How many schoolchildren's desks are going to stop a bullet? And when it's trivial for the shooter to go around the cover and hit anyone who makes for the single exit out of the classroom, how do you think that's going to play out?
And.. to everyone comparing the lethality of knives to guns, you sound pretty stupid when the context is six year olds in a classroom. Just saying.
I think we've already established that knives are less lethal, given the numbers.
It also involved months of planning. If you want to kill a bunch of people in a school today, all you have to do is head to a gun show and pick up an AR-15.
The other "pro" is that mass-produced consoles, unlike mass-produced PCs, come in cases designed to sit next to a TV monitor.
These days, consoles are mass-produced PCs that come in cases designed to sit next to a TV monitor. The XBox 360, if I recall correctly, ran a console-specific version of Windows 7. Before Sony doubled down on evil, PS3s could run Linux.
Would it run with sound on the operating system that shipped with Pentium III PCs (Windows 2000 or Windows Me) and Pentium 4 PCs (Windows XP)?
Yes, with help from a little application called DosBox.
And in 2010, another man attacked schoolchildren with a knife, and killed 7.
Feel free to check my math, but seven is a lot lower than 28 (Sandy Hill). Or 13 (Columbine). Or 32 (Virginia Tech).
Moreover, it's actually possible to defend oneself against a knife, whereas you can really only defend yourself from a gun if you're already in close quarters. So don't scoff at the idea of fighting off attackers with brooms -- after all, this is coming from the country that invented kung fu.
Great. True. Cars aren't designed to kill people. But they're *still* involved in more deaths than guns are.
Good point. And yes, cars aren't designed to kill people. Conversely, I don't ride a gun to work.:)
I think a fairer comparison would be to compare the number of murders or suicides by gun to the number of murders or suicides by car, in which case the numbers are decidedly smaller for cars than for guns... because, as you pointed out, cars aren't designed to kill, whereas that's the sole purpose of a firearm.
Do you have any idea how easy it is to assemble a pipe bomb from ingredients you can get at the Home Depot? Any nutcase can look up instructions on the internet in 5 minutes.
And then go through the process of actually building the weapon. And in the meantime, that combination of purchases as Home Depot has possibly tipped off the FBI that you're planning to kill people with a bomb.
A gun requires far less effort and can conceivably kill far more people.
Because it is impossible to do it with knives or more likely gas bombs or half a dozen other things any of us could easily think of?
In China a week or two ago, a man attacked schoolchildren with a knife. He injured about 20 or so. No one died.
In the last 20 years, 13 people have died from gas bombs. Five people died from biological attacks in that same amount of time. Care to guess how many people have been killed by guns?
So thanks for making my point. It's not impossible to kill someone with other tools, but it's nowhere near as convenient.
Right, blaming a physical object for a _mental_ problem is the "problem".
Yes, yes, guns don't kill people; repeated-to-death NRA talking points, blah, blah, blah. You call me an idiot, yet you can't be bothered to think for yourself.
Killing someone with a semiautomatic gun, whether it's a rifle or pistol, is ridiculously easy. You aim, then you pull the trigger until they're dead. You don't have to reload and reacquire your target.
Killing someone with any other ranged weapon, or any close-combat weapon, at least takes effort.
They can "hang out with one another" at home, you know. Or at the movies. Or at a restaurant. Or at the local mall. But nooo, they choose a local bar, filled with a disproportionate concentration of horny guys.
You're implying that women don't have a right to enjoy themselves in a bar without being harassed. Do you live in a cave in Afghanistan or something?
Being horny doesn't give a man an excuse to harass a woman. EVER.
Don't pretend like it isn't sexual.
If it's sexual, it's because you and meatheads like you make it that way. Not every girl who goes onto the dance floor wants your smelly junk rubbing up against her without her permission.
Walking penises like you and misexistentialist are why we end up with situations like Steubenville, where guys think it's OK to fuck an unconscious 16-year-old girl. Why don't you go stick your dick (if you can find it) in a fire ant mound, too.
The only "fun" they're going to have is by dangling sex in front of the males, therefore they are in fact going out to get laid.
Women do not exist to satisfy your sexual desires. They can (and many do) enjoy a girls' night out, and they have the right to do so without assbags like you calling it "dangling sex in front of the males."
So kindly go fuck a fire ant nest while the rest of us men get on with the business of being more than walking penises.
Or is it just because its RFID wristband that everyone here is having an issue with?
That's probably part of it, along with the worry that the information on the RFID chip would be unencrypted, such that anyone with a reader could spend a day at the park and walk away with much more than $100 worth of people's identities.
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Yeah.. aiming and trigger pulling take no skill. Which is why everybody in the military makes expert rating!
Actually, I did make expert with the M-9. On several occasions. Thanks for playing, though.
It's called "cover" ... wow.
How many schoolchildren's desks are going to stop a bullet? And when it's trivial for the shooter to go around the cover and hit anyone who makes for the single exit out of the classroom, how do you think that's going to play out?
And.. to everyone comparing the lethality of knives to guns, you sound pretty stupid when the context is six year olds in a classroom. Just saying.
I think we've already established that knives are less lethal, given the numbers.
If you're not elderly, it's not worth the cost of the vaccine.
I got my shot through the VA back in September for free, so for me at least, it was worth the cost. :)
In most civilized countries, I imagine you don't have to pay for the flu shot. Free health care and all that.
It also involved months of planning. If you want to kill a bunch of people in a school today, all you have to do is head to a gun show and pick up an AR-15.
Yes, let's compare the United States to a third-world country, because that's where we want to be in 20 years ...
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5) Piracy rates on Computers are much higher, discouraging game development.
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The other "pro" is that mass-produced consoles, unlike mass-produced PCs, come in cases designed to sit next to a TV monitor.
These days, consoles are mass-produced PCs that come in cases designed to sit next to a TV monitor. The XBox 360, if I recall correctly, ran a console-specific version of Windows 7. Before Sony doubled down on evil, PS3s could run Linux.
Would it run with sound on the operating system that shipped with Pentium III PCs (Windows 2000 or Windows Me) and Pentium 4 PCs (Windows XP)?
Yes, with help from a little application called DosBox.
And in 2010, another man attacked schoolchildren with a knife, and killed 7.
Feel free to check my math, but seven is a lot lower than 28 (Sandy Hill). Or 13 (Columbine). Or 32 (Virginia Tech).
Moreover, it's actually possible to defend oneself against a knife, whereas you can really only defend yourself from a gun if you're already in close quarters. So don't scoff at the idea of fighting off attackers with brooms -- after all, this is coming from the country that invented kung fu.
Great. True. Cars aren't designed to kill people. But they're *still* involved in more deaths than guns are.
Good point. And yes, cars aren't designed to kill people. Conversely, I don't ride a gun to work. :)
I think a fairer comparison would be to compare the number of murders or suicides by gun to the number of murders or suicides by car, in which case the numbers are decidedly smaller for cars than for guns ... because, as you pointed out, cars aren't designed to kill, whereas that's the sole purpose of a firearm.
Do you have any idea how easy it is to assemble a pipe bomb from ingredients you can get at the Home Depot? Any nutcase can look up instructions on the internet in 5 minutes.
And then go through the process of actually building the weapon. And in the meantime, that combination of purchases as Home Depot has possibly tipped off the FBI that you're planning to kill people with a bomb.
A gun requires far less effort and can conceivably kill far more people.
Because it is impossible to do it with knives or more likely gas bombs or half a dozen other things any of us could easily think of?
In China a week or two ago, a man attacked schoolchildren with a knife. He injured about 20 or so. No one died.
In the last 20 years, 13 people have died from gas bombs. Five people died from biological attacks in that same amount of time. Care to guess how many people have been killed by guns?
So thanks for making my point. It's not impossible to kill someone with other tools, but it's nowhere near as convenient.
Right, blaming a physical object for a _mental_ problem is the "problem".
Yes, yes, guns don't kill people; repeated-to-death NRA talking points, blah, blah, blah. You call me an idiot, yet you can't be bothered to think for yourself.
Killing someone with a semiautomatic gun, whether it's a rifle or pistol, is ridiculously easy. You aim, then you pull the trigger until they're dead. You don't have to reload and reacquire your target.
Killing someone with any other ranged weapon, or any close-combat weapon, at least takes effort.
Actually, the problem is the guns. Or, rather, it's that guns are so widespread and easy to obtain that any nutcase can get one.
They can "hang out with one another" at home, you know. Or at the movies. Or at a restaurant. Or at the local mall. But nooo, they choose a local bar, filled with a disproportionate concentration of horny guys.
You're implying that women don't have a right to enjoy themselves in a bar without being harassed. Do you live in a cave in Afghanistan or something?
Being horny doesn't give a man an excuse to harass a woman. EVER.
Don't pretend like it isn't sexual.
If it's sexual, it's because you and meatheads like you make it that way. Not every girl who goes onto the dance floor wants your smelly junk rubbing up against her without her permission.
Walking penises like you and misexistentialist are why we end up with situations like Steubenville, where guys think it's OK to fuck an unconscious 16-year-old girl. Why don't you go stick your dick (if you can find it) in a fire ant mound, too.
They do it to hang out with one another, moron.
Thanks for the info. In that case, I guess it's mostly knee-jerk "privacy!" reactions?
I would honestly rather not pay to keep these scumbags alive.
You'd pay a lot more to have the government try to kill them.
Taking money FROM me to do things I would not choose to do is a punishment.
Wrong. It is part of your responsibility as a citizen of the United States.
The only "fun" they're going to have is by dangling sex in front of the males, therefore they are in fact going out to get laid.
Women do not exist to satisfy your sexual desires. They can (and many do) enjoy a girls' night out, and they have the right to do so without assbags like you calling it "dangling sex in front of the males."
So kindly go fuck a fire ant nest while the rest of us men get on with the business of being more than walking penises.
Or is it just because its RFID wristband that everyone here is having an issue with?
That's probably part of it, along with the worry that the information on the RFID chip would be unencrypted, such that anyone with a reader could spend a day at the park and walk away with much more than $100 worth of people's identities.
Right guys, that's the reason they started seeking out and saving this rape video... yep... 'justice'... no other motive at all.
Scoff if you want, but there're a lot of "white knight" anons out there, and a lot of people who are in it to see justice done.
In the process, Anonymous successfully managed to get the accused released by tainting the evidence. Congratulations, assholes.
Yes, because police and prosecutors have never relied on anonymous tips to generate leads in cases before.
A billion dollars is a rounding error when it comes to the DoD budget, which for 2012 was $707.5 billion.
Based on your usage of significant digits, I'd say $100 million is a rounding error. :)
A reduction in military spending would have to be commensurate with an equal or larger increase in civilian contracts ...
Investing that money in the space industry would pay for itself. Better yet, both Boeing and Lockheed are already in the space business.
I bet you think the paper used to make $20 is worth $20, too.