Damn. Please ignore what went trough of my comment, and imagine it would have looked like this:
You mean unlike the dark matter/energy theory, that was created, because the data did not fit the hypothesis, but the hypothesis must!!!1!1one be true?
Thank you for your cooperation. And have a nice day.;)
Reminds me of the best way to die, ever: Take a parachute drop, but without the parachute. Instead put a large thorn/needle/picket on your head. Then land exactly on your favorite bad guy.
When I'm old and gray, this is what I am going to do. If it were today, I'd take the boss of Monsanto or some Rothschild boss with me.
Second place: Point-and-click electronic-device-plus-finger-paradigm user-interfaces. It's pretty hard to create something more inefficient... (as an UI. Even the command shell is faster.)
Just one question: How exactly did you get to having one petaflop of spare CPU power? Are you working at Google? I meant you don't exactly put some computers together in your basement, to get to that power.
Oh, and did you already play trough Crysis Warhead on Vista, with a ray-tracing mod, running in a virtual machine implemented as an Emacs script, running on another JavaScript based VM in the browser... or are you still planning to do it?
Sounds to me like the "no bugs have popped up yet, so there are no bugs in the program" logic fallacy.
If one company of all has proven to follow the rule, that if they have some strange clause in the contract, and on asking about it, they say that it's just for safety and will never be used in reality, they intend to use it as early and as often as possible, then it's with no doubt Microsoft. (Health insurance companies would come to mind too.)
I think, given the happenings of the past, it is far more likely, that as soon as Mono became an essential part of Gnome, so that to remove it, you would have to kill Gnome entierly, Microsoft will load its weapons.;)
Which means that soon, the argument of both troll teams (the pro-mono and the contra-mono side act very trollish, I must say), will be settley, and we can go back to VI vs Emacs.;)
On another note: What's the point of Gnome again, now that Qt/KDE is open sourced? (Remember how Gnome started because it was not.);) Oh well, I am always for more freedom (and more choice, if it helps freedom), so why not?:)
How exactly is this article trollish? To me, this whole discussion sounds like the "monkey see, monkey do" problem. Most people do not even know why they think that the other side trolls.
I mean, it sounds like a good point and an even likely thing, that Microsoft is going to sue and try to forbid Gnome, because they in fact have patents on.NET. We remember how SCO happened, and the general EEE policy that killed or nearly killed Sun, Netscape, Borland etc. We also remember that all of them had some kind of contract, controlling what is ok, and what is not ok. and Microsoft perfectly worked their way around it.
I also find is most funny, that the whole point that started Gnome, was that KDE was not entirely free, and Trolltech could sue. ^^ (Which now seems fixed, by the way.)
I am not taking any sides here. I am just using basic logic, and likeliness calculated from my experience. Please enlighten me. But first think about the why, and stay with the facts (past and present), instead of being part of a lynch mob.
(Luckily, I use KDE, because it actually leaves the freedom of choice to the user. So I'm out anyway.)
Reminds me of an answer to an HL2 developer / PR guy. Back then, he meant that Far Cry looks like plastic. There also was a stupid looking photo of himself in the article. To which a guy in the comments answered "Half-Life developer looks like plastic!";) (He meant, that all those PR guys look groomed and clean like a inhuman puppet, with a stupid PR smile.)
Does anyone know if the parents are working in PR too? ^^
And because on a C64, you do not expect all the little features, grapics, etc. Like a spell checker, an animated mouse cursor semi-transparent high-color smooth-moving windows. many of them. An MP3 stream playing it he background, with an OSD poppig up. An instant messenger for 5 different networks running in the background. Sub-pixel-anti-aliased beautiful vector fonts, with different styles, intelligent breaking on the field end, full HTML+CSS+JavaScript+DOM+flash rendering/interpreting, automatic error checks for wrong data in I/O, a firewall and other tools protecting us, etc. And the convenience of a high-level language.
That stuff adds up.
Sure, I would love to see us all programming and even scripting in Haskell, with some extensions, and a compiler producing smaller files. And efficient use of data (like not using an array of 64-bit fields for single bit variables. [flag-fields where are you?]).
Why do they have to be for something? Evolution does not forbid random things, that are neither bad nor good for something.
Sometimes, humans try too much, to fit things into the artificial set of meta-rules that they did create, to describe the complex results of more basic and emergent rules. But those meta-rules have their own artifacts, that are not present in the basic rules and therefore are not present in the world. Like there having to be a "reason" for everything. A human concept that should describe causality, but adds something more to it, which does not exist in reality.
Other than that, it is obvious, that they enhance the grip, even in situations with liquids.
Nope. It's not. Hacking still means tinkering. It's just that today, the media uninformed shit-storm even reached the dirty bottom of all Slashdot users.
Here, where we know what we are talking about. We call unauthorized access "cracking" (like you crack a safe).
Telindus, which is a large Luxemburgish computer shop, sells computer systems to roughly half the banks in Luxemburg (the land of the banks). Well. One employee told me, that they put the password "telindus" or "password" on them, and then add a big sticker, saying that the new maintainers absolutely must change that password when Telindus is done and gone. But when they come back, one year later, for some contract-required maintenance/updates, half of those still have that initial password in them. And they are banks. With hundreds to thousands of computers. (Yes, Telindus also sets up the main servers.)
So if you ever get to a login of a bank in Luxemburg, there is about a one in four chance, that you crack the absolute jackpot. I recommend keeping a stealthy rootkit ready. ^^
Well, I know that I know Einstein's theories very well when I was 11. I was kind of learning-addicted. We had a VCR without a manual (My dad threw it away right after he bought it), and I found all the functions in it. Including some undocumented ones. I know, because later, I found that the manual was still in our attic. I also already liked programming Pascal (Turbo Pascal to be exact), and some Basic. (Which I had to learn from the reference manual only.)
I guess part of it, was that my mom always just assumed I would be a little genius, that I tried to reach that level. But I am far from a genius. I would even call some parts of my psyche underdeveloped. My dad was the dumbest person I have ever met. Seriously. An example: He did once take something he thought would be "Sungold California Plums" (metal can with a violet lid) from the shelf, went to the checkout, payed it, put it in a bag, went home, and put it on our eating table, before he (trough us telling him) noticed, that he bought baby wet wipes (plastic can with a violet top). (!!) And my mom was so intelligent, that she was not able to live normally, and went a bit crazy, making her somehow pretty unsuccessful too. Go figure...;)
But I learned one thing, and if I remember this correctly, some scientists confirmed it: There is no such thing as "talent". The trick is, to self-motivate yourself as strongly as possible. Which as not some stupid thing, like saying that you can do it. It is this: Do the hardest thing / take the biggest step, that you just manage to do successfully and without failing. The closer you are to that ideal balance between to hard and too easy, the more will you accelerate. What we call "talent", are some early circumstances, that got you going on this self-motivating road. Like supporting parents, having luck to get just the right experiences of success, and then keeping them. So there is no reason your child could not become a "genius". Or that you can motivate yourself that way nowadays. Just remember that the key point is the *fun* from the *motivation*. Pressure and stress are the most wrong things you can do. If your child *wants* to do it, then you are doing a good job.
The other key thing, that all "geniuses" have in common, is to structure your thoughts/knowledge. You can only hold so many things in your brain at the same time. So tie them together with their commonalities, and group them, so that they fit in one single memory slot. This (in a simplified view) usually results in some hierarchical system. Or a graph (in the mathematical sense) to be exact. With many dimensions of overlapping/commonalities. One example would be chess. A beginner tries to remember the position of every single figure. An amateur might thing that this is the $famousChessTourament tactic. And a professional can just say "this is the $famousChessPlayer setup from $year, with the $famousChessTourament tactic at the left flank, and this pawn in one field closer to the enemy". Three memory slots. For the whole field. Interestingly, even sports "geniuses" do some variant of this.
It's this mindset of "Europe" *having* to become a country!!!!11!1!one, that is spread by politicians, without there being a point to it, other than total centralized power and control from one fake-democracy government (yeah, like the USA), that disturbs us. Especially since it grows in the minds of the uninformed, until nobody looks strange at you anymore, when you mention it. (A bit like a virus of "getting used to it".)
Wait until politicians and big company spokespersons start calling us "humans" or "earthlings", and you know you are fucked, and have no way out of their now global control.
You have met the wrong People. I lived in Cologne (Germany), Luxemburg, Spain, and came around much. And I know for sure, that not a single person i ever met would call himself an "European", when asked for his country.
Maybe someone thought: "Oh, an US-American. From the funny TV-Spots know that they can't tell Iraq from their own country on a map. So I say 'Europe', and maybe get a chance at him knowing it" Sure, this is just as insulting and filled with prejudice. But, here too, as everywhere, not all people are great. ^^
Think of it like this: Where will you go, when your government, continuing on its current course, will be an oppressive totalitarian one, forcing everyone to walk in lock-step? The next country? Well, that would then be either Russia, an Arabic country, or going overseas to Africa or America. At least until they are "united" too.
And you're the expert, right? I bet you call yourself an "American", completely ignoring that you are one of 35 countries.
The *only* ones talking about "Europeans", are uneducated US-Americans (not all), and politicians trying to force this "union" down our throat at all cost. Come here, go around and ask people what country they are from. You will be old and gray, before finding some confused soul naming not his own country. ^^
No it's not. And frankly, if will only over my cold dead body. If it has to come to war against an illegal and illegitimate EU government, I am prepared. Yes, that's how important this is to us. I look over your statement, because you did not know this. But I recommend being sensitive. Or we might call US-Americans Mexocanadians. ^^ *cocks gun^W^Wadds "Mexocanadian" to his dictionary*
By the way, many uninformed people see Europe as a country to some extent. This insults not only a lot of Europeans, it also include a lot of people outside of Europe.
There. Fixed that for ya.
The big problem is, that this "union" is force-fed to us Europeans, without there being a point to it. That is the real thing here: There is a global "urge" to union us all, under one government. Thereby removing all abilities to go somewhere else, if you don't like it there. Which unfortunately be, what many people want to do, with the current totalitarian oppression regimes rising.
And if you argue that you could make a new party. Then look at how well that works out for the current marionette governments of the USA, and pretty much every European (or even global) government.
What do you think is next? The north-American union is already in the making. Then comes the union of north-America and the EU. And then? I am already on the brink of going to an island and founding my own country. But how am I going to protect it? Against a global union? Good joke.
Don't understand me wrong. I like people all over the world cooperating. But in a free way. That is what the Internet is for. And, correct me if I'm wrong, but it works stunningly well. On the other hand, organizational globalization without a real point, is the removal of freedom, for control. Pure an simple.
P.S.: Wait for the governments starting to argue, that we must do it because of the economical crisis. Something deliberately created by those that now buy everyone else and invest in gold, to be the only ones surviving this "crisis" of a credit-based currency, that is scientifically proven to crash from time to time.
What's with that retarded "million million million. because you can't possibly comprehend what a sextillion is" attitude? And besides: When you got the chance to use the best prefix ever, you blow it like this??
If you wanted something we all here can relate to, you could have at least said that there are 70 zettastars. Which is coming right after exastars, which is coming after petastars. Everyone knows how to relate to that. And in some years, we will all have at least one byte per star in the known universe on our hard disks.;)
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Damn. Please ignore what went trough of my comment, and imagine it would have looked like this:
You mean unlike the dark matter/energy theory, that was created, because the data did not fit the hypothesis, but the hypothesis must!!!1!1one be true?
Thank you for your cooperation. And have a nice day. ;)
You mean unlike the dark matter/energy theory, that was created, because the data did not form the hypothesis, but the hypothesis must!!!1!1one(
Hope this helps for the next time you write a summary.
You must be new here...
Reminds me of the best way to die, ever: Take a parachute drop, but without the parachute. Instead put a large thorn/needle/picket on your head. Then land exactly on your favorite bad guy.
When I'm old and gray, this is what I am going to do. If it were today, I'd take the boss of Monsanto or some Rothschild boss with me.
Talk about an open door with just a screen door left between you and 500 feet or polar ice water.
A hammer. Bah. Crybaby. ;)
The standard non-ergonomic keyboard.
You call that a keyboard? THIS is a keyboard!
Second place: Point-and-click electronic-device-plus-finger-paradigm user-interfaces.
It's pretty hard to create something more inefficient... (as an UI. Even the command shell is faster.)
Just one question: How exactly did you get to having one petaflop of spare CPU power? Are you working at Google?
I meant you don't exactly put some computers together in your basement, to get to that power.
Oh, and did you already play trough Crysis Warhead on Vista, with a ray-tracing mod, running in a virtual machine implemented as an Emacs script, running on another JavaScript based VM in the browser... or are you still planning to do it?
Sounds to me like the "no bugs have popped up yet, so there are no bugs in the program" logic fallacy.
If one company of all has proven to follow the rule, that if they have some strange clause in the contract, and on asking about it, they say that it's just for safety and will never be used in reality, they intend to use it as early and as often as possible, then it's with no doubt Microsoft. (Health insurance companies would come to mind too.)
I think, given the happenings of the past, it is far more likely, that as soon as Mono became an essential part of Gnome, so that to remove it, you would have to kill Gnome entierly, Microsoft will load its weapons. ;)
Which means that soon, the argument of both troll teams (the pro-mono and the contra-mono side act very trollish, I must say), will be settley, and we can go back to VI vs Emacs. ;)
On another note: What's the point of Gnome again, now that Qt/KDE is open sourced? (Remember how Gnome started because it was not.) ;) :)
Oh well, I am always for more freedom (and more choice, if it helps freedom), so why not?
How exactly is this article trollish?
To me, this whole discussion sounds like the "monkey see, monkey do" problem. Most people do not even know why they think that the other side trolls.
I mean, it sounds like a good point and an even likely thing, that Microsoft is going to sue and try to forbid Gnome, because they in fact have patents on .NET.
We remember how SCO happened, and the general EEE policy that killed or nearly killed Sun, Netscape, Borland etc.
We also remember that all of them had some kind of contract, controlling what is ok, and what is not ok. and Microsoft perfectly worked their way around it.
I also find is most funny, that the whole point that started Gnome, was that KDE was not entirely free, and Trolltech could sue. ^^ (Which now seems fixed, by the way.)
I am not taking any sides here. I am just using basic logic, and likeliness calculated from my experience.
Please enlighten me. But first think about the why, and stay with the facts (past and present), instead of being part of a lynch mob.
(Luckily, I use KDE, because it actually leaves the freedom of choice to the user. So I'm out anyway.)
Reminds me of an answer to an HL2 developer / PR guy. ;)
Back then, he meant that Far Cry looks like plastic. There also was a stupid looking photo of himself in the article.
To which a guy in the comments answered "Half-Life developer looks like plastic!"
(He meant, that all those PR guys look groomed and clean like a inhuman puppet, with a stupid PR smile.)
Does anyone know if the parents are working in PR too? ^^
That's ok. We don't need that hack anymore. This little social engineering of an article worked perfectly.
Prepare for the party-van to arrive.
And because on a C64, you do not expect all the little features, grapics, etc. Like a spell checker, an animated mouse cursor semi-transparent high-color smooth-moving windows. many of them. An MP3 stream playing it he background, with an OSD poppig up. An instant messenger for 5 different networks running in the background. Sub-pixel-anti-aliased beautiful vector fonts, with different styles, intelligent breaking on the field end, full HTML+CSS+JavaScript+DOM+flash rendering/interpreting, automatic error checks for wrong data in I/O, a firewall and other tools protecting us, etc. And the convenience of a high-level language.
That stuff adds up.
Sure, I would love to see us all programming and even scripting in Haskell, with some extensions, and a compiler producing smaller files. And efficient use of data (like not using an array of 64-bit fields for single bit variables. [flag-fields where are you?]).
But, well...
Why do they have to be for something?
Evolution does not forbid random things, that are neither bad nor good for something.
Sometimes, humans try too much, to fit things into the artificial set of meta-rules that they did create, to describe the complex results of more basic and emergent rules. But those meta-rules have their own artifacts, that are not present in the basic rules and therefore are not present in the world. Like there having to be a "reason" for everything. A human concept that should describe causality, but adds something more to it, which does not exist in reality.
Other than that, it is obvious, that they enhance the grip, even in situations with liquids.
Nope. It's not. Hacking still means tinkering. It's just that today, the media uninformed shit-storm even reached the dirty bottom of all Slashdot users.
Here, where we know what we are talking about. We call unauthorized access "cracking" (like you crack a safe).
This is the reference, as long as we still live: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/H/hacker.html ^^
But I bet you don't even know the jargon file.
Hey, nice! Say, what's the company called again?
I have something way better for you:
Telindus, which is a large Luxemburgish computer shop, sells computer systems to roughly half the banks in Luxemburg (the land of the banks). Well. One employee told me, that they put the password "telindus" or "password" on them, and then add a big sticker, saying that the new maintainers absolutely must change that password when Telindus is done and gone.
But when they come back, one year later, for some contract-required maintenance/updates, half of those still have that initial password in them. And they are banks. With hundreds to thousands of computers. (Yes, Telindus also sets up the main servers.)
So if you ever get to a login of a bank in Luxemburg, there is about a one in four chance, that you crack the absolute jackpot. I recommend keeping a stealthy rootkit ready. ^^
Well, I know that I know Einstein's theories very well when I was 11. I was kind of learning-addicted. We had a VCR without a manual (My dad threw it away right after he bought it), and I found all the functions in it. Including some undocumented ones. I know, because later, I found that the manual was still in our attic.
I also already liked programming Pascal (Turbo Pascal to be exact), and some Basic. (Which I had to learn from the reference manual only.)
I guess part of it, was that my mom always just assumed I would be a little genius, that I tried to reach that level. ;)
But I am far from a genius. I would even call some parts of my psyche underdeveloped.
My dad was the dumbest person I have ever met. Seriously. An example: He did once take something he thought would be "Sungold California Plums" (metal can with a violet lid) from the shelf, went to the checkout, payed it, put it in a bag, went home, and put it on our eating table, before he (trough us telling him) noticed, that he bought baby wet wipes (plastic can with a violet top). (!!)
And my mom was so intelligent, that she was not able to live normally, and went a bit crazy, making her somehow pretty unsuccessful too.
Go figure...
But I learned one thing, and if I remember this correctly, some scientists confirmed it:
There is no such thing as "talent". The trick is, to self-motivate yourself as strongly as possible.
Which as not some stupid thing, like saying that you can do it. It is this:
Do the hardest thing / take the biggest step, that you just manage to do successfully and without failing. The closer you are to that ideal balance between to hard and too easy, the more will you accelerate.
What we call "talent", are some early circumstances, that got you going on this self-motivating road. Like supporting parents, having luck to get just the right experiences of success, and then keeping them. So there is no reason your child could not become a "genius". Or that you can motivate yourself that way nowadays.
Just remember that the key point is the *fun* from the *motivation*. Pressure and stress are the most wrong things you can do. If your child *wants* to do it, then you are doing a good job.
The other key thing, that all "geniuses" have in common, is to structure your thoughts/knowledge. You can only hold so many things in your brain at the same time. So tie them together with their commonalities, and group them, so that they fit in one single memory slot.
This (in a simplified view) usually results in some hierarchical system. Or a graph (in the mathematical sense) to be exact. With many dimensions of overlapping/commonalities.
One example would be chess. A beginner tries to remember the position of every single figure. An amateur might thing that this is the $famousChessTourament tactic. And a professional can just say "this is the $famousChessPlayer setup from $year, with the $famousChessTourament tactic at the left flank, and this pawn in one field closer to the enemy". Three memory slots. For the whole field.
Interestingly, even sports "geniuses" do some variant of this.
That's pretty much all there is to it. :)
Oops. I apologize for the typos around "funny TV spots I know". I saw a funny TV spot at that moment, and forgot to fix it. ;)
Nobody did. :)
It's this mindset of "Europe" *having* to become a country!!!!11!1!one, that is spread by politicians, without there being a point to it, other than total centralized power and control from one fake-democracy government (yeah, like the USA), that disturbs us. Especially since it grows in the minds of the uninformed, until nobody looks strange at you anymore, when you mention it. (A bit like a virus of "getting used to it".)
Wait until politicians and big company spokespersons start calling us "humans" or "earthlings", and you know you are fucked, and have no way out of their now global control.
You have met the wrong People. I lived in Cologne (Germany), Luxemburg, Spain, and came around much. And I know for sure, that not a single person i ever met would call himself an "European", when asked for his country.
Maybe someone thought: "Oh, an US-American. From the funny TV-Spots know that they can't tell Iraq from their own country on a map. So I say 'Europe', and maybe get a chance at him knowing it"
Sure, this is just as insulting and filled with prejudice. But, here too, as everywhere, not all people are great. ^^
Think of it like this: Where will you go, when your government, continuing on its current course, will be an oppressive totalitarian one, forcing everyone to walk in lock-step?
The next country? Well, that would then be either Russia, an Arabic country, or going overseas to Africa or America. At least until they are "united" too.
Yay. :/
And you're the expert, right? I bet you call yourself an "American", completely ignoring that you are one of 35 countries.
The *only* ones talking about "Europeans", are uneducated US-Americans (not all), and politicians trying to force this "union" down our throat at all cost.
Come here, go around and ask people what country they are from. You will be old and gray, before finding some confused soul naming not his own country. ^^
No it's not. And frankly, if will only over my cold dead body. If it has to come to war against an illegal and illegitimate EU government, I am prepared.
Yes, that's how important this is to us.
I look over your statement, because you did not know this. But I recommend being sensitive.
Or we might call US-Americans Mexocanadians. ^^
*cocks gun^W^Wadds "Mexocanadian" to his dictionary*
By the way, many uninformed people see Europe as a country to some extent. This insults not only a lot of Europeans, it also include a lot of people outside of Europe.
There. Fixed that for ya.
The big problem is, that this "union" is force-fed to us Europeans, without there being a point to it.
That is the real thing here: There is a global "urge" to union us all, under one government. Thereby removing all abilities to go somewhere else, if you don't like it there.
Which unfortunately be, what many people want to do, with the current totalitarian oppression regimes rising.
And if you argue that you could make a new party. Then look at how well that works out for the current marionette governments of the USA, and pretty much every European (or even global) government.
What do you think is next? The north-American union is already in the making. Then comes the union of north-America and the EU. And then?
I am already on the brink of going to an island and founding my own country. But how am I going to protect it? Against a global union? Good joke.
Don't understand me wrong. I like people all over the world cooperating. But in a free way. That is what the Internet is for. And, correct me if I'm wrong, but it works stunningly well.
On the other hand, organizational globalization without a real point, is the removal of freedom, for control. Pure an simple.
P.S.: Wait for the governments starting to argue, that we must do it because of the economical crisis. Something deliberately created by those that now buy everyone else and invest in gold, to be the only ones surviving this "crisis" of a credit-based currency, that is scientifically proven to crash from time to time.
What's with that retarded "million million million. because you can't possibly comprehend what a sextillion is" attitude? And besides: When you got the chance to use the best prefix ever, you blow it like this??
If you wanted something we all here can relate to, you could have at least said that there are 70 zettastars. Which is coming right after exastars, which is coming after petastars. Everyone knows how to relate to that. And in some years, we will all have at least one byte per star in the known universe on our hard disks. ;)
You mean like Counterstrike?