"Mac/Linux and other alternative OS people feel strongly about their Minority OS, and feel deep anger towards the majority OS they feel that culture is pushing them to use."
I think this blogger LOVES Windows. After all, he clearly defines himself by his refusal to use it. I don't think deep anger is a part of this - I think if Windows suddenly vanished he would miss it immediately, and desperately. He fishes for acceptance from other OS snobs by shitting on Windows, and validates himself through it.
After all, it's not like "Splashcast" is gonna turn him into a somebody.
There must be something in the sarcasm that allows it to be differentiated from something that an idiot might be sincere in saying. If you sound like a fool, my first instinct is to think you are a fool.
The original post:
"I don't doubt that they might be speaking the truth, but they could've just put in a five minute reset timer or something. having the unit freeze up is just tacky."
How do I differentiate this from mere ignorance? When I read that, I can't tell he's being sarcastic as opposed to stupid. Since there are LOTS of stupid people, I can't just assume everybody is smart in advance.
If I'm reading about the struggle for equal rights, and I post a message saying, "Well, I just plain don't like black people", anybody who doesn't watch Family Guy has to assume I'm just a racist, rather than a lover of politically incorrect humour, and the owner of terrible comic timing.
"someone give this guy some sarcasm goggles! i guess i did a pretty good job of hiding my dislike of sony reps. next time i'll tag it"
There's a fine line in sarcasm. As it becomes more and more subtle it becomes better and better... until it reaches a point where suddenly it become undistinguishable from the mindset that it is intended to mock, at which point it fails.
I consider myself educated with a Masters in Sarcasm, and I must admit I missed it in your post.
"I don't doubt that they might be speaking the truth, but they could've just put in a five minute reset timer or something. having the unit freeze up is just tacky."
You don't doubt that they might be speaking the truth? Are you serious?
What in heavens name has Sony done to instill such deep trust in you?
There's exactly NO chance that they made their demo product unstable and prone to crashing to keep people from playing it for too long.
On the rare occasion that I actually want to moderate a comment, I never have the mod points. Usually I had them the day before.
You've been modded "Troll" and "Flamebait", and I was hoping to put a +1 in there to keep you above 0. There have been at least a dozen times in the last two years where I have experienced an installation procedure like you've described above.
I can't in good conscience recommend linux to family because that kind of thing is still pretty common. Since I clearly can't recommned Windows either, I've been suggesting my family buy Macs.
"No. Many sites, including IGN, misinterpreted the statement made by Jade. And no, there was never a huge fuss about RSX RAM. What is with these false accusations about the PS3, are you just trying to spread false information, or are you just high?"
If it's misinterpreted, can you please point to the clarification?
When Star Wars Galaxies game out, I had never played an MMORPG before. Several friends of mine purchased it, and I finally caved and bought it.
I signed up, created a brawler, and entered the game. I despised it from the moment I started. I finally got a mission, headed out of town and ran for what seemed an unreasonable amount of time. Finally I met a bug, and it killed me immediately. It happened again shortly after that. This wasn't fun in the least - it was just stupid and boring.
I cancelled my account, deleted the game, and that was that. Much later I would read that the brawler was the worst character in the game. That screams "broken design".
Your brickheaded literalism, in particular, is quite telling of the color that most descriptively represents your state of being. Try to be a little less linear in your thinking, if it's not too much to ask of an inveterate line-tower like yourself.
I'd written a response to this, but deleted it when I realized there's no point in bothering. You're just a self-aggrandizing fool.
So don't force what doesn't come naturally. You'll be much happier if you stick to an OS that suits your personality. And you'll be doing the rest of us a favor, too; you leave Macs to Mac users, and we'll leave beige to you
Good Lord... the history of Apple is painted in beige.
As for the rest of your pointless post, well... you're clearly one of those guys that actually believes those Apple/Mac guys represent the current state of technology. It's probably not even possible to educate you out of your opinion.
That's because the software in your company is poorly designed. Don't shoot me yet, please read on.
I have read on, as requested.
We have large databases running on clusters, with backup database clusters located in separated datacentres. They're running half-mast as hot standbys, continuously being synched, with
We are an industrial company with data streaming in from over 8000 miles of equipment. Anything that stops our systems costs us huge amounts of money, and puts us in regulatory danger, so we simply cannot afford to run without that redundancy.
We have a couple dozen systems ranging from realtime collection of field data to scheduling/predictive crunchers, as well as financial and regulatory ones. We have a huge number of PL/SQL programs that run on-demand, or on a nightly schedule.
A blanket claim that the software is poorly designed is just incorrect. Some companies NEED the kind of horsepower Oracle has to offer. Some don't. We definitely do.
You claimed I said that using Linux is navigating a minefield. My statement involves making architectural choices between competing distros with strengths and weaknesses. Do I have to explain why these statements are different? Do I have to explain as to a child?
And if you've read my past postings and somehow come to the conclusion that I'm pro-Microsoft, I'll just assume you used the same deductive reasoning that led you to misunderstand me this time.
Yep, these ARE untruths and have been for MANY years. I have had an easier time installing many versions of Linux on my hardware than installing Windows. Is Linux perfect? Nope. Is Windows perfect? Hell no...
And BTW using Linux isn't "navigating that minefield" and only a pro-Microsoft FUDSTER would suggest that it is.
You missed the point completely. I'm guessing you were more interested in labelling me pro-Microsoft than in thinking too hard about the points raised.
Since the original post contained its own rebuttals, it was clearly a series of half-truths.
And I never claimed that using Linux is "navigating a minefield". If you go back and reread my post, you'll see that. I'd spell out the difference between your words and mine, but then you wouldn't learn anything.
There was another piece of FUD when it came to support. Ballmer used to say, "Who do you run to when you need support on Linux? Do you run to RedHat, Novell, the guys at OSDL, IBM? It was all FUD but achieved some success at dissuading folks from using Linux...The other untruth was one on installation. While software on some Linux distros can be a pain to install, other distros like Freespire, Linspire and Xandros are so easy to have software installed on. But what you hear is the same rant that software on Linux is difficult to manage...The last untruth:A good number of people I have spoken to seem to think that Linux, is that particular distro they are experimenting with. So when things do not work out, "Linux" is labeled as a non starter! I can confirm that I know Linux distros that will work out of the box o hardware that Microsoft's Windows has trouble even recognizing.
These aren't untruths. They're half-truths, which makes them far more potent than untruths.
Like it or not, these ARE weaknesses, at least in the eyes of many. The whole business of, "Well, this distro sucks but THAT distro is way better" is a very dodgy one for anybody making architectural decisions. Lots of companies stick with Solaris, HP and others because they just aren't interested in navigating that minefield.
Or hopefully they'll migrate instead their existing Oracle installations to MySQL or PostgreSQL or anything that is free software.
I can only speak to the situation at the company I've been with for the last eight years. We're pretty big, and have some large data requirements. There is absolutely zero chance that we will move away from Oracle in the next ten years (at least). The cost to licence, administer, and maintain our Oracle databases is trivial next to the cost of moving.
Other "Oracle shops" where professional acquaintances of mine are working are in a similar situation. The cost to move is MUCH larger than the cost to stay, and Oracle works extremely well.
For us, specifically, PostgreSQL and MySQL are not nearly powerful enough anyway. We really do need the beast.
I keep hearing that "move to an open source product" mantra about databases, but as near as I can tell it only makes sense for relatively trivial, simple systems to do so. It's not that more complex systems can't be built on the open source product - it's that once you're already running, there has to be a very serious gain to be had in switching.
Oh for fuck's sake. You win the slash-fucking-tard PAVLOV award for the first repeat of a tired and nauseatingly overused (and not-even-funny) joke, right on cue.
So where is the joke? Tell this poor slashtard so that I might revel in your brilliance. Last time I checked, Godwin's Law was an honest-to-goodness tradition, one going back at least 15 years.
Go on. Enlighten me.
As far as being "today's slashtard", well... I can only conclude you're angry because you think I'm after your throne.
"I suppose you'd have fit right in in Germany circa WWII."
It's subtle, but I think we might have a new record for the speed of execution of Godwin's Law. From a topic on Warner Brothers and the RIAA to Nazi's in 2 easy steps.
I'm sure many will point out (as two already have) that Groklaw's justified in wallowing in it for the moment.
In truth, I agree. I'd have been less restrained, actually. I pointed it out because it amuses me to see the equivalent of "HAH! SO THERE!" on a site filled with legal jargon.
"And may I please point out that everything Groklaw told you about this case and about SCO and about what would happen eventually is now coming true? [takes a bow] As you can now discern, if you so desire, Groklaw was never biased, as SCO has repeatedly claimed. Groklaw was right. We had no inside track but, as a group, we had the technical and legal knowledge required to call this one accurately, even though at the beginning, we had to stand alone. Some have worried that there would never be justice from the court, as they watched the discovery process drag on and on. I told you it would all work out in the end, didn't I? Now it is, and doesn't it feel good to see some fairness at last?"
Wow! That's some mighty fine self-congratulations! "I told you so" of the highest quality.
"It didn't make a difference, he didn't even know what he wanted,"
Well naturally he didn't. If he knew exactly what he wanted, he'd just order it himself.
I don't have quite the background that some here do (6 years in support followed by 8 years in development), but even early on in my career I knew that "tell me exactly what you want" never, ever works. Even for relatively trivial things.
I'd like to know how you found hayes-incompatible equipment though - that must have taken some work!
Short story: I was working at a company years ago, a VP of development wanted to be able to dial out and use a terminal programs on his PC from our office phone system. I asked him, point blank, tell me exactly what you need. He responded, "I just need to be able to connect to a modem and dial out." (exact words burned into my brain)...So, we bought $20,000 worth of phone equipment that did just that, alowed a PC's modem to be plugged into a wall, and dial out...He came to my office and said, I can't use this system. I asked why? He said the modem banks weren't "hayes compatible." I looked at him, told him his exact words after being asked "exactly" what he needed, and he said (rather annoyed) "well, you should have known I needed "hayes compatible."
So you, the technology expert, bought $20,000 worth of equipment on a one sentence verbal spec... and it's HIS fault?
Isn't this a rather collosal, and unforgiveable, failure on your part?
"And how many of those device had A) a large power draw and B) a strict size limitation C) an expected runtime of 6+ hours? That isn't a trivial set of limitations. Cell phones are comparable in size and power requirements, but they don't have anywhere near the runtime requirements of an iPod. Flash-based MP3 players can run forever on a AAA battery, but with no backlight, hard drive, or MPEG-4 capable DSP....I'm not saying they didn't also take the economics of the situtation into account, but it's silly to pretend that's the only reason for the sealed design and custom battery shape."
If they chose to at design time, to allow for user replacement they could have surrounded the battery internally with a very thin plastic shell, and used a standard access panel design, adding almost no additional size/weight. But there's no strong business case to do so, while there's a VERY strong case for not doing it.
Are you suggesting there are NO pre-existing batteries that would have met the requirement without vendorlock?
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"Mac/Linux and other alternative OS people feel strongly about their Minority OS, and feel deep anger towards the majority OS they feel that culture is pushing them to use."
I think this blogger LOVES Windows. After all, he clearly defines himself by his refusal to use it. I don't think deep anger is a part of this - I think if Windows suddenly vanished he would miss it immediately, and desperately. He fishes for acceptance from other OS snobs by shitting on Windows, and validates himself through it.
After all, it's not like "Splashcast" is gonna turn him into a somebody.
There must be something in the sarcasm that allows it to be differentiated from something that an idiot might be sincere in saying. If you sound like a fool, my first instinct is to think you are a fool.
The original post:
"I don't doubt that they might be speaking the truth, but they could've just put in a five minute reset timer or something. having the unit freeze up is just tacky."
How do I differentiate this from mere ignorance? When I read that, I can't tell he's being sarcastic as opposed to stupid. Since there are LOTS of stupid people, I can't just assume everybody is smart in advance.
If I'm reading about the struggle for equal rights, and I post a message saying, "Well, I just plain don't like black people", anybody who doesn't watch Family Guy has to assume I'm just a racist, rather than a lover of politically incorrect humour, and the owner of terrible comic timing.
"someone give this guy some sarcasm goggles! i guess i did a pretty good job of hiding my dislike of sony reps. next time i'll tag it"
There's a fine line in sarcasm. As it becomes more and more subtle it becomes better and better... until it reaches a point where suddenly it become undistinguishable from the mindset that it is intended to mock, at which point it fails.
I consider myself educated with a Masters in Sarcasm, and I must admit I missed it in your post.
"I don't believe parent got a 5 insightful for this."
I sort of agree (being the poster of the parent). But you have to admit my post is more "insightful" than the grandparent was "informative".
"I don't doubt that they might be speaking the truth, but they could've just put in a five minute reset timer or something. having the unit freeze up is just tacky."
You don't doubt that they might be speaking the truth? Are you serious?
What in heavens name has Sony done to instill such deep trust in you?
There's exactly NO chance that they made their demo product unstable and prone to crashing to keep people from playing it for too long.
On the rare occasion that I actually want to moderate a comment, I never have the mod points. Usually I had them the day before.
You've been modded "Troll" and "Flamebait", and I was hoping to put a +1 in there to keep you above 0. There have been at least a dozen times in the last two years where I have experienced an installation procedure like you've described above.
I can't in good conscience recommend linux to family because that kind of thing is still pretty common. Since I clearly can't recommned Windows either, I've been suggesting my family buy Macs.
"No. Many sites, including IGN, misinterpreted the statement made by Jade. And no, there was never a huge fuss about RSX RAM. What is with these false accusations about the PS3, are you just trying to spread false information, or are you just high?"
If it's misinterpreted, can you please point to the clarification?
Apparently I can't read names properly today.
When Star Wars Galaxies game out, I had never played an MMORPG before. Several friends of mine purchased it, and I finally caved and bought it.
I signed up, created a brawler, and entered the game. I despised it from the moment I started. I finally got a mission, headed out of town and ran for what seemed an unreasonable amount of time. Finally I met a bug, and it killed me immediately. It happened again shortly after that. This wasn't fun in the least - it was just stupid and boring.
I cancelled my account, deleted the game, and that was that. Much later I would read that the brawler was the worst character in the game. That screams "broken design".
Ralph couldn't have ruined it. It was pre-ruined.
Your brickheaded literalism, in particular, is quite telling of the color that most descriptively represents your state of being. Try to be a little less linear in your thinking, if it's not too much to ask of an inveterate line-tower like yourself.
I'd written a response to this, but deleted it when I realized there's no point in bothering. You're just a self-aggrandizing fool.
So don't force what doesn't come naturally. You'll be much happier if you stick to an OS that suits your personality. And you'll be doing the rest of us a favor, too; you leave Macs to Mac users, and we'll leave beige to you
Good Lord... the history of Apple is painted in beige.
As for the rest of your pointless post, well... you're clearly one of those guys that actually believes those Apple/Mac guys represent the current state of technology. It's probably not even possible to educate you out of your opinion.
That's because the software in your company is poorly designed. Don't shoot me yet, please read on.
I have read on, as requested.
We have large databases running on clusters, with backup database clusters located in separated datacentres. They're running half-mast as hot standbys, continuously being synched, with
We are an industrial company with data streaming in from over 8000 miles of equipment. Anything that stops our systems costs us huge amounts of money, and puts us in regulatory danger, so we simply cannot afford to run without that redundancy.
We have a couple dozen systems ranging from realtime collection of field data to scheduling/predictive crunchers, as well as financial and regulatory ones. We have a huge number of PL/SQL programs that run on-demand, or on a nightly schedule.
A blanket claim that the software is poorly designed is just incorrect. Some companies NEED the kind of horsepower Oracle has to offer. Some don't. We definitely do.
You claimed I said that using Linux is navigating a minefield. My statement involves making architectural choices between competing distros with strengths and weaknesses. Do I have to explain why these statements are different? Do I have to explain as to a child?
And if you've read my past postings and somehow come to the conclusion that I'm pro-Microsoft, I'll just assume you used the same deductive reasoning that led you to misunderstand me this time.
Yep, these ARE untruths and have been for MANY years. I have had an easier time installing many versions of Linux on my hardware than installing Windows. Is Linux perfect? Nope. Is Windows perfect? Hell no... And BTW using Linux isn't "navigating that minefield" and only a pro-Microsoft FUDSTER would suggest that it is.
You missed the point completely. I'm guessing you were more interested in labelling me pro-Microsoft than in thinking too hard about the points raised.
Since the original post contained its own rebuttals, it was clearly a series of half-truths.
And I never claimed that using Linux is "navigating a minefield". If you go back and reread my post, you'll see that. I'd spell out the difference between your words and mine, but then you wouldn't learn anything.
There was another piece of FUD when it came to support. Ballmer used to say, "Who do you run to when you need support on Linux? Do you run to RedHat, Novell, the guys at OSDL, IBM? It was all FUD but achieved some success at dissuading folks from using Linux...The other untruth was one on installation. While software on some Linux distros can be a pain to install, other distros like Freespire, Linspire and Xandros are so easy to have software installed on. But what you hear is the same rant that software on Linux is difficult to manage...The last untruth:A good number of people I have spoken to seem to think that Linux, is that particular distro they are experimenting with. So when things do not work out, "Linux" is labeled as a non starter! I can confirm that I know Linux distros that will work out of the box o hardware that Microsoft's Windows has trouble even recognizing.
These aren't untruths. They're half-truths, which makes them far more potent than untruths.
Like it or not, these ARE weaknesses, at least in the eyes of many. The whole business of, "Well, this distro sucks but THAT distro is way better" is a very dodgy one for anybody making architectural decisions. Lots of companies stick with Solaris, HP and others because they just aren't interested in navigating that minefield.
Or hopefully they'll migrate instead their existing Oracle installations to MySQL or PostgreSQL or anything that is free software.
I can only speak to the situation at the company I've been with for the last eight years. We're pretty big, and have some large data requirements. There is absolutely zero chance that we will move away from Oracle in the next ten years (at least). The cost to licence, administer, and maintain our Oracle databases is trivial next to the cost of moving.
Other "Oracle shops" where professional acquaintances of mine are working are in a similar situation. The cost to move is MUCH larger than the cost to stay, and Oracle works extremely well.
For us, specifically, PostgreSQL and MySQL are not nearly powerful enough anyway. We really do need the beast.
I keep hearing that "move to an open source product" mantra about databases, but as near as I can tell it only makes sense for relatively trivial, simple systems to do so. It's not that more complex systems can't be built on the open source product - it's that once you're already running, there has to be a very serious gain to be had in switching.
Oh for fuck's sake. You win the slash-fucking-tard PAVLOV award for the first repeat of a tired and nauseatingly overused (and not-even-funny) joke, right on cue.
So where is the joke? Tell this poor slashtard so that I might revel in your brilliance. Last time I checked, Godwin's Law was an honest-to-goodness tradition, one going back at least 15 years.
Go on. Enlighten me.
As far as being "today's slashtard", well... I can only conclude you're angry because you think I'm after your throne.
"I suppose you'd have fit right in in Germany circa WWII."
It's subtle, but I think we might have a new record for the speed of execution of Godwin's Law. From a topic on Warner Brothers and the RIAA to Nazi's in 2 easy steps.
I'm sure many will point out (as two already have) that Groklaw's justified in wallowing in it for the moment.
In truth, I agree. I'd have been less restrained, actually. I pointed it out because it amuses me to see the equivalent of "HAH! SO THERE!" on a site filled with legal jargon.
With the trend in porn towards the foot-long as standard, I doubt anybody needs a penetration tester.
"And may I please point out that everything Groklaw told you about this case and about SCO and about what would happen eventually is now coming true? [takes a bow] As you can now discern, if you so desire, Groklaw was never biased, as SCO has repeatedly claimed. Groklaw was right. We had no inside track but, as a group, we had the technical and legal knowledge required to call this one accurately, even though at the beginning, we had to stand alone. Some have worried that there would never be justice from the court, as they watched the discovery process drag on and on. I told you it would all work out in the end, didn't I? Now it is, and doesn't it feel good to see some fairness at last?"
Wow! That's some mighty fine self-congratulations! "I told you so" of the highest quality.
"It didn't make a difference, he didn't even know what he wanted,"
Well naturally he didn't. If he knew exactly what he wanted, he'd just order it himself.
I don't have quite the background that some here do (6 years in support followed by 8 years in development), but even early on in my career I knew that "tell me exactly what you want" never, ever works. Even for relatively trivial things.
I'd like to know how you found hayes-incompatible equipment though - that must have taken some work!
Short story: I was working at a company years ago, a VP of development wanted to be able to dial out and use a terminal programs on his PC from our office phone system. I asked him, point blank, tell me exactly what you need. He responded, "I just need to be able to connect to a modem and dial out." (exact words burned into my brain)...So, we bought $20,000 worth of phone equipment that did just that, alowed a PC's modem to be plugged into a wall, and dial out...He came to my office and said, I can't use this system. I asked why? He said the modem banks weren't "hayes compatible." I looked at him, told him his exact words after being asked "exactly" what he needed, and he said (rather annoyed) "well, you should have known I needed "hayes compatible."
So you, the technology expert, bought $20,000 worth of equipment on a one sentence verbal spec... and it's HIS fault?
Isn't this a rather collosal, and unforgiveable, failure on your part?
"The 2% who have VBA mactros and such will need more hand-holding. But it's certain that an upgrade to Vista would cause a lot of grief for them too"
Why is that "certain"? Please let me know.
"And how many of those device had A) a large power draw and B) a strict size limitation C) an expected runtime of 6+ hours? That isn't a trivial set of limitations. Cell phones are comparable in size and power requirements, but they don't have anywhere near the runtime requirements of an iPod. Flash-based MP3 players can run forever on a AAA battery, but with no backlight, hard drive, or MPEG-4 capable DSP....I'm not saying they didn't also take the economics of the situtation into account, but it's silly to pretend that's the only reason for the sealed design and custom battery shape."
If they chose to at design time, to allow for user replacement they could have surrounded the battery internally with a very thin plastic shell, and used a standard access panel design, adding almost no additional size/weight. But there's no strong business case to do so, while there's a VERY strong case for not doing it.
Are you suggesting there are NO pre-existing batteries that would have met the requirement without vendorlock?