Why? I mean, I actually get quite surprised whenever I see someone on slashdot spell 'lose' correctly, and that's from english-as-first-language ppl.
This is f***ing arrogant./. isn't reserved for native English speakers; though your 'whenever I see someone' implies everyone was just that.
You're right, and at times I wonder if the non-english-as-first-language ppl were not better in grammar than the natives ?
With the help of the Kiwis, the latter will become a reality for future generations.
When in school, less than two generations ago, UK was a great example for civil liberty with unarmed Bobbies, Speakers Corner, no need to carry an(y) IC with you. Habeas Corpus almost 1000 years in place; and so forth. What a sad day !
As an aside, I personally don't mind the public CCTV cameras. If in doubt, I think these actually serve as deterrent against crime respectively help solving crime. If someone *actually* and *really* needs to know where I go when taking a walk, could in any case follow me. But health records, keystroke loggers, RFIDs everywhere and so forth have not much to do with crime. These are blatent undertakings by the government, employers, industries, to capture behaviour for any other reason than crime prevention. Meaning, that crime prevention and 'terrorism' are only used as pretext to allow our privacy to be scaled down for the satisfaction of government and business.
Oh man, that sounds finger-licking good ! diffs are obvious, though, and 7-zip would be great.
But most of all - and since you seem to be an insider: - December ?? Still hoping for an Etchy New Year !
Huh, with all these troubles of FF and Ubuntu (and whatnot), I'm really curious how my anticipated apt-get upgrade of Sarge will do (in December, so I hope !) ? Please, Debian-guys, don't leave me standing in a similar cold then !
One goodie, though: It seems we on the *nix side of the world will be done by end of this year (yes, OpenBSD 4.0 will be out in 3 days), and I'll hopefully have an updated Festive Season and a clean New Year - while our friends on W32 will probably have to enjoy a disruptive 2007... . My suggestion to these guys and girls: switch-Switch-SWITCH-SWITCH !! No matter if OSX, Linux, BSD; but SWITCH ! - And enjoy a quiet 2007 !
For those of you with a short memory only: (attention, incomplete !)
MSDOS 3.0 - nonfunctional MSDOS 3.3 - okay MSDOS 4.x - nonfunctional MSDOS 5.0 - okay MSDOS 6.0 - nonfunctional MSDOS 6.22 - okay Windows 1.0 - nonfunctional Windows 2.0 - nonfunctional Windows 3.0 - just working Windows 3.1 - okay Windows 95 - barely functional Windows 97 - okay (never released as such; but replaced Windows 95 from 1996 onwards) Windows 98 - just working Windows 98 SE - okay Windows ME - just working Windows 2K - okay Windows XP - okay Windows Vista - ??????
Not even in the old system. There is an International Class for Patents on Perpetuum Mobile. Which surely would have never worked in front of the officer... .
The whole patent system has gone down the drain. Worldwide and not only the USPTO. WIPO is a bunch of industrial puppets these days, and the - then - great EPO has become a patent printing mill as well.
And, yes, I have spent more than 6 years of my life as patent examiner, in case you thought I was just a troll.
Oh you're so damn right. Still, you underestimate the goofyness of the children out there. The easily distractable dimwits with attention spans of seconds and a complete trust into the 'tests' published by their favourite magazines. And the group pressure at their workplaces when they need to confess to their colleagues on a Monday morning that they still have to install Vista. And then the minimising windows dance, roll and crumble; a folder you open shows you the first pages of the documents; and I don't know what else. Helpful to get work done all this is not.
Secondly: FOSS coders could have written all that eye candy just as well (or better), had they only wanted. But then, nobody would want to spend money for large upgrades of hardware. It says a lot about the maturity of our societies, when a critical (pun) mass is needed to get the man on the street moving. It doesn't exactly prove maturity, but rather a brave new world of compliance to the whims of the majority.
Thirdly: I bet the hardware vendors (reluctantly ?) sing to the same tune. The second dot-com bubble is in danger of bursting when one - as I did today - can source a mainboard with CPU and RAM for normal desktop users at a price of around US$ 100. Including NIC, VGA, sound. More than enough for wordprocessing, mail, web, IM, you name what an office worker needs. Without a Vista-hype we won't see the numbers required to keep the hardware vendors afloat. No, the gamers aren't enough. There are simply too few of these to keep the machinery running.
That's the problem of discussions like this one on/.: We mainly think and talk technology. The average user is guided by other factors, can't evaluate technology on his / her own, and therefore is prone to succomb to majority, peer pressure, fun-stuff, cheap effects, trusting authorities (Microsoft, magazines).
No need to become arrogant though. I probably behave likewise in topics of non-technical nature. Which is exactly why (near) monopolies are bad: there is (seemingly) no useful alternative. So, let's change this !
Why so AC ? I'm no troll and I'd be too pleased with a desktop better than the competition. WTF is a 'Gnomie' ? I don't know what the GTK open dialog looks like.
I only know that over the years I receive the same answers: 1. You can change it 2. Have a look at the upcoming version
And my answer is consistent: 1. The default should be convincing 2. The alternative settings don't do much different 3. The current one should be convincing
You might think you need to defend your preferred one. I don't. I want FOSS to succeed. If it needs a jab of useability research and some grown-up artistry, give it some ! Over.
Seconded. Have been pointing out for years that I'd prefer KDE despite of the klutter on the menu. But I can't stand the strain-inducing childish colours and ugly icons. Is there no arts akademia in Germany to provide non-Kindergarten icons ?
Technically KDE pleases me. But 'usability' seems to b a word missing in the German language.
Lots of folks have their own small server running at home 24x7 already any way
I do. What is 'small' ? To me, it is P75 / P300 and 128 MB of RAM. Your turn to run a VM on it and said pfSense. Have you read http://wiki.pfsense.com/wikka.php?wakka=ReleaseCav eats ?
I am running a P233 with 64 MB RAM and get around 40 Mbits. Not as VM, of course, but plain OpenBSD.
On my Soekris 4801 I get a good 24 Mbits with http://www.zelow.no/floppyfw/ inclusive TC; from a floppy (if I so wanted).
And when I start looking at my production stuff, I don't want GUI; I don't want Live-CD and I don't want USB. And - of course - I don't want any off-the-shelf PC. And production seems what these guys are going for. Call me a wet blanket, but I seriously don't see what this whole thing is supposed to deliver. Seriously.
I opened the links, since I was keen on finding out (even using) the thingy.
But, no. The minimal ("Do not even attempt to use it on anything less !") hardware is beyond my means (and beyond my expectation, even for traffic shaping and stuff):
All platforms:
128 megabytes of ram
Embedded:
128 megabyte compact flash card
Full installation:
2gb hard drive or larger
LiveCD:
USB Keychain for configuration storage
That's simply a tiny little bit too much.
I surely get the similar setting with OpenBSD on boxes with lower specs.
Okay, let's get it going. I love compact flash. Alas: "Larger flash sizes can be used but pfSense will not use the space over the 128 MB limit".
"The Snort package requires a LOT of memory, only install this when the sytem has 1 GB ram or over."
Any need to go further ? To me, at least, not. I rather move on....
Though, the author must be a programmer and the reader must count opening and closing quotation. > 80% of the comment is quotation, right, and in the end the author of parent says Even if he is convicted that doesn't mean he is guilty.
That makes my comment bad, but not the mod. It makes the comment redundant for copy & paste of another post to finally say "I don't agree with this".
I will, as soon as I can practically do so, upgrade my OS and its file system to something, ext4 or otherwise, that is not associated with a suspected murderer.
As much as I agree with you questioning the many 'funny' ACs, I can't support this statement. One day you, yes, you, might also become a suspect. And then, suddenly, you would see the world with different eyes. Especially, when you're found innocent and you also find that your friends have deleted all memories of you since they don't want to be associated with you; as suspect.
I am sure many of us would feel similar once the investigation is over and Hans eventually found guilty. But as civilised people, we better wait. How old are you ? Have you never ever been suspected of something ?
Read almost all posts; Windows and Linux oriented; as far as I could see.
Here is another perspective: I have almost forgotten when I received my Solaris 8 discs. I think June 2000 ? And there are still patches for the recent vulnerabilities. That's 6+ years.
Hmm. Insightful. From the outer perspective, maybe.
Actually, the Grandparent was better. Code doesn't deliver much; sorry to say and sorry to disappoint. If you don't know what is going on in the black box, some magic numbers combined with structures don't really help. It might work, but it might as well break one day or another.
Plus, you need to make a distinction between interface documentation (that would become the driver), which OpenBSD has been asking continuously for; and the firmware, that - for cost reason - is loaded instead of burnt into the black box on some type of PROM. The latter is vastly uninteresting and mainly to make the black box work.
What Theo wants, is the binary firmware as redistributable (would make everyone's life much easier); plus the specs of the hardware interface for writing a proper driver. Most of the vendor-supplied drivers are plain crap.
That firmware isn't much of a 'blob', since it has nothing to do with the OS. Imagine, if it was burnt into the box on a PROM, you wouldn't consider it as blob, neither, would you. It is just the piece of code that makes the dead hardware do what the meaning of the box is supposed to be.
If you need to keep IP closed source (for example some
whiz-bang algorithm), document the hardware
sufficiently that the community can provide their own.
James Ketrenos, Intel Open Source Technology Center
Agreed, I wouldn't call him a big fat liar as long as I haven't given him the chance to respond and do something about the situation.
I hope and guess this was done. James ?
After some 500 comments forth and back; it is obvious that Debian is the peanut counter, but Mozilla has the lever to defuse the whole lot. Why don't we all write to Mozilla, requesting them to give the limited right to Debian to use the Firefox code base with a logo of their, Debian's, liking, under the name of firefox ? and the whole matter would be closed immediately and easily. As it moves about now, it does a lot of damage in reputation to the perception of the general public on FOSS. That is the part making me sad. Yes, Mozilla is to be blamed for the latter aspect, since they do more damage than they achieve by sticking to their right of linking the code base with the icon base and the name. I can't perceive Mozilla's great losses if they grant Debian the right to using the brand name 'Firefox' and the code base of 'Firefox' and instead plug a different icon.
Whenever Mozilla will come up next, I'll start to avoid them.
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Wouldn't you have better left out that first sentence of yours ?
Wrong ! it is B4 instead of B3f0r3.
The Emporor's new clothes: The king is dead - Long live the king ! leet sp33k will |-|4v3 gr4m4
I 4 1 wlcm our new overlords: The leet sp33k Grammar Nazis
This is f***ing arrogant. /. isn't reserved for native English speakers; though your 'whenever I see someone' implies everyone was just that.
You're right, and at times I wonder if the non-english-as-first-language ppl were not better in grammar than the natives ?
With the help of the Kiwis, the latter will become a reality for future generations.
Mod this up; gave me a good grin.
....)
How does a f****** billboard look like, btw. ? (I know about dogs and stuff
Serious: Your are aware that the shades will not be visible (should I add: 'with the naked eye' ?)
When in school, less than two generations ago, UK was a great example for civil liberty with unarmed Bobbies, Speakers Corner, no need to carry an(y) IC with you. Habeas Corpus almost 1000 years in place; and so forth.
What a sad day !
As an aside, I personally don't mind the public CCTV cameras. If in doubt, I think these actually serve as deterrent against crime respectively help solving crime. If someone *actually* and *really* needs to know where I go when taking a walk, could in any case follow me.
But health records, keystroke loggers, RFIDs everywhere and so forth have not much to do with crime. These are blatent undertakings by the government, employers, industries, to capture behaviour for any other reason than crime prevention. Meaning, that crime prevention and 'terrorism' are only used as pretext to allow our privacy to be scaled down for the satisfaction of government and business.
Try Soekris (http://www.soekris.com/); for example.0 /floppyfw-3.0.0/
Get the Soekris version from
http://www.zelow.no/floppyfw/download/floppyfw-3.
No moving parts, no noise, less than 10 W.
Recommended.
Oh man, that sounds finger-licking good ! diffs are obvious, though, and 7-zip would be great. But most of all - and since you seem to be an insider: - December ?? Still hoping for an Etchy New Year !
Huh, with all these troubles of FF and Ubuntu (and whatnot), I'm really curious how my anticipated apt-get upgrade of Sarge will do (in December, so I hope !) ?
... .
Please, Debian-guys, don't leave me standing in a similar cold then !
One goodie, though: It seems we on the *nix side of the world will be done by end of this year (yes, OpenBSD 4.0 will be out in 3 days), and I'll hopefully have an updated Festive Season and a clean New Year - while our friends on W32 will probably have to enjoy a disruptive 2007
My suggestion to these guys and girls: switch-Switch-SWITCH-SWITCH !! No matter if OSX, Linux, BSD; but SWITCH ! - And enjoy a quiet 2007 !
For those of you with a short memory only: (attention, incomplete !)
MSDOS 3.0 - nonfunctional
MSDOS 3.3 - okay
MSDOS 4.x - nonfunctional
MSDOS 5.0 - okay
MSDOS 6.0 - nonfunctional
MSDOS 6.22 - okay
Windows 1.0 - nonfunctional
Windows 2.0 - nonfunctional
Windows 3.0 - just working
Windows 3.1 - okay
Windows 95 - barely functional
Windows 97 - okay (never released as such; but replaced Windows 95 from 1996 onwards)
Windows 98 - just working
Windows 98 SE - okay
Windows ME - just working
Windows 2K - okay
Windows XP - okay
Windows Vista - ??????
I know what to expect !
This saved my day ! Thanks !
Not even in the old system. There is an International Class for Patents on Perpetuum Mobile. ... .
Which surely would have never worked in front of the officer
The whole patent system has gone down the drain. Worldwide and not only the USPTO. WIPO is a bunch of industrial puppets these days, and the - then - great EPO has become a patent printing mill as well.
And, yes, I have spent more than 6 years of my life as patent examiner, in case you thought I was just a troll.
Oh you're so damn right.
/.: We mainly think and talk technology. The average user is guided by other factors, can't evaluate technology on his / her own, and therefore is prone to succomb to majority, peer pressure, fun-stuff, cheap effects, trusting authorities (Microsoft, magazines).
Still, you underestimate the goofyness of the children out there. The easily distractable dimwits with attention spans of seconds and a complete trust into the 'tests' published by their favourite magazines.
And the group pressure at their workplaces when they need to confess to their colleagues on a Monday morning that they still have to install Vista. And then the minimising windows dance, roll and crumble; a folder you open shows you the first pages of the documents; and I don't know what else. Helpful to get work done all this is not.
Secondly: FOSS coders could have written all that eye candy just as well (or better), had they only wanted. But then, nobody would want to spend money for large upgrades of hardware. It says a lot about the maturity of our societies, when a critical (pun) mass is needed to get the man on the street moving. It doesn't exactly prove maturity, but rather a brave new world of compliance to the whims of the majority.
Thirdly: I bet the hardware vendors (reluctantly ?) sing to the same tune. The second dot-com bubble is in danger of bursting when one - as I did today - can source a mainboard with CPU and RAM for normal desktop users at a price of around US$ 100. Including NIC, VGA, sound. More than enough for wordprocessing, mail, web, IM, you name what an office worker needs.
Without a Vista-hype we won't see the numbers required to keep the hardware vendors afloat. No, the gamers aren't enough. There are simply too few of these to keep the machinery running.
That's the problem of discussions like this one on
No need to become arrogant though. I probably behave likewise in topics of non-technical nature. Which is exactly why (near) monopolies are bad: there is (seemingly) no useful alternative.
So, let's change this !
I love you all and I hate all blobs.
I use one blob and I hate it: nvidia.
But there is no TV-out with nv.
That *is* a problem. I agree with RMS and TdR.
And still, I want to watch movies on the tube. So how ?
Why so AC ?
I'm no troll and I'd be too pleased with a desktop better than the competition.
WTF is a 'Gnomie' ? I don't know what the GTK open dialog looks like.
I only know that over the years I receive the same answers:
1. You can change it
2. Have a look at the upcoming version
And my answer is consistent:
1. The default should be convincing
2. The alternative settings don't do much different
3. The current one should be convincing
You might think you need to defend your preferred one. I don't. I want FOSS to succeed. If it needs a jab of useability research and some grown-up artistry, give it some ! Over.
Seconded.
... )
Have been pointing out for years that I'd prefer KDE despite of the klutter on the menu.
But I can't stand the strain-inducing childish colours and ugly icons. Is there no arts akademia in Germany to provide non-Kindergarten icons ?
Technically KDE pleases me. But 'usability' seems to b a word missing in the German language.
(... and there goes the karma
Where do you buy your smoke-stuff ?
There is nothing like a secure OS. FYI.
Dreaming, are you !
There is nothing like a secure OS. FYI.
I do. What is 'small' ? To me, it is P75 / P300 and 128 MB of RAM. Your turn to run a VM on it and said pfSense.v eats ?
I am running a P233 with 64 MB RAM and get around 40 Mbits. Not as VM, of course, but plain OpenBSD.
Have you read http://wiki.pfsense.com/wikka.php?wakka=ReleaseCa
On my Soekris 4801 I get a good 24 Mbits with http://www.zelow.no/floppyfw/ inclusive TC; from a floppy (if I so wanted).
And when I start looking at my production stuff, I don't want GUI; I don't want Live-CD and I don't want USB. And - of course - I don't want any off-the-shelf PC. And production seems what these guys are going for. Call me a wet blanket, but I seriously don't see what this whole thing is supposed to deliver. Seriously.
But, no. The minimal ("Do not even attempt to use it on anything less !") hardware is beyond my means (and beyond my expectation, even for traffic shaping and stuff):
All platforms: 128 megabytes of ram
Embedded: 128 megabyte compact flash card
Full installation: 2gb hard drive or larger
LiveCD: USB Keychain for configuration storage
That's simply a tiny little bit too much. I surely get the similar setting with OpenBSD on boxes with lower specs.
Okay, let's get it going. I love compact flash. Alas: "Larger flash sizes can be used but pfSense will not use the space over the 128 MB limit".
... .
"The Snort package requires a LOT of memory, only install this when the sytem has 1 GB ram or over."
Any need to go further ? To me, at least, not. I rather move on
Though, the author must be a programmer and the reader must count opening and closing quotation. > 80% of the comment is quotation, right, and in the end the author of parent says Even if he is convicted that doesn't mean he is guilty.
That makes my comment bad, but not the mod. It makes the comment redundant for copy & paste of another post to finally say "I don't agree with this".
As much as I agree with you questioning the many 'funny' ACs, I can't support this statement. One day you, yes, you, might also become a suspect. And then, suddenly, you would see the world with different eyes. Especially, when you're found innocent and you also find that your friends have deleted all memories of you since they don't want to be associated with you; as suspect.
I am sure many of us would feel similar once the investigation is over and Hans eventually found guilty. But as civilised people, we better wait. How old are you ? Have you never ever been suspected of something ?
Read almost all posts; Windows and Linux oriented; as far as I could see.
Here is another perspective: I have almost forgotten when I received my Solaris 8 discs. I think June 2000 ? And there are still patches for the recent vulnerabilities.
That's 6+ years.
Hmm. Insightful. From the outer perspective, maybe.
Actually, the Grandparent was better. Code doesn't deliver much; sorry to say and sorry to disappoint.
If you don't know what is going on in the black box, some magic numbers combined with structures don't really help. It might work, but it might as well break one day or another.
Plus, you need to make a distinction between interface documentation (that would become the driver), which OpenBSD has been asking continuously for; and the firmware, that - for cost reason - is loaded instead of burnt into the black box on some type of PROM. The latter is vastly uninteresting and mainly to make the black box work.
What Theo wants, is the binary firmware as redistributable (would make everyone's life much easier); plus the specs of the hardware interface for writing a proper driver. Most of the vendor-supplied drivers are plain crap.
That firmware isn't much of a 'blob', since it has nothing to do with the OS.
Imagine, if it was burnt into the box on a PROM, you wouldn't consider it as blob, neither, would you. It is just the piece of code that makes the dead hardware do what the meaning of the box is supposed to be.
James Ketrenos, Intel Open Source Technology Center
Agreed, I wouldn't call him a big fat liar as long as I haven't given him the chance to respond and do something about the situation.
I hope and guess this was done.
James ?
After some 500 comments forth and back; it is obvious that Debian is the peanut counter, but Mozilla has the lever to defuse the whole lot.
Why don't we all write to Mozilla, requesting them to give the limited right to Debian to use the Firefox code base with a logo of their, Debian's, liking, under the name of firefox ? and the whole matter would be closed immediately and easily.
As it moves about now, it does a lot of damage in reputation to the perception of the general public on FOSS. That is the part making me sad. Yes, Mozilla is to be blamed for the latter aspect, since they do more damage than they achieve by sticking to their right of linking the code base with the icon base and the name.
I can't perceive Mozilla's great losses if they grant Debian the right to using the brand name 'Firefox' and the code base of 'Firefox' and instead plug a different icon.
Whenever Mozilla will come up next, I'll start to avoid them.