That is why they want this bill: as cameras get smaller and smaller, those with the power, like Congressmen and their monied puppetmasters have much to lose to the prying eyes of the camera....
Yer fulla shit.
The politicians who are bought by tech lobby money should be tried for treason for bringing in the H1bs. And once they are found guilty, they should hanged, like any traitor....
Just so everyone will know what we are talking about, I will quote my previous post (now modded to 0 by ??) and your reply:
I wrote:
"You came to America b/c there is work here, and none or very little in your country. You came to the country me and my ancestors built from wilderness, leaving your country. You came here b/c there are benefits to BEING HERE--namely you may sell a product here, namely your labor.
So there are benefits to building a country like America. Namely, there is demand for labor here. Thus, building a country like America gives benefits to those who built it.
But YOU (and YOUR ancestors) did NOT build America. You built India (or whatever).
We Americans and our ancestors built America. But YOU reap the benefits, and you benefit through OUR work. And b/c you coming here increases the supply of labor, we lose, even while you gain.
Therefore you are a thief, and those who facilitated your entry into this country are also thieves. Polls show that Americans want less immigration, not more.
Therefore I call for you to be imprisoned for theft, along with those politicians and organzations (e.g., the ITAA) that aided and abetted you in your crime."
You wrote:
"If everyone was held responsible for what their anchestors did....
Segregation and civil liberties...
Colonialism and killing of American Indians or Native Americans.
Crusades, religious wars etc. etc. and so on, everyone would be charged with something.
If "your" anchestor built America, what about the Indian-Arabic numbers that they use that came from India? What about the other things that came from India's anchestors that "your" anchestor borrowed or as you might say "stole"?
It's a stupid comment cryofan2 made but just in case something actually thinks it's valid in some nonsensical way."
My reply:
First of all, you appear to be laboring under a misconception, as evidenced by your use of the phrase " If everyone was responsible for what their ancestors did..."
You are, I think, confusing a pre-programmed media-fed response you already have in your brain, with an entirely different situation as presented by my origianl post. You are off on some "sins of the fathers" slant.
What I am talking about here is "inheritance." We and our ancestors built this land, and the benefits accruing therefrom are ours, and not anyone else's.
Do you have something you inherited from a dead relative? Then by your logic, it is now mine....
Of course, you don't really use logic, do you? You just output preprogrammed responses...
Just so everyone will know what we are talking about, I will quote my previous post (now modded to 0 by ??) and your reply:
I wrote:
"You came to America b/c there is work here, and none or very little in your country. You came to the country me and my ancestors built from wilderness, leaving your country. You came here b/c there are benefits to BEING HERE--namely you may sell a product here, namely your labor.
So there are benefits to building a country like America. Namely, there is demand for labor here. Thus, building a country like America gives benefits to those who built it.
But YOU (and YOUR ancestors) did NOT build America. You built India (or whatever).
We Americans and our ancestors built America. But YOU reap the benefits, and you benefit through OUR work. And b/c you coming here increases the supply of labor, we lose, even while you gain.
Therefore you are a thief, and those who facilitated your entry into this country are also thieves. Polls show that Americans want less immigration, not more.
Therefore I call for you to be imprisoned for theft, along with those politicians and organzations (e.g., the ITAA) that aided and abetted you in your crime."
You wrote:
"If everyone was held responsible for what their anchestors did....
Segregation and civil liberties...
Colonialism and killing of American Indians or Native Americans.
Crusades, religious wars etc. etc. and so on, everyone would be charged with something.
If "your" anchestor built America, what about the Indian-Arabic numbers that they use that came from India? What about the other things that came from India's anchestors that "your" anchestor borrowed or as you might say "stole"?
It's a stupid comment cryofan2 made but just in case something actually thinks it's valid in some nonsensical way."
My reply:
First of all, you appear to be laboring under a misconception, as evidenced by your use of the phrase " If everyone was responsible for what their ancestors did..."
You are, I think, confusing a pre-programmed media-fed response you already have in your brain, with an entirely different situation as presented by my origianl post. You are off on some "sins of the fathers" slant.
What I am talking about here is "inheritance." We and our ancestors built this land, and the benefits accruing therefrom are ours, and not anyone else's.
Do you have something you inherited from a dead relative? Then by your logic, it is now mine....
Of course, you don't really use logic, do you? You just output preprogrammed responses...
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That is why they want this bill: as cameras get smaller and smaller, those with the power, like Congressmen and their monied puppetmasters have much to lose to the prying eyes of the camera....
Yer fulla shit. The politicians who are bought by tech lobby money should be tried for treason for bringing in the H1bs. And once they are found guilty, they should hanged, like any traitor....
I wrote:
"You came to America b/c there is work here, and none or very little in your country. You came to the country me and my ancestors built from wilderness, leaving your country. You came here b/c there are benefits to BEING HERE--namely you may sell a product here, namely your labor.
So there are benefits to building a country like America. Namely, there is demand for labor here. Thus, building a country like America gives benefits to those who built it.
But YOU (and YOUR ancestors) did NOT build America. You built India (or whatever).
We Americans and our ancestors built America. But YOU reap the benefits, and you benefit through OUR work. And b/c you coming here increases the supply of labor, we lose, even while you gain.
Therefore you are a thief, and those who facilitated your entry into this country are also thieves. Polls show that Americans want less immigration, not more.
Therefore I call for you to be imprisoned for theft, along with those politicians and organzations (e.g., the ITAA) that aided and abetted you in your crime."
You wrote: "If everyone was held responsible for what their anchestors did ....
Segregation and civil liberties ...
Colonialism and killing of American Indians or Native Americans.
Crusades, religious wars etc. etc. and so on, everyone would be charged with something.
If "your" anchestor built America, what about the Indian-Arabic numbers that they use that came from India? What about the other things that came from India's anchestors that "your" anchestor borrowed or as you might say "stole"?
It's a stupid comment cryofan2 made but just in case something actually thinks it's valid in some nonsensical way."
My reply:
First of all, you appear to be laboring under a misconception, as evidenced by your use of the phrase " If everyone was responsible for what their ancestors did..."
You are, I think, confusing a pre-programmed media-fed response you already have in your brain, with an entirely different situation as presented by my origianl post. You are off on some "sins of the fathers" slant.
What I am talking about here is "inheritance." We and our ancestors built this land, and the benefits accruing therefrom are ours, and not anyone else's.
Do you have something you inherited from a dead relative? Then by your logic, it is now mine.... Of course, you don't really use logic, do you? You just output preprogrammed responses...
Just so everyone will know what we are talking about, I will quote my previous post (now modded to 0 by ??) and your reply: I wrote: "You came to America b/c there is work here, and none or very little in your country. You came to the country me and my ancestors built from wilderness, leaving your country. You came here b/c there are benefits to BEING HERE--namely you may sell a product here, namely your labor. So there are benefits to building a country like America. Namely, there is demand for labor here. Thus, building a country like America gives benefits to those who built it. But YOU (and YOUR ancestors) did NOT build America. You built India (or whatever). We Americans and our ancestors built America. But YOU reap the benefits, and you benefit through OUR work. And b/c you coming here increases the supply of labor, we lose, even while you gain. Therefore you are a thief, and those who facilitated your entry into this country are also thieves. Polls show that Americans want less immigration, not more. Therefore I call for you to be imprisoned for theft, along with those politicians and organzations (e.g., the ITAA) that aided and abetted you in your crime." You wrote: "If everyone was held responsible for what their anchestors did ....
Segregation and civil liberties ...
Colonialism and killing of American Indians or Native Americans.
Crusades, religious wars etc. etc. and so on, everyone would be charged with something.
If "your" anchestor built America, what about the Indian-Arabic numbers that they use that came from India? What about the other things that came from India's anchestors that "your" anchestor borrowed or as you might say "stole"?
It's a stupid comment cryofan2 made but just in case something actually thinks it's valid in some nonsensical way."
My reply:
First of all, you appear to be laboring under a misconception, as evidenced by your use of the phrase " If everyone was responsible for what their ancestors did..."
You are, I think, confusing a pre-programmed media-fed response you already have in your brain, with an entirely different situation as presented by my origianl post. You are off on some "sins of the fathers" slant.
What I am talking about here is "inheritance." We and our ancestors built this land, and the benefits accruing therefrom are ours, and not anyone else's.
Do you have something you inherited from a dead relative? Then by your logic, it is now mine....
Of course, you don't really use logic, do you? You just output preprogrammed responses...