will dynamically generate a regular expression matching the outbound string
RegEx? Dynamic? Generated?? I don’t think I’m the only one who got the chills and raising hackles from this... I think this deserves an award for the most made-for-disaster concept even conceived. ^^
You got your definition of “stealing” wrong. Because you mixed up meatspace physics (reality) and bitspace physics (the realm of ideas/information).
The crucial point, is that when you steal something, the original owner does not have it anymore. Something that is physically impossible as an atomic action in bitspace. You can copy. You can not move. Hence you can not remove.
Because of those rules, anyone who isn’t delusional does not pass on information he does want to control. So this is a security breach. Plain and simple. And nothing else. Goggle stored its information somewhere not safe enough, and someone was good enough to get it. After that, everything was the same as with every other freely accessible information (like music, movies, text, etc) out there.
Please take off the MAFIAA FUD glasses. Thank you.
You can not steal information. You can copy it. But then the original owner still owns it. Sometimes you can also overwrite the copy that is not stored in people’s minds. But it is a very big difference. Because the one is meatspace, and the other bitspace. Stealing in only applicable to real physical meatspace objects. Everything else is MAFIAA FUD.
Uuum, it seems you have fallen for the one-language-for-everything fallacy.
Bash is not made for big scripts. If your script is bigger than one or two screen pages, I recommend moving on to a full scripting language. I prefer Python here. And this continues. If your code has more than a hand full of files/modules, I recommend switching to Haskell, C/C++, Java, or something more fitting.
In my experience, things grow over time, until they fulfill their purpose and any further growth would result in a monolithic block of bloat. Which is the reason most desktop apps are just exactly that, or about to become like that, while shell tools tend to stay smaller. What we need, is to modularize our GUI apps just like we do with the CLI ones. There are already ideas that go in that direction. From plug-ins over Firefox extensions to all kinds of applets and plasmids. But they all feel like someone did not entirely think it trough to the end.
In a sentence: What they lack is a standard interface for combination. Equivalent to the bash pipes and I/O streams. In bash, it’s all text (normally). But for efficiency reasons, this should be proper data structures for our modern GUI tools.
A beautiful example of this is Maya. Everything you do in Maya’s GUI, is also a command in its shell (nowadays in Python). You can open the console, mark your last actions, and drag them to the button shelf as-is. Done. Now you can then edit that code later, to add loops, properties boxes, other GUI elements, variables, etc.
I really really wish, KDE and Gnome would stop imitating every new horrible function MS thinks up, and start innovating, by doing something like this on the graphical sell level. (I was shocked when I looked at Windows 7 and Vista, and found all those new functions I saw in KDE4 and thought would be their innovation, to be actually standard Windows functions. The only difference: They felt a bit more amateurish and were partially missing functions in KDE4. This is the first KDE, where I literally had to use a old technique I thought I buried with my old Windows installation: After a fresh installation, having to go trough all the menus, and simply switch everything to the exact opposite, to get a working system, usable by actual humans with a working brain. It’s so sad.:(( )
Sure you can “define” art. When all you use is meaningless word shells.
Games are a superset of art. Games are aesthetics + story + gameplay mechanics + technology. And every art you ever find, fits inside that.
Ebert can not be right. No matter how he argues. As the above definition will always stand. Why? Because of the point of art and games.
Games are something, that every intelligent animal does, to train for the real world. Like puppies fighting an a playful manner. Other arts are simply partial applications of that concept. You play with things, to gather new insights. That’s just as much true for a painting that you study with your eyes, a book that you read, a song that you hear etc. Remember that we got at least 3 parts in our brain that use these techniques. The logic part, the emotional part, and the motor part. So sports are fitting right in there (motor training for the real world, to gain new reflexes & co)
Of course we have the same problem that we have with religious people and the concept of a “soul”. They hate making sense of things, because it removes what they call the “magic”, and hence the can’t argue that whatever they defend would be “oh so magically special” anymore.
Man, what happened to the moderators? Are they supplied by 4chan idiots? I can’t even imagine what could possible make anyone mod that as flamebait... it boggles the mind.
Envy? Or just plain retarded dickishness? Whatever. Those people just make themselves look like idiots.
By the way: How about showing the names of whoever moderated your comment? You know, so people have to look their victims in the virtual eyes.
Can someone enlighten me, how someone could possibly see this as a flamebait? What the... I don’t get it. Man, some people should perhaps take of their mental distortion glasses, before misinterpreting weird things into other people’s comments...
It takes me just one single sentence, to refute whatever arguments ever were brought up, are brought up, or ever will be brought up against games being art:
Games are by definition the superset of all art forms ever created.
That’s all you need to say. Films are games minus gameplay/interactivity. Books are just the story part of games. Any classical form of art (paintings, music, sculptures) are just the aesthetic part of games. Toys are (part of) just the gameplay part. Sports are also mostly just the gameplay part. And (tech/demoscene) demos & co. for example are the technology part.
Now what Elbert? There in no way you gonna ever be able to refute this, because it’s physical reality. Like gravity. Does it sting? By the way: Who made you a judge of good art, or art in general, anyway?
I second that. I can’t stand working in unresponsive environments. As someone once said: If you type something, or click on a menu, and it does not instantly appear, there is something deeply wrong with the system.
Also: What’s the problem with different hardware? Just write a script to deal with it, and be done with it.:)
because their culture is too primitive to support nation-states
Please leave your social conditioning at the front door. Nation-states are not better or less primitive than tribes. They are much much worse. Because the only difference between tribes and nation-states, is that in the latter, the single person has less to say, and people are more forced into a morality monoculture of a dominant power. In a tribe, you can’t act like a dick, or you will be kicked out and/or killed. In the former case you can still create your own tribe. In our so-called “modern” countries, you have to adhere to the general rules, or you go to jail. If you disagree, tough shit, cause it’s not going to happen. The mindset is created by a tiny group, and the mass-media floods the minds of the people with it, until everyone thinks it’s normal and the only correct way of thinking. Hell, they even go invade other countries, to enforce their own twisted reality there too.
And on top of that, we lost our networks of trust between real people. We have become cattle. Something that can not ever happen in a tribe.
That is not in any way better than a tribal culture. It’s worse. Because it in not natural for us humans.
Yes, humans normally strongly disagree on many things. That’s not a bad thing. It’s a part of being free. Yes, if there is a resource conflict on a disagreement, there is war. That’s also just normal. It’s part of natural selection. But I doubt me saying this to a group of people who don’t even kill the animals they eat themselves, will change much.:(
How would those make it any more or less true/wrong? Citations are only meaningful for people who fall for the ad populum logic fallacy. Or did you drink too much of the Wikipedia Kool-aid?
Compound this with a manipulative media, and what you get are fat, happy citizens who are staunchly nationalistic and xenophobic. All they care about is money.
Are you sure you’re not talking about the US? I have yet to see fat and happy Chinese people.:/
Not an database. A centralized system can by definition never be really open. Since it will be controlled by one group. What that leads to, can be seen on Wikipedia every day.
Either P2P, shared, with a trust graph... or nothing. Because we’re not falling for that again.
How about Pilsen in the Czech Republic? You know. The city that Pilsener beer is named after. They certainly one of the best, if not the best beer in the world. Or Germany, with its insane amount of breweries. We got two dozen different types of beer of one type brewed in my city alone.
But of course I don’t want to make Belgium or small American breweries look bad. They are a bit more open to new things or experiments. It depends on you, if you consider this a good or a bad thing.
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If you really want to run any program, just "jailbreak" it or sign up as a developer and you can install whatever app you please.
What the... This is a honest question: Are you insane?
Read that sentence again. Really?? ... I mean seriously??
Come on, you got to be trolling.
You forgot
> import Terms;
> import Conditions;
> import HouseRules;
And glegalese test.legalese usually throws a “out of memory exception” or a “stack overflow error”, unless you run it on a supercomputer.
I did also think of Haskell, rather than a quick-and-dirty scripting language without any strictness.
Or, if you have to, Z notation.
Wanna know who wins the game of natural selection?
The one ignoring your rules of ethics.
Plain and simple.
will dynamically generate a regular expression matching the outbound string
RegEx? Dynamic? Generated?? I don’t think I’m the only one who got the chills and raising hackles from this...
I think this deserves an award for the most made-for-disaster concept even conceived. ^^
You got your definition of “stealing” wrong. Because you mixed up meatspace physics (reality) and bitspace physics (the realm of ideas/information).
The crucial point, is that when you steal something, the original owner does not have it anymore.
Something that is physically impossible as an atomic action in bitspace. You can copy. You can not move.
Hence you can not remove.
Because of those rules, anyone who isn’t delusional does not pass on information he does want to control.
So this is a security breach. Plain and simple. And nothing else.
Goggle stored its information somewhere not safe enough, and someone was good enough to get it. After that, everything was the same as with every other freely accessible information (like music, movies, text, etc) out there.
Please take off the MAFIAA FUD glasses. Thank you.
You can not steal information. You can copy it. But then the original owner still owns it. Sometimes you can also overwrite the copy that is not stored in people’s minds. But it is a very big difference. Because the one is meatspace, and the other bitspace.
Stealing in only applicable to real physical meatspace objects. Everything else is MAFIAA FUD.
Uuum, it seems you have fallen for the one-language-for-everything fallacy.
Bash is not made for big scripts. If your script is bigger than one or two screen pages, I recommend moving on to a full scripting language. I prefer Python here.
And this continues. If your code has more than a hand full of files/modules, I recommend switching to Haskell, C/C++, Java, or something more fitting.
In my experience, things grow over time, until they fulfill their purpose and any further growth would result in a monolithic block of bloat. Which is the reason most desktop apps are just exactly that, or about to become like that, while shell tools tend to stay smaller. What we need, is to modularize our GUI apps just like we do with the CLI ones.
There are already ideas that go in that direction. From plug-ins over Firefox extensions to all kinds of applets and plasmids. But they all feel like someone did not entirely think it trough to the end.
In a sentence: What they lack is a standard interface for combination. Equivalent to the bash pipes and I/O streams.
In bash, it’s all text (normally). But for efficiency reasons, this should be proper data structures for our modern GUI tools.
A beautiful example of this is Maya.
Everything you do in Maya’s GUI, is also a command in its shell (nowadays in Python).
You can open the console, mark your last actions, and drag them to the button shelf as-is. Done.
Now you can then edit that code later, to add loops, properties boxes, other GUI elements, variables, etc.
I really really wish, KDE and Gnome would stop imitating every new horrible function MS thinks up, and start innovating, by doing something like this on the graphical sell level. :(( )
(I was shocked when I looked at Windows 7 and Vista, and found all those new functions I saw in KDE4 and thought would be their innovation, to be actually standard Windows functions. The only difference: They felt a bit more amateurish and were partially missing functions in KDE4. This is the first KDE, where I literally had to use a old technique I thought I buried with my old Windows installation: After a fresh installation, having to go trough all the menus, and simply switch everything to the exact opposite, to get a working system, usable by actual humans with a working brain. It’s so sad.
Sure you can “define” art. When all you use is meaningless word shells.
Games are a superset of art. Games are aesthetics + story + gameplay mechanics + technology.
And every art you ever find, fits inside that.
Ebert can not be right. No matter how he argues. As the above definition will always stand.
Why? Because of the point of art and games.
Games are something, that every intelligent animal does, to train for the real world. Like puppies fighting an a playful manner.
Other arts are simply partial applications of that concept. You play with things, to gather new insights. That’s just as much true for a painting that you study with your eyes, a book that you read, a song that you hear etc.
Remember that we got at least 3 parts in our brain that use these techniques. The logic part, the emotional part, and the motor part.
So sports are fitting right in there (motor training for the real world, to gain new reflexes & co)
Of course we have the same problem that we have with religious people and the concept of a “soul”.
They hate making sense of things, because it removes what they call the “magic”, and hence the can’t argue that whatever they defend would be “oh so magically special” anymore.
Man, what happened to the moderators? Are they supplied by 4chan idiots?
I can’t even imagine what could possible make anyone mod that as flamebait... it boggles the mind.
Envy? Or just plain retarded dickishness? Whatever. Those people just make themselves look like idiots.
By the way: How about showing the names of whoever moderated your comment? You know, so people have to look their victims in the virtual eyes.
Oh wow. They should stop giving mod points to trolls... Especially those who can’t recognize emotions (in emoticon form).
Maybe those people should get out more often, instead of being dicks on the net, just because they can (with mod points).
Can someone enlighten me, how someone could possibly see this as a flamebait? What the... I don’t get it.
Man, some people should perhaps take of their mental distortion glasses, before misinterpreting weird things into other people’s comments...
It takes me just one single sentence, to refute whatever arguments ever were brought up, are brought up, or ever will be brought up against games being art:
Games are by definition the superset of all art forms ever created.
That’s all you need to say.
Films are games minus gameplay/interactivity. Books are just the story part of games. Any classical form of art (paintings, music, sculptures) are just the aesthetic part of games. Toys are (part of) just the gameplay part. Sports are also mostly just the gameplay part.
And (tech/demoscene) demos & co. for example are the technology part.
Now what Elbert? There in no way you gonna ever be able to refute this, because it’s physical reality. Like gravity.
Does it sting? By the way: Who made you a judge of good art, or art in general, anyway?
I AM a mythical greek hero, you insensitive clod!
Also, THIS IS SPARTAAAAA!!! *kicks squiggleslash into the pit*
They are Janet Jackson's nipple of the piracy America.
There, fixed that for you. “Nipplegate” is a purely American phenomenon.
I second that. I can’t stand working in unresponsive environments.
As someone once said: If you type something, or click on a menu, and it does not instantly appear, there is something deeply wrong with the system.
Also: What’s the problem with different hardware? Just write a script to deal with it, and be done with it. :)
Thank you for that comment. I wish I could get you a beer for it.
because their culture is too primitive to support nation-states
Please leave your social conditioning at the front door. Nation-states are not better or less primitive than tribes. They are much much worse. Because the only difference between tribes and nation-states, is that in the latter, the single person has less to say, and people are more forced into a morality monoculture of a dominant power.
In a tribe, you can’t act like a dick, or you will be kicked out and/or killed. In the former case you can still create your own tribe.
In our so-called “modern” countries, you have to adhere to the general rules, or you go to jail. If you disagree, tough shit, cause it’s not going to happen. The mindset is created by a tiny group, and the mass-media floods the minds of the people with it, until everyone thinks it’s normal and the only correct way of thinking. Hell, they even go invade other countries, to enforce their own twisted reality there too.
And on top of that, we lost our networks of trust between real people. We have become cattle. Something that can not ever happen in a tribe.
That is not in any way better than a tribal culture. It’s worse. Because it in not natural for us humans.
Yes, humans normally strongly disagree on many things. That’s not a bad thing. It’s a part of being free. :(
Yes, if there is a resource conflict on a disagreement, there is war. That’s also just normal. It’s part of natural selection.
But I doubt me saying this to a group of people who don’t even kill the animals they eat themselves, will change much.
Citations, minus the anecdotes, please.
How would those make it any more or less true/wrong?
Citations are only meaningful for people who fall for the ad populum logic fallacy.
Or did you drink too much of the Wikipedia Kool-aid?
Compound this with a manipulative media, and what you get are fat, happy citizens who are staunchly nationalistic and xenophobic. All they care about is money.
Are you sure you’re not talking about the US? :/
I have yet to see fat and happy Chinese people.
it's time for an open database of places
Not an database. A centralized system can by definition never be really open. Since it will be controlled by one group.
What that leads to, can be seen on Wikipedia every day.
Either P2P, shared, with a trust graph... or nothing.
Because we’re not falling for that again.
How about Pilsen in the Czech Republic? You know. The city that Pilsener beer is named after. They certainly one of the best, if not the best beer in the world.
Or Germany, with its insane amount of breweries. We got two dozen different types of beer of one type brewed in my city alone.
But of course I don’t want to make Belgium or small American breweries look bad. They are a bit more open to new things or experiments. It depends on you, if you consider this a good or a bad thing.
What he meant, is that it’s not legal. Just like those cameras are not legal. Unless there are a big warnings *outside* of its field of view.
Your argument is like saying: Sure you can rape someone. It’s happening all the time.
You mean:
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Old news!
It took this long to find.
Hey, this is the fastest exploit ever done by a user community... of about 3 people. ^^