Not everybody who uses M$ Office is doing trivial work, some of the secretaries where I work use it's advanced features to save immense amounts of time.
And this is the very group of MS Office users that will NEVER be happy with OpenOffice ragardless of its functionality.
I use Debian. it doesn't matter if Gentoo offers a 5% performance gain or Mandrake has the latest version of KDE. I'm productive in Debian. It's what I know best. I might switch if work forced it upon me, but I will never look at an RPM or portage based distro on my own and think "gee, I should switch since it offers the same features in a slightly different way."
The real question is why would a new user learn MS Office and get locked into Microsoft's UI when there is a useable $free$ alternative. I'm amazed that every new PC doesn't ship with OpenOffice preinstalled and MS Office offered as an upgrade option.
Power MS Office users are only going to switch when it becomes impracticle to use MS Office because of its lack of support for the OpenOffice file format. Anyone who believes they will be the first wave of "switchers" is deluded. They will be the last wave, just like the WordPerfect power users when MS Office became the de facto standard.
So why isn't possible that women are not as proficient in the math's and sciences as men?
Making such a statement assumes that the current teaching methods are perfect for both sexes. It also assumes that we have perfect knowledge about the inner workings of the human brain. If men are better than women at math, which hormones cause improved math skill?
Standardized testing only proves that women currrently taught in the U.S. educational system tend to be poor at math compared to men. What factors cause this is unknown.
JC is being polite to his licensees, but he doesn't *really* have to. a commercial license to the Q3A source is far, far, far more valuable than a GPL release.
But the price of licensing the current GPL release for commercial use is substantially lower than the price for licensing the current commercial release for commercial use. Licensing Quake 2 costs $10,000. Licensing Quake 3 costs $250,000.
It's just a cheap way of getting 3x the ad revenue from a single article. The article here wasn't even that bad.
Video card reviews tend to be much worse. They make the charts unreadably small, slap 20 words of text with each chart and make the review 15 pages long with several hundred kb of advertising on each page.
The article states that the current shrinkwrap scenario is fine as long as they put a URL to the license terms on the box. This is progress, but it's a baby step towards a real solution. Either accept returns or disclose the license prior to purchase.
Yes, I realize that KDevelop + QT Designer (or whatever it's called) is to many people a much more attractive development environment than the GNOME alternative.
Why didn't you mention them by name? Anjuta and Glade. Neither program is as intuitive as its KDE counterpart, but a quick stroll through a tutorial or two will get you on the right track. The problem is that for a long time the GTK/Gnome tools for Win32 were terrible, and porting an application built with GTK was a major chore. It's much better now. GTK-- on Debian unstable is version 2.4.8 and on Windows it's 2.4.8
Even so, just compiling your code on Win32 is a PITA. Dev C++ has made it easier to get a functional mingw build environment (at least for pure GTK or wxWidgets) but the last time I tried it there was no support for importing Kdevelop/Anjuta projects...you had to go through manually and import individual source files into a new project.
The prices are a little bit on the high side, but you are buying support not the software for the most part and they are certainly not higher that Windows Server 2003 which they are setup to compete with.
The RedHat recommended version for a small business webserver is here.
Microsoft policy is that business products will be supported for a minimum of five years (10 for hotfix security support) after they are released.
Windows Server 2003 Web Edition is $399. Per year that's $79.80 for 5 years or $39.90 for 10 years.
RHES for x86 is $349 per year for updates, installation help, and support with a 2 day response time. Over 5 years you're paying $1745 total. Over 10 it's $3490. These figures also assume that RedHat does not raise the prices higher in the future and does not change the contract.
Sorry, I can't dump thousands into a piece of hardware---I'm looking for a way to make the most of my Epson Perfection 2400 with transparency adapter
Er... If you're a professional then the investment in new equipment is tax deductable. I can't imagine a professional photographer sacrificing valuable time to save a few bucks on equipment.
Not everyone wants a integrated mess, some of use just want small clean simple phones that work and are dirt cheap. I don't want color screens (or need more like it), cameras, office apps, keyboards......
If you're female, no problem, just stuff all the different devices into a purse.
If you're male and you use a PDA and a phone, you're stuck with the Treo. There's a limited amount of space in the pockets of a pair of jeans.
I'm using Cingular which I believe is GSM. My Treo often drops the connection while dialing with 2 or three bars of signal strength. It's quite annoying since you dial, put the phone to your ear, and wait like an asshole because the phone doesn't make a sound to let you know the connection dropped.
In my experience the Treo 600 is a bad phone, an embarrasingly useless camera, and a great PDA.
No one would claim the Treo 600 had the best sound quality in the world, but it was completely passable, and it had fantastic reception.
That's odd.
Perhaps my experience isn't representative of Treo 600 owners in general, but my Treo gets terrible reception and sounds just as bad. My wife has a cheap nokia phone that cost nothing while the Treo cost me $400, shows full signal strength while my Treo shows 50%, and sounds like a land-line while my Treo sounds like a bad IP phone.
I always assumed that the Treo 600 simply wasn't a good phone. Since I use it for email and web far more than as a phone, I figured the poor phone performance was a small price to pay.
Most of the presentations at HLUG do not use slides other than an occasional intro and wrap-up. Usually it's a mix of talking and demonstration in a tty or X window. The format of presentations is fairly loose, with members of the audience interrupting to ask for one thing or another to be shown.
I'd love to share notes with anyone that's trying to do something substantially similar. The original intention was to build a DVD and VHS video library to share with other LUGs and offer as a starting point for new users.
Seriously, whose life is 1) so exciting that video clips are required for full appreciation and 2) not too exciting to have enough time to record the whole thing on video?
Recording isn't the time-killer... Editing is the time-killer.
I started recording the Houston LUG meetings on video a few months back. Initially I used a single camera and panned between the speaker and the projection screen. After the first video it became obvious that one camera constantly pointed at the screen and one camera constantly pointed at the presenter, spliced together into a seamless video would make a much more professional final product. Filming the presentations takes no time at all but dumping the video to the computer and editings it into a seamless final product is very time consuming.
DV dumps onto the computer at 1x, so a 2 hour presentation takes 4 hours to dump and a full day or more to edit and render. Even a simple five minute clip will take hours to perfect if anything remotely interesting is on the video. A video-blog entry that's filmed in one single take without any splicing would be quick and easy, but it would get old rather rapidly. You really need to cherry pick lots of footage into a nice short clip.
Of course, the amount of time required for editing would go down with practice, but the speed of dumping and rendering (at least with Cinelerra) would remain quite high compared to pecking out a blog entry with a keyboard or uploading a "picture of the day." It's possible that the right tools to make these objections moot will come along though.
If you have no clue of the issues, if you're basing your decision solely on superficial reasons, or if you're just voting because someone told you to, please don't vote.
If everyone applied this logic the world would be a better place. Unfortunately there are millions of people who don't apply this logic. There are millions of people who believe they are following the guidance of inspired and informed leaders (divine or otherwise) who have better knowledge of who to vote for. Given that not voting in this situation will aplify the power of these groups even more, you need to vote if for no reason other than to drown out their strength.
So, if you really don't know who to vote for, pick someone you respect, someone you tend to agree with, and ask them who to vote for.
It is the flag from the old logo taken solely and transplanted. So anyone who has been around long enough to remember the old logo knows what it means.
Certainly a valid point. The slant of the flag pole indicates a team effort, even if the symbolism is lost on anyone who hasn't seen the old logo. Still, why is the flag orange?
I'd call it bland and meaningless, but YMMV. The press release says nothing about why this particular logo was chosen and doesn't mention the color of the flag at all. The color of a flag is supposed to mean something. Orange is usually a warning sign, as in the orange flags on kids bicycles or the orange flags on beaches to indicate hazardous swimming.
You're reading this scenario wrong. The point isn't that hosting the book in Australia makes it legal for US readers to download...it doesn't. When you download the file you are breaking US copyright laws in the process. The point is that a group in Australia, obeying the laws of Australia, can't be held accountable for the unlawful acts of US citizens who download the book. The US government is responsible for enforcing US copyright laws, not the rest of the world.
So yes, someone could go to a country that doesn't respect copyrights and steal all the GPL code they want, but the code will be illegal once it's imported back into the US. Since the only folks with any incentive to steal GPL code are proprietary software developers it would be foolish to develop a product overseas that can't be imported into the US, Europe, Australia, etc.
It depends on what kind of server you are talking about. Sarge comes with some significantly newer packages with many new features such as postfix 2.1 and apache2. I'd say stay with Woody for a while if you already have it installed, but it makes sense to install Sarge on new servers.
Personally I figure that staying inside the security support window is more important than newer versions. That assumes that a newer version of this or that isn't a requirement to begin with.
If you need a newer version of a single server application (say exim4 or MySQL 4) then Stable with a backport is probably the best route. If you really need Apache 2, Kernel 2.6.8, MySQL 4 and more then backports are probably a bad idea...dive into Sarge.
What I was really trying to stress is that the impending release of Sarge does not mean the imminent death of Woody. If Woody works and you want Debian Stable goodness, install Stable.
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Debian's strategy of rock-solid releases is something that makes the distro unique. It also doesn't make it much fun.
It's simply a matter of expectations. Debian Stable is there for the same reason as RedHat Advanced Server and RedHat Advanced Workstation. If you're using GNU/Linux in a business environment you don't want to upgrade the OS every six months. The long release cycle and insistence on keeping the same versions of packages between major releases makes it possible to install a server or workstation and forget about it. If you're playing/experimenting/learning/developing with GNU/Linux, then Debian Stable probably isn't what you're looking for. If you're earning a paycheck or running a business on GNU/Linux then Debian Stable is probably what you're looking for. You can pay $2000/year for a 3 year support cycle from RedHat or $0 for a 3 year support cycle from Debian.
Whether or not the current state of affairs with Debian Stable was intended is a different subject though. I think many Debian developers would like to see more frequent releases. There is no indication that releases will be more frequent in the future though. IMHO, that's a good thing. There are plenty of other distros with rapid release cycles to choose from.
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Not everybody who uses M$ Office is doing trivial work, some of the secretaries where I work use it's advanced features to save immense amounts of time.
And this is the very group of MS Office users that will NEVER be happy with OpenOffice ragardless of its functionality.
I use Debian. it doesn't matter if Gentoo offers a 5% performance gain or Mandrake has the latest version of KDE. I'm productive in Debian. It's what I know best. I might switch if work forced it upon me, but I will never look at an RPM or portage based distro on my own and think "gee, I should switch since it offers the same features in a slightly different way."
The real question is why would a new user learn MS Office and get locked into Microsoft's UI when there is a useable $free$ alternative. I'm amazed that every new PC doesn't ship with OpenOffice preinstalled and MS Office offered as an upgrade option.
Power MS Office users are only going to switch when it becomes impracticle to use MS Office because of its lack of support for the OpenOffice file format. Anyone who believes they will be the first wave of "switchers" is deluded. They will be the last wave, just like the WordPerfect power users when MS Office became the de facto standard.
Hysterical
No way is a 1 GHz Via Nehemiah going to be faster than a 1.25 GHz G4.
The VIA unichrome video chipset using shared memory is a poor substitute for a Radeon 9200 with dedicated memory.
So why isn't possible that women are not as proficient in the math's and sciences as men?
Making such a statement assumes that the current teaching methods are perfect for both sexes. It also assumes that we have perfect knowledge about the inner workings of the human brain. If men are better than women at math, which hormones cause improved math skill?
Standardized testing only proves that women currrently taught in the U.S. educational system tend to be poor at math compared to men. What factors cause this is unknown.
JC is being polite to his licensees, but he doesn't *really* have to. a commercial license to the Q3A source is far, far, far more valuable than a GPL release.
But the price of licensing the current GPL release for commercial use is substantially lower than the price for licensing the current commercial release for commercial use. Licensing Quake 2 costs $10,000. Licensing Quake 3 costs $250,000.
It's just a cheap way of getting 3x the ad revenue from a single article. The article here wasn't even that bad.
Video card reviews tend to be much worse. They make the charts unreadably small, slap 20 words of text with each chart and make the review 15 pages long with several hundred kb of advertising on each page.
As for "Trust the Source!" Well, how many of Firefox users build it from said source?
You've never seen a Gentoo compile-fest have you?
The only valid complaints I can see are the the installer is crappy and the MD5 sums are not signed with a Mozilla GPG key.
The article states that the current shrinkwrap scenario is fine as long as they put a URL to the license terms on the box. This is progress, but it's a baby step towards a real solution. Either accept returns or disclose the license prior to purchase.
net.net looks like it has been squatted for a full decade.
Yes, I realize that KDevelop + QT Designer (or whatever it's called) is to many people a much more attractive development environment than the GNOME alternative.
Why didn't you mention them by name? Anjuta and Glade. Neither program is as intuitive as its KDE counterpart, but a quick stroll through a tutorial or two will get you on the right track. The problem is that for a long time the GTK/Gnome tools for Win32 were terrible, and porting an application built with GTK was a major chore. It's much better now. GTK-- on Debian unstable is version 2.4.8 and on Windows it's 2.4.8
Even so, just compiling your code on Win32 is a PITA. Dev C++ has made it easier to get a functional mingw build environment (at least for pure GTK or wxWidgets) but the last time I tried it there was no support for importing Kdevelop/Anjuta projects...you had to go through manually and import individual source files into a new project.
If you call Microsoft with a problem you'd better have a credit card ready.
And the same applies to RedHat. The price quoted is only includes "One Year Installation and Basic Configuration Web Support"
The prices are a little bit on the high side, but you are buying support not the software for the most part and they are certainly not higher that Windows Server 2003 which they are setup to compete with.
Windows Server 2003 prices are here.
The RedHat recommended version for a small business webserver is here.
Microsoft policy is that business products will be supported for a minimum of five years (10 for hotfix security support) after they are released.
Windows Server 2003 Web Edition is $399. Per year that's $79.80 for 5 years or $39.90 for 10 years.
RHES for x86 is $349 per year for updates, installation help, and support with a 2 day response time. Over 5 years you're paying $1745 total. Over 10 it's $3490. These figures also assume that RedHat does not raise the prices higher in the future and does not change the contract.
Sorry, I can't dump thousands into a piece of hardware---I'm looking for a way to make the most of my Epson Perfection 2400 with transparency adapter
Er... If you're a professional then the investment in new equipment is tax deductable. I can't imagine a professional photographer sacrificing valuable time to save a few bucks on equipment.
Not everyone wants a integrated mess, some of use just want small clean simple phones that work and are dirt cheap. I don't want color screens (or need more like it), cameras, office apps, keyboards......
If you're female, no problem, just stuff all the different devices into a purse.
If you're male and you use a PDA and a phone, you're stuck with the Treo. There's a limited amount of space in the pockets of a pair of jeans.
I'm using Cingular which I believe is GSM. My Treo often drops the connection while dialing with 2 or three bars of signal strength. It's quite annoying since you dial, put the phone to your ear, and wait like an asshole because the phone doesn't make a sound to let you know the connection dropped.
In my experience the Treo 600 is a bad phone, an embarrasingly useless camera, and a great PDA.
No one would claim the Treo 600 had the best sound quality in the world, but it was completely passable, and it had fantastic reception.
That's odd.
Perhaps my experience isn't representative of Treo 600 owners in general, but my Treo gets terrible reception and sounds just as bad. My wife has a cheap nokia phone that cost nothing while the Treo cost me $400, shows full signal strength while my Treo shows 50%, and sounds like a land-line while my Treo sounds like a bad IP phone.
I always assumed that the Treo 600 simply wasn't a good phone. Since I use it for email and web far more than as a phone, I figured the poor phone performance was a small price to pay.
Most of the presentations at HLUG do not use slides other than an occasional intro and wrap-up. Usually it's a mix of talking and demonstration in a tty or X window. The format of presentations is fairly loose, with members of the audience interrupting to ask for one thing or another to be shown.
I'd love to share notes with anyone that's trying to do something substantially similar. The original intention was to build a DVD and VHS video library to share with other LUGs and offer as a starting point for new users.
Seriously, whose life is 1) so exciting that video clips are required for full appreciation and 2) not too exciting to have enough time to record the whole thing on video?
Recording isn't the time-killer... Editing is the time-killer.
I started recording the Houston LUG meetings on video a few months back. Initially I used a single camera and panned between the speaker and the projection screen. After the first video it became obvious that one camera constantly pointed at the screen and one camera constantly pointed at the presenter, spliced together into a seamless video would make a much more professional final product. Filming the presentations takes no time at all but dumping the video to the computer and editings it into a seamless final product is very time consuming.
DV dumps onto the computer at 1x, so a 2 hour presentation takes 4 hours to dump and a full day or more to edit and render. Even a simple five minute clip will take hours to perfect if anything remotely interesting is on the video. A video-blog entry that's filmed in one single take without any splicing would be quick and easy, but it would get old rather rapidly. You really need to cherry pick lots of footage into a nice short clip.
Of course, the amount of time required for editing would go down with practice, but the speed of dumping and rendering (at least with Cinelerra) would remain quite high compared to pecking out a blog entry with a keyboard or uploading a "picture of the day." It's possible that the right tools to make these objections moot will come along though.
If you have no clue of the issues, if you're basing your decision solely on superficial reasons, or if you're just voting because someone told you to, please don't vote.
If everyone applied this logic the world would be a better place. Unfortunately there are millions of people who don't apply this logic. There are millions of people who believe they are following the guidance of inspired and informed leaders (divine or otherwise) who have better knowledge of who to vote for. Given that not voting in this situation will aplify the power of these groups even more, you need to vote if for no reason other than to drown out their strength.
So, if you really don't know who to vote for, pick someone you respect, someone you tend to agree with, and ask them who to vote for.
It is the flag from the old logo taken solely and transplanted. So anyone who has been around long enough to remember the old logo knows what it means.
Certainly a valid point. The slant of the flag pole indicates a team effort, even if the symbolism is lost on anyone who hasn't seen the old logo. Still, why is the flag orange?
I like it. Clean and attractive
I'd call it bland and meaningless, but YMMV. The press release says nothing about why this particular logo was chosen and doesn't mention the color of the flag at all. The color of a flag is supposed to mean something. Orange is usually a warning sign, as in the orange flags on kids bicycles or the orange flags on beaches to indicate hazardous swimming.
So why orange?
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So everyone that reads the message should call collect to let them know they recieved the e-mail in error?
You're reading this scenario wrong. The point isn't that hosting the book in Australia makes it legal for US readers to download...it doesn't. When you download the file you are breaking US copyright laws in the process. The point is that a group in Australia, obeying the laws of Australia, can't be held accountable for the unlawful acts of US citizens who download the book. The US government is responsible for enforcing US copyright laws, not the rest of the world.
So yes, someone could go to a country that doesn't respect copyrights and steal all the GPL code they want, but the code will be illegal once it's imported back into the US. Since the only folks with any incentive to steal GPL code are proprietary software developers it would be foolish to develop a product overseas that can't be imported into the US, Europe, Australia, etc.
It depends on what kind of server you are talking about. Sarge comes with some significantly newer packages with many new features such as postfix 2.1 and apache2. I'd say stay with Woody for a while if you already have it installed, but it makes sense to install Sarge on new servers.
Personally I figure that staying inside the security support window is more important than newer versions. That assumes that a newer version of this or that isn't a requirement to begin with. If you need a newer version of a single server application (say exim4 or MySQL 4) then Stable with a backport is probably the best route. If you really need Apache 2, Kernel 2.6.8, MySQL 4 and more then backports are probably a bad idea...dive into Sarge.
What I was really trying to stress is that the impending release of Sarge does not mean the imminent death of Woody. If Woody works and you want Debian Stable goodness, install Stable.
Debian's strategy of rock-solid releases is something that makes the distro unique. It also doesn't make it much fun.
It's simply a matter of expectations. Debian Stable is there for the same reason as RedHat Advanced Server and RedHat Advanced Workstation. If you're using GNU/Linux in a business environment you don't want to upgrade the OS every six months. The long release cycle and insistence on keeping the same versions of packages between major releases makes it possible to install a server or workstation and forget about it. If you're playing/experimenting/learning/developing with GNU/Linux, then Debian Stable probably isn't what you're looking for. If you're earning a paycheck or running a business on GNU/Linux then Debian Stable is probably what you're looking for. You can pay $2000/year for a 3 year support cycle from RedHat or $0 for a 3 year support cycle from Debian.
Whether or not the current state of affairs with Debian Stable was intended is a different subject though. I think many Debian developers would like to see more frequent releases. There is no indication that releases will be more frequent in the future though. IMHO, that's a good thing. There are plenty of other distros with rapid release cycles to choose from.