Normally, I would refrain from calling slashdotters idiots. We are well educated, we know more than the average Joe, we are proud of our intellect......yet we are just simple humans, who in bad times can not withstand the full consequences of how much this world beats us down, and survive. It is this psychological protection of the own reality, that we talked about some hours/days ago, right here on slashdot that protects us from breaking down. And it's a wise tactic, because we in fact survied. But deep down, we all know... strange lost votes in our proud 1st world countries, our own people captured and tortured for no reason, people of the highest ranks, lying to us, or suddenly forgetting everything, cameras watching every step, the whole population having one foot in the jail because of laws that nobody can know of follow anymore, companies selling hard drugs as calmatives to our childern, and that bribery suddenly is called "lobbying", and we even have to die in wars for interest that go against our own...
I know, I know... you are thinking "It's not *that* bad. You are overreacting. You are wrong! Troll! I can't see this shit!". And I agree. This is out protection system kicking in, right there. And you can let it go all the way. Accuse me of whatever insult you know. Because after all is said and done, and it's quiet inside, the feeling of what you really think and feel is going on, is strongest.
Give yourself the time. This is where your intelligence starts thinking up new ways to look away from what you just felt. Observe it as it happens. Knowing of your protection system, and not forgetting what you saw in that quiet moment.
Because then you gain the power to look around the protective layer, if you choose to, without it breaking down your world. And if protection kicks in again, just justify your reality by knowing that you will not ignore it, because you're way to intelligent and able, to let it slide and live like the cattle, like the average Joe.
I hope, then you - the (wise) people - will rule the country again.
Luckily they come up with their own solutions. Like sharing one mobile phone per town. It's very sad when you think, what potential is lost down there. Africa has many natural resources, which in itself should make it a pretty rich continent. But the Internet is a huge chance for them, because you can live in your hut in the middle of an oasis in the Sahara, and still make money as a service business. You only need a brain, an Internet connection, and enough food/water to survive, until you got enough information from the net, to be able to provide and sell those services. Don't think they're unable to quickly understand the Internet, just because it's completely new to them. If it's a child, it does not matter. Give it a year, or less, and it's up to our level.
Oh, I forgot the language barrier. So let's summarize:
Give a teen a laptop like the OLPC, with solar power, full Internet access and an included language course, and in a matter of five years, he's rocking the town. In 10 years he can support others in his town. In 20 years he can bring his town to wealth.
I always found sending food down to be close to murdering children, because in the end, it will not raise their natural resources avaliable to *them*, and there will just be more children to starve... or we would have to send even more food and make them even more dependent.... Two morally very questionable things to do...
Oh well... or we could stop the stranglehold of the WTO...
Unfortunately this all does not matter, as long as the world trade organization keeps them intentionally in a tight grip.:\ And: No. I do not care for conspiracy theories very much. As a matter of fact, ask the "Yes Men". They can tell you tales from the inside, and prove it without drifting off to loony space way.
Especially, since we all want the same, we can equalize the distance-related price-difference over all packets, and be good with it.
You just have to accept, that you pay for long-distance packets of others. But for the right to get financed by others in expensive times.
Oh boy, this sounds a bit like communism. But as I say: Nothing in bad (or good) in all aspects everywhere. And in this aspect it seems to have the good without the bad. As long as there is nobody who is more equal than the others. We'll see...:)
420 kg?? We aren't that fat, you insensitive clod!...yet.
And 1010 kg for 2010? I think there is a certain alarm bell going off in your brain, if you realize that you're weighing as much as your car... and still live enough to notice the alarm...
docsigma2000: jesus christ man docsigma2000: my son is sooooooo dead c8info: Why? docsigma2000: hes been looking at internet web sites in fucking EUROPE docsigma2000: HE IS SURFING LONG DISTANCE docsigma2000: our fucking phone bill is gonna be nuts c8info: Ooh, this is bad. Surfing long distance adds an extra $69.99 to your bill per hour. docsigma2000:...!!!!!! FUCK FUCK FUCK docsigma2000: is there some plan we can sign up for??? docsigma2000: cuz theres some cool stuff in europe, but i dun wanna pauy that much c8info: Sorry, no. There is no plan. you'll have to live with it. docsigma2000: o well, i ccan live without europe intenet sites. docsigma2000: but till i figure out how to block it hes sooooo dead c8info: By the way, I'm from Europe, your chatting long distance. ** docsigma2000 has quit (Connection reset by peer)
Well... the EU, Australia and Japan/Korea would shit in their pants (because they would become the non-believing axis or evil, and China and Cuba would come all over the place from having a new ally. Everyone else would not care and say "same old shit, different day".
On the other hand, as the EU imitates the US in every aspect they can, maybe they would simply become communist too, just in a more bureaucratic way... Hey, in EU's government, because of their bureaucracy, communism could actually work.;)
You talk, as if there were a difference between corporations and a government. Nowadays the government is just a club for the feudalistic corporations, to find compromises on their differences for nationwide issues. The rest is a facade.
Why else would bribing (aka. lobbying) not be a federal "go directly to the pound-me-in-the-ass-prison" crime?
Topdog? If you look at the speed: yes. If you look at the features: no.
MySQL got only barely usable trough what you call "bloat".
I, for one, love, that PostgreSQL is as fast as MySQL but feature-complete too.
I wonder how fast PostgreSQL would be, if you removed all the features that yesterday's MySQL. I bet it would crush it.;)
Hey, why not let the user configure a flag at compile time, that does this. Or modularize it (in code, not in the executable), so that you can toggle the features of your choice. That way, there would be no need for MySQL anymore.:)
Yes, I second that. I love PostgreSQL's documentation. I switched from MySQL to PostgreSQL, and I thing MySQL's documentation is just one step away from a joke. (I'm no fanboy. MySQL has its own advantages. Even if they are rather sparse.)
Parent is the most insightful comment in a long time.
That's *exactly* what happens now.
But never forget that psychology defines religion as a kind of (mild or bad) schizophrenia. And indeed, if you compare them both, it fits nicely. So the country needs a therapy. As a whole. Unfortunately psychological therapies are still not very effective.:\
But I learned, that a raise in intelligence often helps people to solve their problems themselves. So my money's on education. (And I'm not talking about the outdated way you know from school. I'm talking about modern methods and more social and emotional education in addition to logic an motor skills.)
Well, I do not take *anything* by the above groups, fanatic or extreme people seriously, and normally I do not even listen to it. And if they insist, I throw them trough some hard-core logic reasoning shit, where they usually lose pretty quickly.;)
Maybe they are like me, and can't stand the ambiguity of emotionless text.
I know that slashdot is dominated by logic-dominated humans. But there is much more out there, and many logic-dominated humans have a deficiency in emotional communication, which is rather sadm because they see it as something good. (We are no Vulcans, and pure logic is the opposite of ideal for humans.)
Hierarchies are useless to me. I think they are pretty unnatural and retarded. In real life, things are not hierarchical. They are a net of relations with variable strengths.
You can get most of that by allowing soft/hard links and tags in file systems. But ultimately, a semantic file system, like http://www.tagsistant.net/, is the only real solution. The trick is, to put it in a comfortable interface. Something still missing a bit, but I'm working on it. (I'm not related to tagsistant.)
But in truth I doubt that there's anyone who can tell you exactly how the brain works, and which pathway belongs to the consistency checking job. If we knew that, we'd already have a working AI.
I think I could. But it's no "pathway". That's not how a NN (neural network) works. In a NN, everything is stored in superimposed states of whole subnets of paths. I can't explain it without thinking more about it, but I think consistency is more a basic property of how a NN works. If you have two output lines... one for going trough door A and one for going trough door B, the signal for door A could be stronger, so that it wins. After that, you will do backwards rationalization (saying that you clearly decided to take that door in the first place), which is a feedback that suppresses the "in this situation I take door B" pathway/state in your brain. You have learned it.
Sometimes it's impressive how simple the basic mechanism is, and how complex the results are.
Hey, what happens, if I - knowing of the possibility of cognitive dissonance - deliberately choose not to choose one, but run with the more useful one, until the other becomes more useful? I will also deliberately tell myself that this is a great power, being able to juggle with alternate paths of reality to deal with missing information, while not splitting my personality.
Bonus question: Could this be perfected by using superimposed quantum states and/or the uncertainty principle?
Cars? Eeewww. Don't tell me you still live in the 20th century where you actually need cars. Pervert!
We ride on flying hot women with internet access and fuckstick-2.0-port. (I bet you're still on 1.0.) You can't even *imagine* the number of... ehrm... "buttons" they have. O:-)
Don't try to win against me in fantasizing. You don't stand a chance!:D
On a serious note: Included? PCs in a whole? I haven't seen someone buying a PC as a whole for a looong time. Especially not including a keyboard and a mouse. On the other hand... We have a very nice community of people here that actually know how to build a PC out of the devices and help others with it. They usually get something nice in return.:D
To me "PC" always was a word for a set of devices for generic computing use. The CPU is a device. The DVD drive is a device. But a PC - here - is not a device.
It's very impressive, how your leaders brainwashed you into confusing lazyness with the freedom of leisure instead of being a slave of a company, and seeing elitism (like in, being the best) as something bad.
Well... It's your life. If you want to be a Joe Slave, so be it. But as soon as those that take advantage of you in this way endanger us too, you're putting me in danger by supporting them. And that's where I have a problem with you. Luckily I see it as the best, to help you, instead of punishing you.
I have 7 buttons, a scroll ball and 2000 DPI at 1000 Hz on my mouse. And I actually know how to put it to use.
The Mighty Mouse might look good... like 80s white-plastic-sci-fi. But in every other aspect it is as bad of a joke as 6-bit-LCDs. Ergonomics, precision, functionality... you name it...
Apple is not selling a product. It's selling a dream. I'm sorry, but my fantasy exceeds that dream by far, and I'm not susceptible to professional lying like in religion, hypnosis, politics, marketing, etc. Luckily for Apple, I'm a rather rare kind of person on this planet.
Slashdot Mirror
I apologize for the typos. I have some post-submit errata:
"people captured and tortured"
="people being captured and tortured"
", and that bribery"
= ", that bribery"
"I can't see this shit!"
= "I can't look at this shit!"
"This is out protection system"
= "This is our protection system"
"will rule the country again."
="will rule your country again."
Finally: The whole text is meant to sound quiet and non-aggressive. I hope it's not misunderstood.
Yeah. Run right into it. :(
Normally, I would refrain from calling slashdotters idiots. We are well educated, we know more than the average Joe, we are proud of our intellect... ...yet we are just simple humans, who in bad times can not withstand the full consequences of how much this world beats us down, and survive.
It is this psychological protection of the own reality, that we talked about some hours/days ago, right here on slashdot that protects us from breaking down. And it's a wise tactic, because we in fact survied.
But deep down, we all know... strange lost votes in our proud 1st world countries, our own people captured and tortured for no reason, people of the highest ranks, lying to us, or suddenly forgetting everything, cameras watching every step, the whole population having one foot in the jail because of laws that nobody can know of follow anymore, companies selling hard drugs as calmatives to our childern, and that bribery suddenly is called "lobbying", and we even have to die in wars for interest that go against our own...
I know, I know... you are thinking "It's not *that* bad. You are overreacting. You are wrong! Troll! I can't see this shit!". And I agree.
This is out protection system kicking in, right there. And you can let it go all the way. Accuse me of whatever insult you know.
Because after all is said and done, and it's quiet inside, the feeling of what you really think and feel is going on, is strongest.
Give yourself the time. This is where your intelligence starts thinking up new ways to look away from what you just felt. Observe it as it happens. Knowing of your protection system, and not forgetting what you saw in that quiet moment.
Because then you gain the power to look around the protective layer, if you choose to, without it breaking down your world.
And if protection kicks in again, just justify your reality by knowing that you will not ignore it, because you're way to intelligent and able, to let it slide and live like the cattle, like the average Joe.
I hope, then you - the (wise) people - will rule the country again.
Luckily they come up with their own solutions. Like sharing one mobile phone per town.
It's very sad when you think, what potential is lost down there. Africa has many natural resources, which in itself should make it a pretty rich continent.
But the Internet is a huge chance for them, because you can live in your hut in the middle of an oasis in the Sahara, and still make money as a service business. You only need a brain, an Internet connection, and enough food/water to survive, until you got enough information from the net, to be able to provide and sell those services. Don't think they're unable to quickly understand the Internet, just because it's completely new to them. If it's a child, it does not matter. Give it a year, or less, and it's up to our level.
Oh, I forgot the language barrier. So let's summarize:
Give a teen a laptop like the OLPC, with solar power, full Internet access and an included language course, and in a matter of five years, he's rocking the town. In 10 years he can support others in his town. In 20 years he can bring his town to wealth.
I always found sending food down to be close to murdering children, because in the end, it will not raise their natural resources avaliable to *them*, and there will just be more children to starve... or we would have to send even more food and make them even more dependent.... Two morally very questionable things to do...
Oh well... or we could stop the stranglehold of the WTO...
Unfortunately this all does not matter, as long as the world trade organization keeps them intentionally in a tight grip. :\
And: No. I do not care for conspiracy theories very much. As a matter of fact, ask the "Yes Men". They can tell you tales from the inside, and prove it without drifting off to loony space way.
How is this on-topic? Or is that your style of showing your very own schizophrenia? (just jokin' ;)
Exactly!
Especially, since we all want the same, we can equalize the distance-related price-difference over all packets, and be good with it.
You just have to accept, that you pay for long-distance packets of others. But for the right to get financed by others in expensive times.
Oh boy, this sounds a bit like communism. But as I say: Nothing in bad (or good) in all aspects everywhere. And in this aspect it seems to have the good without the bad. As long as there is nobody who is more equal than the others. We'll see... :)
420 kg?? We aren't that fat, you insensitive clod! ...yet.
And 1010 kg for 2010? I think there is a certain alarm bell going off in your brain, if you realize that you're weighing as much as your car... and still live enough to notice the alarm...
This reminds me of something:
docsigma2000: jesus christ man ...!!!!!! FUCK FUCK FUCK
docsigma2000: my son is sooooooo dead
c8info: Why?
docsigma2000: hes been looking at internet web sites in fucking EUROPE
docsigma2000: HE IS SURFING LONG DISTANCE
docsigma2000: our fucking phone bill is gonna be nuts
c8info: Ooh, this is bad. Surfing long distance adds an extra $69.99 to your bill per hour.
docsigma2000:
docsigma2000: is there some plan we can sign up for???
docsigma2000: cuz theres some cool stuff in europe, but i dun wanna pauy that much
c8info: Sorry, no. There is no plan. you'll have to live with it.
docsigma2000: o well, i ccan live without europe intenet sites.
docsigma2000: but till i figure out how to block it hes sooooo dead
c8info: By the way, I'm from Europe, your chatting long distance.
** docsigma2000 has quit (Connection reset by peer)
It's sad, that bash.org is gone. :(
Well... the EU, Australia and Japan/Korea would shit in their pants (because they would become the non-believing axis or evil,
and China and Cuba would come all over the place from having a new ally.
Everyone else would not care and say "same old shit, different day".
On the other hand, as the EU imitates the US in every aspect they can, maybe they would simply become communist too, just in a more bureaucratic way... Hey, in EU's government, because of their bureaucracy, communism could actually work. ;)
This does not change a thing, because the system has by definition give it to the user in an unencrypted form.
There are simple rules to this:
Now put your geek card on the table and slowly move away from the computer. We are taking you to the DRM hell.
You talk, as if there were a difference between corporations and a government.
Nowadays the government is just a club for the feudalistic corporations, to find compromises on their differences for nationwide issues.
The rest is a facade.
Why else would bribing (aka. lobbying) not be a federal "go directly to the pound-me-in-the-ass-prison" crime?
Topdog?
If you look at the speed: yes.
If you look at the features: no.
MySQL got only barely usable trough what you call "bloat".
I, for one, love, that PostgreSQL is as fast as MySQL but feature-complete too.
I wonder how fast PostgreSQL would be, if you removed all the features that yesterday's MySQL. I bet it would crush it. ;)
Hey, why not let the user configure a flag at compile time, that does this. Or modularize it (in code, not in the executable), so that you can toggle the features of your choice. That way, there would be no need for MySQL anymore. :)
Yes, I second that. I love PostgreSQL's documentation. I switched from MySQL to PostgreSQL, and I thing MySQL's documentation is just one step away from a joke.
(I'm no fanboy. MySQL has its own advantages. Even if they are rather sparse.)
Parent is the most insightful comment in a long time.
That's *exactly* what happens now.
But never forget that psychology defines religion as a kind of (mild or bad) schizophrenia. And indeed, if you compare them both, it fits nicely. :\
So the country needs a therapy. As a whole. Unfortunately psychological therapies are still not very effective.
But I learned, that a raise in intelligence often helps people to solve their problems themselves. So my money's on education. (And I'm not talking about the outdated way you know from school. I'm talking about modern methods and more social and emotional education in addition to logic an motor skills.)
You mean like you? :D
Well, I do not take *anything* by the above groups, fanatic or extreme people seriously, and normally I do not even listen to it. ;)
And if they insist, I throw them trough some hard-core logic reasoning shit, where they usually lose pretty quickly.
Maybe they are like me, and can't stand the ambiguity of emotionless text.
I know that slashdot is dominated by logic-dominated humans. But there is much more out there, and many logic-dominated humans have a deficiency in emotional communication, which is rather sadm because they see it as something good. (We are no Vulcans, and pure logic is the opposite of ideal for humans.)
Hierarchies are useless to me. I think they are pretty unnatural and retarded.
In real life, things are not hierarchical. They are a net of relations with variable strengths.
You can get most of that by allowing soft/hard links and tags in file systems. But ultimately, a semantic file system, like http://www.tagsistant.net/, is the only real solution. The trick is, to put it in a comfortable interface. Something still missing a bit, but I'm working on it. (I'm not related to tagsistant.)
But in truth I doubt that there's anyone who can tell you exactly how the brain works, and which pathway belongs to the consistency checking job. If we knew that, we'd already have a working AI.
I think I could. But it's no "pathway". That's not how a NN (neural network) works. In a NN, everything is stored in superimposed states of whole subnets of paths. I can't explain it without thinking more about it, but I think consistency is more a basic property of how a NN works. If you have two output lines... one for going trough door A and one for going trough door B, the signal for door A could be stronger, so that it wins. After that, you will do backwards rationalization (saying that you clearly decided to take that door in the first place), which is a feedback that suppresses the "in this situation I take door B" pathway/state in your brain.
You have learned it.
Sometimes it's impressive how simple the basic mechanism is, and how complex the results are.
Man, have you seen your moderation record? :D
That is a crazy streak of karma boost!
But it's for saying the same thing that I would have said, but being more experienced in the matter, that you have a new friend now.
Hey, what happens, if I - knowing of the possibility of cognitive dissonance - deliberately choose not to choose one, but run with the more useful one, until the other becomes more useful?
I will also deliberately tell myself that this is a great power, being able to juggle with alternate paths of reality to deal with missing information, while not splitting my personality.
Bonus question: Could this be perfected by using superimposed quantum states and/or the uncertainty principle?
P.S.: I love my brain! :D
Cars? Eeewww. Don't tell me you still live in the 20th century where you actually need cars. Pervert!
We ride on flying hot women with internet access and fuckstick-2.0-port. (I bet you're still on 1.0.)
You can't even *imagine* the number of... ehrm... "buttons" they have. O:-)
Don't try to win against me in fantasizing. You don't stand a chance! :D
On a serious note: Included? PCs in a whole? I haven't seen someone buying a PC as a whole for a looong time. Especially not including a keyboard and a mouse. On the other hand... We have a very nice community of people here that actually know how to build a PC out of the devices and help others with it. They usually get something nice in return. :D
To me "PC" always was a word for a set of devices for generic computing use. The CPU is a device. The DVD drive is a device. But a PC - here - is not a device.
P.S.: *Never* try to take me too serious. :D
How bad must you feel when I tell you that I spent my childhood rocking until I threw up cats.
Rockstar for life! ;P
It's very impressive, how your leaders brainwashed you into confusing lazyness with the freedom of leisure instead of being a slave of a company, and seeing elitism (like in, being the best) as something bad.
Well... It's your life. If you want to be a Joe Slave, so be it.
But as soon as those that take advantage of you in this way endanger us too, you're putting me in danger by supporting them. And that's where I have a problem with you.
Luckily I see it as the best, to help you, instead of punishing you.
And yet, my e-penis is much larger than yours. ;)
I have 7 buttons, a scroll ball and 2000 DPI at 1000 Hz on my mouse.
And I actually know how to put it to use.
The Mighty Mouse might look good... like 80s white-plastic-sci-fi.
But in every other aspect it is as bad of a joke as 6-bit-LCDs.
Ergonomics, precision, functionality... you name it...
Apple is not selling a product. It's selling a dream.
I'm sorry, but my fantasy exceeds that dream by far, and I'm not susceptible to professional lying like in religion, hypnosis, politics, marketing, etc.
Luckily for Apple, I'm a rather rare kind of person on this planet.
Mr. Ninja, would you stand up please?
.
.
Mr. Ninja has learned the first lesson of not being seen: Not to stand up.
However, he has chosen a very obvious piece of cover.
BOOOMM!