problems with US...maybe we will have problems with them [them as the majority]
Actually you can pick up the lower end version of Envy in the M Revolution board! It's about 100 clams at the local electronics store. Unlike the Original Audagiy, it has nifty things like real 192KHz and 48 bit audio [remember these were out several years ago!]...that's why it's in a 300 clam card.
That said, there was a EPIA prototype over on mini-itx.com after the last show that was an Envy on a itx board! very cool!
What are the cross-platform uses of PHP-GTK. It looks like a great VB replacememt, but can it run on Windows, Linux, BSD, and OSX [more?] without changing the programming? I've played with it and it looks really cool. Also, do any of the IDEs support PHP-GTK [i.e. Zend or others] that would be really cool.
MS has spent years chipping away at IBM, Sun, Oracle, etc "premium" solutions...Look at old versions of Visual Basic and MS SQL. Now THEY have a "premium" soulution and of course PHP is there to keep them from realizing it.
Seems reasonable. After all most in-house stuff would not have an actual "income" combine with the fact that many PHP programmers are hobbiests or students not really out to make a buck. I'd venture 10-20% of the entries were $0 cost which wrecks the average for the top end.
But look at visual basic. For every highpaid project that uses VB [may not include whole salary here] there's 10 students/hobbiests making screensaver for free/shareware. The average visual basic is probably not much more than what PHP is.
Remember PHP [and web development in general] is still mostly a hobbie market. Most websites are created by someone who "knows a guy" etc. I could split $6k/ month as a side job and be quite happy with the extra cash. [75k is more twice what I make right now at my day job!] Pros are going to be doing more like 2-3 web sites [concurrently] in 30 days and of course charging a bit more for that service.
First, this isn't nearly the same S3 that made anything you likely have. While they got back their engineers from after the crash and sale to VIA, this is VIAs ballgame now. That said, you probably didn't hear from S3 because at the time you were writing them they most likely didn't exist except on paper! VIA has been embedding the S3 cores on their northbridges for a while now...they do OK but won't win any awards.
Via makes: C3 cpu [a joke, but still a cpu], northbridge, southbridge, S3 embeded video on chipsets + discret parts, Firewire phy layer, USB 2.0, and Envy sound chips. Enter the EPIA that everyone is so fond of [hey! it's cute] Via makes the whole thing in house! It may be low end, and cheap, but they make the whole thing so they get every red cent they can squeeze out of it! Oh they also make many other "driver" chips for CD ROMS, and other devices. They probably make just as many, if not more, parts as intel in-house. They're a sleeping giant waiting for an opportunity...like the EPIA boards!
Electric motors have considerably lower rotational inertia..just motor, gearbox, wheel no crankcase, flywheels, transmision, or axles. Electric motors also have most of their torque at stall speed which ramps up to full at about half the rated amps. In reality, there wouldn't be any doubt about electrics at all if you could just get a decent battery. After all, carrying aroung 500-1200 LBS of extra batteries has pretty much shot electric cars in the foot as far as performance!
But read what's not being said by the 3d chipmakers. They seem to be afraid of MS retaliation if they get too involved with linux or Mac 3d gaming. Look what happened with Nvidia. Between the lines it looks like MS derailed Nvidia for jacking with the Xbox part contract....nothing offical, but you gotta wonder. MS still seems to be very much in the playing favorites game...more so if they think they can go back to having "competition" with Linux, they may feel the need to "sacrifice" someone as an example.
Remember that DirectX was supposed to turn Windows machines into consoles...for the most part it did...but MS split the market to make a quick buck. Only after Linux has started making in-roads are the showing a "recommitment" to DirectX to prevent a mass exodus. That and buying up PC 3D patents so nobody else CAN compete if they decide to grab for it all!
Yes, I mean just like the Gentoo live CD...Pop it in and play away.
Yes, it's a step backward into the world of dos gamming...but if MS was to sabotage windows [highly possible] then a live CD video game system would be a great alternative. After all, everyone spends all sorts of time tweaking out a system. Why not let the game have the whole thing to itself. I'm sure there could be a way to not reboot between games [virtual machines, etc], or use the game from a desktop. There are too many different Linux "desktops" out there to effectively deal with without simply dictating like this anyway! But, the point is for the game to take care of itself "just like a console" This way a game disc could be written to run on any x86 PC without worrying about Windows or Linux...
As soon as you get rid of dealing with other software on a computer, getting games working becomes many times easier..well worth the trouble. You'd also have some HDD access for swap, saves, and drivers. Like I said above, the API would have to be extremely well controlled so that drivers and such would work for years on old and new mixes of machines. It'd just require out-engineering MS.. which OSS brags about regularly anyway! This is the "outside-the-box" solution!
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OK, let's start again!
Let's start with Morphix/Knoppix as a base module. They are consistant and fairly stable in development. Next, lets set up the drives with stored configs, persistant home, and swap file...[note to self, may need winXP script to set up files in NT systems. As long as the file size is exactly the same Knoppix doesn't have a problem] Now adding an SDK for compatibility....Let's see both Morphix and Knoppix now support the idea of modules...precompiled & zipped up add-ons keyed to working with the disc. These would be useful for the SDK, and for the games. Again, they could sit on ANY file system. You could download new SDK modules to your HDD when you get new hardware! Knoppix is based on Debian which has execllent forward & backward compatiblity built in!! Knoppix suports External everything out of the box, USB keys, memory cards, external drives...storage of game saves is a moot point.
WE have forward and backward compatiblity, removable storage, extensability of the game & OS. The only things missing are a few key bits of software. One would need to establish a very strict API [SDL perhaps] and carefully guide it for this purpose. There would need to be work done on the game end to optimize for varied requirememts/ best play.
Overall, it's doable RIGHT NOW! So stop bitchin' about it! Try offering some constructive soulutions instead!!
He's complaining it didn't save stuff right away to his hard drive. I was explaining that there is a very good reason Knoppix doesn't "automatically" do anything with your HDD!
That right there is the biggest difference. Most "Writers" are writing for the pleasure of writing. The fact that you're rushing to put the words on paper is what they are trying to avoid. If it's worth saying, you should be able to remember it long enough to write it down!
Also, computers get in the way for lots of people. I'm still old enough that pen and paper is much easier for important drafts than sitting at a computer [cursing Bill G] for hours. I'm still a wacko that likes to write code out before ever wasting time at the PC typing it in. Computers are too busy [and I'm a sysadmin]---when most people want quiet to think clearly.
It's the difference between craft and production. Why restore an old car by hand when you can get a new one factory-fresh for cheaper? Because the act of writing is the art, not the presentation..someone else will make those choices anyway..Why waste time and fustration on them before creating the actual work.
I don't believe that Knoppix Xine has any "cracks" on it. As far as I know it's just vanilla...And that's the point. Klaus is only 1 person. He doesn't have the time to fight over trivial issues and kill his whole project! He's doing it for FUN not to make any kind of "point".
I happen to know for fact that Knoppix [3.2] works with the 3Com USB/ethernet networking dongle! That is an absolute lifesaver when you have PCs with no/broken nics. The ability to at least capture work from a borked HDD is worth it's weight in gold [ok it's a CD..that's not very much]
Most PCs that can boot from a CDROM should be able to run knoppix. The only way you'll know for sure is to try it out [no harm in trying!] or to read up on specifics on the forum if there's a particular piece of hardware you know you need to support.
Please, try it...You can't really HURT any PCs with it so it's always worth a try!
Frankly, you didnt' give this nearly a fair trial. I read other posts, and you didn't take the time to even learn what Knoppix was, or how to work it before you trusted you life's work to it. Had you read up a little before jumping in, you would have learned how to do everything you wanted in about an hour. Been running from start to configured in 10 minutes, and not lost a thing! Even been able to save that file so you could open it in windows!!! Knoppix is meant to "Do no harm!' that means it doesn't write to ANYTHING without you giving it express permission...on NT boxes writing to a drive is lethal--It couldn't assume that you wanted anything saved.
Read up at Knoppix.net! Check out the FAQs, and browse the forums for an evening before trying it out again. You might find that you'll like it!
If you don't like that try one of about a dozen other "forks" of Knoppix: ClusterKnoppix, Morphix, Knoppix-STD, etc. There are lots of other people basing work off from Knoppix...You could even make one yourself! That's the beauty of it!
It's great to show Bosses, because you don't have to wreck a computer to use it! But an AOL style mass mailing would be a really, really bad idea. It still requires somebody to SHOW how to use it, otherwise people will hate it rather than like it!
Mostly, it's to hard for the One Guy [Klaus Knopper] and a couple friends to keep up more than 1 offical version. So for quality-sake, they don't do that, and try to keep one version they can test throughly and do a really GREAT JOB on! It's better that way.
Not really, The VIA edens fill an important niche in computing...they run with low enough power and x86 compatible to use regular off-the-shelf auto/boat/hobbie batteries as power supplies for a USEABLE amount of time. P4s are nice, but 100W power usage will suck any batteries dry in minutes..not very useable. Also, the size lets you put a PC anywhere you want. Add linux to the mix and you can get a tiny, purpose-built "black Box" for cheap!
Hey SlashLords! I humblely request We need a "-2 GrammerNazi" to get rid of these!
Only problem is that it doesn't import any metadata. hyperlinks, bookmarks, etc...It's just a cold rip of the pages. That limits it's usefullness because you can't do anything with the resultant PDF [i.e. HR manual, reports, manuals] just look at it. That's severly limiting for corperate use.
OOPS! China has decided to use all that cheap labor the American compainies set up to build their OWN tech sector and the Americans are crying foul...But hey, our stuff all says "Made in China" on it anyway...How are we to tell the difference...and why should we?
China, along with southeast asia and perhaps India too is more like 1/3-1/2 the population [and future poplulation]! They can pretty much do what they want. As far as competing, don't they MAKE all our stuff over there? I don't see them having any future compatibality problems with US...maybe we will have problems with them [them as the majority]
That said, there was a EPIA prototype over on mini-itx.com after the last show that was an Envy on a itx board! very cool!
Cool class presentation! They even mentioned Knoppix! Very cool!
But look at visual basic. For every highpaid project that uses VB [may not include whole salary here] there's 10 students/hobbiests making screensaver for free/shareware. The average visual basic is probably not much more than what PHP is.
Remember PHP [and web development in general] is still mostly a hobbie market. Most websites are created by someone who "knows a guy" etc. I could split $6k/ month as a side job and be quite happy with the extra cash. [75k is more twice what I make right now at my day job!] Pros are going to be doing more like 2-3 web sites [concurrently] in 30 days and of course charging a bit more for that service.
First, this isn't nearly the same S3 that made anything you likely have. While they got back their engineers from after the crash and sale to VIA, this is VIAs ballgame now. That said, you probably didn't hear from S3 because at the time you were writing them they most likely didn't exist except on paper! VIA has been embedding the S3 cores on their northbridges for a while now...they do OK but won't win any awards.
Via makes: C3 cpu [a joke, but still a cpu], northbridge, southbridge, S3 embeded video on chipsets + discret parts, Firewire phy layer, USB 2.0, and Envy sound chips. Enter the EPIA that everyone is so fond of [hey! it's cute] Via makes the whole thing in house! It may be low end, and cheap, but they make the whole thing so they get every red cent they can squeeze out of it! Oh they also make many other "driver" chips for CD ROMS, and other devices. They probably make just as many, if not more, parts as intel in-house. They're a sleeping giant waiting for an opportunity...like the EPIA boards!
Electric motors have considerably lower rotational inertia..just motor, gearbox, wheel no crankcase, flywheels, transmision, or axles. Electric motors also have most of their torque at stall speed which ramps up to full at about half the rated amps. In reality, there wouldn't be any doubt about electrics at all if you could just get a decent battery. After all, carrying aroung 500-1200 LBS of extra batteries has pretty much shot electric cars in the foot as far as performance!
But read what's not being said by the 3d chipmakers. They seem to be afraid of MS retaliation if they get too involved with linux or Mac 3d gaming. Look what happened with Nvidia. Between the lines it looks like MS derailed Nvidia for jacking with the Xbox part contract....nothing offical, but you gotta wonder. MS still seems to be very much in the playing favorites game...more so if they think they can go back to having "competition" with Linux, they may feel the need to "sacrifice" someone as an example.
Remember that DirectX was supposed to turn Windows machines into consoles...for the most part it did...but MS split the market to make a quick buck. Only after Linux has started making in-roads are the showing a "recommitment" to DirectX to prevent a mass exodus. That and buying up PC 3D patents so nobody else CAN compete if they decide to grab for it all!
Yes, it's a step backward into the world of dos gamming...but if MS was to sabotage windows [highly possible] then a live CD video game system would be a great alternative. After all, everyone spends all sorts of time tweaking out a system. Why not let the game have the whole thing to itself. I'm sure there could be a way to not reboot between games [virtual machines, etc], or use the game from a desktop. There are too many different Linux "desktops" out there to effectively deal with without simply dictating like this anyway! But, the point is for the game to take care of itself "just like a console" This way a game disc could be written to run on any x86 PC without worrying about Windows or Linux...
As soon as you get rid of dealing with other software on a computer, getting games working becomes many times easier..well worth the trouble. You'd also have some HDD access for swap, saves, and drivers. Like I said above, the API would have to be extremely well controlled so that drivers and such would work for years on old and new mixes of machines. It'd just require out-engineering MS.. which OSS brags about regularly anyway! This is the "outside-the-box" solution!