Is they don't have to. According to this, it appears that iPhone will simply be sold SIM free, which is great.
Will be interesting to see how much it costs in the UK and if we are able to take advantage of the $/£ 2:1 exchange rate, meaning we will be looking in the region of only £300 for an iPhone, which would make it attractive to the 'looking for a new iPod' crowd, however I suspect a SIM free iPhone will cost at least double that with resellers offering their own tariff bundles. The lack of third party apps and 3G of course making it nothing more than an expensive toy for the serious Smartphone user crowd who are used to being able to install third party apps that do not require a data connection to work (and considering the extortionate price of some data plans here and lack of EDGE then just as well). I can see T-Mobile with their 'web and walk' package becoming very popular with people who simply want an iPod that does email over GSM.
Personally I'll consider one as my next iPod once they up the storage and/or make it 3G (as perhaps we will see a move to streaming music live from the net and cheaper data by then). If they allow third party apps then I'll have one for sure.
the effect in both cases is that sound quality degrades. Not entirely so - (audio) compression is an old technique that has been around for many years. Used appropriately, it greatly enhances things like drums, bass and vocals by controlling their dynamic range, however lately multi-band compressors are applied as part of the mastering process to the finished track as a whole to squeeze as much sound into the available dynamic range as possible thus keeping as much consistent audio power as possible. Done properly this can yield some improvements for certain styles of music (particularly percussive styles such as dance music) and indeed modern composers and producers factor this in to their creative processes which turns the compressor itself into a creative process.
The technique does however tend to get abused, particularly by TV advert recording engineers.
Perhaps you need a word in the english you are using, which is quite different than the one I wrote in. "use THEM instead of third party apps" means just what it says - the applications loaded, over many third party equivilents (not ALL third arty equivilents) - such as many people being OK with iPhoto over Photoshop for what simple editing and organization they may need. Ah but you said those things in response to my original statement which was what is the point of something like the iPhone if you can't run third party apps? You were defending Apple's (old I must point) position that they were not going to allow third party development by clearly stating that one wouldn't need third party apps on the iPhone because the built in apps did everything you needed, and that Apple had 'managed this with OSX'. You said the web browser could be used for anything it couldn't do, which is fair comment, however simply not realistic at the moment because this makes some assumptions that data is going to be available, reliable, fast enough and affordable wherever the phone is used. Sure not everyone needs Photoshop, but then not everyone will be happy with iPhoto either.
I used an example of something the iPhone doesn't do which is a high end language translation app I have on my Windows Mobile device. You patronised me and said I could use Google language tools. Again I point out that this is not going to be better than an app on the device for several reasons including but not limited to the availability and cost of data charges. Your argument goes that because you personally can get free data or WiFi '80%' of the time where you live, for some reason this means I don't need third party apps.
Thinking of my language translation app, can you think of some particular places where one might use such a thing? I'll tell you - foreign countries and aircraft.
Allow me to summarise some reasons that immediately spring to mind why third party apps on a device like a PDA phone are preferable to online equivalents:
Not everything you could want is available 'online'. Sure new things appear all the time, but how long are they going to last? Do we have service level agreements with these people?
Data services (including WiFi in a number of cases) must be paid for
I have yet to see the data tarrif that was even remotely affordable when used in foreign countries
Data services are not ubiquitous
Data services cannot be used on aircraft, (which is a great time to brush up on language translation incidentally, and often needed if one is reading a foreign language publication)
'Free WiFi' is actually quite hard to find in my experience. Sure you would 'war walk' until you found someone's wireless, however that simply isn't practical (and indeed is actually illegal in many cases).
Privacy. Take a password manager app that I also use on my Windows Mobile device for example - only a fool would trust sensitive passwords to an online app.
Performance. Using an online app is not going to be as fast as something installed on the PDA (unless your app is something that needs huge amounts of data and processing - an online map program is a good example of this - but that is beyond the scope of this argument).
Reliability - ok you are on the train 'typing' something into your online web app, and you go through a tunnel and the connection drops. You just lost your data.
I didn't bother to read the rest of your post Oh I bet you did.
As I said, I didn't say it does everything. I said what it does, it does well, and it has most things people need.
No actually you said, and I quote:
Having preloaded applications that are actually good enough that you want to use them instead of third party apps?
Apple has managed this with OS X, would it be so hard to believe they could manage with the iPhone?
You are clearly saying that Apple has managed to supply OSX preloaded with applications that are 'actually good enough that people want to use them instead of third party apps', meaning that people do not need third party apps. This is so wrong, we may need to invent a new word and re-calibrate the English language.
I said I would like more ability to program
No you didn't...
Read my posts in this thread. Yes I did. In fact I just did there.
I have and you didn't.
But you can get most of them. And how is it "Slow or expensive"? You obviously have not used Google stuff. You obviously have no idea the iPhone has WiFi. Is it any wonder I am patronizing when your posts are full of such basic, glaring errors?
I don't know how better to explain this to someone of your obviously severely limited comprehension capacity other than to point out that actually WiFi is not available everywhere for free, and as for 'most of them' I'm afraid you simply do not know that, because to know that information, you would have to know every possible third party application for a PDA and to also know of every possible web app. Admittedly there are only around six web apps, but still... wait a minute though - are you actually suggesting that you pay for a data plan and don't use it? Isn't that kind of like your 'I don't understand VoIP therefore you don't need it' argument?
You seem to be unaware of unlimited data plans, or (once again) the ability to use WiFi from the iPhone. Why do you think WiFi would be metered? You are too used to old crippled phones with trickle data plans, which indeed are not practical and not meant to be used as series network based devices. That's why I dislike so many other phones I have used.
WiFi is not available everywhere for free. Not everyone can get unlimited data plans. Data service coverage is not possible everywhere. Also I would dearly love to see any data plan that is free and unlimited in a foreign country.
No signal for data is a problem that EDGE addresses, being more widespread than any other standard. But 80% of my day I am around or near a WiFi signal, even if 95% of my days are spent within my home city which has edge coverage everywhere.
Oh well why didn't you say so in the first place?! Obviously as you spend '80% of your day around or near a WiFi signal' then this clearly means that I don't even need a data plan!
You are obviously thinking of a PDA, not a phone. Why you are trying to turn the device into something different is your own problem, but really in the end irrelevant.
The iPhone IS A PDA which also runs phone software that can call to the cellular network.
Exactly right. So why are you talking about a PDA with network access being impractical to use as a network centric device?
And now you are contradicting yourself? Make up your mind.
And for the iPhone they will. Just not right away. And in the meantime, they can eitehr code or connect to a web app to meet a lot of specialized needs (including google translation services).
..but isn't your whole point that people don't need extra apps, even though Apple have said they will allow it?
A planet that's about to get a phone with a web browser that makes such thinking feasable?
People once thought as you do now about desktops.
Yes you see those people are called realists...
Then you'd be just as wrong as you have been so far. When delivering so
You blew away your point of blowing away my point by thinking everyone needs Photoshop.
Actually you are the one making the ridiculous claim by inferring that OSX does everything out of the box. Just because you might not need to do anything else other then check your email and use iPhoto does not mean everybody else doesn't.
The thing that blinds people such as yourself is the constant thought that workarounds are the same as apologies.
No, actually it's the constant 'no matter what the problem is Apple must be right' mentality.
I said I would like more ability to program
No you didn't...
- but I also said, that as a practical matter, much of what you might do with custom apps can also be accomplished through having a real web browser, with full Javascript functionality.
No actually you what you did was patronise me. Secondly you cannot get every app available running in a web browser, and anything that does run in a browser is totally dependant on network infrastructure which is simply not feasible and not to mention slow and expensive.
Are you so technically dense, or filled with hatred, you cannot acknowledge this practical fact of use? It would seem so.
It isn't practical.
In a device that you can only purchase with a plan, and is oriented towards continuous data access, those requirements do not seem onerous to myself.
Have you even USED a PDA / phone? Are you aware of the simple fact that you have to PAY for data? Are you aware of the concept of not being able to get service as you are out of range of signal?
You are obviously thinking of a PDA, not a phone. Why you are trying to turn the device into something different is your own problem, but really in the end irrelevant.
The iPhone IS A PDA which also runs phone software that can call to the cellular network.
Wow, that's not a specialized use or anything.
Imagine it! Someone having specialised needs! Hey wait - maybe there is a market for people with specialised needs, and hey - you know what? Maybe someone could like, write some specialised software that runs on a PDA or SmartPhone and sell it to people like that!
But frankly I wouldn't be surprised if some web based translation engine offered audio conversion as well at some point.
No doubt it will at some point.
If you really need that - then I guess the iPhone is not for you, as it would not be for the other
people unable to understand how to pronounce words.
Really? And why is that as Jobs just announced that iPhone will run third party apps, meaning it's very likely someone will fill the demand for such software (more then likely it will be ported to iPhone from an existing platform). As I say - you are actually arguing for something Apple has just announced they are not doing.
It doesn't work as a blaster either. Another iPhone shortfall! How will it ever survive unless it can peel onions, or act as a minesweeper?
Actually my original post was about Apple saying that it will run third party apps, not that I wanted an imaginary weapon...
So what you'd like to do is buy a phone and an monthy plan and then not use them. Brilliant. What I do for international calls because American phone companies suck, is I have a phone I bought in the UK and then I just buy minutes on it when abroad. A lot less hacky than your solution.
...again with the 'I don't want or understand it therefore nobody does'.
Spoken like someone who has not used many PDA apps! Those are not exactly shining examples of greatness either.
And this statement said by someone who is seriously, and one imagines with a straight face, telling me to use 'Web2.0' apps on a PDA? Which planet are you on please?
If you were considering going back to Windows because additional security made your life difficult Security is one thing. Having an unknown and obscure mechanism in place that stops things working and isn't particularly obvious to new users is extremely frustrating and confusing.
You blew any point you might have had by not choosing to address my point that many applications you might otherwise develop or buy for a PDA can be delivered over the web. Web 2.0. Perhaps you've heard of it? As in... ...as in lets screw our customers for data charges? Plus you blew any point you were going to make by comparing iPhoto to Photoshop below.
So your Apple apology is 'it's ok to not allow third party development on a device because... *drum roll* it has a web browser'? Perhaps you have heard of applications? You know - code that runs on the box and isn't dependant on things like, network infrastructure, service availability, data contracts?
Google language tools. Oh can Google language tools now play back audio samples of the pronunciation of words like the software I have for my Windows Mobile device can? Can they work offline? No doubt you will refer to Google gears, however wouldn't that require third party apps on the phone?
I used language translation as an example of something iPhone doesn't do.
As for a Voip app, I don't know if you knew, but the iPhone is kind of - a Phone! That you have to buy with - A plan! So an exciting feature is that by buying the device you also buy the capability to speak to others, via this "phone" feature. Yeah I don't know if you are aware, but sometimes we people who know there are countries other than the USA travel to them, and we don't like paying through the nose for international roaming, plus we sometimes would like to patch into our Asterisk boxen at our work places and make calls for free.
And of course there are VOIP gateways that will forward VOIP calls to your real phone or initiate a call to you and your desired party - all from that darn web browser again, seemingly out to dismiss any argument you can come up with.
You miss what I said, which is that Apple has managed to cover a lot of useful ground and have good apps already included, I never claimed is was comprehensive for every need. Even your cherry picking of applications does not strickly hold up, as iPhoto is a far better choice for many people than the complex Photoshop. Wait a second. Wasn't Adobe going to also do a Web version of Photoshop? There's that Web thing again! Doesn't Google have a ewb based spreadsheet? Why I think they do. I'm sorry but web apps simply do not cut it in the Real World. Perhaps at some point in the future, but as you appear to be unaware, there are a number of issues preventing this from being feasible for a lot of people - performance, bandwidth and why-the-fuck-do-I-need-an-internet-connection-to-u se-my-computer to name a few.
Well I've seen some Apple critiquing in my time, but yours is only average and uses the same old tactic of verring off on wild tangents and blowing up some small point like it's the end of the earth if Apple cannot deliver feature X on device Y. Do you guys get a script? Can someone please update it? To at least include recent computer history in your meanderings? Well perhaps you might want to read this story again, as your god has mentioned that third party apps will be supported on the iPhone, which is what my original comment was referring to. You have now revealed yourself as the know-nothing pompous zealot that you are by arguing about something Apple isn't doing, and as for tangents, you will actually find it was you who 'verred' off on a tangent.
Having preloaded applications that are actually good enough that you want to use them instead of third party apps?
That is assuming that the included apps will cover every possible use of such a device, and that any third party apps will only be duplicating the built in functionality. I don't care how good a built in photo or map app is, it isn't going to help with language translation or give me the ability to make VoIP calls.
Apple has managed this with OS X, would it be so hard to believe they could manage with the iPhone?
Absolute rubbish. You are suggesting that OSX covers every conceivable function out of the box which is simply untrue. The words 'Photoshop', 'Spreadsheet' and 'Backup' immediately spring to mind.
Sure it's nice to extend functionality,
'Nice'!? I've seen some Apple apologising in my time but to seriously refer to the ability to run third party applications is 'nice' is quite something!
Nice patronising comment there. Seriously, well done. Give yourself a bit pat on the back.
Personally I think he had a valid point - if people were allowed to criticise Scientology, then they would be allowed to criticise all religions, which by their very nature, cannot stand up to criticism.
Seems to be the American Way - if you can't compete, make it illegal for your competition to operate.
Those nasty letters come not from the Corporation but from private enterprises
...those would be enterprises contracted by the BBC to harass people, therefore it is the BBC that is responsible for sending the letters as they are sent on behalf of the BBC. If the BBC did not exist, the letters would stop.
One does not expect the BBC would use actors or news presenters to lick envelopes.
the only people who have anything bad to say about it are license-dodgers who watch it anyway
I do not watch TV and do not have a license (as I do not require one to not watch TV). Regardless, I am constantly harrassed by BBC Licensing to buy a license.
Having said that I would still back them in a war against 'scientology'.
I'm no geneticist, but couldn't they use this to induce a mutation in the DNA of ape embryos and thus breed something akin to what the 'human' mutation would have looked like?
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Only one tiny problem with this theory, and that would be because 'god' doesn't exist.
Does that mean they are violating 200+ Microsoft patents now? ...and lets not forget SCO...
Is they don't have to. According to this, it appears that iPhone will simply be sold SIM free, which is great.
/or make it 3G (as perhaps we will see a move to streaming music live from the net and cheaper data by then). If they allow third party apps then I'll have one for sure.
Will be interesting to see how much it costs in the UK and if we are able to take advantage of the $/£ 2:1 exchange rate, meaning we will be looking in the region of only £300 for an iPhone, which would make it attractive to the 'looking for a new iPod' crowd, however I suspect a SIM free iPhone will cost at least double that with resellers offering their own tariff bundles. The lack of third party apps and 3G of course making it nothing more than an expensive toy for the serious Smartphone user crowd who are used to being able to install third party apps that do not require a data connection to work (and considering the extortionate price of some data plans here and lack of EDGE then just as well). I can see T-Mobile with their 'web and walk' package becoming very popular with people who simply want an iPod that does email over GSM.
Personally I'll consider one as my next iPod once they up the storage and
Perhaps someone relatively recently was simply hunting with exotic antique weapons and ammo?
Quite.
Looks like I'll be sticking with an open platform in the short term at least.
The technique does however tend to get abused, particularly by TV advert recording engineers.
I used an example of something the iPhone doesn't do which is a high end language translation app I have on my Windows Mobile device. You patronised me and said I could use Google language tools. Again I point out that this is not going to be better than an app on the device for several reasons including but not limited to the availability and cost of data charges. Your argument goes that because you personally can get free data or WiFi '80%' of the time where you live, for some reason this means I don't need third party apps.
Thinking of my language translation app, can you think of some particular places where one might use such a thing? I'll tell you - foreign countries and aircraft.
Allow me to summarise some reasons that immediately spring to mind why third party apps on a device like a PDA phone are preferable to online equivalents:
- Not everything you could want is available 'online'. Sure new things appear all the time, but how long are they going to last? Do we have service level agreements with these people?
- Data services (including WiFi in a number of cases) must be paid for
- I have yet to see the data tarrif that was even remotely affordable when used in foreign countries
- Data services are not ubiquitous
- Data services cannot be used on aircraft, (which is a great time to brush up on language translation incidentally, and often needed if one is reading a foreign language publication)
- 'Free WiFi' is actually quite hard to find in my experience. Sure you would 'war walk' until you found someone's wireless, however that simply isn't practical (and indeed is actually illegal in many cases).
- Privacy. Take a password manager app that I also use on my Windows Mobile device for example - only a fool would trust sensitive passwords to an online app.
- Performance. Using an online app is not going to be as fast as something installed on the PDA (unless your app is something that needs huge amounts of data and processing - an online map program is a good example of this - but that is beyond the scope of this argument).
- Reliability - ok you are on the train 'typing' something into your online web app, and you go through a tunnel and the connection drops. You just lost your data.
I didn't bother to read the rest of your post Oh I bet you did.As I said, I didn't say it does everything. I said what it does, it does well, and it has most things people need.
No actually you said, and I quote:
Having preloaded applications that are actually good enough that you want to use them instead of third party apps? Apple has managed this with OS X, would it be so hard to believe they could manage with the iPhone?
You are clearly saying that Apple has managed to supply OSX preloaded with applications that are 'actually good enough that people want to use them instead of third party apps', meaning that people do not need third party apps. This is so wrong, we may need to invent a new word and re-calibrate the English language.
I said I would like more ability to program
No you didn't...
Read my posts in this thread. Yes I did. In fact I just did there.
I have and you didn't.
But you can get most of them. And how is it "Slow or expensive"? You obviously have not used Google stuff. You obviously have no idea the iPhone has WiFi. Is it any wonder I am patronizing when your posts are full of such basic, glaring errors?
I don't know how better to explain this to someone of your obviously severely limited comprehension capacity other than to point out that actually WiFi is not available everywhere for free, and as for 'most of them' I'm afraid you simply do not know that, because to know that information, you would have to know every possible third party application for a PDA and to also know of every possible web app. Admittedly there are only around six web apps, but still... wait a minute though - are you actually suggesting that you pay for a data plan and don't use it? Isn't that kind of like your 'I don't understand VoIP therefore you don't need it' argument?
You seem to be unaware of unlimited data plans, or (once again) the ability to use WiFi from the iPhone. Why do you think WiFi would be metered? You are too used to old crippled phones with trickle data plans, which indeed are not practical and not meant to be used as series network based devices. That's why I dislike so many other phones I have used.
WiFi is not available everywhere for free. Not everyone can get unlimited data plans. Data service coverage is not possible everywhere. Also I would dearly love to see any data plan that is free and unlimited in a foreign country.
No signal for data is a problem that EDGE addresses, being more widespread than any other standard. But 80% of my day I am around or near a WiFi signal, even if 95% of my days are spent within my home city which has edge coverage everywhere.
Oh well why didn't you say so in the first place?! Obviously as you spend '80% of your day around or near a WiFi signal' then this clearly means that I don't even need a data plan!
You are obviously thinking of a PDA, not a phone. Why you are trying to turn the device into something different is your own problem, but really in the end irrelevant.
The iPhone IS A PDA which also runs phone software that can call to the cellular network.
Exactly right. So why are you talking about a PDA with network access being impractical to use as a network centric device?
And now you are contradicting yourself? Make up your mind.
And for the iPhone they will. Just not right away. And in the meantime, they can eitehr code or connect to a web app to meet a lot of specialized needs (including google translation services).
A planet that's about to get a phone with a web browser that makes such thinking feasable?
People once thought as you do now about desktops.
Yes you see those people are called realists...
Then you'd be just as wrong as you have been so far. When delivering so
You blew away your point of blowing away my point by thinking everyone needs Photoshop.
Actually you are the one making the ridiculous claim by inferring that OSX does everything out of the box. Just because you might not need to do anything else other then check your email and use iPhoto does not mean everybody else doesn't.
The thing that blinds people such as yourself is the constant thought that workarounds are the same as apologies.
No, actually it's the constant 'no matter what the problem is Apple must be right' mentality.
I said I would like more ability to program
No you didn't...
- but I also said, that as a practical matter, much of what you might do with custom apps can also be accomplished through having a real web browser, with full Javascript functionality.
No actually you what you did was patronise me. Secondly you cannot get every app available running in a web browser, and anything that does run in a browser is totally dependant on network infrastructure which is simply not feasible and not to mention slow and expensive.
Are you so technically dense, or filled with hatred, you cannot acknowledge this practical fact of use? It would seem so.
It isn't practical.
In a device that you can only purchase with a plan, and is oriented towards continuous data access, those requirements do not seem onerous to myself.
Have you even USED a PDA / phone? Are you aware of the simple fact that you have to PAY for data? Are you aware of the concept of not being able to get service as you are out of range of signal?
You are obviously thinking of a PDA, not a phone. Why you are trying to turn the device into something different is your own problem, but really in the end irrelevant.
The iPhone IS A PDA which also runs phone software that can call to the cellular network.
Wow, that's not a specialized use or anything.
Imagine it! Someone having specialised needs! Hey wait - maybe there is a market for people with specialised needs, and hey - you know what? Maybe someone could like, write some specialised software that runs on a PDA or SmartPhone and sell it to people like that!
But frankly I wouldn't be surprised if some web based translation engine offered audio conversion as well at some point.
No doubt it will at some point.
If you really need that - then I guess the iPhone is not for you, as it would not be for the other people unable to understand how to pronounce words.
Really? And why is that as Jobs just announced that iPhone will run third party apps, meaning it's very likely someone will fill the demand for such software (more then likely it will be ported to iPhone from an existing platform). As I say - you are actually arguing for something Apple has just announced they are not doing.
It doesn't work as a blaster either. Another iPhone shortfall! How will it ever survive unless it can peel onions, or act as a minesweeper?
Actually my original post was about Apple saying that it will run third party apps, not that I wanted an imaginary weapon...
So what you'd like to do is buy a phone and an monthy plan and then not use them. Brilliant. What I do for international calls because American phone companies suck, is I have a phone I bought in the UK and then I just buy minutes on it when abroad. A lot less hacky than your solution.
Spoken like someone who has not used many PDA apps! Those are not exactly shining examples of greatness either.
And this statement said by someone who is seriously, and one imagines with a straight face, telling me to use 'Web2.0' apps on a PDA? Which planet are you on please?
You are mixing worlds here. T
So your Apple apology is 'it's ok to not allow third party development on a device because... *drum roll* it has a web browser'? Perhaps you have heard of applications? You know - code that runs on the box and isn't dependant on things like, network infrastructure, service availability, data contracts? Google language tools. Oh can Google language tools now play back audio samples of the pronunciation of words like the software I have for my Windows Mobile device can? Can they work offline? No doubt you will refer to Google gears, however wouldn't that require third party apps on the phone?
I used language translation as an example of something iPhone doesn't do. As for a Voip app, I don't know if you knew, but the iPhone is kind of - a Phone! That you have to buy with - A plan! So an exciting feature is that by buying the device you also buy the capability to speak to others, via this "phone" feature. Yeah I don't know if you are aware, but sometimes we people who know there are countries other than the USA travel to them, and we don't like paying through the nose for international roaming, plus we sometimes would like to patch into our Asterisk boxen at our work places and make calls for free. And of course there are VOIP gateways that will forward VOIP calls to your real phone or initiate a call to you and your desired party - all from that darn web browser again, seemingly out to dismiss any argument you can come up with. You miss what I said, which is that Apple has managed to cover a lot of useful ground and have good apps already included, I never claimed is was comprehensive for every need. Even your cherry picking of applications does not strickly hold up, as iPhoto is a far better choice for many people than the complex Photoshop. Wait a second. Wasn't Adobe going to also do a Web version of Photoshop? There's that Web thing again! Doesn't Google have a ewb based spreadsheet? Why I think they do. I'm sorry but web apps simply do not cut it in the Real World. Perhaps at some point in the future, but as you appear to be unaware, there are a number of issues preventing this from being feasible for a lot of people - performance, bandwidth and why-the-fuck-do-I-need-an-internet-connection-to-
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Having preloaded applications that are actually good enough that you want to use them instead of third party apps?
That is assuming that the included apps will cover every possible use of such a device, and that any third party apps will only be duplicating the built in functionality. I don't care how good a built in photo or map app is, it isn't going to help with language translation or give me the ability to make VoIP calls.
Apple has managed this with OS X, would it be so hard to believe they could manage with the iPhone?
Absolute rubbish. You are suggesting that OSX covers every conceivable function out of the box which is simply untrue. The words 'Photoshop', 'Spreadsheet' and 'Backup' immediately spring to mind.
Sure it's nice to extend functionality,
'Nice'!? I've seen some Apple apologising in my time but to seriously refer to the ability to run third party applications is 'nice' is quite something!
Steve Jobs revealed at the D Conference that 3rd-party development will be supported on the iPhone
Maybe I'll get one after all then.
What is the point of a portable computer as powerful as the iPhone if it can't run 3rd party apps?
Nice patronising comment there. Seriously, well done. Give yourself a bit pat on the back.
Personally I think he had a valid point - if people were allowed to criticise Scientology, then they would be allowed to criticise all religions, which by their very nature, cannot stand up to criticism.
Seems to be the American Way - if you can't compete, make it illegal for your competition to operate.
...for creating a 'busy work' distraction for the geek students who would normally spend the summer holidays writing this year's worm.
Those nasty letters come not from the Corporation but from private enterprises
...those would be enterprises contracted by the BBC to harass people, therefore it is the BBC that is responsible for sending the letters as they are sent on behalf of the BBC. If the BBC did not exist, the letters would stop.
One does not expect the BBC would use actors or news presenters to lick envelopes.
the only people who have anything bad to say about it are license-dodgers who watch it anyway
I do not watch TV and do not have a license (as I do not require one to not watch TV). Regardless, I am constantly harrassed by BBC Licensing to buy a license.
Having said that I would still back them in a war against 'scientology'.
I'm no geneticist, but couldn't they use this to induce a mutation in the DNA of ape embryos and thus breed something akin to what the 'human' mutation would have looked like?
Seems to me the simple solution is to track the money made from ads rather than the hits. If this happens there will be no incentive to fake hits.
WHAT Linux documentation?
This is apple.slashdot and the usual rules do not apply. Mod points here are to be used to mod down when a comment upsets someone, or is not explicitly positive about Apple or one of it's products.
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Dumbass.