First of all, you have no data on what the Chinese Government is planning on including or not including on these new computers, so leaping into conclusions to say they will contain Democracy Right Management systems and be used for propaganda are jumping the gun
Party pooper;-)
Second of all, even if they DID include all that, how long do you figure it'd take some hackers to remove all that stuff from the computers when imported to US?
Joe sixpack isn't a hacker. Remember how popular those free ISPs were that put an advert bar on your PC to pay for their costs?
Free Tibet, then let's talk about basic human rights for the people of China
It's late now, unless you're willing to nuke them in which case Tibet would disappear. Then how would you secure Tibet from the Chinese counterattack? When will the war end? What will you do when Chinese warships permanently blockade Taiwan? What will happen to DRAM and chip prices? What will happen to regional oil imports? How will Russia react (if Cuba nuked Canada, would the US ignore it)?
Wouldn't it be ironic for Americans to have to use Chinese products to remain free?
It's not freedom.
If we adopt Chinese processors and tailor our OS to them, then after we're dependent on their processors they'll put DRM (Democracy Rights Management) in where each time you use your browser an unclosable anti-Capitalist sidebar subwindow appears which gives Chinese propoganda:
"Are you tired of being on welfare? Are you tired of ignorant stupid Managers hiring and firing you whilst you do all the work and they have more money and better cars than you? New-Commohoism fixes that, a mix of Communism and the American Free Market *endorsed by the ACLU (possibly)*. Lobby your Senator now and get a 10% discount off your next operating system, click Print to Print out a voting form which you should precisely duplicate the cross on at your next election if you want such a free society for all. Remember, you are a slave to money, YOU ARE NOT FREE IN AMERICA!"
Nobody would have the power to stop this, and knowing the intelligence of the average American this'll actually happen. At least with Intel if their DRM pisses off Joe sixpack the Government can take heavy action e.g. forcing Intel to kill DRM or treating Intel as "terrorists" and freezing Intel's bank accounts and indibting all Managers under the new Enron laws, embargoing all imports of Intel chips from Taiwan. With Chinese processors you can't do anything apart from nuke China.
I hereby patent the process whereby a person fills in a form marked "Patent Application Form".
Any device, process or method written on any "Patent Application Form" henceforth shall be in breach of this Patent unless a royalty of 50% is paid on the revenue from the device, process or method written on any "Patent Application Form" henceforth forthwith;-)
Ya you can bet there where a bunch of gung ho capitalism fucker at lucent that lost their whole saving as the stock went from 100 dollars to 1 dollar and then got fired when they laid off 30,000 people over 2 years. I bet they aren't so excited about capitalism now
Yup. The Government should "force us" to save for bad times and the future. I got caught up with the dotcom hysteria just like everyone else, "Ad revenues and uhhhhh stuff(???) will make us profit after we float on Nasdaq for $100 million" Everyone *must* pay taxes, so this is force, and these taxes must go towards guaranteeing your welfare and income in future. Hey that sounds like a State pension and permanent Social Security (not the 3 months American trash).
Contrary to popular belief, this just acts as a smoother on the economy, the people will whine about high taxes during the boom time, and during the bad times they will thank God that their taxes pay for a welfare state. This doesn't damage the economy, because if we have a constant boom time, then the tax rate after a few decades will gradually decrease as enough welfare money would have been accumulated. Remember GDP = C+G+bla
Of course we have not even begun to plumb the depths of fun that could be had with RICO laws and other tools that can be used against large criminal conspiracies
Whoa, dude, even most lawyers don't know about RICO laws. Dude, I'm impressed. So, Mr Hotshot lawyer, how can the President be forced to allow the people that have been arrested in the US for being "suspicous muslims" to see their lawyers? Technically from my viewpoint, the cops have kidnapped some muslim people, should they now arrest themselves or what? Does this mean your Constitution is dead? If so, then what's the point of being a lawyer at all? Maybe lawyers will go the same way as the dot bombs?
If $400 is actually worth something to you, you're going to want to spend it on something worthy, like voting for self-determination and freedom.
That's the most stupid idea I've heard, only stupid people would vote in such a system. All intelligent people would calculate that value of my vote in the voting pool = 1/TotalVotes.
In a State with 10 million inhabitants, 2 million of which will "pay to vote" the probability of your vote making a difference = damn small
Therefore only stupid people will vote, and intelligent people will invest this $400 in the lottery which gives better odds.
Are people like that fit to run the country because they're entitled to? Absolutely not! People that ignorant should not be allowed to vote, and ever since we removed all restrictions, this country has turned into a cesspool welfare state -- though we're still not as bad as Europe or Canada
Yeah, let all those IT people who've lost their jobs rot in hell and die. What the hell is wrong with a welfare state? With all these IT people being fired by dumbass MBAs who look out for their own jobs first, Odd Todd is just the loudest voice. All the people with jobs want aggressive capitalism with minimum taxes, and the people without jobs want a welfare state, right now the US is too close to aggressive capitalism.
Right now you might be looking at your high tax bill, but when your boss decides to downsize you due to "Feng Shui kaizen employment strategy", THEN you'll be panicking looking at your welfare credits and hoping to God that you didn't cash in your unemployment insurance.
The police are more organized and equipped than ever before with tear gasses, irritant sprays, stun guns, rubber bullets, water cannons, body armor, etc.
Demonstrators can now be arrested and prosecuted as "domestic terrorists" if they participate in civil disobedience or their actions are deemed a threat to "national security."
Democracy in the medium and long-term is an unstable form of Government and will collapse. The only reason it survives now is because it's been eulogised by Hollywood and Arnold Schwarzenneger et al.
Democracy initially allows people the freedom to do stuff, as time goes on people take advantage by performing criminal acts to get money/whatever, the politicians pass laws (Marijuana) that the people can't change so these criminals are tolerated and nurtured. When the criminals become too powerful, the people all of a sudden want a restrictive Government, their freedoms are curtailed (so what if a police dog smells marijuana in my car, does that really give him the right to search?). In a restrictive democracy the people cannot freely protest against Government (at the WTO protests an unarmed student was SHOT AND KILLED) and so resentment builds until a civil war/coup occurs. Perhaps a corporate oligopoly led by Bill Gates and Linus would be more peaceful in the long term?
My instinct is that this is not illegal. It's unethical, and gives me an uncomfortable feeling somewhere in the pit of my stomach, but not illegal. It also gives me the feeling that they could sell my pr0n browsing history, and credit card data. It could explain the extra SPAM I've been getting with my browser URL being
https://lcll.hotmail.com?login=hAcKoR@hotmail.co m&pass=screwyou&MicrosoftDRMkey=4783643&creditcard =46387326483264&expiry=12/67 yeah, great https NOT
So, if anyone with Micro$oft Windows wants to become President, expect Morpheus to release your lifetime URL history to the press, or blackmail you, yipee!
Well a least these dot coms have finally figured how to make *REAL* money.
Hollywood warned us that the corporations were gonna screw us one day, but did we listen? NOOOOOOOOO. From a point of view of law, a link can alter your URL, some javascript can alter your URL, some Java can alter your URL, etc. It's either legal or illegal to change your URL, we have pop-ups, redirections, META REFRESH, it seems to me that changing URLs happens all the time. IANAL
Have these researchers for a moment stopped to consider that hours spent glued to some machine instead of interacting with ones peers is the cause of "anxieties", "anger", and "aggression"?
Have those other researchers for a moment stopped to consider that hours spent taking orders from tyrannical managers, getting beaten up by idiotic bullies, and having the lifes' work of 10 people totally destroyed by an MBA guy would cause a sane man to commit murder? So either violent computer games have saved thousands of lives, or all IT people are insane.
Back in the day, cavemen killed each other all the time, this was sensible vigilantiism required under a despotic Government system. Violent computer games discourage real-world vigilantiism and thus increase the cohesiveness of a cooperative democratic society.
Have you EVER read a EULA? One of the things that sticks out the most is something to the effect of "We are not responsible for any harm this software causes
In that case, all we need to do is get Saddam to sign a EULA "If the US gets nuked Saddam must pay for all the damage." There, now we don't need a war!
And when I walk into McDonalds there should be a sign saying, "You cannot sue us for any reason, the Bill of Rights and Constitution do not apply in this store"
If the Micro$oft product has an unpatched vulnerability, and your business is harmed as a result of a hAc30R, you can sue Micro$oft for having a crap product, as the Winsock DLLs imply that Micro$oft Windows has an "intended use" of being connected directly to the Internet, and in the course of this intended use your business was harmed.
Yeah, it's good, which is why I say GO HP!!! Screw Micro$oft for all they're worth, then give cyanide pills to the workers that defect over to Micro$oft! When DRM hits I'll be downloading Win98 from Kazaa and buying used hardware. Now I'll need new Win9x hardware drivers when linux is killed by DRM, hmmmmm....
Every time HP releases a solution that specifically favors MS, sometimes at the expense of their customers, speak up and try to change their minds
How many people on/. (except RMS) would take a $1billion check from Micro$oft and burn it instead of running to the Bank? Customers would rather buy cheap Indian software+hardware than HP's stuff, they know this and have planned accordingly, that's all. No corporate conspiracy here, move along now.
I don't hate America, what I do hate is the lack of education there which causes the populace to be completely ignorant about international affairs, which in turn causes the politicians to be ignorant of international affairs (as the legislature represents the people). The kids in India and Japan are doing differential Calculus when they're 8 years old (I kid you not), so naturally the Americans envy and hate the H-1Bs. I know that in India someone that gets an SAT of 1599 is a failure and will become a whino, but someone that gets 1600 (the maximum) *might* get into a good University and then if he's really really good might become a H-1B.
At the end of the day if everybody on/. got a million dollars in exchange for shutting up and letting DMCA and CDBPPTA pass, the/. crowd would change their opinions overnight except for RMS and a few other exceptions.
Democracy works - that's the problem with America. At least don't lie to yourself - if some faceless Ethiopean 10000 miles away is gonna get killed so that you can have an extra $100 tax rebate, you're not gonna care, and you're definitely not gonna heckle your Senator over it. That's why the media self-censors, you don't even *want* to know. Your 1st Amendment and therefore your Constitution died long ago, so America should get off its high horse.
Micro$oft and Hollings will force us to upgrade our Win9x and Win2k by training and paying for hack3rs in Iraq (much like Saudi Arabia funded Al Qaeda). These hackers will release a cross-platform worm which will destroy Win9x and Win2k systems, forcing users to upgrade. Since these operating systems will have been "retired" by Micro$oft, no patch for the vulnerability would be released. WinXP2-DRM would be imperveous to the vulnerability, so all users will upgrade to it with Palladium hardware only. Of course, linux won't run on Palladium hardware, so linux will be destroyed.
And FPGA compatible x86 would not be a very compelling product. You could emulate it in software on another CPU (not involved in the Palladium deal) much faster
What other CPU? in the future AMD and Intel will make only DRM chips, it'll be illegal to import DMCA circumvention CPUs (unless explicitly for embedded), all other CPU companies will be shut down by the DMCA for making circumvention devices.
That leaves us with... Motorola 68000, so are you saying that x86 emulation on a Motorolla 68000 will be faster than an x86 FPGA?
legal precident is set that double-blind blackboxing is a legal method to reverse-engineer a system. The GNU project, if it wanted to, could surely reverse engineer all the opcodes for Palladium
So then Hollings has to put a couple of Supreme Court judges on his expenses sheet, paid by Hollywood, big deal. Unix man and Linux man are just gonna sit on/. and bitch about it, they're not gonna lobby congress unlike Micro$oft - which is why Micro$oft have the money. It'll be real cool to see a Unix admin standing in front of the Supreme court trying to fight against DMCA2, he'll probably sweat and shake himself to death;-)
madman that has used chemical and biological weapons on his own citizenship. Believe what you want, but Saddam Hussein is a VERY dangerous individual. And if you want to keep it in the media realm, I'm sure he's not all that supportive of freedom to watch what you want when you want either
Bwa ha ha! Saddam is ten thousand miles away, at worst he'll sink an aircraft carrier. A worse threat is Scientology, they are INSIDE the United States and in my opinion they're a militant sleeper cell, which is openly growing in the guise of a religious sect. When they're large enough they'll grab a few Senators and do something. At least Hollings is open, and his intentions are transparent (make Hollywood money 'cos they gave me a big cheque), but what are the Senators doing that Scientology supports?
While government and corporations working together against consumers is HIGHLY undesirable, it's not like they are GASSING us
Uhhhh, clearly you are a victim of CNN propoganda, I thought this phenomenon would go away with the advent of the Internet, but apparently people prefer to regard foreign news sites such as Samachar as trash. Even the Internet cannot beat human nature (the people that use it) same as airbags can't beat a teenager driving off a cliff at 100mph.
Well, OK here's a quote from this article, my attempt to stick a crowbar between your eyelids and prise them open just a little so you see a glimpse of the *real* world.
Testimony from Nicaragua highlighted how "development," foreign investment and the debt have been used as tools by the North to control and exploit Southern nations, their natural resources, and their workforce. In addition, the jury heard that between 1980 and 1988 the
US, despite international rulings against such interference, financially propped up the illegal Contra forces and engaged in "low-intensity warfare" by providing them with more than $100 million dollars, thereby contributing to an extensive armed conflict that cost over 50,000 lives and inflicted a high ecological cost. In 1983 oil deposits in Benjamin Zeledon Port were bombed creating huge contamination areas. Moreover Contra forces placed 81, 626 anti-personal mines between 1982 and1989, creating not only a huge danger to local communities but also inhibiting potential local agricultural production.
Testimony from Angola noted that Angola is a resource-rich country being a producer of oil, diamonds and minerals. Alongside this wealth, the country has suffered four wars in the last 40 years, with the last war creating an unprecedented military debt which was illegally financed by governments and multinationals. Today 60 percent of the country's budget goes to service the debt and keep the war machine functioning. Ironically, the G8 countries sold weapons to both sides in the conflict, all the while imposing adjustment policies which left the Angolan people to bear the brunt of both military and economic warfare. The testimony concluded by lamenting that Angola is now considered the worst country for a child to be born in. In the capital city, every 100 metres you'll find a child on the street who is either orphaned or mutilated by one of the landmines financed by the very same countries which house the major creditor institutions.
Illegitimacy of Debt based on the Nature of Contracting Parties, Processes, Terms and Usage
Three sub-categories of illegitimate debt were introduced: debt amassed through fraudulent means and operations such as embezzlement; odious debts; and the illegitimacy of usurious interest rates.
Fraud
Debt incurred through fraud, including fraudulent operations and terms between transnational banks and Southern elites whereby some entrepreneurs or speculators contracted loans and deposited the money in external banks instead of investing in their own countries. Other loans simply disappeared or could not be accounted for. Many times 'private' loans wound up being converted into public loans, placing an unjust burden on the people of the South.
Odious Debts
The legal doctrine of odious debts as part of international law, is understood to be debts contracted for illegitimate purposes by illegitimate parties. This debt becomes odious for the entire population, it is not an obligation of the state, but rather "a regime's debt, a personal debt of the power that has incurred it, consequently it falls with the fall of this power." (Adams, Patricia: 1991) International Financial Institutions (IFIs), transnational banks and Northern governments knowingly provided support for military dictators by propping them up financially and through loose lending restrictions. For example, under the International Convention on the Repression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid, and the UN General Assembly adopted sanctions against the regime and yet, in flagrant violation of these mechanisms, the World Bank and the IMF continued to lend money to the South African regime.
As a result, the people of South Africa are being revictimized by apartheid as they are forced to bear the apartheid regime's unlawful debt. M.P. Giyose of South Africa asserted that, "No foreign loan granted to South Africa during the apartheid years could have been legitimate because the apartheid state was itself illegitimate; and any attempt to claim ignorance of this fact would not be credible. This single circumstance means that no lender would have a valid claim against democratic South Africa for any loans outstanding from the apartheid years."
Usury
The charge of usury and usurious interest rates was introduced as a source of illegitimate debt. The interest payments charged on much of the Southern debt are much higher than normal levels which has led to continuous increases of external debt rather than decreases. In addition, excessive and disproportionate commissions and costs were charged. Between 1985 and 1989 the real long term interest rate in six Northern countries was on average 4.35% compared to the average real rate of interest paid on the external debt by 6 Southern countries which was 16.8% (UNDP 1992)
Evidence from Testimony:
Testimony from Nigeria that had little or no external debt prior to the mid-eighties, attested to how the debt problem was aggravated by mismanagement and wide-scale corruption. Before the military took over power in 1983, Nigeria's external debt was $8.93 billion dollars. By 1985 it had risen dramatically to $19.55 billion and by 1995 to $34.1 billion dollars. The testimony carefully details close to 30 different loans and projects that cannot be accounted for such as: the "Arochukwu-Ohafia Water Scheme, Warri Farm Project" and the "Kaduna bus project" where state officials claim no knowledge of the loan
Now read an article here about the Bhopal accident, and then the company did it again in Australia so the company had to move again, like Kazaa. Here's another article about Shell which gives 20% to Nigeria, and keeps 80% profit (so a barrel of gas costs $20, Nigeria actually gets paid $4 per barrell) and has killed people for money.
Shell has blood on its name in Nigeria. Shell has a drilling operation in Nigeria, and half of the oil produced in Nigeria is produced by Shell. Oil makes up 80% of the government revenue and 90% of Nigeria's exports, so the country is very economically dependent on Shell. For years, the Ogoni people who worked for Shell and lived near the land being drilled witnessed their land and communities being polluted by levels of toxins 700 times higher than emissions allowed in Europe and dealing with Shell-hired Nigerian military forces that prevented them from protesting the exploitation (Shell has officially admitted to this, even!). In the early nineties, the Ogoni people rebelled led by Ken Saro-Wiwa and 8 other Ogoni leaders and succeeded in driving Shell off of 404 square miles of their homeland (power to the people!). However, about 3,000 Ogoni people died and 30,000 were internally displaced in this struggle (estimate from the World Council of Churches), all because of Shell. However, in 1994 the leaders were arrested and in late 1995, after a trial that was considered by many to be a farce, were hanged. Since then the struggle has died out as Shell and the Nigerian military are together keeping strict tabs over the people and the area in order to prevent further uprising and continue with oil operations. This has resulted in fatal military raids on communities, resulting in the death of innocent Ogoni people. Nigeria is run by a military dictator who generally squanders the profits from oil and uses it to fund his military to continue to persecute the Nigerian people. Shell has still not changed their policies in Nigeria despite worldwide protest.
As if Nigeria wasn't enough, Shell is also exploring drilling sites in Peru and Colombia in remote areas inhabited only by the native people of these nations. Finding themselves helpless next to the corporate power of Shell, the people are witnessing their land and way of life being destroyed by the rapid construction of oil drilling sites. Shell obviously does not care for the welfare of the people and their land in its oil endeavors and as Nigeria shows there's no limit to how far they'll take it in order to make profit! So, boycott Shell! For more information, check out CorpWatch, which keeps a keen eye on all shady corporate activity, at www.corpwatch.org and Project Underground, a site dedicated to exposing the exploitation of oil companies and protecting communities from it, at www.moles.org.
Sorry, but there's a good reason why Government heads and Corporate heads don't sleep well at night.
Just get a Transmeta processor and hack the Pentium emulation layer...
If they're still in business, by creating circumventable devices they're breaching the DMCA, they can be swatted like a fly by Hollywood. Then to rub salt in the wound, they can put Stallone into a movie about it - evil corporation tries to steal music like uhhh the Taliban and terrorists, and then gets destroyed by Stallone, who bursts into Transmeta HQ with a Gatling gun, and says, "You took all of our movies away, think you're a wise guy? Mickey Mouse says differrent, eat lead asshole. I'm gonna take our movies back from your evil clutches! Pluto Nash will destroy you"
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Hibernate mode will become Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
If we adopt Chinese processors and tailor our OS to them, then after we're dependent on their processors they'll put DRM (Democracy Rights Management) in where each time you use your browser an unclosable anti-Capitalist sidebar subwindow appears which gives Chinese propoganda:
Nobody would have the power to stop this, and knowing the intelligence of the average American this'll actually happen. At least with Intel if their DRM pisses off Joe sixpack the Government can take heavy action e.g. forcing Intel to kill DRM or treating Intel as "terrorists" and freezing Intel's bank accounts and indibting all Managers under the new Enron laws, embargoing all imports of Intel chips from Taiwan. With Chinese processors you can't do anything apart from nuke China.Any device, process or method written on any "Patent Application Form" henceforth shall be in breach of this Patent unless a royalty of 50% is paid on the revenue from the device, process or method written on any "Patent Application Form" henceforth forthwith ;-)
Contrary to popular belief, this just acts as a smoother on the economy, the people will whine about high taxes during the boom time, and during the bad times they will thank God that their taxes pay for a welfare state. This doesn't damage the economy, because if we have a constant boom time, then the tax rate after a few decades will gradually decrease as enough welfare money would have been accumulated. Remember GDP = C+G+bla
In a State with 10 million inhabitants, 2 million of which will "pay to vote" the probability of your vote making a difference = damn small
Therefore only stupid people will vote, and intelligent people will invest this $400 in the lottery which gives better odds.
Right now you might be looking at your high tax bill, but when your boss decides to downsize you due to "Feng Shui kaizen employment strategy", THEN you'll be panicking looking at your welfare credits and hoping to God that you didn't cash in your unemployment insurance.
Democracy initially allows people the freedom to do stuff, as time goes on people take advantage by performing criminal acts to get money/whatever, the politicians pass laws (Marijuana) that the people can't change so these criminals are tolerated and nurtured. When the criminals become too powerful, the people all of a sudden want a restrictive Government, their freedoms are curtailed (so what if a police dog smells marijuana in my car, does that really give him the right to search?). In a restrictive democracy the people cannot freely protest against Government (at the WTO protests an unarmed student was SHOT AND KILLED) and so resentment builds until a civil war/coup occurs. Perhaps a corporate oligopoly led by Bill Gates and Linus would be more peaceful in the long term?
https://lcll.hotmail.com?login=hAcKoR@hotmail.c
So, if anyone with Micro$oft Windows wants to become President, expect Morpheus to release your lifetime URL history to the press, or blackmail you, yipee!
Well a least these dot coms have finally figured how to make *REAL* money.
Hollywood warned us that the corporations were gonna screw us one day, but did we listen? NOOOOOOOOO. From a point of view of law, a link can alter your URL, some javascript can alter your URL, some Java can alter your URL, etc. It's either legal or illegal to change your URL, we have pop-ups, redirections, META REFRESH, it seems to me that changing URLs happens all the time. IANAL
Why doesn't Norton Antivirus do this to credit Symantec? Can Micro$oft do this if I buy products using their operating system? Hmmmm....
Back in the day, cavemen killed each other all the time, this was sensible vigilantiism required under a despotic Government system. Violent computer games discourage real-world vigilantiism and thus increase the cohesiveness of a cooperative democratic society.
And when I walk into McDonalds there should be a sign saying, "You cannot sue us for any reason, the Bill of Rights and Constitution do not apply in this store"
IANAL, but law isn't rocket science
DOH!
Corporate chess in action.
At the end of the day if everybody on /. got a million dollars in exchange for shutting up and letting DMCA and CDBPPTA pass, the /. crowd would change their opinions overnight except for RMS and a few other exceptions.
Democracy works - that's the problem with America. At least don't lie to yourself - if some faceless Ethiopean 10000 miles away is gonna get killed so that you can have an extra $100 tax rebate, you're not gonna care, and you're definitely not gonna heckle your Senator over it. That's why the media self-censors, you don't even *want* to know. Your 1st Amendment and therefore your Constitution died long ago, so America should get off its high horse.
That leaves us with... Motorola 68000, so are you saying that x86 emulation on a Motorolla 68000 will be faster than an x86 FPGA?
Well, OK here's a quote from this article, my attempt to stick a crowbar between your eyelids and prise them open just a little so you see a glimpse of the *real* world.
Now read an article here about the Bhopal accident, and then the company did it again in Australia so the company had to move again, like Kazaa. Here's another article about Shell which gives 20% to Nigeria, and keeps 80% profit (so a barrel of gas costs $20, Nigeria actually gets paid $4 per barrell) and has killed people for money.Sorry, but there's a good reason why Government heads and Corporate heads don't sleep well at night.