Comissioned art is still art. But money was not the motivation behind creation. If Michelangelo had not been commisioned by the Pope to paint the ceiling he would have still continued to be creative by any other means. Even while commisioned he never lost his artistic integrity.
If Michelangelo had not been recognized as a great artist he would have still created even if he had to beg on the streets for money to buy chalk. Art history is littered with great artists that never recieved any money for their art and died without a cent. Not to mention women artists which not only never got any money, they never got well deserved recognition. Still, that did not stop them.
As I said before, compensation is great and often necessary for mere survival but it never is the motivation for any real artist to create.
Note: I have a problem putting Metallica on the same category as Michelangelo. No one can dictate what is good and bad art. Me personal opinion is that Metallica leaves a lot to be desired but many appreciate their work and their opinions are just as valid as mine.
A real artist needs no incentive to create. It flows from within and its a necessary as breathing. If the artist can get compensated for creating it is welcomed but it is NOT the driving force behind the creative process.
I feel lucky that I can have a job where I get compensated for providing my services and skill. If not, I would still be doing it anyway, even if it meant flipping burgers all day just so I could get home and user my computer (whichever one I could afford) to create both graphic art and code.
I lived thorugh periods of extreme financial strain. I ate fried egg sandwiches for months, (breakfast, lunch and dinner) and used Wendy's napkins as toilet paper. Not for a moment did I stop creating. At all times I felt blessed becuase I could still create art.
First: Napster is as good as dead. They will not be able to survive the barrage of lawsuits. Deal with it.
Second: User base will shift to Gnutella. Gnutella unfortunately is not perfect.
Third: Some big band (A puppet of the RIAA) will compile a list of IP addresses of people serving up their music and sue them to make an example. This will be enough to scare people away from Gnutella.
Fourth: User base will shift to FreeNet. Not much anyone can do here. Short of a law prohibiting people from running FreeNet client software and raiding peoples houses.
Fifth: The RIAA will realize this is a futile battle and try to embrace Napster like distribution.
Sixth: By then, many people will be so disappointed with their former idols that they wont care any more. Most big recording bands stopped being artists a long time ago. Independent musicians will increase in popularity. They will be glad people are listening to their art and will not be focused on the monetary return.
this family of logos has been designed to meet the following criteria:
work well in black/white as well as color scalable (small reproduction size versions included) not too detailed the string "Debian" can be added/removed w/o making it look bad and retaining recognition formats included for vertical and horizontal use
The concept is a genie bottle that has been opened.
The vision it conveys is that the genie is out of the bottle, the curl of smoke symbolizes something great, free, liberating, dynamic, global, expanding, changing and empowering being released to the world.
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Debian Official Logo
this family of logos has been designed to meet the following criteria:
work well in black/white as well as color scalable (small reproduction size versions included) not too detailed the string "Debian" can be added/removed w/o making it look bad while retaining recognition formats included for vertical and horizontal use
The concept is a derivation from the submited Debian Open Use logo. On the Open Use logo the theme is a genie bottle that has been opened.
The vision it conveys is that the genie is out of the bottle, the curl of smoke symbolizes something great, free, liberating, dynamic, global, expanding, changing and empowering being released to the world.
On this logo the "curl" of smoke replaces the bottle all together to embody the official debian entity.
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Funny. All these you mentioned:
"Nazi propaganda, terrorist manifestos, bomb-making instructions or anti-Christian hate speech"
Are protected by freedom of speech. Should we do away with it? What the heck! People are just going to use it to say things we don't agree with.
Pity we lost so many lives defending it.
Comissioned art is still art. But money was not the motivation behind creation. If Michelangelo had not been commisioned by the Pope to paint the ceiling he would have still continued to be creative by any other means. Even while commisioned he never lost his artistic integrity.
If Michelangelo had not been recognized as a great artist he would have still created even if he had to beg on the streets for money to buy chalk. Art history is littered with great artists that never recieved any money for their art and died without a cent. Not to mention women artists which not only never got any money, they never got well deserved recognition. Still, that did not stop them.
As I said before, compensation is great and often necessary for mere survival but it never is the motivation for any real artist to create.
Note:
I have a problem putting Metallica on the same category as Michelangelo. No one can dictate what is good and bad art. Me personal opinion is that Metallica leaves a lot to be desired but many appreciate their work and their opinions are just as valid as mine.
You are clearly not an artist.
A real artist needs no incentive to create. It flows from within and its a necessary as breathing. If the artist can get compensated for creating it is welcomed but it is NOT the driving force behind the creative process.
I feel lucky that I can have a job where I get compensated for providing my services and skill. If not, I would still be doing it anyway, even if it meant flipping burgers all day just so I could get home and user my computer (whichever one I could afford) to create both graphic art and code.
I lived thorugh periods of extreme financial strain. I ate fried egg sandwiches for months, (breakfast, lunch and dinner) and used Wendy's napkins as toilet paper. Not for a moment did I stop creating. At all times I felt blessed becuase I could still create art.
There will be a sequence of events:
First: Napster is as good as dead. They will not be able to survive the barrage of lawsuits. Deal with it.
Second: User base will shift to Gnutella. Gnutella unfortunately is not perfect.
Third: Some big band (A puppet of the RIAA) will compile a list of IP addresses of people serving up their music and sue them to make an example. This will be enough to scare people away from Gnutella.
Fourth: User base will shift to FreeNet. Not much anyone can do here. Short of a law prohibiting people from running FreeNet client software and raiding peoples houses.
Fifth: The RIAA will realize this is a futile battle and try to embrace Napster like distribution.
Sixth: By then, many people will be so disappointed with their former idols that they wont care any more. Most big recording bands stopped being artists a long time ago. Independent musicians will increase in popularity. They will be glad people are listening to their art and will not be focused on the monetary return.
From the original submission:
Debian Open Use Logo
this family of logos has been designed to meet the following criteria:
work well in black/white as well as color
scalable (small reproduction size versions included)
not too detailed
the string "Debian" can be added/removed w/o making it look bad and retaining recognition
formats included for vertical and horizontal use
The concept is a genie bottle that has been opened.
The vision it conveys is that the genie is out of the bottle, the curl of smoke symbolizes something great, free, liberating, dynamic, global, expanding, changing and empowering being released to the world.
---------
Debian Official Logo
this family of logos has been designed to meet the following criteria:
work well in black/white as well as color
scalable (small reproduction size versions included)
not too detailed
the string "Debian" can be added/removed w/o making it look bad while retaining recognition
formats included for vertical and horizontal use
The concept is a derivation from the submited Debian Open Use logo. On the Open Use logo the theme is a genie bottle that has been opened.
The vision it conveys is that the genie is out of the bottle, the curl of smoke symbolizes something great, free, liberating, dynamic, global, expanding, changing and empowering being released to the world.
On this logo the "curl" of smoke replaces the bottle all together to embody the official debian entity.
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Raul