Typical liberal trying to play on peoples fear of the unknown. Even if we were to assume your argument was true, which it isn't. What part does your warped thought process think Salon plays in it?
Salon is a joke, they are failing for lack of good content, period.
300k isnt what it used to be. In the silicon valley for instance if you don't make 100k a year you are lower class and barely able to sustain a living.
Maing 300k on a two person income might allow you to send your kid to college.
11m a year sounds like a reasonable loss to me considering journalists will be making 60-100k a year, plus bandwidth costs, admin costs, server costs, backup costs etc.
100k on R&D is nothing. Thats the salary of one consultant coming to audit and test. Thats the cost of 100 servers in a server farm. Thats peanuts in an online business.
There are a lot of liberals here. Some have been brainwashed by the PC movement so severely they have to run over to CNN and do a search for they're copy and paste answers to everything.
Blame is one thing, responsibility is quite another. Just try and deny the economic mess wasn't started int he clinton administration. Please try and deny that I would love to shoot you down.
The dems however deny this flat out blaming Bush. Conservatives have no choice but to put blame i.e. responsibility where it lies in this argument.
Nice try tho, if you weren't a liberal and capable of rational thought I would continue, but I wasted enough time.
So you have ONE example to post? I can make a list of dozens of liberal media outlets, hundreds including locals across the nation, and you have the audacity to complain about Rush?
Personally I think the web is going to kill the news media as we know it today i think this is a good thing. We complain as a society when special interest groups taint our polititians, but we never flinch when they taint our news outlets.
What it will boil down to is journalists will have to actually do something other than play on peoples emotions because the truth i.e. facts will be readily available on the net. The net will allow small time journaliistic talents to be heard on a large scale. As it is today the chances of becoming a notable and famous journalist is smaller than becoming the next Eminem.
I'm personally sick of seeing Ashleigh Banfield on CNN dressed up like an Arab reporting on issues she 1) has no real clue about and 2) probably couldn't give a shit about anyway.
Hasn't anyone been watching CNN? They report the same 2-3 stories all day, everyday. When they have been beaten to death they report them 500 more times until they are sure everyone in America has been brainwashed by it. Then they find 2-3 more stories that are exactly the same but have different faces.
The liberal media is just out of this world these days. Nothing but crying and complaining and pointing fingers at everything and everyone.
The answer is independant media run by people who do it in their spare time. Much like open source software where multiple influences and ideas are used. Right now you have nothing like that in the media, most of the news agencies are run by large corporations (MSNBC anyone?), or are influenced heavily by liberal democrats who care little about real issues.
It's time we took the media into our own hands. There is no reason you can't report what is happening locally on your own webpage. Isn't this largely what slashdot is? It's news contributed by multiple sources for the benefit of it's own contributors. You get back what you put in.
Liberals always blame everyone but themselves. It's really classic liberalism:)
People in America are fed up with it. The liberals caused the economic mess we are in and left it for the Bush administration. Then they go on TV and claim Bush is the root of all evil when the problems date back before Bush was even running as a candidate.
Typical Democrat liberals, blame everything but their own wrong ideas. They haven't come up with anythiing original since the protests in the 60's-70's
Could you point out this right wing media plz? It's been quite a while since there was a right wing centered media outlet, everything is liberal 24 hour news like CNN.
Accurate is in the eye of the beholder these days, especially if you are claiming liberals are accurate. I think you are in serious need of a dose of Rush Limbaugh.
I never bothered to go there, too many free news sites and such.
I do get really turned off on the liberal media. Did anyone see Aaron Brown crying on CNN when the republicans won this last election? That was the last straw for me. American media is just way to liberal these days, purposely inflating issues to gain votes/ratings.
The media is supposed to be impartial, reporting the facts and leaving us to draw our own conclusions. I can't think of a single media outlet that is friendly to that notion.
Well, no one wants to hear about what happened in vietnam. It was one of the ugliest wars in history. Its a vast and complex issue that brings up a lot of feelings, good and bad.
Ultimately, both sides were wrong. However there are a lot of people that just wanna beat America down, for a multitude of personal reasons, so America is the bad guy.
No one wants to hear about how South and North Vietnam were at war long before we came into the picture. That we were asked to help because of our minor success in Korea.
I think a true testament of what we are made of as a country is the fact we came together after vietname. Russie fell apart after its war in Afghanistan, literally. America learned a lot of lessons in the 60's and 70's and so far hasn't repeated any of those same mistakes.
Blah, whatever, no matter what we say in a slashdot thread, the world still hates the top dog. Just part of life I suppose.
There is actually a lot more to it than that. John McCain takes issue with the VC (VietCong) who were notoriously evil in combat. These were mostly 12-18 year old boys and girls in black pajams who setup traps using their own women and children as bait. They frequently slaughtered entire villages of their own people by purposely putting them in the line of fire so they could get the liberal Jane Fondas of the world to say "LOOK AMERICA IS KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE".
Men like McCain who had to fight them now just how evil they were. Ad to that his stay in the POW camps, the deaths of close friends, etc and you have a recipe for a life times worth of anger hate and general anxiety.
That part of the world is not a good place. No matter what the liberals would like us to believe, the south east asain governments do not respect life. However the vietnamese people as well as cambodians etc are generally good people.
" How come Israelis and JEws who call for the murder and ethnic cleansing of palestinians are never called "Anti-arab"or "Anti-muslim"?"
They are
"Then just 30 years later pol pot is commit genocide of an unprecedented scale in combodia but no one gives a good god damn cuase they are just some broke ass asians."
Because we got our asses kicked in that part of the world trying to do them a favor (we entered vietnam at south vietnams request).
Check your history, America isn't the worlds police. We don't go around saving everyone, it's their job to save themselves. We don't have to "give a shit", but if you would like us too then I suggest you give us a reason to "give a shit" by not strapping bombs to your chest and going kamakazi through grocery stores and bus stations.
"long before there was any sort of terrorist rationalization. "
Actually terrorism has been around in the mainstream American sense, since the 1950's, which is why Kennedy formed the U.S. Navy SEAL's in 1962. Their aim was specifically targeted at terrorism, Yasser Arafat in particular.
We have just become complacent because since the mid 80's the American media has been more focused on what happens within our borders rather than outside them. This is what 911 changed, the American medias focus, and in affect ours.
Try reading it again, you seam to have read everything but the words "white trash". If you wish to call yourself white trash as well as southern and redneck then by all means do so, just don't accord yourself with the same respect a decent human being would presume.
I happen to be southern myself so your argument is pretty fucking moot. Next time don't just read what you want to read, read what is actually there.
Because it shows the scum fuck for what he really is. A hate breeding mongrel.
It's who he is, you don't write about someone and neglect who they are. Do you write about hitler and not mention he hated jews? Do you write about Osama Bin Laden without mentioning in the slightest way he hates jews and Americans?
He put the label on himself, he has no one else to blame.
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Just an example of Democratic liberals not knowing how to manage money if you ask me.
"OMFG a recession? RAISE TAXES!"
Typical liberal trying to play on peoples fear of the unknown. Even if we were to assume your argument was true, which it isn't. What part does your warped thought process think Salon plays in it?
Salon is a joke, they are failing for lack of good content, period.
Oh but Pelosi will turn it all around for them, LOL
That woman is as far left as it gets.
I dunno, ask Bill Clinton, he justifies that shit somehow.
Oh and of course leave it to the liberal to start with the name calling, I mean it's not like you had an actual argument right?
Thats the funniest thing I've read all day. Thanks, i'm sending it to all my friends right now so they can laugh too.
300k isnt what it used to be. In the silicon valley for instance if you don't make 100k a year you are lower class and barely able to sustain a living.
Maing 300k on a two person income might allow you to send your kid to college.
11m a year sounds like a reasonable loss to me considering journalists will be making 60-100k a year, plus bandwidth costs, admin costs, server costs, backup costs etc.
100k on R&D is nothing. Thats the salary of one consultant coming to audit and test. Thats the cost of 100 servers in a server farm. Thats peanuts in an online business.
"Limbaugh? You're a dittohead? I give up. There's no getting through to fools like you."
Thank goodness, if you got through to me I'd want to be shot and put out of my misery.
Fox is far from right-wing
There are a lot of liberals here. Some have been brainwashed by the PC movement so severely they have to run over to CNN and do a search for they're copy and paste answers to everything.
Run on over to rushlimbaugh.com right now. Nothing but contribution.
Quit distorting the truth and accept it.
You must be liberal, you absolutely twisted every fact to your own distorted end.
Whats a matter, no one buying your bullshit anymore? lol
Nice try.
Blame is one thing, responsibility is quite another. Just try and deny the economic mess wasn't started int he clinton administration. Please try and deny that I would love to shoot you down.
The dems however deny this flat out blaming Bush. Conservatives have no choice but to put blame i.e. responsibility where it lies in this argument.
Nice try tho, if you weren't a liberal and capable of rational thought I would continue, but I wasted enough time.
So you have ONE example to post? I can make a list of dozens of liberal media outlets, hundreds including locals across the nation, and you have the audacity to complain about Rush?
Gimme a break.
Personally I think the web is going to kill the news media as we know it today i think this is a good thing. We complain as a society when special interest groups taint our polititians, but we never flinch when they taint our news outlets.
What it will boil down to is journalists will have to actually do something other than play on peoples emotions because the truth i.e. facts will be readily available on the net. The net will allow small time journaliistic talents to be heard on a large scale. As it is today the chances of becoming a notable and famous journalist is smaller than becoming the next Eminem.
I'm personally sick of seeing Ashleigh Banfield on CNN dressed up like an Arab reporting on issues she 1) has no real clue about and 2) probably couldn't give a shit about anyway.
Hasn't anyone been watching CNN? They report the same 2-3 stories all day, everyday. When they have been beaten to death they report them 500 more times until they are sure everyone in America has been brainwashed by it. Then they find 2-3 more stories that are exactly the same but have different faces.
The liberal media is just out of this world these days. Nothing but crying and complaining and pointing fingers at everything and everyone.
The answer is independant media run by people who do it in their spare time. Much like open source software where multiple influences and ideas are used. Right now you have nothing like that in the media, most of the news agencies are run by large corporations (MSNBC anyone?), or are influenced heavily by liberal democrats who care little about real issues.
It's time we took the media into our own hands. There is no reason you can't report what is happening locally on your own webpage. Isn't this largely what slashdot is? It's news contributed by multiple sources for the benefit of it's own contributors. You get back what you put in.
I'll end my rant there.
Liberals always blame everyone but themselves. It's really classic liberalism :)
People in America are fed up with it. The liberals caused the economic mess we are in and left it for the Bush administration. Then they go on TV and claim Bush is the root of all evil when the problems date back before Bush was even running as a candidate.
Typical Democrat liberals, blame everything but their own wrong ideas. They haven't come up with anythiing original since the protests in the 60's-70's
Could you point out this right wing media plz? It's been quite a while since there was a right wing centered media outlet, everything is liberal 24 hour news like CNN.
Accurate is in the eye of the beholder these days, especially if you are claiming liberals are accurate. I think you are in serious need of a dose of Rush Limbaugh.
I never bothered to go there, too many free news sites and such.
I do get really turned off on the liberal media. Did anyone see Aaron Brown crying on CNN when the republicans won this last election? That was the last straw for me. American media is just way to liberal these days, purposely inflating issues to gain votes/ratings.
The media is supposed to be impartial, reporting the facts and leaving us to draw our own conclusions. I can't think of a single media outlet that is friendly to that notion.
Well, no one wants to hear about what happened in vietnam. It was one of the ugliest wars in history. Its a vast and complex issue that brings up a lot of feelings, good and bad.
Ultimately, both sides were wrong. However there are a lot of people that just wanna beat America down, for a multitude of personal reasons, so America is the bad guy.
No one wants to hear about how South and North Vietnam were at war long before we came into the picture. That we were asked to help because of our minor success in Korea.
I think a true testament of what we are made of as a country is the fact we came together after vietname. Russie fell apart after its war in Afghanistan, literally. America learned a lot of lessons in the 60's and 70's and so far hasn't repeated any of those same mistakes.
Blah, whatever, no matter what we say in a slashdot thread, the world still hates the top dog. Just part of life I suppose.
There is actually a lot more to it than that. John McCain takes issue with the VC (VietCong) who were notoriously evil in combat. These were mostly 12-18 year old boys and girls in black pajams who setup traps using their own women and children as bait. They frequently slaughtered entire villages of their own people by purposely putting them in the line of fire so they could get the liberal Jane Fondas of the world to say "LOOK AMERICA IS KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE".
Men like McCain who had to fight them now just how evil they were. Ad to that his stay in the POW camps, the deaths of close friends, etc and you have a recipe for a life times worth of anger hate and general anxiety.
That part of the world is not a good place. No matter what the liberals would like us to believe, the south east asain governments do not respect life. However the vietnamese people as well as cambodians etc are generally good people.
" How come Israelis and JEws who call for the murder and ethnic cleansing of palestinians are never called "Anti-arab"or "Anti-muslim"?"
They are
"Then just 30 years later pol pot is commit genocide of an unprecedented scale in combodia but no one gives a good god damn cuase they are just some broke ass asians."
Because we got our asses kicked in that part of the world trying to do them a favor (we entered vietnam at south vietnams request).
Check your history, America isn't the worlds police. We don't go around saving everyone, it's their job to save themselves. We don't have to "give a shit", but if you would like us too then I suggest you give us a reason to "give a shit" by not strapping bombs to your chest and going kamakazi through grocery stores and bus stations.
Thats incredible, i mean most people with extreme abilities have eccentricities but thats quite unique in my experience.
"long before there was any sort of terrorist rationalization. "
Actually terrorism has been around in the mainstream American sense, since the 1950's, which is why Kennedy formed the U.S. Navy SEAL's in 1962. Their aim was specifically targeted at terrorism, Yasser Arafat in particular.
We have just become complacent because since the mid 80's the American media has been more focused on what happens within our borders rather than outside them. This is what 911 changed, the American medias focus, and in affect ours.
Its been going on for a long time.
Since when has hate ever been "right"? When has hate ever solved anything?
That was the most pathetic rationalization I have ever heard promoting hate.
Try reading it again, you seam to have read everything but the words "white trash". If you wish to call yourself white trash as well as southern and redneck then by all means do so, just don't accord yourself with the same respect a decent human being would presume.
I happen to be southern myself so your argument is pretty fucking moot. Next time don't just read what you want to read, read what is actually there.
Cry to someone that actually gives a damn.
Because it shows the scum fuck for what he really is. A hate breeding mongrel.
It's who he is, you don't write about someone and neglect who they are. Do you write about hitler and not mention he hated jews? Do you write about Osama Bin Laden without mentioning in the slightest way he hates jews and Americans?
He put the label on himself, he has no one else to blame.