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Google Propping Up Typosquatting Biz?

An anonymous reader writes "Google is making oodles of cash placing ads on a vast sea of otherwise vacant Web sites that do little more than capitalize on misspelled domain name names, according to a story in today's Washington Post. From the story: 'Google Inc., which runs the largest ad network on the Internet, is making millions of dollars a year by filling otherwise unused Web sites with ads. In many instances, these ad-filled pages appear when users mistype an Internet address, such as BistBuy.com. This new form of advertising is turning into a booming business that some say is cluttering the Internet and could be violating trademark rules.'"

279 comments

  1. WOw that's confusing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll actually have to read the article to see what is going on.

    1. Re:WOw that's confusing by 2.7182 · · Score: 3, Informative

      This quote from the article might help:

      This form of online advertising relies on "type-in traffic," the users who type the information they're looking for directly into the address bar of the Web browser instead of using a search engine to scour the Web. Industry analysts estimate that roughly 15 percent of all Web traffic originates this way.

      Actually I don't see the big deal. This is nothing new.

    2. Re:WOw that's confusing by Feminist-Mom · · Score: 1

      I think the funniest example of this is the whitehouse.com website.

      You send some friend (at work, if you want to be a jerk) an email that says

      Did you hear ? The President just announced that we are pulling out of Iraq!! See the announcement.

      Actually, it's not a bad porn site.

    3. Re:WOw that's confusing by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 4, Funny

      Actually I don't see the big deal. This is nothing new.

      Just the same, I'm going to register a complaint with the Netter Nusiness Nureau.

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    4. Re:WOw that's confusing by DakotaK · · Score: 1

      Whitehouse.com hasn't been a porn site for a long time. They actually changed it because of all the people going there on accident and complaining, IIRC.

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    5. Re:WOw that's confusing by Javagator · · Score: 1

      A few years ago, I was showing my kids how to look up a homework question on the internet (find the names of all the cabinet members). I typed in www.whitehouse.com and got the intern of the month. My kids thought it was pretty funny.

    6. Re:WOw that's confusing by Beardydog · · Score: 1

      How many members did they see?

  2. Whoa! Breaking News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...yeah...How is this news? Typosquatting has been around for a long long time. Did I just make that word up?

    1. Re:Whoa! Breaking News by rs79 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No, it's not news it's a Microsoft plant. Google was the last one to get into this game and nowhere near the leader. Nice try, asshats.

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  3. Example by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. Re:Example by clydemaxwell · · Score: 2, Informative

      The likelihood of someone typing bastbuy.com is far lower than someone typing brstbuy.com (based on key positions); so it's no wonder that brstbuy.com is owned by bestbuy.com!

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    2. Re:Example by Technician · · Score: 1

      I love a good hosts file.

      I got connection refused when contacting www.washingtonpost.com and connection refused when contacting lb1.netster.com.

      No ads to see here.

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  4. Do no evil by WildStream · · Score: 0, Troll

    Does it still apply?

    1. Re:Do no evil by stirlingneg · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Evil is such a nebulous word.
      In the Google dictionary, Evil is defined as something Google doesn't do.

    2. Re:Do no evil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Evil is such a nebulous word.
      In the Google dictionary, Evil is defined as something Google doesn't do.


      I agree. My opinion began to change when I saw in gmail an ad from a company who sells dissertations and schoolwork. Then I wrote to adwords advising it was antiethical. They replied telling me that the editor have the right to decide if an ad was in agreement with editorial guidelines.

  5. In other news... by elwin_windleaf · · Score: 5, Funny

    Typosquatter site BistBuy.com reports record profits and an all-time high hit count.

    1. Re:In other news... by EmoryBrighton · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Here's a list of all the domains in question: We are talking about 123 000 domains:

      Googe-parked domains

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    2. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmmm, bistbuy... must be a New Zealand company.

  6. Hoo sed yoo need ejucashun too mayk munny by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 4, Funny

    Huh?

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    1. Re:Hoo sed yoo need ejucashun too mayk munny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suddenly mis-read "ejucashun" as "ejaculation" instead of education........ me needs sleep I thinks...

  7. I don't blame Google for enabling typosquatting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I blame DNS.

    We should have stuck with numbers. In hex. Would have kept out all the lamers, nannies, and governments.

    Heck we should go back to uucp over dial-up connections.

    1. Re:I don't blame Google for enabling typosquatting by Tinn-Can · · Score: 1

      or we could could learn to spell right... but your idea is cute too...

    2. Re:I don't blame Google for enabling typosquatting by Tinn-Can · · Score: 1

      haha owned myself...

    3. Re:I don't blame Google for enabling typosquatting by TheSpoom · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't blame Google either, considering that the ads aren't placed on the typo-squatting sites BY Google, they're placed by the typo-squatters themselves! What is Google supposed to do, weed out any advertisers that seem like they might be using the ads in a non-standard way?

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    4. Re:I don't blame Google for enabling typosquatting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We'd just end up with typosquatters buying things like "DEADBEED".

    5. Re:I don't blame Google for enabling typosquatting by ajs · · Score: 1

      "I blame DNS. We should have stuck with numbers. In hex."

      "Dude, did you hear about 0xa330d24b's new article on the Pentium 0xFF?!"

      "No way! I've got to check that out... let's see... what was that? 0xa330d34b? ... OMFG! What's that dolphin doing to the... oh. my. God!"

      Yeah, so typos can happen anywhere....

    6. Re:I don't blame Google for enabling typosquatting by crossmr · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why not? PC Gamer among a few others refuses to take ads from gold farmers. Why shouldn't google refuse to pay typosquatters, its not like their page is actually of any remote value.

    7. Re:I don't blame Google for enabling typosquatting by prencher · · Score: 1

      Uh, because they're a business that sells ads?

      It's not like typosquatters wont go elsehwere for ads even if they did block them.. and imagine all the manpower it'd take to do so in any case.

    8. Re:I don't blame Google for enabling typosquatting by crossmr · · Score: 1

      PC gamer is also a business that makes a lot of money from selling ads. There are other magazines and sites that take their crap, but that doesn't mean PC Gamer didn't do the right thing, and it doesn't mean google shouldn't either.

    9. Re:I don't blame Google for enabling typosquatting by Zaphod2016 · · Score: 1

      What is Google supposed to do, weed out any advertisers that seem like they might be using the ads in a non-standard way?

      Yes.

      See, if Google is going to cancel my account without reason, I can say to myself "well, its annoying, but at least I can take solice in the fact that Google is attempting to protect the quality of their service."

      But when they turn around and do shit like this, that argument falls appart.

    10. Re:I don't blame Google for enabling typosquatting by glassjaw+rocks · · Score: 0

      The term you were looking for was "self-owned", or the more popular "cellphoned"

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    11. Re:I don't blame Google for enabling typosquatting by Senzei · · Score: 1
      I don't blame Google either, considering that the ads aren't placed on the typo-squatting sites BY Google, they're placed by the typo-squatters themselves! What is Google supposed to do, weed out any advertisers that seem like they might be using the ads in a non-standard way?

      It is not like the algorithm is especially difficult to figure out.

      1. Find a really popular website
      2. Find a name that consists of a single character change for a nearby key
      3. Post ads related to the topic of the website from #1
      4. Profit

      Obviously if someone says: "Hey, I want to post tech ads on my site, slashdor.org" it would be pretty easy to pick up on, even with a computer algorithm. It might be even easier if Google had access to thousands of websites already indexed from the internet in a way that would let them perform quick searches. Maybe they'll set that up next to help fix the problem.

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  8. Are we calling it something else now? by bluemeep · · Score: 5, Funny

    Back in the olden days of 2004, we used to call it "cybersquatting." Kids these days and their crazy terminology. And their music.

    1. Re:Are we calling it something else now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yo mamma

    2. Re:Are we calling it something else now? by YouCanCallMeAl · · Score: 1, Informative

      Cybersquatting usually applies to registering the actual name (e.g. bestbuy.com) as opposed to misspelled variants.

    3. Re:Are we calling it something else now? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Informative

      Back in the olden days of 2004, we used to call it "cybersquatting." Kids these days and their crazy terminology. And their music.

      Actually, I always thought cybersquatting was more like registering a bunch of potentially valuable domain names and doing nothing with them, until whoever would be rightfully interested in registering a name realizes it's taken and offers money to buy it back. It's a form of racket of course. Typosquatting is rather different.

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    4. Re:Are we calling it something else now? by RevDobbs · · Score: 5, Informative

      Cybersquatting is buying a real a domain with resell value; typosquatting is buying a domain that is spelled similar to a real domain and lapping up typo-induced hits.

    5. Re:Are we calling it something else now? by hackstraw · · Score: 4, Funny

      Actually, I always thought cybersquatting was more like registering a bunch of potentially valuable domain names and doing nothing with them, until whoever would be rightfully interested in registering a name realizes it's taken and offers money to buy it back. It's a form of racket of course. Typosquatting is rather different.

      But that was back in 1999, years before 2004 was ever imagined.

    6. Re:Are we calling it something else now? by bluemeep · · Score: 1

      Ah, I gotcha. It's pure shenanigans either way, I suppose.

    7. Re:Are we calling it something else now? by rah1420 · · Score: 1

      Interestingly enough, not all typo variants are snapped up by the typosquatters.

      I figured I would do what I do unconsciously, and moved my hand one character off of the home row. Bingo, when you go to www.brstbuy.com you get redirected.

      Oh, these guys are smart. :)

      Interestingly enough, it doesn't work by going to bwstbuy.com.

      Oh well.

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    8. Re:Are we calling it something else now? by Anonymous+Cowpat · · Score: 1

      Racket? no.
      It's buying up a limited resource which you think will be valuable to someone - it's just supply and demand with total supply set at 1 (allowing the seller to name their price).
      If there were no trademarks it wouldn't be a problem.
      People deliberately buy up or stockpile limited resources to push the price up so they can sell it on at massive profit - as I understand the major diamond dealers do it, governments do it with gold, several governments do it with currency. The United States did it with Helium in the 1930s (but only against Germany, and look what happened, the Hindenburg Disaster).
      If someone bought up the number plate '5C OGP' (SCO GrouP) or somesuch similar (I can't think of a good example, can you tell?) and the CEO of SCO wanted the number plate for their company car, would you feel it was unreasonable for whoever bought the plate up to turn themselves a tidy profit on it? What about those guys who bought HN51 FLU, should they not be allowed to sell it on to a pharma company at a profit?

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    9. Re:Are we calling it something else now? by darkmeridian · · Score: 1

      Cybersquatting: Internet :: SCO : Patents.

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    10. Re:Are we calling it something else now? by IHC+Navistar · · Score: 1
      You can't spell CRAP without RAP.

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    11. Re:Are we calling it something else now? by Moe+Taxes · · Score: 1

      Typosquatting is just a parked domain with google ads. The real money is in click fraud. You don't need to wait for a fumble fingered surfer, just hire one or two, and take your google checks to the bank.

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  9. Bust Buy ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And what if I'm out to buy a bust?

    1. Re:Bust Buy ? by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 0

      And what if I'm out to buy a bust?

      You make sure you have a qualified plastic surgeon and FDA-approved silicone.

  10. Dodgy Business by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Google is defending its business practices, saying that it removes participating sites from its ad network if a trademark owner complains that those sites are confusingly similar -- even though close misspellings don't necessarily prove that a legal infringement has occurred.

    "Unless it is confusing to somebody, trademark law doesn't apply," said Rose Hagan, Google's chief trademark lawyer.
    Wouldn't it be in Google's best interest to hold the position that these parked domains are NOT confused with some registered trademark?

    I imagine very few businesses can legitimately claim that the ads on bistbuy.com would confuse anyone looking for bestbuy.com.
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    1. Re:Dodgy Business by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I imagine very few businesses can legitimately claim that the ads on bistbuy.com would confuse anyone looking for bestbuy.com."

      I believe there is a concept called "initial interest confusion" that might apply.

    2. Re:Dodgy Business by T-Ranger · · Score: 1

      Id wager that it has to do with when the confusion happens. If a confused and/or drunk customer types in bistbuy.com, thats their fault. If bistbuy.com has banner adds all over the place saying "Electronics here!", then it is them who are causing confusion.

    3. Re:Dodgy Business by logicnazi · · Score: 1

      Uhh, no.

      Even technophobes can tell the difference between the bestbuy website and a website that has ADVERTISEMENTS for electronic stores. If they were actually running an electronics site on that typo name then it might be confusing.

      This is like complaining that target shouldn't be able to build it's new store near the local walmart because some people trying to go to walmart might turn into the target parking lot instead and be confused about what store they were at. Maybe this has happened to some really stoned teenagers but it isn't a serious concern.

      Sure some people might decide to follow the ad on the typo site instead of going to the real site but so what? Consumers benefit from having alternative options offered to them and it's no worse to put some non-annoying ads for competitors on a typo site than it is to buy a billboard ad on the exit ramp to your competitor's store. In both cases the greedy companies would like to prevent anyone from seeing other options/competitors ads but we shouldn't get taken in by their greed.

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    4. Re:Dodgy Business by rtb61 · · Score: 1
      Google does remove web sites that it suspects of click fraud but it still keeps the proft that the click fraud generated and as a bonus does not pay the suspected click fraud site their commision.

      Google searches now have an annoyingly strong bias to pointless sites running adsence making this https://addons.mozilla.org/addon.php?id=743 firefox extension pretty much compulsary.

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  11. OMGLOL!!!! bistbuy was slashdotted!!! by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Safari can't find the server.
    Safari can't open the page "http://www.bistbuy.com/" because it can't find the server "www.bistbuy.com".

    This is a non story. I really don't understand how anyone would hold Google culpable for this.

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    1. Re:OMGLOL!!!! bistbuy was slashdotted!!! by Raindance · · Score: 5, Informative

      The Post claims, "Google Inc., which runs the largest ad network on the Internet, is making millions of dollars a year by filling otherwise unused Web sites with ads. In many instances, these ad-filled pages appear when users mistype an Internet address, such as 'BistBuy.com.'"

      I also couldn't open bistbuy.com --

      Here's what searching whois for bistbuy.com gave me

      Whois Server Version 1.3

      Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
      with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net/
      for detailed information.

            Domain Name: BISTBUY.COM
            Registrar: DOMAINDOORMAN, LLC
            Whois Server: whois.domaindoorman.com
            Referral URL: http://www.domaindoorman.com/
            Name Server: NS1.12GF6.COM
            Name Server: NS2.12GF6.COM
            Name Server: NS3.12GF6.COM
            Status: REDEMPTIONPERIOD
            Updated Date: 29-apr-2006
            Creation Date: 22-nov-2005
            Expiration Date: 22-nov-2006


      Nothing appears to link bistbuy.com (if it ever was a valid destination) to Google.

      I'm not convinced yet that this story is a smear job, but very little of their story appears to check out.

    2. Re:OMGLOL!!!! bistbuy was slashdotted!!! by Breakfast+Pants · · Score: 1

      Updated Date: 29-apr-2006
       
      The date of the story was what, the 30th? Cut them some slack.

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    3. Re:OMGLOL!!!! bistbuy was slashdotted!!! by suv4x4 · · Score: 1

      This is a non story. I really don't understand how anyone would hold Google culpable for this.

      How about this little artifact: Google AdSense for Parked Domains

    4. Re:OMGLOL!!!! bistbuy was slashdotted!!! by Raindance · · Score: 1

      Updated Date: 29-apr-2006

      The date of the story was what, the 30th? Cut them some slack.


      I saw that- domaindoorman could have pulled the domain if they got wind of the story before it was published. Ideally the Post would have used archive.org to spider the page before they even wrote the story.

      However, I don't think we need cut a national newspaper much slack if they run what could be considered a smear job (they single out Google as somehow 'behind' this practice, which is an odd and vague allegation) and the only evidence they cite is, upon inspection, gone.

      Frankly, this is pretty poor journalism.

    5. Re:OMGLOL!!!! bistbuy was slashdotted!!! by sycro · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's not stating that Google runs bistbuy.com. It is stating that the people who do run the site use Google Ads to make money, which makes Google money. And since Google must accept your use of their ad service, Google is promoting this sort of behavior.

    6. Re:OMGLOL!!!! bistbuy was slashdotted!!! by Firehed · · Score: 1

      I don't know what's funnier here... a website so crappy that it can't even run scripts to make Adsense survive a slashdotting, or the fact that slashdotters all went to go see a big ol' page of blank forgetting that Firefox was already blocking all of that nonsense (and typing it in manually at that).

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    7. Re:OMGLOL!!!! bistbuy was slashdotted!!! by Raindance · · Score: 1

      It's not stating that Google runs bistbuy.com. It is stating that the people who do run the site use Google Ads to make money, which makes Google money. And since Google must accept your use of their ad service, Google is promoting this sort of behavior.

      My apologize if my meaning was a bit vague in saying "Nothing appears to link bistbuy.com (if it ever was a valid destination) to Google." I didn't mean to imply Google ran bistbuy.com, but that the Post's reporting was subpar, for the two reasons mentioned in this comment's cousin- I thought the story seemed a bit biased against Google, and there was no effort (via any of the several technological means available) made to perserve the now-ethereal evidence the story cites.

      I suppose one could argue, firstly, that we should hold Google up to a higher standard, as the largest actor in this market and one who has a special parked-domain advertising service. And secondly, that the Post's reporters aren't computer wizzes and we should give them a pass on the "whoops, the domain mentioned in the article, and our main piece of evidence, disappeared" thing.

      But the first is not mentioned in the article, and I don't think excusing the second will lead to better journalism in the future.

    8. Re:OMGLOL!!!! bistbuy was slashdotted!!! by Raindance · · Score: 1

      Yes, starting an email with "My apologize" and then criticizing sloppy journalism. I'm evidently on the ball today... :)

    9. Re:OMGLOL!!!! bistbuy was slashdotted!!! by grazzy · · Score: 4, Informative

      Whats _really_ funny is this;
      https://www.google.com/adsense/policies

      Especially this:
      # No Google ad or Google search box may be displayed on any domain parking websites, pop-ups, pop-unders, or in any email.

      Do no evil, do not put adsense on parked domains.. err, no, wait.

    10. Re:OMGLOL!!!! bistbuy was slashdotted!!! by Richard_at_work · · Score: 1

      Problem is, Googles Adsense for Domains product is pretty much built for this while being marketed for parked domains. Ad revenue on content worthless pages. http://www.google.com/domainpark/

    11. Re:OMGLOL!!!! bistbuy was slashdotted!!! by ggwood · · Score: 1

      "domaindoorman could have pulled the domain if they got wind of the story before it was published. Ideally the Post would have used archive.org to spider the page before they even wrote the story."

      This is the Washington Post, not Wired. I don't imagine they know how to do that. Perhaps if it is relatively straightforward and you send them that as a suggestion in the future, they will.

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    12. Re:OMGLOL!!!! bistbuy was slashdotted!!! by Raindance · · Score: 1

      I'll do that. Thanks.

    13. Re:OMGLOL!!!! bistbuy was slashdotted!!! by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 1

      Yeah, bistbuy was slashdotted, I can't access it either.

      And of course people are holding Google accountable. I'm sure that these are the same people that complain that Google is violating copyright restrictions by linking to them in web searches.

      Furthermore, I don't see how Google is profiting from this. Google's ads are based off of the content contained on the page they're displayed on.

      Now, if a user is looking for bestbuy.com and misspells it as bistbuy.com, they are probably looking for electronic equipment.
      So, unless the site bistbuy.com is an electronics store the ads won't contain anything related to electronics. Thus, the ads won't hold any relevance to the user and therefore they won't click on them.

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    14. Re:OMGLOL!!!! bistbuy was slashdotted!!! by fatgraham · · Score: 3, Informative

      You've misread/notread the article. Google provides a specialised scheme for parking domains with ads.

      http://www.google.com/domainpark/

      which would *seem* like they're encouraging cybersquatting. Personally I don't can't think of what content-based website would get over 750k page visits and need to park their domain...

      just like godaddy and tons of other domain registrars, its adverts on unused domains. except it's google, so it's more newsworthy.

    15. Re:OMGLOL!!!! bistbuy was slashdotted!!! by SydShamino · · Score: 1

      >>> do not put adsense on parked domains..

      BistBuy.com and the like are not a parked domains, they are "commerce portals"... =p

      Seriously, the fact that my main domain goes to a blank page doesn't mean its "parked", it means that I use it primarily for email, and that I don't need or want a commerce site. If I did, though, I could put up a few ads and make some money, just like anyone else.

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    16. Re:OMGLOL!!!! bistbuy was slashdotted!!! by CrazedSanity · · Score: 1

      Indeed. After reading this story (well, okay, during... damn my ADD), I remembered a website that was a spoof of my company's website (www.avsupport.com). They were using an extra "s" (www.avssupport.com), and it was an "adult content" site. Anyway, I did a quick whois on my computer (Linux rocks), and found no matches. I didn't think it was possible to remove a domain from registry like that... WTF?

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  12. ONLy if you are a retard. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where did you learn to read? American Idiot school?

    Quit cluttering up slashdot with your irrelivent comments.

  13. salshdot.org by hankwang · · Score: 4, Informative
    Just tried some misspellings of slashdot.org...
    • salshdot has a frame redirect to slashdot. Does not seem to be affiliated.
    • .com redirects to .org.
    • slsahdot is a misspelling counter. :-)
    • lsashdot.org, slashodt.org, slashdto.org, slashdot.net, slashdot.info, slshdot.org slshdot.org, slahdot.org, slasdot.org, slashot.org, slashdt.org, slashdo.org, salshdot.com - these are all typosquatters.
    • slashdot.biz - is registered but hasn't even a domain parking site
    • Typosquatters pay attention: slashdot.eu is not yet taken!
    1. Re:salshdot.org by mattyrobinson69 · · Score: 2, Funny

      My most common mispelling is slashdot.rog. I have that in my hosts file.

    2. Re:salshdot.org by NayDizz · · Score: 1

      I think we've slashdotted slsahdot. ha.

    3. Re:salshdot.org by stedo · · Score: 1

      You know, thanks to you and the Slashdot Effect, the slsahdot misspelling graphs show a record high...

    4. Re:salshdot.org by compm375 · · Score: 1

      I have "/. " set as a keyword for slashdot in firefox, and I still sometimes manage to misspell it "./".

    5. Re:salshdot.org by mapkinase · · Score: 1
      # slsahdot is a misspelling counter. :-)
      ... that looks like a clever ad for Cricket to me.

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    6. Re:salshdot.org by Oxen · · Score: 1

      Interesting. Its seems that at 12:21 PM today an enormous amount of people started misspelling slashdot. I wonder why all of the sudden people forgot how to spell.

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  14. Wasting people's time by Statecraftsman · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I think the biggest problem with typo-sqauatting and the nastier problem(for web developers) of domain-squatting is that it wastes people's time. It's like traffic when you're on the highway. Wouldn't it be great if you could just make traffic illegal one day? I understand the problem...how can you tell if someone is typo-squatting or doing an original website?

    It's actually quite easy. It should be based on content. If all you see is a list of search categories and lots of ads, it's typo-squatting. If you see original articles and compelling content, it's legit.

    1. Re:Wasting people's time by wik · · Score: 3, Funny

      > It should be based on content. If all you see is a list of search categories and lots of ads, it's typo-squatting.

      Zonk would beg to differ with you.

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    2. Re:Wasting people's time by powerspike · · Score: 1

      some people would consider it a business as well, so .. if we removed all the business websites off the net everything would be solved then wouldn't .. If you see original articles and compelling content, it's legit. Cool, we should be able to removed 99.999% of the sites on the web then !

    3. Re:Wasting people's time by sysAdminEnvy · · Score: 1

      True - man I just went to Google and all I saw wa a bunch of search stuff and some ads - I say we bring that sucker down, it's definitely just wasting people's time

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    4. Re:Wasting people's time by logicnazi · · Score: 1

      But it doesn't waste people's time. If the site doesn't have crazy popups or annoying JS it loads FASTER for me than waiting for the DNS to fail to resolve! Often these sites SAVE me time.

      And if you are a good citizen and put a link to the real site on your typo site you DEFINATLY are doing a good service and saving people time.

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    5. Re:Wasting people's time by thelem · · Score: 1

      Search categories and ads, like http://directory.google.com/ you mean?

  15. BistBuy.com? by NynexNinja · · Score: 3, Informative

    Hmm... bistbuy.com doesnt resolve. Also, the only reference on archive.org from bistbuy.com was in Apr 06, 2004: http://web.archive.org/web/20040406094329/http://w ww.bistbuy.com/ ... Not sure where they are getting their information from... Their two other examples, rearthlink.net and dearthlink.net, also don't resolve. At least their pages at archive.org offer a little more evidence: http://web.archive.org/web/20040331061435/http://w ww.dearthlink.net/

  16. new?? by malraid · · Score: 0, Redundant

    new business?? this is older than the habit of shitting sitting down !

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    1. Re:new?? by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      Well, it's at least older than shitting while sitting down with a wifi enabled laptop.

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    2. Re:new?? by santaliqueur · · Score: 0

      shitting sitting down? i've never heard of such nonsense. what's next, pissing standing up?

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  17. Possible motivation by Rufus211 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This could be an instance of "if you can't beat them, join them." There's going to be typosquatting no matter what. Since it's not going away Google might as well a) make some money off of it, and b) know where all these fake sites are to remove them from their listings.

    Not saying it's the right thing to do, just an idea.

  18. Confusion between "evil" and profit by 9mm+Censor · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I feel that people are confusing "evil" with profit. Google went public. Google is a business. Google now aims (moreso at least) to generate profit for its owners. But doing something that makes money for a company does not make it evil? Who does this hurt?

    1. Re:Confusion between "evil" and profit by hackstraw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I feel that people are confusing "evil" with profit. Google went public. Google is a business. Google now aims (moreso at least) to generate profit for its owners. But doing something that makes money for a company does not make it evil? Who does this hurt?

      Answer me that question once you go to a drugstore on Sunday morning, and you're tying to get rid of that hangover before doing your Sunday church appearance. With a splitting headache, then go to the pain relief isle, but B4Y3R aspirin, that looks just like BAYER aspirin minus the chemicals that relieve pain. But, you forgive the company because its now owned by Google and they owe it to their stockholders to put such products on the shelf.

      Why is it that common sense and reality go out the window when a computer is involved (patent pending)?

      Things with direct analogies to life like email forwarding vs snail mail forwarding don't make sense to people, but things like popup/under advertisements and typosquating makes sense. In the future, will businesses open on 212 Madison Ave when a known company is at 212 Madison St just in case someone gets lost?

      Reminds me of when the only people that really profited off of the gold rush were shovel salesmen and prostitutes.

    2. Re:Confusion between "evil" and profit by PatTheGreat · · Score: 2
      Actually, Google doesn't try to make money for its owners. It may have gone public, but the way the stock is set up, the profits aren't split. The only reason to buy Google stock is in order to sell Google stock.

      So I guess what Google tries to do is whatever the hell it feels like.

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    3. Re:Confusion between "evil" and profit by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Why is it that common sense and reality go out the window when a computer is involved (patent pending)?

      Slashbots worship Google. Always have. Possibly they always will.

    4. Re:Confusion between "evil" and profit by Infernal+Device · · Score: 1

      Maybe you should drink less before going to church.

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    5. Re:Confusion between "evil" and profit by 9mm+Censor · · Score: 1

      Your asprin analogy is stupid. Step by step of what this is: 1) Bob wants to go to website xyz.com 2) Bob types "xyx.com" 3) Company Mega owns "xyx.com" because it knows people like bob cant type 4) Bob sees website xyx.com with some advertizements (to this point bob has not be cohersed, defrauded, or robbed - he has made a mistake and gone to a different site where he gets ads - company xyx did not make him go there, he had control) 5) Bob can either click on an ad if they interest him, or retry going to xyz.com 6) Company Mega potentially profits by giving Bob alternatives to xyz.com End results for all parties envolved Company Mega makes profit Company Mega's clients get exposure Bob gets more choice - Bob isn't being led to belive that xyx.com is xyz.com - that would not be good. Xyz.com either is good enough to make Bob retype the url, or potentially loses business to a site bob saw on xyx.com Only person that can lose here is the owner of xyz.com, and they can arrange to have traffic lead to them if they so choose.

    6. Re:Confusion between "evil" and profit by 9mm+Censor · · Score: 1

      Yes, but no one is going to buy stocks from a company that doesn't make money. However they do it, corparations goals are to make money.

    7. Re:Confusion between "evil" and profit by mjtaylor24601 · · Score: 1

      "Answer me that question once you go to a drugstore...pain relief isle, but B4Y3R aspirin, that looks just like BAYER aspirin minus the chemicals that relieve pain"

      Yes and if BistBuy.com was a phishing site setup to look just like the real Best Buy site in the hopes of stealing your credit card number then this might be a valid analogy.

      But that's not what this article is about. This is talking about giving you a page full of Google adds for other companies completely unrelated to Best Buy. This would be more akin to looking up "bist buy" in the phone book and finding an ad for "Crazy Charlie's discount electronics store".

      Your pharmacy scenario is a problem because someone is trying to pass off an illegitimate product as an actual one by creating brand name confusion. But no one but a complete idiot is going to mistake a page full of Google adds for the Best Buy website so there is no confusion at all. People will just go "oh this isn't the site I wanted", correct the type-o and move on with life. Is it annoying? Maybe. You had to look at a page full of ads you didn't actually want to see. But really it's your own fault for typing in the wrong address.

      I echo the sentiments of the grandparent poster; who is this actually hurting?

      "Why is it that common sense and reality go out the window when a computer is involved"

      Indeed.

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    8. Re:Confusion between "evil" and profit by vertinox · · Score: 1

      I feel that people are confusing "evil" with profit.

      Actually, if I am not mistaken, there is something in the Bible against profiteering and gathering wealth in general, but since I'm not an expert in the subject other than the profit taking, I'm not about to make dogmatic suggestions on to the validity of Google's evilness or not ;)

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    9. Re:Confusion between "evil" and profit by tsu+doh+nimh · · Score: 1

      Who does this hurt? The flip side of Google encouraging this kind of speculation is mentioned in the story for all of you slashdorks fixated on this bistbuy.com example: "Of the 30 million dot-com names registered worldwide last month, more than 90 percent were dropped, according to domain name registrar GoDaddy.com. As a whole, the Internet has only 54 million active .com and .net addresses, according to VeriSign Inc." Tons of people each day who run a small web site or business online find their sites swept out from under them the second after their domain expires because some speculator decided the site got enough traffic that it would be worth $6 to redirect all of that site's previous traffic to some porn site or ad-laden site like the ones mentioned in this story. Yes, this type of activity happened seven years ago, but it's much more efficient and widespread than ever before.

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    10. Re:Confusion between "evil" and profit by logicnazi · · Score: 1

      > Why is it that common sense and reality go out the window when a computer is involved (patent pending)?

      I don't know maybe you could answer that for me. Remember typo squating is NOT about making a fake website to decieve people. That sort of thing is problematic but typo squatting is just about filling an website with ads and no one will confuse the site you meant to visit with the typo site (unless of course you regularly visit sites that look are obviously just front pages filled with ads).

      Typo sites are just about capturing eyeballs for people who meant to go to a big name buisness. The real world equivalent to this is if lots of people in your town take the wrong turn on their way to walmart and someone puts up a billboard in the culdesac that many people accidently turn down. In the real world we would think a company that complained about people making money off their name because they put up advertising near their store were horribly greedy and would dismiss them out of hand. I don't understand why this obvious commonsense doesn't apply to the internet world.

      Of course if the typo site uses lots of popups or annoying JS it's the real world equivalent of delibrately making it tough for the lost driver to get out of his wrong turn and this is why many typo sites have gotten a bad name. However, some typo sites even link to the real site and this clearly makes them a service.

      It's like if you put up a billboard saying, "If you're looking for walmart turn around and take your first left. This helpful message brought to you by so and so the best such and such store you can find."

      Yes many typo sites are bad citizens but I suspect this is just because the bad reputation attracts certain sorts of people and any difficulty getting reasonable non-annoying ads only makes this worse. Letting typo squaters use google ads means less horrible popuup/JS typo squaters

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    11. Re:Confusion between "evil" and profit by thelem · · Score: 1

      This happens today, except B4Y3R aspirin would still be aspirin. One example I remember from a few years back (possibly even before the internet was widespread) was Sainsbury's Classic Cola. They were sued by Coca Cola because their packaging was too similar and confusing to customers, and Sainsbury's were forced to change the packaging.

    12. Re:Confusion between "evil" and profit by logicnazi · · Score: 1

      Exactly! Except the part about how xyz.com can direct all the traffic to them if they want. After all the typo squatter does own the typo domains.

      Basically big corporations are greedily demanding that people don't run into any other options or ads when trying to go to their site, even if this makes the typo apparent more quickly (takes a long time when the name doesn't resolve) and even if the responsible typo squatter provides a link to the real page.

      It's the webbrowser who wins with responsible typo squatting and I can't believe so many people have been taken in by greedy companies PR. I mean lots of typo squatters are bad net citizens and use popups/JS but that is to a great extent BECAUSE so many people have bought into the idea that it is bad to be a typo squatter so the responsible people don't do it.

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    13. Re:Confusion between "evil" and profit by logicnazi · · Score: 1

      I agree this is bad but it really has nothing to do with typo squatting. Unless of course you want to host your personal website at BistBuy.com. Sure there will occasionally be some overlap but what you are complaining about is domain hijacking not doing typo squatting.

      I mean the people who are responsible for this are the registrars who should (maybe they have) implement a waiting period between when a domain name expires and when it can be bought up unless it is explicitly transfered.

      The most responsible thing google could do is let responsible typo squatters use google ads but revoke the accounts of irresponsible ones thus giving an incentive for the typo squatters to be good corporate citizens.

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    14. Re:Confusion between "evil" and profit by afaik_ianal · · Score: 1

      Actually, if I am not mistaken, there is something in the Bible against profiteering and gathering wealth in general

      1. There is a big difference between profiteering and making a profit.
      2. Not everyone lives by the "code of conduct" presented in the bible.

      I personally see nothing intrinsically wrong with gathering wealth. I do have problems with some methods by which it may be gathered. I also have problems with many practices that are condoned in the bible, and see them as completely evil.

      Just because the bible says something is good or bad, does not mean everyone views those things as good or bad.

      If Google were to start sacrificing animals, or keeping slaves (even if they were allowed to go free after the biblically acceptable 7 years), then I would call them evil.

    15. Re:Confusion between "evil" and profit by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      I believe it is only the Hebrew slaves that get to go free after 7 years.

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  19. Missing link by broothal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This link should have been in the article: http://www.google.com/domainpark/

    1. Re:Missing link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That post needs to be modded up to "Score: 5, Informative".

    2. Re:Missing link by SEMW · · Score: 0

      I can't believe this hasn't been highlighted more. That page ( http://www.google.com/domainpark ) is in direct and brazan contradiction to their stated AdSense policies at https://www.google.com/adsense/policies, which say:

      "No Google ad or Google search box may be displayed on any domain parking websites, pop-ups, pop-unders, or in any email."

      Not only there, there's also this entry in their FAQ:

      "Cybersquatting - Sites such as these are not allowed to run the AdSense ad code. Cybersquatting is using a domain name with bad-faith intent to profit from the goodwill of a trademark belonging to someone else. Typosquatting is a form of cybersquatting, based on the probability that a certain number of Internet users will mistype the name of a URL when surfing."

      Quite hard to reconcile with:
      "Maximize revenue on parked pages! AdSense for domains allows domain name registrars and large domain name holders to unlock the value in their parked page inventory"
      [from the google domainpark page], isn't it?

      So much for "do no evil". In my book, Hypocrisy == evil.

      I've emailed Google adsense policy violation to ask about this; I'll post here if they respond.

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  20. Millions? by jamesmacaulay · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The article claims a vague "millions" of dollars at stake, but I'd be interested to know the actual numbers: I know that when I find myself at one of these pages, I am least likely to click on an ad.

    1. Re:Millions? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know the actual numbers for one of the biggest domain registrars (top 3-5) and it is in millions of USD/year - projected revenue about 5 mil for 2006.

    2. Re:Millions? by pedantic+bore · · Score: 0
      That's not how the business works. You don't need to click on an ad, you just need to look at it. Thanks to your typo, you've just been shown a lot of ads, and caused money to change hands.

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  21. no it will not by ickeicke · · Score: 1

    it's down

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    1. Re:no it will not by cyclopropene · · Score: 3, Funny

      it's down

      Must be the slashdor effect.

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    2. Re:no it will not by dlZ · · Score: 1

      Must be the slashdor effect.

      Thank you for that great link! I have been selected to win the hourly prize! And I normally never win anything.

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    3. Re:no it will not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm the owner of Slashdor.org. Please visit my site and click on all the links, repeatedly. Please bookmark my site and do this every day.

      I currently make 45 cents per click on most of the ads on that page, as reported by Google adsense . Hopefully with all your help, I can raise that a few cents. Thanks.

      P.S. I hope Google doesn't find out that I'm asking for clicks and reporting my income. They might drop me from the ad program. Please don't tell them. Thx K bye.

    4. Re:no it will not by storem · · Score: 1

      slashdor.org: This domain may be for sale by its owner! Does this practise actually free you from being a domainsquatter? No openly saying you are selling the domain, but saying you 'might" consider selling it? In the long run, I guess we need to have a service detecting the typos, at one point it will be an extension to Firefox... anyone? PS: I'm a squatter too I guess, owning startrek.org. But I'm not earning a buck with that site (giving away free webmail), and Paramount already has all the other extensions.

  22. Reporter needs more research by radiogeak · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think the reporter needs to do a little more research. If your a company who advertises on google, you have control over what kinds of searches match your add. If you find that a certain search term brings up your company more then you'd like, you can simply append a "-[search term]" to your access control list. Problem solved. The reporter uses BistBuy.com as a example. Could Best Buy be heading this report? Maybe Best Buy has some incompitent employees? Nooo, couldn't be ;)

    1. Re:Reporter needs more research by fatphil · · Score: 1

      OT, but fun:

      <URL:http://www.improveverywhere.com/mission_view. php?mission_id=57>

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  23. any minute now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how long till someone writes an entire essay now defending Google and showing how this practise is actually advancing world peace and giving the oppressed a new weapon to fight for their freedom?

  24. Basic concepts not taught in schools. by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    This is a sin of omission, rather than commission. Whether or not you have an issue with the religious terminology, the concept is a useful one to be taught in schools but doesn't for whatever reason, but the idea that it may not be "secular" enough may play into it.

    1. Re:Basic concepts not taught in schools. by IvyKing · · Score: 1
      This is a sin of omission, rather than commission.

      What's makes it even worse for people who are allergic to religion, is that the concept is a big one on the Catholic Church,

      The legal largely ignores "sins of omission", but there are a few exceptions, notably knowing about plans to commit a capital crime.

    2. Re:Basic concepts not taught in schools. by Arker · · Score: 1

      Realistically, what can google do?

      This is going to happen with or without them. They can pick up a few dollars from the morons *shrug.*

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  25. This is like real estate by SetupWeasel · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If they don't do anything illegal with their site, it should be their right to whatever name they want. Are you going to tell me that no one can open a restaurant near a McDonalds? It's the same deal. It may feel shady. Some may be shady, but it is only fair as long as they are not stealing or commiting other crime with it.

    It's a logical progression of this thought that allows corporations to force people off their legal sites because they have the same name. You don't like EToy suing etoy? Deal with the "typosquatters."

    1. Re:This is like real estate by stubear · · Score: 1

      It's not like opening a restaurant near McDonald's, it's like opening a restaurant near McDonald's and naming it MacDonald's and hoping people won't know the difference.

    2. Re:This is like real estate by MythoBeast · · Score: 1

      It's not like opening a restaurant near McDonald's, it's like opening a restaurant near McDonald's and naming it MacDonald's and hoping people won't know the difference.

      Um, no. It's like opening a store next to McDonalds (with the golden arches) named MacDonalds (with big green letters on a blue background) and selling lawn and garden supplies. This is only illegal if they also swipe the look and feel of McDonald's logos, such as to encourage people to think that they are in some way affiliated with the fast food company.

      It is an extremely rare occasion when people look at a typosquatting site and confuse it with the site that they thought they were looking for. They're pretty obvious. Unless they make some attempt to emulate the typo'd site, then they're not fooling anyone, and they're not doing anything illegal, immoral, or even vaguely in bad taste.

      I think I'm going to invent a new term. Googlesniping: trying to convince the world that something is suddenly evil simply because Google has started doing it.

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    3. Re:This is like real estate by mindstormpt · · Score: 1

      I fully agree with you, every one should have the right to register any domain they want, at least those not exactly equal to a trademarked name. That being said, I believe the right analogy would be someone opening a store near McDonalds and naming it McDonalsd.

    4. Re:This is like real estate by cervo · · Score: 1

      Speaking of stealing the golden arches, this reminds me so much of the movie "Coming to America" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094898/ starring Eddie Murphy/Arsenio Hall. They were working at McDowell's restaurant which did have a golden arch.
      http://www.spreadshirt.net/shop.php?op=article&ac= details&article_id=1634806 is a t-shirt to spoof the movie showing the arch.

    5. Re:This is like real estate by RedStar · · Score: 1

      "I think I'm going to invent a new term. Googlesniping"
      As opposed to Googlesainting : trying to convince the world that something is suddenly good simply because Google has started doing it.

    6. Re:This is like real estate by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      web addresses are just that, addresses. the pages look nothing like the real page and do not trick users into thinking they are at bestbuy.com.

      This IS like opening a restaraunt next to McDonalds, and putting your enterance driveway on the plot edge so it is slightly confusing to drivers as they pull in which restaraunt they are going to untill they actually pull in. most leave and go to McDonalds but a few will stay for a while.

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    7. Re:This is like real estate by tsu+doh+nimh · · Score: 1

      Get YOUR facts straight. For all of you who haven't bothered to read the text of the Anti-Cybersquatting Consumer Protection Act, for a judge or jury to find for the plaintiff on one of these typosquatting cases, they must merely find that the defendant's domain on balance violated five or more of the following nine factors listed as violations of the law:

      (i) the trademark or other intellectual property rights of the person, if any, in the domain name;
      (ii) the extent to which the domain name consists of the legal name of the person or a name that is otherwise commonly used to identify that person;
      (iii) the person's prior use, if any, of the domain name in connection with the bona fide offering of any goods or services;
      (iv) the person's bona fide noncommercial or fair use of the mark in a
      site accessible under the domain name;
      (v) the person's intent to divert consumers from the mark owner's online location to a site accessible under the domain name that could harm the goodwill represented by the mark, either for commercial gain or with the intent to tarnish or disparage the mark, by creating a likelihood of confusion as to the source, sponsorship, affiliation, or endorsement of the site;
      (vi) the person's offer to transfer, sell, or otherwise assign the domain name to the mark owner or any third party for financial gain without having used, or having an intent to use, the domain name in the bona fide offering of any goods or services, or the person's prior conduct indicating a pattern of such conduct;
      (vii) the person's provision of material and misleading false contact information when applying for the registration of the domain name, the person's intentional failure to maintain accurate contact information, or the person's prior conduct indicating a pattern of such conduct;
      (viii) the person's registration or acquisition of multiple domain names which the person knows are identical or confusingly similar to marks of others that are distinctive at the time of registration of such domain names, or dilutive of famous marks of others that are famous at the time of registration of such domain names, without regard to the goods or services of the parties; and
      (ix) the extent to which the mark incorporated in the person's domain name registration is or is not distinctive and famous within the meaning of subsection (c)(1) of this section.

      Read these through: If you know anything about the law, you will probably come to the conclusion that a large share of these look-alike typo domains violated the ACPA (particularly the ones that feature ads that link directly back to the REAL site of the ACTUL trademark holder...or claim to and then lead the visitor into a circle hell of other ad pages).

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    8. Re:This is like real estate by MythoBeast · · Score: 1

      Get YOUR facts straight. For all of you who haven't bothered to read the text of the Anti-Cybersquatting Consumer Protection Act, for a judge or jury to find for the plaintiff on one of these typosquatting cases, they must merely find that the defendant's domain on balance violated five or more of the following nine factors listed as violations of the law:

      Was this meant to contradict me? It seems that you're supporting my point, so I'll reiterate it. There's nothing wrong with buying a typo-prone domain and putting miscellaneous advertisement on it the way Google does. If they were to create a "look-alike" typosquatting domain with the intent to siphon business off of the non-typo business, then they'd be doing something wrong, but that's not what they're doing.

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    9. Re:This is like real estate by logicnazi · · Score: 1

      First of all this is a totally bogus argument. It's like posting the text of the DMCA and arguing that google shouldn't be letting cryptographic researchers use adsense on their sites.

      The fact that the big companies have influence in congress and can get their notion of IP passed into law doesn't make it right and it certainly doesn't make it google's responsibility to enforce that law.

      Moreover, you are radically misinterpreting the text of that act you sited.

      All of the conditions detailed in this legislation talk about things that DILUTE the trademark/IP of the person owning the original name or about people who cybersquat (register 'BestBuy.com' before Bestbuy does and try to extort money out of them for the name).

      Typo squatters aren't cyber squatters or domain hijackers. The company usually doesn't even want the typo domain anyway (I know of almost no companies who bother to register misspellings ..and then it is usually just about stopping typo squatting not because they really want the name). In the case of typo squatting the companies are just complaining because on the way to their site the customer might see an ad for another site and decide to go their instead or they are just being greedily outraged that someone else could be making money on traffic they generated.

      Most typo squatters have sites which aren't confusing in the slightest with the real site and hence aren't diluting the trademark or giving the real company a bad rap. Certainly not responsible typo squatters who link to the real site on their page.

      On the internet domain names are the equivalent of places in the real world. The better analogy is just putting up a billboard next to the highly trafficed local McDonalds. If the page is obviously not the company/trademark the consumer was looking for it isn't even like naming your home and garden store MacDonald's but more like just advertising for it next to McDonalds.

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  26. Another idiocy of DNS by postbigbang · · Score: 4, Insightful

    First, there was the highly enlightening 404, if there was a resolution at all. Then there was the typosquatters. My fav was Micros0ft.com.

    But all of those are better than intercepts, which are surprisingly common these days in 'walled gardens'. I'll take a squatter, and if google can make some $$ on them, so much the better.

    DNS is primitive, insecure, rife for diddling, and as goofy as SMTP. Yes, these were all good in their day. And yes, they were made out of brittle plastic, not visionary armor. So, google makes a few bucks. Ho fracking hum. More power to them. If I get a wrong phone #, does someone give me a list of alternatives? No, but they're often helpful as in "oh, that's a 6 not a 9" or something. With DNS you get a squat, not found, or a typosquat. How droll.

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    1. Re:Another idiocy of DNS by davidstrauss · · Score: 1

      When the Church of Scientology bought out the bankrupt remains of the Cult Awareness Network, they very certainly squatted on the original phone number with a new purpose.

    2. Re:Another idiocy of DNS by lamebrane · · Score: 1
      Please mod parent up. Best comment I've seen on this.

      We're onto a totally new way of trading information/leads. When we go to a site, say GM.COM, are we reading the reality of GM, or what some PR folks have decided that the non-stockholders can see? Does this extend to the swill that is ejected by our governments?

      This whole arena reminds me of Snow Crash - our expected reality may be another's unexpected daydream (or visa-versa - now I'm confused.)

  27. It *was* there by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

    This is all from GoDaddy's website

    Registry Status: REDEMPTIONPERIOD
    Registry Status: redemptionPeriod

    Domain Name: BISTBUY.COM
    Registrar: DOMAINDOORMAN, LLC
    Whois Server: whois.domaindoorman.com
    Referral URL: http://www.domaindoorman.com/
    Name Server: NS3.12GF6.COM
    Name Server: NS2.12GF6.COM
    Name Server: NS1.12GF6.COM
    Status: REDEMPTIONPERIOD
    EPP Status: redemptionPeriod
    Updated Date: 29-Apr-2006
    Creation Date: 21-Nov-2005
    Expiration Date: 21-Nov-2006

    >>> Last update of whois database: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 15:46:50 EDT

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  28. let them waste money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Frankly, I don't care who advertises on sites I don't visit. I navigate using bookmarks, links, and autocompletion.

  29. Fat Fingers by nickgrieve · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Someone must have some big fat fingers if they hit the "i" when going for the "e"...

    nit pick :)

    1. Re:Fat Fingers by Plunky · · Score: 1
      Yeah, uh.. Lesson 1.

      place your hands on the keyboard now in the 'home' position, that is relaxed with your index fingers on the f and j buttons and the other fingers on the keys alongside. Feel the little dimple or whatever there is there. Caress it, yeah.

      Now, use the longest finger on the left hand (whats that called, the 'fuck you' finger?) and extend it slightly until it sits on the top row. Thats right, its on the e button!

      Now here is the clever bit.. Stretch the 'fuck you' finger of the right hand to the top row.. whaddya know! There is your i, don't poke your finger in it.

      Its quite common for beginner touch typists to use the wrong hand..

    2. Re:Fat Fingers by JavaTHut · · Score: 1

      Someone must have some big fat fingers if they hit the "i" when going for the "e"...


      I wonder if it's profitable to register typo's for DVORAK keyboards or speech recognition systems.
    3. Re:Fat Fingers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The article has it all wrong "bistbuy.com" is actually typosquatting on the popular site "fistguy.com"

    4. Re:Fat Fingers by darkmeridian · · Score: 1

      Or someone could have used the right hand instead of their left to type the letter. Because "i" is on the place where "e" would be if they used the right hand: the left one. Haha!

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    5. Re:Fat Fingers by toddestan · · Score: 1

      I wonder if it's profitable to register typo's for DVORAK keyboards or speech recognition systems.

      Looks like someone may be trying it: http://www.ebaf.com/

  30. Now you know... by suv4x4 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Now you know why Microsoft is working hard on a set of tools that prevent typosquatting.

    However in this case, Google is pretty obviously doing *evil* by the very definition of the word, and that definitely speaks bad of it.

    Google specifically has tools and offers for filling vacant domains with ads... WHO would use that except domains of generic words and typosquatters? No excuses this time, Google.

    1. Re:Now you know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is this evil? Not everyone who has a parked domain is typosquatting. There are thousands of parked domains for names that are products that might come, or have been canceled. You're a dolt. Google takes the ads down on pages that aren't infringing on any law, but still generate a complaint by a trademark holder. Go back to redmond, you troll.

    2. Re:Now you know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know what is evil? Not this. What is evil is taking what you typed in your address bar in your web browser and redirecting it to Microsoft's website because Microsoft decided you wanted to search with them. That is evil. Another evil? Microsoft announces it is going to spend way more money on advertising this coming year than in past years. How does the market react? The Washington Post paper suddenly commissions a "news" article on how Google is responsible for people mistyping names in their web browser address bar. Guess which paper Microsoft is going to pay for advertising in? Guess which paper expected Microsoft to pay for advertising in after that article? That's right. Now that is the very definition of evil: A corporations buying bad press for their competitor from a corrupt newspaper organization.

    3. Re:Now you know... by kabz · · Score: 2, Funny

      New Google Motto: "Do no Evli !!"

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    4. Re:Now you know... by suv4x4 · · Score: 1

      What is evil is taking what you typed in your address bar in your web browser and redirecting it to Microsoft's website because Microsoft decided you wanted to search with them. That is evil.

      Oh that's exactly what Google does with AOL Explorer, Opera, Firefox and Netscape. Thanks for supporting my view.

  31. Maybe a software solution? by dominion · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Has anybody thought to add a feature to firefox (or maybe an extension) whereby if a user misspells a domain name, it gives the option to correct the spelling?

    1. Re:Maybe a software solution? by Multivitavim · · Score: 1

      I'm sure Microsoft is working on that:

      Dialog Box: "You seem to have mistakenly entered the URL for %site_critical_of_microsoft% when surely you meant http://live.com/ therefore your browser session has been hijac^H^H^H^H^Hhelpfully redirected."

    2. Re:Maybe a software solution? by fm6 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How do you define "misspelled"? It may be obvious to you that "bistbuy.com" is phony, but to a browser it's just another — valid — domain name.

    3. Re:Maybe a software solution? by Bogtha · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How do you determine what's a mistake and what's a legitimate domain? I don't want my browser to go to flicker.com when I typed flickr.com, and I don't want my browser to go to dig.com when I typed digg.com.

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    4. Re:Maybe a software solution? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do you determine what's a mistake and what's a legitimate domain? I don't want my browser to go to flicker.com when I typed flickr.com, and I don't want my browser to go to dig.com when I typed digg.com.

      Good question. How about if the browser doesn't come with any preconceived notions of what is a mistake and what is legitimate? It could be based on (a) how recently you have visited, say, slashdot.org as opposed to slashdto.org, and (b) how many pages you've visited at either site. If neither is a clear preference, then go with what the user typed. If the user appears to have typed the wrong thing, don't redirect him/her automatically, but pop up a window "did you mean http://slashdot.org/?"

      Keep in mind, people don't often type in the URLs of pages they've never been to before.

    5. Re:Maybe a software solution? by encyclo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Google" is itself a misspelling - so should all requests for Google go to Googol?

      Another example - "slashdot" is not a real word - so should Slashdot.org go to Slashers.org? :)

    6. Re:Maybe a software solution? by m50d · · Score: 1

      Anything hosted on a list of about half a dozen parking servers? 90+% of the typosqats I see are exactly the same type of page.

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    7. Re:Maybe a software solution? by thepotoo · · Score: 1
      chances are you go visit a half-dozen sites regulary.
      When you mistype one of these (for example, you type www.slashdoty.org), it redirects you.

      Unless, of course, you are holding down an override key, similar to firewalls and pop-up blockers.

      So if I actually wanted to go to slashdoty.org, I'd hold down the shift key, and it doesn't redirect me.

      The extention would just keep track of the most visited sites and create redirects for them.

      You can manually add and remove sites from the list, and it will redirect you to them.

      At least, that's one way it could work. The trouble with this system is that we've already got something for the most commonly visited sites - it's called the bookmarks toolbar.

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    8. Re:Maybe a software solution? by fm6 · · Score: 1

      So instead of just sending me to the page, the browser will compute the IP number, then check it against a blacklist. I guess that would work, but I'm not sure it's worth the trouble — it's not that hard to recognize a typosquatter! Also, blacklists are too easily abused, as the anti-spam crusaders have thoroughly demonstrated.

    9. Re:Maybe a software solution? by KefabiMe · · Score: 1

      Has anybody thought to add a feature to firefox (or maybe an extension) whereby if a user misspells a domain name, it gives the option to correct the spelling?

      Just do it as an extension. I don't need that in the brower itself!

    10. Re:Maybe a software solution? by m50d · · Score: 1

      It's not recognising the typosquatter that's the problem, it's closing the 6000 popups. There wouldn't be that much benfeit, but it can't be much work to implement.

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    11. Re:Maybe a software solution? by fm6 · · Score: 1
      Typosquatters aren't the only sites that go crazy with popups. The best way to avoid them is a popup blocker, though many sites are getting good at circumventing blockers.

      One feature I often wish for is a script disabler with an automatic whitelist. The first time you visited a site that used scripts, it would ask you if you wanted to let the site run scripts, and only add the site to the whitelist if you said "yes". That would effectively prevent most popups.

    12. Re:Maybe a software solution? by m50d · · Score: 1
      Typosquatters aren't the only sites that go crazy with popups. The best way to avoid them is a popup blocker, though many sites are getting good at circumventing blockers.

      I know, but I don't like blocking them, there are places which use them properly.

      One feature I often wish for is a script disabler with an automatic whitelist. The first time you visited a site that used scripts, it would ask you if you wanted to let the site run scripts, and only add the site to the whitelist if you said "yes". That would effectively prevent most popups.

      Konqueror can pretty much do this - set the global policy on allowing javascript to open new windows to "ask".

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    13. Re:Maybe a software solution? by fm6 · · Score: 1
      I know, but I don't like blocking them, there are places which use them properly.
      Then use a blocker that lets you enable them for non-obnoxious sites. The blocker that's built into Firefox tells you when it's blocking, and gives you the option of adding the current site to a whitelist.
    14. Re:Maybe a software solution? by m50d · · Score: 1

      That wastes enough effort it's easier to just avoid the obnoxious sites.

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    15. Re:Maybe a software solution? by fm6 · · Score: 1

      Let's see, there's a site I visit a lot, and I can't seem to ever type the address correctly. There must be a solution. Oh wait....

  32. One more reason to Google and forget the URL by rueger · · Score: 1

    Seriously, if you misspell, Google will spot it and suggest the right spelling and URL in most cases. Why bother typing in the URL?

    Beyond that, isn't it time that web browsers reached the point where they could spot and fix obvious typing errors like "ww" instead of "www" or missing periods like "wwwbestbuy.com" instead of "www.bestbuy.com?"

    Surely this would be an easy and useful improvement.

    1. Re:One more reason to Google and forget the URL by FyRE666 · · Score: 1

      I'm right there with you on this - and if I hadn't replied, I'd have modded you up ;-) I don't see why Firefox can't look for say wwwsomesite.com first, then if nothing, try www.somesite.com. Same with the ww. typos. I'll sometimes bang in a URL too quickly and typo like that, then realise and click on the URL bar - which in Firefox hilights the whole URL, annoyingly, then click again, then the browser tells me it can't find the site and resets the caret to the end of the damned URL as I'm typing!

      I know, I should hit the stop button, but I always try to beat the browser (page not found) for some reason even I can't understand!

    2. Re:One more reason to Google and forget the URL by Rogue+Pat · · Score: 1
      Am i the only one that gets Clippy-infected nightmares with what you're proposing?
      It looks like you are making a mistake in the URL you typed. I have corrected this for you
      MS Office products have instilled a great loathing for any automatic corrections by software whatsoever. Think autocapitalization, indentation, bulleting etc.
  33. Names, not real-estate by fm6 · · Score: 1
    Are you going to tell me that no one can open a restaurant near a McDonalds? It's the same deal.
    We're talking name recognition here. And as it happens, you picked the perfect example of that issue: when was the last time you saw a restaurant, other than McDonalds, that had "Mc" or "Mac" in its name? McDonalds claims that any such operation is "potentially confusing" with theirs. You might claim that they're abusing the law, and if you did I'd agree with you. But the fact remains that nobody finds it worthwhile to defy them on this point.

    They same principle applies to domain names. So don't start a web site that has anything to do with the restaurant business called "McDanolds.com" — you'll get a cease-and-desist letter faster than you can say, "your french fries suck".

    1. Re:Names, not real-estate by chrwei · · Score: 1

      Speaking of, did you visit McDanolds.com? It exists, and has links on it like "First Ever Happy Meal" and "Food Chart For Mcdanolds". It's been registered for less than 6 months though, maybe McDee's lawyers are just being a bit slow?

      Since typo-parked domains don't offer the same services as the domains they target, where's the legal ground? In meatspace, say McDonald's Book Shop opend up right next to a McDonald's burger joint, would the latter have any legal ground to have the former closed? After all, McDonald's Book Shop has an established buisness and is simply expanding to an atractive area.

      typo parking isn't going away, but eventualy, pay-pre-view ads will. they are already failrly worthless.

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    2. Re:Names, not real-estate by fm6 · · Score: 1
      Speaking of, did you visit McDanolds.com? It exists, and has links on it like "First Ever Happy Meal" and "Food Chart For Mcdanolds". It's been registered for less than 6 months though, maybe McDee's lawyers are just being a bit slow?
      Did you click on any of the links? They're all just machine-generated nonsense, a sort of brute force link spamming. And here's what I find really interesting: none of them point to anything resembling a restaurant.
      Since typo-parked domains don't offer the same services as the domains they target, where's the legal ground?
      "Legal grounds" is beside the point. This is not about legal fairness, this is about the cost of litigation. If you own a small business, whether it's in meatspace or online, you do not want to get into a legal hassle with a big company like McDonalds. They can spend as much as they need to in order to prolong litigation. You can't, not unless you're willing to put up everything you own to pay the legal bills. If you do that, maybe you'll convince the courts that the big company has a bogus legal theory, and maybe you'll even force them to pay your legal costs. (Forget about countersuing them for "frivolous litigation", that's pretty much unwinable.) That's too many "maybes" for most people — which is why nobody has ever challenged McDonald's trademark claims
  34. Ahem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This new form of advertising is turning into a booming business that some say is cluttering the Internet and could be violating trademark rules. Ahem... add to that 1- confusing internet users 2- shifting revenue from acutal sites that employ people, to some black hole looking to suck more clicks in. ...oh wait nevermind, Google is the best in the world, and they are my master, and I love Gooooogle sooooo much. OMG Ponies!!!

  35. Trademark confusion by jdwclemson · · Score: 3, Interesting

    One of the biggest problems with the internet and legal issues like this is that lack of ability for people to use analogy to see how inconsistant the laws and regulations can be. Imagine if everytime a new book came out, somebody put out a crappy one with an almost identical name. Go to the book store to get a present for your mother and you come back with "The DiVinco Code". Such there are lots of weasels who would clain they are not the same, but clearly this is a NO value added knockoff. If somebody wants to create sites that show advertisements, they should either pay advertising for other web sites, or add value in a way that brings people in and spreads the word. Not only is the networking traffic created by this a loss, there is also the loss in time for those people who have to evaluate the squatter and determine if it is the desired site. Trademarks allow organizations to be referenced to, and develop a reputation. Think of companies like NewEgg, benchmarks like Anandtech, articles like Slashdot. If you tell people to visit slashdot for news on technology(like I have many times) it hurts Slashdot AND the viewer when they mistakingly go to slushdot, or sashdot and this devalues the ability of organizations to build a name based upon their trademarks. If my friends go to Neweg(by mistake) and gets faulty video card from a lousy organization, this hurts my friends, Newegg, and everybody else who is duped into making a purchase from an undeserving company. I realize that money will be a driving factor in this chaos, but I think it would be interesting if there was a project(maybe firefox or DNS based) where people could register all of the squatter scam sites and keep an updated database so that when such mistakes were made, the correction was made before any harm could be done. Anybody up for it?

    1. Re:Trademark confusion by MorderVonAllem · · Score: 1

      simple solution to typo-squatting...learning to splel. If people paid more attention to what they're doing this problem would solve itself

    2. Re:Trademark confusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem with a central database of squatter sites, like all such central registries, is that it provides a central point for censorship.

      If a site is listed as a squatter, it'll be blocked/redirected even if it's a real site. It depends entirely upon the people who control the registry.

      That said, a system might work if it didn't maintain a single database, but allowed _anyone_ to create and share a database. Each user would have to choose whom to trust and to what degree. The problem with this is still that browsers will come with default "trusted" settings, and most users will never change them (nor know they exist); effectively, you're back to square one, with the vast majority of users all trusting one central authority.

    3. Re:Trademark confusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about if we just register all of the legitamate sites instead? And what if we used SSL encryption to verify that we were really hitting the right website, getting around fishing as well? There is such a registry. It's run by verisign. Now firefox just needs a feature to block any website not verified by verisign. This could be added trivially, but it hasn't because no-one wants it. There's nothing wrong with such a feature, but it's scary and I'd turn it off the second it hit my machine. Using verasign, or your database someone else is affectivly censoring the internet for me. If I add "fixing" website names to my browser my browser is now censoring the net. If I say to visit a site, I want my browser to go there.

      Call me paranoid, but I don't trust centralized solutions to identity verification. Give me pretty good privacy any day.

    4. Re:Trademark confusion by cfulmer · · Score: 1

      There is a big difference between what most of these ad sites do and your newegg example. Trademark is all about preventing consumers from being confused. Most typo-squatting sites are clearly such -- no reasonable consumer could mistake them for the site that they're trying to reach.

      If, on the other hand, somebody were to go to neweg.com and get another vendor of computer hardware, that might actually cause confusion and there would be an action for trademark infringement.

      There was a famous case in the U.S., involving a store, "Victor's Little Secret" being sued by victoria's secret. The court found that there wasn't any evidence of confusion and thus no trademark infringement. Website domain names are generally treated the same way, at least by trademark law.

    5. Re:Trademark confusion by raoul666 · · Score: 1

      Imagine if everytime a new book came out, somebody put out a crappy one with an almost identical name. Go to the book store to get a present for your mother and you come back with "The DiVinco Code".

      You do realize that this is fully legal, right? It's allowed as parody at least, and titles aren't generally copyrightable, IIRC. Song titles, for example, are definately not. I can advertise my singing of "yellow submarine" and sing somethingi you won't recognize at all. Of course, in my case that'd be true regardless of whether I sang the beatles version or my own...

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    6. Re:Trademark confusion by R2.0 · · Score: 1

      "simple solution to typo-squatting...learning to splel."

      Comic GENIUS! Where are my mod ponts....

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    7. Re:Trademark confusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lots of pornos do this already. Titles like "Gilligan's BiLand" or "Saving Ryan's Privates"...

    8. Re:Trademark confusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is no harm being done. If people make a mistake and mistype their intentions at the keyboard, they should go exactly where they typed. Much as I can mistype the captcha text and so not post a Slashdot comment anonymously. Your book example is flawed in that titles cannot be copyrighted and trademarks are the sole propriety of the trademark owner. If the authors of the Da Vinci Code thought another book too similar in content, naming, and design to their own, they (and they alone) could attempt to remedy the matter in a court of law. You "solution" would also risk preventing similarly named websites with criticism of the corporately-owned website from continuing.

      If there is harm being done, it is self-inflicted. The person who mistypes the domain name is the one responsible. No one else.

  36. Perspectives by Comatose51 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Google Inc., which runs the largest ad network on the Internet, is making millions of dollars a year by filling otherwise unused Web sites with ads.

    Google made 2.253 billion USD in one quarter. While the article was vague how many millions it really is, "millions" instead of "tens of millions" or "hundreds of millions" still seems like a drop in the bucket. It goes on to imply that it's quite a bit by quoting Eric Schmidt, CEO of Google:

    Google won't disclose how much revenue it is earning from ads on these types of sites, but chief executive Eric Schmidt said in an interview last week, "It's a lot of money."

    Did he mean that Google makes a lot of money from ads in general or from ads on typo sites? I can't tell because the article doesn't give me the source of that quote. However, I find it doubtful that Schmidt would be so explicit about Google making money off of typos, even if they did.

    In any case, the issue is not as clean-cut as the article implies. Whose responsibility is it to police trademark infringements? Hasn't it always been the holder of the trademark? Google making money off of it does suggest some kind of responsbility on their part as well though. However, Google does provide an avenue for these people to complain and have the affliates delisted from their ad program.

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  37. Obligatory by Fruny · · Score: 5, Funny
    * Typosquatters pay attention: slashdot.eu is not yet taken!
    In the European Union, typosquatter slashdot.eu.
    1. Re:Obligatory by mtenhagen · · Score: 1

      You are wrong.

      Name slashdot
      Status REGISTERED
      Registered 07 April 2006
      Last update 11 April 2006 10:07
      Registrant
      Name Caller Robin
      Organisation Goallover
      Language English
      Address address
      Phone phone
      Fax fax
      Email email
      Registrar technical contacts
      Name Fredrik Sandgren
      Organisation Onwards Sideways Sweden AB
      Language English
      Address Körsbärsvägen 1
      51350 Sparsör
      Sweden
      Phone +46.708808525
      Fax +46.708808525
      Email frsa@yr.se
      Registrar
      Organisation S Consulting
      Nameservers

      ns1.eapps.com
      ns2.eapps.com

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    2. Re:Obligatory by hankwang · · Score: 1

      Hmm, seems that my whois client doesn't know where to ask for EU domains...

    3. Re:Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just think if Russia were to join the EU

  38. I have an even better idea by selfdiscipline · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have an even better idea... let the marketplace provide services for location of commercial websites: say maybe, have a list of words ("key words") that the internet browser could type in at a website, and then that website would facilitate finding the desired website, based on a huge database of known websites.

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    1. Re:I have an even better idea by Firehed · · Score: 1

      Hm... something tells me that Google's done that, too.

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    2. Re:I have an even better idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, it was AOL.

    3. Re:I have an even better idea by Crizp · · Score: 1

      ...wasn't CompuServe first?

    4. Re:I have an even better idea by Alascom · · Score: 1

      Great idea. I found a site that does JUST THAT! Go to http://www.google.com/ and type in 'bist buy'. Right before the first link, you will see:

      Did you mean: best buy

      Which contains a link to the correctly spelled site!

    5. Re:I have an even better idea by sdnoob · · Score: 1

      i can't even begin to count the number of people i know that use google to find everything. they want to go to msn, they google for 'msn'. they want to go to yahoo, they google for 'yahoo'. 9 times of 10 they get where they're going, but that other time.. look out. a shady, spyware or popup infested ad destination is just a click away... it's really sad watching them at the msn home page (the lovely default in windows) and then search for 'google'.

      they have no grasp of the concept of the address bar or how to use it, and you can try, try, try all you want to teach them, but they just go back to googling for things like 'microsoft' and 'itunes' (even with the bloody itunes program installed on their computer).

      if you changed their homepage to something without a search box on it, they'd swear up and down that the internet was broken.

      and of course, these are the people that will click on anything, don't read before clicking, and never have ever seen the phrase 'sponsored links'. they think they got spyware, so they google for spyware, end up clicking on an ad for some scumware and then, whaddyaknow. their internet does break on them anyway.

      i live and die by the backspace key, i type quite fast and don't have the best eyesight in the world; so ocassionally miss a typo before hitting enter to load an address. i absolutely hate typosquatters (squatters in general really. they're the only reason we need more tld's in the first place).

      if it wasn't for good ol' firefox & a few handy extensions (or my beloved debian desktop, which is just a kvm switch away), i would get infested with crap myself. and i see the results first-hand, of people who do (people like your mom and grandparents), as a result of typing in things like goggle.com (http://spywarewarrior.com/viewtopic.php?t=6537), or worse.

      that 'did you mean...' is handy, i use it myself (especially after a little mexican swamp water), but it needs to be more prominent on screen, and for the really common misspellings, perhaps even change the search term automatically by default (with advanced option to disable the autocorrect).

      it sucks that companies are basically held hostage to try to get these similarily spelt domain names just to protect their own corporate identity. while i haven't gone that far myself (not nearly as big as a state famr or bist bye), but i have gotten all the tld's i can get my hands on for my companies' actual domain names. even with cut-rate domain registrations, i cringe every year when they come due again, and my bill is only a few hundred bucks a year. just imagine what the domain registration costs are for one of the big companies that maintains a portfolio of hundreds or more.

  39. Summary didn't make this clear. by moultano · · Score: 1

    Google isn't making the pages itself, it is just serving up the ads. As far as google is concerned, these pages are just like any other customers, except that (as stated in the article) google goes out of its way to remove sites from its ad program if there is a suspicion of trademark infringment.

  40. Bistbuy? by Peyna · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm sorry, but "Bistbuy" is not a "typo," it's a horrible and awful misspelling that a 3 year old wouldn't make.

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    1. Re:Bistbuy? by robertjw · · Score: 1

      What's the difference? Who decides how close is a valid infringement on a copyright? The courts?

      Issues like this are going to be the downfall of our current trademark/patent/copyright/Intellectual Property system. Courts bogged down deciding if bistbuy, bastbuy brstbuy or whatever is a trademark infringement. I'm guessing about every word you can imagine has been part of some trademark and many many domain names could be considered a trademark violation. How can we possibly maintain a system that has to figure out how misspelled a name can be be before it's a trademark infringement?

    2. Re:Bistbuy? by xornor · · Score: 1

      I think you are confusing the difference between a typo and a misspelling.

    3. Re:Bistbuy? by jm1234567890 · · Score: 1

      No, it is acctually a common type of typo known as a "mirror typo". You will notice that "e" and "i" are on the opposite side of the keyboard.

  41. is it really google? by domeng24ph · · Score: 1

    could these be typosquatters that try to earn money by putting in google adsense and not google directly? has the author of the article checked the "ownership" of those domains?

    1. Re:is it really google? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
  42. Google isn't putting up the sites . . by moultano · · Score: 1

    They are just serving them ads.

    Answer me that question once you go to a drugstore on Sunday morning, and you're tying to get rid of that hangover before doing your Sunday church appearance. With a splitting headache, then go to the pain relief isle, but B4Y3R aspirin, that looks just like BAYER aspirin minus the chemicals that relieve pain. But, you forgive the company because its now owned by Google and they owe it to their stockholders to put such products on the shelf.

    Allow me to fix your analogy. The company printing the labels on the fraudulent bottles is now owned by Google. Saying that they are culpable in all of this seems like quite a bit of a stretch.

    1. Re:Google isn't putting up the sites . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Umm...Google is EVIL in regards to this. When you sign up for adsense, they make a BIG stink over you having legitimate content. They claim to check your sites. Yes, once approved you can add to any number of sites...but they have all this RULES regarding where and how ads can be placed. They tell operators of legitimate sites that ads cant be placed on pages that showup when you log out. Yet, a spam scrapper squatting site is OK. This IS evil. Greed generally leads to being evil. There is no way they DONT know about this. You better believe if a label printing company WILLFULLY AND KNOWLEDGEABLY participate in such a scam that they would be held accountable as well.

      Google isn't 'good'. They want there cash and via adsense they are supporting cybersquatters and that is disgusting and evil.

    2. Re:Google isn't putting up the sites . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In response to your analogy of google only selling the labels on the bottle... Your analogy is flawed because in this case the only product is the label. The only purpose of the site is serving ads through Google.

      Now you say "well Google isnt setting up these sites". No, in fact theyre doing worse. Theyve found a way to outsource it to the masses by funding the people who setup these sites. In effect paying them to do so and encouraging them setup more sites than Google ever could by itself.

    3. Re:Google isn't putting up the sites . . by logicnazi · · Score: 1

      Uhh cybersquatting is different than typo squatting. Cybersquatting is about buying up domain names that are the names of legitimate companies or their products and then demanding the company buy the name off of them.

      Typo squatting is about taking domains that are just typos and serving ads from them.

      Since responsible typo squatters actually help me realize faster I typed things in wrong I find they provide a service, especially if they link to the correctly spelled site.

      If anything it would be evil not to let responsible typo squatters use google ads as this would just encourage these squatters to use more annoying ads and remove any benefit for being a responsible typo squatter.

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  43. Another Example by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  44. oops! missed one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    googlr.com redirects to google
    googlw.com redirects to google
    gppgle.com redirects to google
    foofle.com redirects to google

    hoohle.com:

    What you need, when you need it. Hoohle provides all you need in the way of travel, entertainment, real estate listings, and especially adult entertainment. Specializes in Female ejaculation, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Hidden Cameras.

    1. Re:oops! missed one by user24 · · Score: 1

      a few 'typos' that redirect to google:
      www.thedinnerpartynetwork.com
      www.titanium-spork.com
      www.robot-dinosaur.com

      find more at
      http://www.domaintools.com/reverse-ip/?ip=66.102.7 .99&hostname=www.google.com&normal_search=IP+Searc h (bugmenot^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H member login required)

    2. Re:oops! missed one by belg4mit · · Score: 1

      Weird, because I have a Ti spork. It's great, you can even
      cook with it; because of the low thermal conductivity you don't burn yourself.

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  45. idiot by ccordero · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    what kind of idiot types BistBuy.com

    1. Re:idiot by c0l0 · · Score: 1

      You can grasp the irony in what you just typed, right? ;)

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  46. oh really? by v1 · · Score: 1

    In many instances, these ad-filled pages appear when users mistype an Internet address, such as BistBuy.com.

    "bistbuy.com" does not resolve. (or did we slashdot them? THAT would be justice) Appears to be parked but not assigned by verisign?

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  47. It's an analogy for the story. by TCQuad · · Score: 1

    Nothing appears to link bistbuy.com (if it ever was a valid destination) to Google.

    It's doubtful anything would. Bist sounds like Best, but it's highly unlikely to be a typo (the keys are too far apart). It's really talking about sites like Nest Buy or Beat Buy.

    1. Re:It's an analogy for the story. by logicnazi · · Score: 1

      As someone on digg pointed out bist buy is what happens if you use the wrong hand to type the e in best, same finger and position just different hand.

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    2. Re:It's an analogy for the story. by jbash · · Score: 1
      Bist sounds like Best, but it's highly unlikely to be a typo (the keys are too far apart)

      On the Dvorak keyboard, which a lot of typosquatters target, the i and e are very close together. (They're at the d and g positions of the Qwerty keyboard.)

  48. WP article has antigoogle bias by mapkinase · · Score: 0, Troll
    I have skimmed through the article and "bias" is written in red:
    The Post, using a software tool created by the Microsoft Research division, found hundreds of active Web sites showing Google ads at addresses that appear to be misspelled variations of well-known company names, known as "typo-domains." Their owners are known as "typosquatters."


    My opinion: if Verizon does not want Virizon.com to show google ads, it should pay $50 or whatever it costs for registration and type in 2 lines of HTML code into index.html file to redirect.
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    1. Re:WP article has antigoogle bias by xmas2003 · · Score: 1

      I thought I read recently where Microsoft announced some anti-phishing tool that flagged slight mis-spellings of domain names (?)

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  49. Oopsie. by TCQuad · · Score: 1

    Beat Buy. Sorry. Forgot the HREF part.

  50. clap clap great english by B0red+At+W0rk · · Score: 0

    "misspelled domain name names" What's a domain name name?

  51. In hex? hex? by mustafap · · Score: 1

    Youngster. It should be in binary.

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    1. Re:In hex? hex? by dnoyeb · · Score: 1

      Don't you mean octal?

  52. so by panic911 · · Score: 1

    i dont see anything wrong with what theyre doing. these people have these domains anyway, if google can make an extra million or more with it, then they have plenty of reason to allow domain squaters to use their ad service. these pages would probably exist still without the ads, so who cares.

  53. Cluttering the internet? by siwelwerd · · Score: 1

    This new form of advertising is turning into a booming business that some say is cluttering the Internet and could be violating trademark rules. How on earth do you "clutter the internet"? It's not like there is a fixed amount of space. Interestingly enough, gogle.com, gooogle.com, and goolge.com all redirect to Google.

    1. Re:Cluttering the internet? by thealsir · · Score: 1

      but gooooogle.com does not. Google is at least partially responsible for this, how could they not forsee that this would happen if they indirectly encouraged it? Having to regsiter tons of domain names for all the possible combinations of mis/psuedo spellings will have you sitting there forever.

      In a way, DNS should be done away with because of this. People should be able to type in "Microsoft Corporation" in the go bar, and without a third party service such as google I'm Feeling Lucky, go straight to the microsoft homepage. No ifs, ands or any other such bullshit. It's easy to claim that your micr0s0ft.com is totally different from microsoft.com, but try telling a court that Micr0s0ft corporation is not an almost complete violation of Microsoft Corporation's trademarks.

      UNICODE web addresses with full text and spaces and everything. Eliminate the ".com." I don't need to have a sign saying "chipotle.com" to know that the chipotle down the street is a restraunt. Similarly, the web should have names that are chimp friendly as well.

      Another idea: In addition to path, keyword paths. Instead of typing the following:

      http://www.microsoft.com/office/update

      The following can bring one to the same page:

      Microsoft Corporation: Office Update

      And comes to the mind of the non-geek much more quickly. An auto-complete function could list subcategories in real time under the typed keywords to assist users further.

      That's just some rambling, but really a way to kill two or more birds with one e-stone.

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    2. Re:Cluttering the internet? by agent_no.82 · · Score: 1

      Clutter the internet?
      Well, most of these pages have a negative value. They're not worth the 15kB they were transfered on.

  54. Two points: by thepotoo · · Score: 2, Interesting
    #1: They used bistbuy.com as a hypothetical example, so the millions of slashdotters trying to go there wouldn't make google revenue.

    #2: Thanks to you posting on /. to inform everyone about this, some troll will have registered the site to go to goatse.

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  55. Damn diagonal kids! by MourningBlade · · Score: 3, Funny

    In further news, mathematicians allege The Count is cluttering up the domain of natural numbers.

    "It's a travesty, I tell you! One? Two? Three? Where does it all stop? Pretty soon there'll be none left at all!"

    The Count recently purchased 9111 and 4040 - "numosquatting" two popular numbers. Numosquatting is a technique of buying numbers near or around more famous numbers, so that people who mistype the intended number get the "numosquatted" number instead.

    When asked for comment, The Count said "There are a lot of numbers out there. So many I cannot even count them! Me! Oh, but let me try: one! two! three! four!"

    Several hours later, The Count was reached again for comment. "Anyways, the point is that there are a lot of numbers out there. These whiny people wouldn't be happy even if we went over to the Real numbers. I mean, let's say I buy 405, right? They'll say it's 'too close to 404!' - look, there's a whole lot of numbers in between! But no, that's their special number and they can't have anything even infinitely far away from it."

    "Look, if they want to make it to where no one can have any number near their special number, they should buy those numbers up too - they're asking for their single-number purchase to be equal to ten, a hundred, a million of mine!" continued The Count, "A hundred million! A billion! Ten billion! One hundred billion!" At which point this reporter's cell phone died.

    When asked for rebuttal, the owner of 404 stated "that just, like, your opinion, man."

    1. Re:Damn diagonal kids! by urbaer · · Score: 1

      When asked for rebuttal, the owner of 404 stated "that just, like, your opinion, man."
      401 refused to comment, although cries could be heard of "Who are you? I don't know you!"
      307 pointed to someone else...
      Eh, I've probably got this wrong... they were probably just impersonating the numbers.

  56. Breaking news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    The sad part is that this made the morning post long before it was slashdotted.

  57. Bullshit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I buy a domain name, I can put whatever expressive content I want there. I can put a business site where you make purchases. I can put a business site where I have a list of advertising for other businesses. I can put my horrible beat poetry there if I choose. It is not wasting your time if you mistyped the domain name you wished to go to. In fact, you are wasting my time, because you did not intend to go to my site. And you are the one who wasted your own time: you mistyped the domain name not me. So stop trying to tell me what I can put on my website.

    A trademark owner is free to sue any website domain name holder they want to if they believe infringement is taking place. No one is stopping the trademark owner from doing this. In fact, I believe they are obligated to "defend" their mark from similar users who are causing confusion in the marketplace. So, if you mistype a domain name and end up somewhere you did not intend and that somewhere is very similar to a trademark name, you also can blame the trademark owner for not defending their mark. However, you still are the one who mistyped the name. So, I doubt you could get damages.

    I wish I could get damages for the people who mistype a bank's phone number and get my house instead. Of course, people never take personal responsibility for the mistakes they make. They want to blame other people.

    And they like to read newspaper articles that back up their bias.

  58. AOL by Aphoric · · Score: 0

    File a patent and sue AOL

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  59. Blocking utilities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    The problem with typesquatting is that to stop it you would need a very sophisticated approach. Simply using the Adblock Firefox extension will allow you to block a few sites, using regular expressions like: /^[a-z]+:\/\/[^\/]*\.information\.com.*/ or /^[a-z]+:\/\/[^\/]*\.linkz\.com.*/ (curtosy of a small list I found).

    So DNS doesn't help at all. This means we should probably use content based filtering. And I mean probably, I propose: bayesian spam filtering for websites! I havn't got the time to write the plugin for Firefox, but I would be willing to run it. Or, maybe it would be better to write an extension to the squid proxy?

  60. What's -really- funny is actually... by Animaether · · Score: 1

    ...that the reason they don't allow AdSense on parked domains, is that they have a special ad program for that: http://www.google.com/domainpark/

    So you see.. it's not that it's not allowed per se, it's just that they have very specific rules for parked domains, and you'll have to go through -that- program instead of the general AdSense program.

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    Back on topic: I don't see why Google is getting blamed in this. A typosquatter registers a domain, places ads on it (by whoever, in this case: Google), and not the typosquatter but the ad company is at fault? Riiight. The only way anybody could attempt to argue that would be "if ad companies didn't allow it, typosquatting wouldn't be as lucrative, and less typosquatter domains would exist" - except that if Google (and other reputable ad companies) doesn't do it, one of the many porn kings will. If I -am- going to make a typo, I'd rather be hit with google ads than porn ads (which tend to come in the form of popups, popunders, flash overlays) and attempts to install Spyware Flavor X through Z.

    1. Re:What's -really- funny is actually... by grazzy · · Score: 1

      You're right. However, they're cooperating with Sedo, which is in my opinion one of the worst companies* operating online today in terms of moral and etic standards. Sedo are allowed to put adsense on _any_ parked domain they have access to.

      And why is Sedo evil? Have you for the last five years tried to register "that great" name for your project only to find out it was taken and pointed to a ad-ridden page? Congratulations, you know what I'm talking about.

      They're feasting of peoples ideas and profiting on unfair competition. Sure, I'm 25, I should have been wise enough to invest 50% of my salary back during the it-boom, but still, I didn't and I truly feel sorry for the comming generations that'll have to make due with domains like "www.company-1-2-3-in-boston.com".

      * I use Sedo to profit myself by selling websites. That's how much I care about ideals.

  61. Nothing wrong with "typosquatters" by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As long as typesquatters do not have an really simialr page to the original, or a porn site, I don't see anything wrong with typesquatting at all. How can you call it "cluttering the internet" when no-one sees it except by mistake? Let these typosquatters spend money registering a doamin that almost no-one will see...

    I have to believe typosquatting has got less profitable since browsers started trying to complete what you type.

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    1. Re:Nothing wrong with "typosquatters" by Odocoileus · · Score: 1
      As long as typesquatters do not have an really simialr page to the original, or a porn site, I don't see anything wrong with typesquatting at all. How can you call it "cluttering the internet" when no-one sees it except by mistake? Let these typosquatters spend money registering a doamin that almost no-one will see...
      I do not understand the problem either. I am suprised at the number of people complaining about this. Suddenly the freedom lovers want to be the oppresors.
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    2. Re:Nothing wrong with "typosquatters" by kryptkpr · · Score: 1

      I do not understand the problem either. I am suprised at the number of people complaining about this. Suddenly the freedom lovers want to be the oppresors.

      I think the real issue here is the general ill will that a lot of legitimate webmasters have been feeling from the Google advertising program.

      Many of these webmasters complain that their accounts are unexpectedly terminated citing TOS violations (usually 'click fraud'). For some reason, the details of these violations can never be disclosed to the webmaster.

      At the same time that these people (who are really trying to run sites with meaning content and contribute to the internet) are being booted off, Google is allowing these blatant Ad Farms (which ARE against the TOS) continue.

      These sites have no real content what-so-ever and are computer generated. They serve no real purpose on the internet, other then raking in money hand over fist to the people who are abusing the Adsense program.

      On the surface, Adsense seems intended to allow the common webmaster to make a few bucks to cover his hosting. What these people are angry about, is that Adsense is being terribly abused and Google seems to be not only complacent, but fascilitating that abuse.

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  62. Squatters by Decimal · · Score: 3, Informative

    Personally, I've been wondering why Google hasn't taken a bite out of squatters that sit on the obvious name of it's own services. Take a wander over to googlenews.com or googlecalendar.com.

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    1. Re:Squatters by tidokoro · · Score: 1

      I believe it's part of Google's terms of service for AdWords that your domain name cannot have the term Google in it.

      I presume this applies only to such websites NOT owned by Google. :)

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  63. Yes, the solution is also provided by Google. by twitter · · Score: 1
    Has anybody thought to add a feature to firefox (or maybe an extension) whereby if a user misspells a domain name, it gives the option to correct the spelling?

    The WP article is a complete troll. Google does more to help people find sites than any other search engine. Only a person with a crippled browser who also hates Google would try to find any site by typing the name as a URL anymore. Google also helps a lot of small sites earn money. Blaming them for the actions of dishonest people who take advantage of that money is stupid. You might as well blame Google when people defeat their search algorithms by google bombing and all of the terrible content on the internet you might run into by a poorly defined search criteria.

    Most browsers have a goolge search bar. Some also have a dictionary.

    A google search for "Bist Buy" returns exactly what you would want. The first thing displayed is the official Best Buy site and the second is a warning link, "Did you mean: best buy ," which directs the user to the legitimate site.

    It might be nice to embed that kind of service into the browser itself, but it's probably impractical. Google gets the right answer by constantly combing the entire internet and storing information on about half a million computers. Disambiguation is what search engines are all about, so why bother?

    Typo-squatters and DNS registrars are to blame for typo-squatting. DNS registrars should be able to do a google search as easily as I did. They might also watch out for abuse. The problem is that some of them are active parts of the problem. They buy and sell names to the highest bidder and steal names when they can. Blaming Google makes about as much sense as blaming any other advertiser or the companies that pay for web advertisements, or the whole internet in the first place.

    I've seen this story before and wish it would die. I would not be surprised if it was part of a M$ smear campaign designed to reduce Google's ad revenue and search engine market share. Google's not doing anything wrong and is one of the few advertising companies that does not suck life.

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    1. Re:Yes, the solution is also provided by Google. by ygslash · · Score: 1
      Google does more to help people find sites than any other search engine. Only a person with a crippled browser who also hates Google would try to find any site by typing the name as a URL anymore...

      A google search for "Bist Buy" returns exactly what you would want. The first thing displayed is the official Best Buy site and the second is a warning link, "Did you mean: best buy ," which directs the user to the legitimate site.

      Also, there is Google Suggest. I don't think I have hit a single typosquatter since I started using it.

    2. Re:Yes, the solution is also provided by Google. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I would not be surprised if it was part of a M$ smear campaign

      Perhaps you would like to provide some proof of this? Otherwise I'd suggest you keep your conspiracy theories to yourself. You've been down this road before and it didn't go well then, either.

    3. Re:Yes, the solution is also provided by Google. by willyhill · · Score: 0
      I would not be surprised if it was part of a M$ smear campaign

      Perhaps you would like to provide some proof of this? Otherwise I'd suggest you keep your conspiracy theories to yourself. You've been down this road before and it didn't go well then, either.

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  64. It hurts Google. by twitter · · Score: 1
    Google now aims (moreso at least) to generate profit for its owners. But doing something that makes money for a company does not make it evil? Who does this hurt?

    Blaming Google for what other people do hurts Google. The article is a troll.

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  65. Worst of all... by evilviper · · Score: 1

    I think that's only part of the Google annoyances.

    Many of the text ad-boxes they provide in their search results, now point to similar sites, which have NO content at all, except google ad-sense ads, based on the search terms you used to get there.

    It's a bit like a Google.com infinite loop. You except the ads to be relevant, instead you get a link to more Google ads that should be relevant, but might actually be ANOTHER ad-sense click-through site.

    This really is going to be the downfall of Google's much heralded text ads. They haven't shown any interest in fixing it when I contacted them about a few specific instances, so I generally just don't expect Google ads to be worthwile anymore. I think they've given up on their ingenious ad-placement, and are just going for whatever can bring in a few more bucks right now.

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  66. How does it serve the market? by patentapplicator · · Score: 1

    Since there is no limit on the prices that URLsquatters can charge those of us who dream one day of having our own URL and/or IPV6 Addy. We have to ask ourselves if what Google is doing will, increase the prices that URLsquatters charge for what they are sitting on, or decrease the prices? Will it increase the number of URLs that are squatted upon; in the hopes that they will one day become profitable sideroads to bannerland? Will it increase the amount of money being brought into the internet community, in much the way that Vonnegut's Mookey Coke signs hoped to entice otherwise thirstless drinkers? My guess is that it will increase the profitability of large squatters, increase number of URLs that are owned for speculative purposes, increase the prices the do or can charge, and entice others into spending more for various reasons. So if you've got it, get some more, and go again. I like playing the race car in monopoly.

  67. New Meme by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. Put on tin foil cap.
    2. Crank paranoia to maximum.
    3. Make wild, inacurate claims and leaps of logic that even Evel Knievel would blanch at.
    4. Blame Google.
    5. Get Zonk to notice.
    6. ????
    7. Slashdot!

  68. What's Wrong With Responsible Typo Squating? by logicnazi · · Score: 1

    We all have issues with those typo sites that have 80 popups and run annoying javascript. But the regular run of the mill typo site that has a bunch of text/visual ads and looks nothing like the regular site really just provides a service. It takes a lot longer for firefox to determine that the domain can't be looked up than it does to display the typo site and this means I get to correct my mistake even faster.

    Some typo sites even link to the real site in which case they are clearly providing a service. Just because they make some money on it doesn't make them evil. I would like it if all typo sites did this but even if they don't they are hardly a bad thing.

    Typo squating is the internet equivalent of locating your store next to some high profile high traffic store. Sure, if you put your billboard or store next to walmart because you know lots of people are going to go there you are in some sense profiting from walmart's consumer brand but so what? In the physical world we recognize that it is a benefit to consumers to allow advertisements and stores next to popular stores (that way people have more choices and there is more competition) I don't see any difference in the internet world.

    We would all recognize that a company which complained about it's competitors building a store nearby and profiting from their name brand was just being excessive and greedy I don't see any reason to think it is different in the internet world

    Also the article (assuming it is the one linked from digg) reads like a fucking yahoo PR release. It lacks any attempt at balance as it doesn't even try to find anyone who doesn't think typo squatting is the internet equivalent of selling babies.

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  69. Fuzzy logic by athmanb · · Score: 1

    Likeliness of misspelling defined by:
    - Ratio of popularity (on Alexa or whatever) of the domain the user typed in and the most likely misspelled version
    - "Typographical distance" (a word i just invented, just use a metric that considers most of the popular types of typos, switched letters, neighboring keys etc) of the domain the user typed in to its most likely real spelling

    If the likeliness is higher than 99% redirect straight to the real site, if its 50-99% display a question page ("You typed in slahsdot.org. Didn't you want to go to slashdot.org?") if it's below 50% just let the user to go what he typed in. Remember the answers the user gave to the selection page and use it to judge future typos.

  70. troll? by RyatNrrd · · Score: 1

    Surely this is not a troll! Google's Do No Evil motto is common knowledge!

  71. IllegalMonopoly.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh, the irony in IllegalMonopoly.com.

  72. /. Effect - Graphically by ilctoh · · Score: 1
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  73. Don't determine legitimacy, just the lack thereof by RareButSeriousSideEf · · Score: 1
    If there was a FireFox extension or DNS filter service with user-tweakable lists of domain types to avoid - or parked domains, or domains possessing whatever other qualitative attribute happens to cheese someone off - that'd satisfy me. I think the AdBlock Filterset Updater extension (https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1136/) has the platform most suited to grow somethig like that on.

    Unfortunately, the only offering I've seen on this front so far is the Typo-Patrol utility from MS... http://research.microsoft.com/Typo-Patrol/. What I really want, though, is a *server side* option to remove domains from my search results if they meet certain criteria of my choosing. Google personalized has taken a step in this direction, but it falls far short of what's needed IMHO.

  74. I don't know which is funnier by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The people defending Google here,

    Or the ones attacking those pointing out just how 'evil' google's business practices and ethics are.

    Yeah, the highschool kiddies are out in force today!

    -anon cause you all know the kids will be falling all over themselves to mark this flamebait/troll

  75. Don't go there! by RecycledElectrons · · Score: 1

    As soon as you say that some sites are not allowed as "type-oh" sites, you will prevent anyone who is not a big company from owning a domain name. Don't go there!

    Andy Out!

  76. Mod parent up! by Bluephonic · · Score: 1

    Seriously, this changes the story completely.

  77. Mod Parent UP!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Calling this a troll is trolling.

  78. We need a bad karma blocking FF extension! by MikeFM · · Score: 1

    What's annoying is the number of these sites that are ending up indexed in search engines. It's becomming popular for low profit high traffic sites to get either bought out to be turned into a squat site or else the original owners just give up and turn it into the same kind of spam site. It makes it hard for legit users to buy domains they want to put real site's on when every dictionary word, trademarks, obvious combination of words, and typos are all registered to squat sites. It also makes it hard for users to find real sites with real information because often the real sites come up after the squatting sites in search results.

    I hope somebody who's a Firefox coder will get it together and create an extension, similar to Adblock, that lets users blacklist sites and keeps you from going to those sites. It'd be best if, again like Adblock, it can share the blacklist between users. Call it the Bad Karma extension or something like that. If possible go beyond and have it grey out results in popular search engines that go to those site's.

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  79. /.ed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    BistBuy.com is down, must have been slashdoted :)

  80. Dictionary words different matter by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I totally agree that domain squatters - people sitting on a domain that would otrherwise be of use to someone - are evil, and "Something Should Be Done To Stop Them" (tm).

    I am only talking about typo squatters. I can't see where these would come up much with search engines as like Google, they mostly suggest the right spelling if you mess it up.

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  81. Stop squatting now! by MikeFM · · Score: 1

    Possibly, it still seems like I'm encounting both more and more in normal searches. Since Google's terms of use for AdSense specify that pages can not be used primarily for providing these links I think they should start shutting down the companies doing this. Some of the biggest offenders are domain registars. Maybe Google should pull GoDaddy's account for example. Prove that they, Google, aren't part of this spammy plot by doing the right thing. Don't be evil. It shouldn't be hard to determine if most of these sites are squatters because they have almost no content on their sites other than links. By eliminating them it will at least force these companies to add some sort of content to keep making their money.

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  82. the best all time typosquatter whitehouse.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bet the average slashdot reader has a humorous or annoying whitehouse.com versus whitehouse.gov story they could share with the community. I will start off by saying that I used to be a high school teacher and currently teach elementary school. Oh the stories, I could tell that you can already guess the outcome.

    www.whitehouse.gov and www.whitehouse.com

    Your turn?

    1. Re:the best all time typosquatter whitehouse.com by bobbozzo · · Score: 1

      whitehouse.com is no longer a hardcore pron site (but yes, it was in the past)

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  83. Firefox DWIM extension is for you. by symbolset · · Score: 1
    You're looking for the Do What I Mean extention for Firefox, the preemptive redirection engine.

    I tried it, but it didn't work for me. Maybe you'll have better luck.

    IE7 is supposed to have a similar feature, but I wouldn't trust it.

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  84. What a stretch by Zphbeeblbrox · · Score: 1

    Come on.. The title and summary make it sound like Google is actually buying these sites and plastering ads all over them. Google can hardly be responsible for what people use their service for. They don't even necessarily know it's a domain/typo squatting page. Don't put this on Google, put it on the people who own and operate the sites. This is google bashing on a laughable level.

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  85. No wonder by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    Slishdot kicked me out for being a trull.

  86. And this, boys and girls... by geminidomino · · Score: 1

    Is exactly why I tolerate Firefox's crashing (seems to have increased dramatically with 1.5, I noticed).

    Google's ads live in the same adblock list as other scumbags such as doubleclick, falkag, and atdmt. Google wants to act like them, they can be treated like them.

    Ads are ads, and trying to put cookies with them pisses me off even more.

  87. Wow... by Nazo-San · · Score: 1

    WOW this is old news. Everyone has known this for over a year now at least, probably even longer still. Typosquatting isn't all though, let's not forget all those annoying sites that have half a million keywords at the bottom of a page or the people who cheat using blogging to increase the pagerank of a site.

    I think some of you may be interested to check out Google Watch.

  88. Draw a line in the sand. by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    Draw a line in the sand saying this is not who we are, and this is not who we are ever going to be.

    1. Re:Draw a line in the sand. by Arker · · Score: 1

      I think I'd look for a clearer line to draw.

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    2. Re:Draw a line in the sand. by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      In order for lines to become clearer, they must first be drawn.

    3. Re:Draw a line in the sand. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stay on the beach with your stick (and head) in the sand. I'll use a pencil and a ruler for my line.

    4. Re:Draw a line in the sand. by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      And where, perchance, will you draw it so that it's between you and whatever it it that you are against?

  89. Give Them Some Of Their Own Medicine by IHC+Navistar · · Score: 1
    Somebody ought to typosquat on Google's domain name to see if Google can stomach the same crap they are dishing out.

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  90. Ever since.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I registered http://gooooooooooooooooooooooogle.com/ my googlead profits have been up 100%!

  91. Firefox can't find the server at www.bistbuy.com by rs232 · · Score: 1

    Surly it's the companies setting up these mistypo-web-sites that are making the money. I guess it's trash google time again

    "Google apparently doesn't see cheating its customers out of billions of dollars as doing evil,"

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  92. oingo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What I haven't seen anyone mention is google's ownership of parked domains and google paying itself commissions for clicks.