It's not the $ signs. I mean, after all, that is the reason why they do it. It's about thinking in the long term, and thinking further than around the next logical corner.
They want the quick money, and ignore that it hurts them more in the long run, to do it that way.
And another problem is, that to plan for the far future, you have to have pretty good predictions.
Well, you can easily solve this, if you allow some more strong MIP mapping technologies for everything, including the transferred packets, models, etc.
For example you could just transmit the data of the most relevant people and objects, until the pipe is X percent full, then use some "group" model, with only simple coordinates and very simple models etc for every player outside of that relevance radius. And so on... in a curve that is somewhat between quadratic and cubic (depending on the dimensions of your relevance space). Do not forget to include the main viewing targets of your player into the calculation, so they can still target something far away, and see it in a good quality. You could even make it work like interleaved JPEGs, where you only load the roughest details at first, and then become more and more detailed, the more you want to view it (=the more you wait).
I think people would prefer that to having every single object that is visible at all to be transferred and rendered in some kind. Nobody cares about the quality of stuff he does not care about. ^^
They estimate, from the hip, that the cost to develop the technology required to support a massive amount of players (i.e. far more than EVE Online) on a single server to be roughly $100 million.
Wow. So no matter what even the rough amount of players is, it always going to cost $100 million? Let's see. With EvE Online's record of 53,850 concurrent players in the same realm, the number of active Internet users (1.23 million), and the amount of humans on the planet (6708 million), this would give a price range between ~$1857 to ~$0,0813 and ~$0.0149 per person. Veeery useful.:P
Protip: If your business model includes words like "massive" and "far", instead of actual numbers (even with a standard deviation), then failure is pretty much guaranteed.
Because not everybody has an SD card reader. And I do not want one too. The good thing with USB flash drives is, that you can stick them to any computer you can find. And even many printers, scanners, and even very cheap car sound systems support them.
Well, as far as I know, you already pay on your HDDs, optical drives, printers and scanners. And therefore it is legal anyway. At least here in Germany. But they also sue anyway. Those bastards.
You know that it does not work that way, do you? I hope... or else I really do not know what you are? Because everybody knows that there are no girls on the net. And well, if you were a guy... Have you changed your underpants recently (last two decades)? ^^
Because even if Microsoft keeps the market share, they have to do it trough innovation. Well, if they really can make a browser that is so great, that can win back users from Firefox, then I applaud them.
I just don't think it will happen. ^^ One can only dream.:)
Well, they should get a free training day as a digestion tower diver from their boss.
If I were their boss, I'd totally do it.:D
And: Yes, that is an actual job! You wear scuba gear, and jump into a 40C hot pool of shit, pee, an other "enzymes" and stuff. I think you have to have a dead nose and no wife to do that job. ^^
I can't help but think the big difference between artificial life and our consciousness is the ability to feel.
You talk much about the ability to "feel". Well: Define it!
No offense, but I bet you are totally unable to do so. And so are most people.
Because it's a concept like the "soul". Something that does not exist in reality, but is just a name for something that we do not understand.
I think, our brain is just the neurons, sending electrical signals (fast uni/multicasting). And a second chemical system (slow broadcasting). Both modify the neurons in their reaction to signals. That's all. There is no higher "thing". There is no need for one.
The ability to "feel", emotions, and the whole stuff, comes from the effects of that system. If you can simulate a system of the same size in any way, it will have that ability too. (But it will not necessarily come to the same conclusions as you are, because it is not you, and it is not human. It had no mother. It has no body to caress. It has no basic motivation, except if you manually add them.)
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...the artificial ethics that we humans apply to ourselves, because we got told that this and that would be right and wrong, but where nobody checks if they actually make any sense. ^^
Oh, and hypocrisy is a whole subsection of that problem. But who am I telling that, right? ^^
It's funny, how much stuff dissolves into nothing, when we apply one single rule: Everything is allowed, as long as it does not hurt anybody.
Now everyone sees differently, what hurts whom. And I think this is the original point of the judicial system (which itself only makes sense in groups).
But for me, this was an eye-opener.
One glaring example: Say we are 50 people. We go to an island where we disturb nobody. And each of us agrees that he accepts to be raped and killed by anyone in that group, as long as he can to the same to anybody else. Everything else stays the same as at home. Suddenly the rules of what is ethic have changed drastically, and it would not be ethical in that group, to suddenly say that this was not the deal.
Of course, in reality, this pretty much never happens. But you get my point.
It's funny how much is just false ethics, transported trough the generations by "monkey see, monkey do".
1. One thing is, how men usually think that it would not be ok to steal the attention of a girl from some other random guy who is hitting on her. (But isn't there pretty much always someone on her?) 2. And that you should not speak loudly. (But speaking loud and confident (but not yelling) leaves a much better impression of your personality.) 3. What exactly is offensive about nudity? Why would it? Where is the point of being ashamed for it? Strangely, nobody can tell. I could go on, and on, and on.
One example that fits for me (But I may miss some information. And this may strongly offend you, if you choose to ignore hard reality here. In that case, please jump to the end. Thank you.): To hurt nobody, you usually treat everybody the same. But what if someone is disabled, and you build tons of extra things just for him. One could argue, that this gives him an unfair advantage. But we all would never see it that way. But why? Because if you treat everybody the same... something that should ultimately be the fairest way possible... he would have a disadvantage. This would not be you hurting him. It's just the way it is. Perhaps he's disabled because he had to run his bike though the serpentines at 200 mph when it rained. But perhaps he's a child and born that way. I just don't think it is ethically right, to give someone an unfair advantage. Just as it is wrong to give that person an unfair disadvantage.
To finally close the loop back to the topic: If not even our own ethics make sense, should we really be the ones who decide the ethics of a whole new lifeform?
Hmm... I wonder if there is a way to search for "unsafe" pictures only. Maybe some internal option or hack?
Please, please, please... if you're from Google: Add this option in a hidden way, and then "leak" the information to us. You can always just change the way it's used, and then apologize for that little bug. And then leak the new way too. So that we still have access. Whoops. ^^
Yeah. And use all your useful cookies too. Of dozens of forums (including Slashdot), and tons of other stuff. No thanks. If it were selective, then maybe. But this is just plain useless and stupid.
Well, it seems that if you are from Germany, you can configure and go to.com all you want, you will always get German search results preferred. Which is not what I want. Especially for forum searches on computer questions. The answers in those forums always seem to be extremely retarded. Then you go over to some international/english forum, and it's like a fresh breeze of reason. No offense... but that is my experience.
In German forums, people will lead you on a totally stupid wrong track, and then go back and forth for pages, generally ruling out the way to the solution, because of that previous assumption. I can't count the times I banged my head on the table because it was so obvious where they went wrong. Also don't try to correct them. They think they are right anyway, and so big experts, because they installed Suse all alone. Just go over to some international forum for some serious business, and see their track being ruled out in the second message of the thread.
In that aspect, it's much like comparing the quality of small local TV stations and newspapers to nationwide or international ones.
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It's not the $ signs. I mean, after all, that is the reason why they do it.
It's about thinking in the long term, and thinking further than around the next logical corner.
They want the quick money, and ignore that it hurts them more in the long run, to do it that way.
And another problem is, that to plan for the far future, you have to have pretty good predictions.
Well, you can easily solve this, if you allow some more strong MIP mapping technologies for everything, including the transferred packets, models, etc.
For example you could just transmit the data of the most relevant people and objects, until the pipe is X percent full, then use some "group" model, with only simple coordinates and very simple models etc for every player outside of that relevance radius. And so on... in a curve that is somewhat between quadratic and cubic (depending on the dimensions of your relevance space).
Do not forget to include the main viewing targets of your player into the calculation, so they can still target something far away, and see it in a good quality.
You could even make it work like interleaved JPEGs, where you only load the roughest details at first, and then become more and more detailed, the more you want to view it (=the more you wait).
I think people would prefer that to having every single object that is visible at all to be transferred and rendered in some kind. Nobody cares about the quality of stuff he does not care about. ^^
They estimate, from the hip, that the cost to develop the technology required to support a massive amount of players (i.e. far more than EVE Online) on a single server to be roughly $100 million.
Wow. So no matter what even the rough amount of players is, it always going to cost $100 million? :P
Let's see. With EvE Online's record of 53,850 concurrent players in the same realm, the number of active Internet users (1.23 million), and the amount of humans on the planet (6708 million), this would give a price range between ~$1857 to ~$0,0813 and ~$0.0149 per person. Veeery useful.
Protip: If your business model includes words like "massive" and "far", instead of actual numbers (even with a standard deviation), then failure is pretty much guaranteed.
Nah. There is a specialized job for those kind of divers. Because an average commercial diver will refuse to do such a (literal) shit job. ^^
Hey! I was serious!
I already did that. It did not help.
The ncr thing seems to help, though.
You're assuming manufacturers are going to produce a separate line of motherboards for home use and office use?
Nah. They only need to flash a different BIOS on them. Done in seconds. No problem.
That's simple: Block it with a firewall. I bet there is another way to disable it too.
Well, there are USB sticks, that have a slot for some flash cards. Which is pretty cool, but nearly nobody seems to care.
Because not everybody has an SD card reader. And I do not want one too.
The good thing with USB flash drives is, that you can stick them to any computer you can find. And even many printers, scanners, and even very cheap car sound systems support them.
Well, as far as I know, you already pay on your HDDs, optical drives, printers and scanners. And therefore it is legal anyway. At least here in Germany.
But they also sue anyway. Those bastards.
3.11 to be exact. And for Workgroups too.
You forgot, where the blow-up hole was, have you? ^^
You know that it does not work that way, do you? I hope... or else I really do not know what you are? Because everybody knows that there are no girls on the net. And well, if you were a guy... Have you changed your underpants recently (last two decades)? ^^
Theremin, of course. :P
He meant it the other way around.
Yeah. *OW*
As another ex-web-developer, I'd have to second that. :)
Because even if Microsoft keeps the market share, they have to do it trough innovation.
Well, if they really can make a browser that is so great, that can win back users from Firefox, then I applaud them.
I just don't think it will happen. ^^ :)
One can only dream.
Well, they should get a free training day as a digestion tower diver from their boss.
If I were their boss, I'd totally do it. :D
And: Yes, that is an actual job! You wear scuba gear, and jump into a 40C hot pool of shit, pee, an other "enzymes" and stuff. I think you have to have a dead nose and no wife to do that job. ^^
I can't help but think the big difference between artificial life and our consciousness is the ability to feel.
You talk much about the ability to "feel".
Well: Define it!
No offense, but I bet you are totally unable to do so.
And so are most people.
Because it's a concept like the "soul". Something that does not exist in reality, but is just a name for something that we do not understand.
I think, our brain is just the neurons, sending electrical signals (fast uni/multicasting). And a second chemical system (slow broadcasting). Both modify the neurons in their reaction to signals.
That's all. There is no higher "thing". There is no need for one.
The ability to "feel", emotions, and the whole stuff, comes from the effects of that system.
If you can simulate a system of the same size in any way, it will have that ability too.
(But it will not necessarily come to the same conclusions as you are, because it is not you, and it is not human. It had no mother. It has no body to caress. It has no basic motivation, except if you manually add them.)
...the artificial ethics that we humans apply to ourselves, because we got told that this and that would be right and wrong, but where nobody checks if they actually make any sense. ^^
Oh, and hypocrisy is a whole subsection of that problem. But who am I telling that, right? ^^
It's funny, how much stuff dissolves into nothing, when we apply one single rule: Everything is allowed, as long as it does not hurt anybody.
Now everyone sees differently, what hurts whom. And I think this is the original point of the judicial system (which itself only makes sense in groups).
But for me, this was an eye-opener.
One glaring example: Say we are 50 people. We go to an island where we disturb nobody. And each of us agrees that he accepts to be raped and killed by anyone in that group, as long as he can to the same to anybody else. Everything else stays the same as at home.
Suddenly the rules of what is ethic have changed drastically, and it would not be ethical in that group, to suddenly say that this was not the deal.
Of course, in reality, this pretty much never happens. But you get my point.
It's funny how much is just false ethics, transported trough the generations by "monkey see, monkey do".
1. One thing is, how men usually think that it would not be ok to steal the attention of a girl from some other random guy who is hitting on her. (But isn't there pretty much always someone on her?)
2. And that you should not speak loudly. (But speaking loud and confident (but not yelling) leaves a much better impression of your personality.)
3. What exactly is offensive about nudity? Why would it? Where is the point of being ashamed for it? Strangely, nobody can tell.
I could go on, and on, and on.
One example that fits for me (But I may miss some information. And this may strongly offend you, if you choose to ignore hard reality here. In that case, please jump to the end. Thank you.):
To hurt nobody, you usually treat everybody the same. But what if someone is disabled, and you build tons of extra things just for him. One could argue, that this gives him an unfair advantage. But we all would never see it that way. But why? Because if you treat everybody the same... something that should ultimately be the fairest way possible... he would have a disadvantage. This would not be you hurting him. It's just the way it is. Perhaps he's disabled because he had to run his bike though the serpentines at 200 mph when it rained. But perhaps he's a child and born that way.
I just don't think it is ethically right, to give someone an unfair advantage. Just as it is wrong to give that person an unfair disadvantage.
To finally close the loop back to the topic:
If not even our own ethics make sense, should we really be the ones who decide the ethics of a whole new lifeform?
Hmm... I wonder if there is a way to search for "unsafe" pictures only. Maybe some internal option or hack?
Please, please, please... if you're from Google: Add this option in a hidden way, and then "leak" the information to us. You can always just change the way it's used, and then apologize for that little bug. And then leak the new way too. So that we still have access. Whoops. ^^
Yeah. And use all your useful cookies too. Of dozens of forums (including Slashdot), and tons of other stuff. No thanks.
If it were selective, then maybe. But this is just plain useless and stupid.
Well, it seems that if you are from Germany, you can configure and go to .com all you want, you will always get German search results preferred. Which is not what I want. Especially for forum searches on computer questions. The answers in those forums always seem to be extremely retarded. Then you go over to some international/english forum, and it's like a fresh breeze of reason. No offense... but that is my experience.
In German forums, people will lead you on a totally stupid wrong track, and then go back and forth for pages, generally ruling out the way to the solution, because of that previous assumption. I can't count the times I banged my head on the table because it was so obvious where they went wrong.
Also don't try to correct them. They think they are right anyway, and so big experts, because they installed Suse all alone.
Just go over to some international forum for some serious business, and see their track being ruled out in the second message of the thread.
In that aspect, it's much like comparing the quality of small local TV stations and newspapers to nationwide or international ones.
...(perl-style) regular expressions? Or at least allowing to search for non-alphanumeric characters?
Their search interface is a huge step backward from what old engines like HotBot offered.