This also is bad for the phone book. Like I said before, if someone discovers an illegal business through the phone book, now they can be sued for "facilitating." we live in a scary world.
We have the power to make sure that artists get paid what their work is worth and the middleman no longer gets 98% Figure out a way to get money to the artists. Use Apple's music service, download music for free and paypal the artists the money. The RIAA needs to be stopped, but stealing isn't the answer. You are breaking the law and depriving artists of money when you steal. Figure out a way to cut out the middleman, but still compensate the artists.
No, he ran a search engine on his PC that searched. That's all. It performed the same function that you would perform if you clicked start->search->for files or folders and selected "network neighborhood" as the search domain. He searched the network and did not perform any connections between computers. He simply displayed the workgroup and computer name, and provided a link that would allow windows explorer to connect to the other computer.
No wonder you posted this as anonymous. You're ignorant. If you followed this story the last 5 times it was posted on slashdot, you would have realized that these students only created search engines, nothing more. The people who are "depriving" millionaires of money are the people who willingly use search engines to steal things. If a whorehouse uses the phone book to advertise, is the phone book to blame when people visit the whorehouse? I don't think so. You also need to see through the RIAA propaganda. They say that music sales are down by some percent (I want to say 25% but the numbers aren't in front of me). The truth is, music releases are down more than that. They release less music, then blame computer users when sales go down.
Anyway, you're ignorant of the laws and the actual technology used in this case. Also, your post makes no sense. No one is complaining about copyright infringement except the RIAA, even though they have stolen music.
I just wanted to let all/.ers know that one of the defendents in this case, Jesse Jordan of Rensselaer has set up a furom for discussion of the lawsuit and whatever else. Find it at http://www.chewplastic.com/bb
I just wanted to let all/.ers know that one of the defendents in this case, Jesse Jordan of Rensselaer has set up a furom for discussion of the lawsuit and whatever else. Find it at http://www.chewplastic.com/bb
First of all, it's spelled copyright. Spell the main topic right and people won't think you're so much of a moron. Secondly, there are people who do NOT wish to make money off their work, they just want to benefit other people. The Phynd system is open-source, and none of the Phynd servers have ad banners on them. They are run by the students as a service for other students, and not to make money. The world economy is changing, and the RIAA is trying to resist. They can't.
so now you're stalking people who post on slashdot? how the hell do you know who does and does not buy music? it's people like you that lead to the wrongful imprisonment of innocent people. research your opinion, read the other posts, then you can post.
If you go into a bookstore and open up a book or magazine and read a page and then decide to buy it, did you steal that one page that you read? No. If you decide not to buy the magazine or book, then would someone prosecute you for stealing individual magazine pages? No. Then why are you so adamant against people "stealing" music. If you download something with the intent of listening to it before you buy it, then you decide to buy it, you have done nothing wrong. And don't start up on the radio and MTV bull either. The radio plays only a select few artists, and MTV only plays artists rich enough to make videos. If I want to listen to new music from poor groups, the only way to get their music is online or in the stores. I'm not about to pay $20 only to find out that I don't like the CD.
You're living in their building and using their electricity and network connection. If you refuse them the right to search your computer you can kiss your network access goodbye. If you have someone in another room fire up a wireless hub, your whole hall can be taken out. Believe me, it's happened. They own everything, and you can't anger them.
Well first of all, this isn't the MPAA, it's the RIAA, there is no FBI warning on RIAA products. Secondly, you answered your own question. There is less burden of proof, and the limitations on the plaintiff are much looser. The RIAA is only doing this to select webmasters at select colleges as a scare tactic. There are 50,000 computers on Texas A&M's network, and 4,000 on Rensselaer's network, yet 2 RPI webmasters get served, and none from the larger schools. The RIAA is throwing their weight around and trying to "warn" people. It's stupid.
There have been multiple surveys done in music stores of paying customers that prove that people who download a song from an album are more likely to purchase that album. You can laugh all you want, but the number is something like 80% Go look it up before you come in here thinking that all people are as evil-minded as you.
But these people aren't stealing. They are improving upon a search method. Using your logic, google and yahoo should be sued because they are search engines that can return results that include copyrighted material.
The people who wrote these sites aren't doing anything illegal. They are simply taking a network search utility and making it more efficient. If the RIAA wants to sue someone, they should pick on someone their own size. Sue Microsoft for including "Network Neighborhood" in their "search for files and folders" tool. That's all these kids are doing, searching a LAN for files, more efficiently by storing lists of filenames in a centralized location.
Telling crazy immigrants that slashdot always tells the truth. The chinese government frowns on April Fool's day, but the citizens don't quite know what it's about.
Why does slashdot think it's appropriate to post lies on national lie to people day? First of all, it stops most people from even getting on the internet for at least 24 hours (like me), but with the internet being more international these days, they can cause problems. I had to stop my chinese neighbor from frantically selling stocks TWICE today because I told him slashdot was a reputable news source. I guess I won't be making that mistake again.
I agree that this is more like a plug for the books than a review, but I have all three books in hardback, and I loved them when I first read them in middle school. It is really enjoyable and I recommend that any young adult that is questioning his faith or can suspend belief enough to where the book isn't "damaging" should read these books. They really are good.
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Help Jesse pay the $12,000. Go to Chewplastic.com and click the "contribute via paypal" link that's at the top of the page right now. Fuck the RIAA.
This also is bad for the phone book. Like I said before, if someone discovers an illegal business through the phone book, now they can be sued for "facilitating." we live in a scary world.
We have the power to make sure that artists get paid what their work is worth and the middleman no longer gets 98% Figure out a way to get money to the artists. Use Apple's music service, download music for free and paypal the artists the money. The RIAA needs to be stopped, but stealing isn't the answer. You are breaking the law and depriving artists of money when you steal. Figure out a way to cut out the middleman, but still compensate the artists.
No, the wording of the settlement (I'm an inside source) says that the RIAA cannot prosecute him again for this.
No, he ran a search engine on his PC that searched. That's all. It performed the same function that you would perform if you clicked start->search->for files or folders and selected "network neighborhood" as the search domain. He searched the network and did not perform any connections between computers. He simply displayed the workgroup and computer name, and provided a link that would allow windows explorer to connect to the other computer.
No wonder you posted this as anonymous. You're ignorant. If you followed this story the last 5 times it was posted on slashdot, you would have realized that these students only created search engines, nothing more. The people who are "depriving" millionaires of money are the people who willingly use search engines to steal things. If a whorehouse uses the phone book to advertise, is the phone book to blame when people visit the whorehouse? I don't think so. You also need to see through the RIAA propaganda. They say that music sales are down by some percent (I want to say 25% but the numbers aren't in front of me). The truth is, music releases are down more than that. They release less music, then blame computer users when sales go down. Anyway, you're ignorant of the laws and the actual technology used in this case. Also, your post makes no sense. No one is complaining about copyright infringement except the RIAA, even though they have stolen music.
I just wanted to let all /.ers know that one of the defendents in this case, Jesse Jordan of Rensselaer has set up a furom for discussion of the lawsuit and whatever else. Find it at http://www.chewplastic.com/bb
I just wanted to let all /.ers know that one of the defendents in this case, Jesse Jordan of Rensselaer has set up a furom for discussion of the lawsuit and whatever else. Find it at http://www.chewplastic.com/bb
First of all, it's spelled copyright. Spell the main topic right and people won't think you're so much of a moron. Secondly, there are people who do NOT wish to make money off their work, they just want to benefit other people. The Phynd system is open-source, and none of the Phynd servers have ad banners on them. They are run by the students as a service for other students, and not to make money. The world economy is changing, and the RIAA is trying to resist. They can't.
so now you're stalking people who post on slashdot? how the hell do you know who does and does not buy music? it's people like you that lead to the wrongful imprisonment of innocent people. research your opinion, read the other posts, then you can post.
If you go into a bookstore and open up a book or magazine and read a page and then decide to buy it, did you steal that one page that you read? No. If you decide not to buy the magazine or book, then would someone prosecute you for stealing individual magazine pages? No. Then why are you so adamant against people "stealing" music. If you download something with the intent of listening to it before you buy it, then you decide to buy it, you have done nothing wrong. And don't start up on the radio and MTV bull either. The radio plays only a select few artists, and MTV only plays artists rich enough to make videos. If I want to listen to new music from poor groups, the only way to get their music is online or in the stores. I'm not about to pay $20 only to find out that I don't like the CD.
You're living in their building and using their electricity and network connection. If you refuse them the right to search your computer you can kiss your network access goodbye. If you have someone in another room fire up a wireless hub, your whole hall can be taken out. Believe me, it's happened. They own everything, and you can't anger them.
Read the article before you post. the RIAA is suing individual students ate private universities.
They've gotten around the anti-trust laws by being a "coalition" and not a "corporation"
Well first of all, this isn't the MPAA, it's the RIAA, there is no FBI warning on RIAA products. Secondly, you answered your own question. There is less burden of proof, and the limitations on the plaintiff are much looser. The RIAA is only doing this to select webmasters at select colleges as a scare tactic. There are 50,000 computers on Texas A&M's network, and 4,000 on Rensselaer's network, yet 2 RPI webmasters get served, and none from the larger schools. The RIAA is throwing their weight around and trying to "warn" people. It's stupid.
There have been multiple surveys done in music stores of paying customers that prove that people who download a song from an album are more likely to purchase that album. You can laugh all you want, but the number is something like 80% Go look it up before you come in here thinking that all people are as evil-minded as you.
But these people aren't stealing. They are improving upon a search method. Using your logic, google and yahoo should be sued because they are search engines that can return results that include copyrighted material.
The people who wrote these sites aren't doing anything illegal. They are simply taking a network search utility and making it more efficient. If the RIAA wants to sue someone, they should pick on someone their own size. Sue Microsoft for including "Network Neighborhood" in their "search for files and folders" tool. That's all these kids are doing, searching a LAN for files, more efficiently by storing lists of filenames in a centralized location.
Telling crazy immigrants that slashdot always tells the truth. The chinese government frowns on April Fool's day, but the citizens don't quite know what it's about.
Why does slashdot think it's appropriate to post lies on national lie to people day? First of all, it stops most people from even getting on the internet for at least 24 hours (like me), but with the internet being more international these days, they can cause problems. I had to stop my chinese neighbor from frantically selling stocks TWICE today because I told him slashdot was a reputable news source. I guess I won't be making that mistake again.
I agree that this is more like a plug for the books than a review, but I have all three books in hardback, and I loved them when I first read them in middle school. It is really enjoyable and I recommend that any young adult that is questioning his faith or can suspend belief enough to where the book isn't "damaging" should read these books. They really are good.
Now, I new to posting at slashdot, but did anyone else notice that that guy's name (1010011010) is almost 1337, he's just missing a 1 at the end.