The value of your job could be 100x. Chances you get a summer internship writing actual code for a project that thousands of people might use is, quite slim.
The problem clicksor and all their competitors have is that they basiclly have a much smaller market share, thus less margins. This results in two things; a) they have to approve every advertiser (sex, casinos etc florish). b) they cant pay as good as adsense does.
This in return gives them (in my opinion, and most people think im a idiot, go figure) a) less qualitative webplaces to advertise on b) more webmasters that are forced to use them (ie, the ones banned from adsense:p)
Creating a negative spiral. I dont know any serious websites using them. Most people only use adbrite for instance to create the occasional CPM-ad they sometimes bring. Adbrite's standard network of ads is totally substandard and doesnt generate revenue anytime _near_ adsense. (Think 0.01 cpc instead of 0.20 in many cases + you get sex and casion related ads instead of whatever your page is about).
Only real alternative is affiliate marketing to amazon etc. But it's not the same kind of income really. There are no conceptual/automatic programs as good and as profitable as adsense to date.
YPN seems to be acceptable, but is currently only allowing US customers in their beta. MSN adCenter (when released) and YPN (when it's public) are imho the only real contestants in this market.
Adsense checks your site when you signup for TOS abuse, so if you pass that you're allowed to display Adsense ads. When they're about to pay you your first cheque they check you again for TOS abuse (and I also suspect they check the quality of the traffic - they can do some measures on how many sales are related to your traffic with adwords for instance).
A guild site to me, sounds like a bunch of kids urging eachother to click the ads from a internal forum / and or to "pay the webhost".
You're right. However, they're cooperating with Sedo, which is in my opinion one of the worst companies* operating online today in terms of moral and etic standards. Sedo are allowed to put adsense on _any_ parked domain they have access to.
And why is Sedo evil? Have you for the last five years tried to register "that great" name for your project only to find out it was taken and pointed to a ad-ridden page? Congratulations, you know what I'm talking about.
They're feasting of peoples ideas and profiting on unfair competition. Sure, I'm 25, I should have been wise enough to invest 50% of my salary back during the it-boom, but still, I didn't and I truly feel sorry for the comming generations that'll have to make due with domains like "www.company-1-2-3-in-boston.com".
* I use Sedo to profit myself by selling websites. That's how much I care about ideals.
You havent been to digg I hear. Where factually correct is a unheard of concept. And incorrect is the norm for most stories. On slashdot it's atleast rumours from respected sources, on digg it's rumours from blogs.
The main problem with digg at the moment is the inmature style of writing most of it users has. A quickly written story about a great thing (tm) will get more diggs than the carefully written one that is posted 5 minutes later. This is a huge disadvantage for digg as I have to read the awfully written summaries to find the goodies.
It's way to easy to cheat Digg. Create 50 accounts and you write buzz-word-compliant texts for all the apple freaks to drool over and you have a instant money-machine. There has been numerous stories on the frontpage that promotes lame blogs and/or worthless tools hacked together by 15yr olds which _never_ would have achieved that kind of attention unless someone was doing something fishy.
I use my phone all the time as a 3g-modem for data. It's awesome. I never even tried videocalls, that doesnt interest me one bit.
Best of all? I've got putty on my phone. You cant beat having access to your servers 24/7. It's nothing you use for casual use, but for emergencies it's unbeatable.
They doesn't have to. But take slashdot as a example. 100,000 people ads their RSS to recheck every 10 minutes (they want the stuff as it happens you know). Most people keep their aggregator going 24/7 - this creates a huge cost in terms of bandwidth. Even at 1kb / request (compressed, 5 item rss feed - most aggregators doesnt use mod_gzip) that'll be 100,000 x 144 = 13gb traffic every day just from RSS. Over 400 gb of traffic every month. Try finding a hosting that give you 400gb transfer for free. Dont forget the dedicated box to serve those requests aswell.
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The value of your job could be 100x. Chances you get a summer internship writing actual code for a project that thousands of people might use is, quite slim.
The problem clicksor and all their competitors have is that they basiclly have a much smaller market share, thus less margins. This results in two things;
:p)
a) they have to approve every advertiser (sex, casinos etc florish).
b) they cant pay as good as adsense does.
This in return gives them (in my opinion, and most people think im a idiot, go figure)
a) less qualitative webplaces to advertise on
b) more webmasters that are forced to use them (ie, the ones banned from adsense
Creating a negative spiral. I dont know any serious websites using them. Most people only use adbrite for instance to create the occasional CPM-ad they sometimes bring. Adbrite's standard network of ads is totally substandard and doesnt generate revenue anytime _near_ adsense. (Think 0.01 cpc instead of 0.20 in many cases + you get sex and casion related ads instead of whatever your page is about).
Clicksor is serious bullshit. So is adbrite.
Only real alternative is affiliate marketing to amazon etc. But it's not the same kind of income really. There are no conceptual/automatic programs as good and as profitable as adsense to date.
YPN seems to be acceptable, but is currently only allowing US customers in their beta. MSN adCenter (when released) and YPN (when it's public) are imho the only real contestants in this market.
There is a logical reason for this;
Adsense checks your site when you signup for TOS abuse, so if you pass that you're allowed to display Adsense ads. When they're about to pay you your first cheque they check you again for TOS abuse (and I also suspect they check the quality of the traffic - they can do some measures on how many sales are related to your traffic with adwords for instance).
A guild site to me, sounds like a bunch of kids urging eachother to click the ads from a internal forum / and or to "pay the webhost".
It doesnt wash your windows? :/
I've got mine set up todo that asyncronously while i browse slashdot.
Not really. Developing in AJAX doesnt exactly speed the process of coding up.
You're right. However, they're cooperating with Sedo, which is in my opinion one of the worst companies* operating online today in terms of moral and etic standards. Sedo are allowed to put adsense on _any_ parked domain they have access to.
And why is Sedo evil? Have you for the last five years tried to register "that great" name for your project only to find out it was taken and pointed to a ad-ridden page? Congratulations, you know what I'm talking about.
They're feasting of peoples ideas and profiting on unfair competition. Sure, I'm 25, I should have been wise enough to invest 50% of my salary back during the it-boom, but still, I didn't and I truly feel sorry for the comming generations that'll have to make due with domains like "www.company-1-2-3-in-boston.com".
* I use Sedo to profit myself by selling websites. That's how much I care about ideals.
Whats _really_ funny is this;
https://www.google.com/adsense/policies
Especially this:
# No Google ad or Google search box may be displayed on any domain parking websites, pop-ups, pop-unders, or in any email.
Do no evil, do not put adsense on parked domains.. err, no, wait.
Does it make it less of "their" invention? Ofcourse, the concept was nothing new.
I bet Steve Jobs is that nasty man in the hat.
Microsoft basically invented ajax..
You havent been to digg I hear. Where factually correct is a unheard of concept. And incorrect is the norm for most stories. On slashdot it's atleast rumours from respected sources, on digg it's rumours from blogs.
The main problem with digg at the moment is the inmature style of writing most of it users has. A quickly written story about a great thing (tm) will get more diggs than the carefully written one that is posted 5 minutes later. This is a huge disadvantage for digg as I have to read the awfully written summaries to find the goodies.
And I'm not even a native english-speaker.
It's way to easy to cheat Digg. Create 50 accounts and you write buzz-word-compliant texts for all the apple freaks to drool over and you have a instant money-machine. There has been numerous stories on the frontpage that promotes lame blogs and/or worthless tools hacked together by 15yr olds which _never_ would have achieved that kind of attention unless someone was doing something fishy.
Ofcourse, I cant prove anything of this .
Only if you consider macos x to run fine on any system :p
There was a new buzzword in the middle of the sentence.
It's more than that, for _network_ ads. Ads on google.com goes directly to google ceo pockets.
No, it's not as good as cash. 80% of that money goes straight back to google's pockets. Most of the ads end up on google.com anyway.
Digg has a feature called "blog" this that just copies the blog summary to your blog verbatim. It makes it very easy todo what these guys are doing.
I use my phone all the time as a 3g-modem for data. It's awesome. I never even tried videocalls, that doesnt interest me one bit.
Best of all? I've got putty on my phone. You cant beat having access to your servers 24/7. It's nothing you use for casual use, but for emergencies it's unbeatable.
Better yet, send them a special "viagra" pill and let evolution have it's way.....
This might very well be one of the funniest comments on slashdot this.. well week. Read it well. Dont tear.
My money, and my eternal hate..
China called me the other day for a interview and I said no because of the Google thing.
Co-indicent?
They doesn't have to. But take slashdot as a example. 100,000 people ads their RSS to recheck every 10 minutes (they want the stuff as it happens you know). Most people keep their aggregator going 24/7 - this creates a huge cost in terms of bandwidth. Even at 1kb / request (compressed, 5 item rss feed - most aggregators doesnt use mod_gzip) that'll be 100,000 x 144 = 13gb traffic every day just from RSS. Over 400 gb of traffic every month. Try finding a hosting that give you 400gb transfer for free. Dont forget the dedicated box to serve those requests aswell.