So in essence, though not claiming property of the intellectual concept of a haiku, you are saying that in posting boards you thought of using haikus as a device for both humor and to get a certain point across quickly...but wait! You said the idea CAME from somewhere? So you ARE claiming the intellectual property of another person, someone who is on a mailinglist you are, or who writes for it perhaps, and you came to/. and because you think that you may by some chance be the first person to have ever written one and posted it here you are...what? God? We should all get down on our proverbial knees and prostrate ourselves because you took the idea from another person, and a different place and allowed us to see the friggin' light? If you want me to cal-tow to you: forget it. If you want credit: here's a phone token, call someone who gives a damn.
P.S.- I bet I'm the first person to use that old line, I'll keep an eye out to see if anyone else says it.
First off, we DO NOT live in a democracy, that would require each and every voter to vote upon every single piece of legislation that has ever arrisen. Doesn't happen. We live in a "representative democracy," this is where we pick someone to represent us as a whole in one person, we become their constituents, this person is your congressman or senator.
We learned that in gradeschool, go back to 5th grade, do not collect $200 and do not drop the soap.
Secondly, in somewhat the same words as the movie "Clerks", I can think of another group of thousands upon thousands of people did what for them was morally and legally right, they were called the Nazis. I know that this is an extreme example when arguing about copyright etc., but read on. Following your logic, LilDebbie, whatever is appropriate in context is also appropriate out of context, I can jokingly call my girlfriend "my bitch" and tell my friends to "touch the tip of your dicks to your asses and go fuck yourselves", but should I walk up to any person on the street and say the same thing...no. And if what I do with my friends is morally or legally wrong in general, then does that make it even right in context if a bunch of people do it? No, it doesn't. The Nuremburg Trials stand on the very grounds that there can be a greater wrong as well as a greater right.
"Public Performance" laws are best expalined in this example. If a band, say 'Fictitous Under-rated Compilation Kids', wants to perform a cover of the song "Run-Around Sue" for the next concert they do at the local firehall then they don't have to buy the rights, no one is going to hear it that matters, there is no hardcopy of the song. It simply goes out into the air and diffuses after hitting the ears of a bunch sweaty kids. If F.U.C.K. decides to make a compilation CD at their friends 'studio' and records the same song, they have violated copyright laws. If the band wishes to use the song in a venue where there are large numbers of people and there is the chance for a cash/profitable prize, i.e. getting signed to a label or some other such thing, they would need to secure rights to performance of the song. Until the copyright becomes 'public domain' any public performance is subject to copyright infringement.
Thus Blizzard is attempting to state that there is a premanent/semi-permanent copy of the copyrighted material available to a large number of people, AND that the users of said material stand to profit from the use of this material in some way.
I personally don't think that Blizzard/Vivendi has squat of a case in this department. All that they're doing is throwing chaff to the wind. I do however believe that the lawyers they'll have will create such an arduous task for any future defense tactics that bnetd will just buckle...it's not like they're fulled by a multi-million dollar industry.
Look if you want to truly talk globalization, then you need to talk cosmopolitanism. According to Martha Nussbaum in her essay, Patriotism and Cosmopolitanism she begins to get off onto a tangent about the merits of the both and does something similar to what is being done here by Katz, just on the other side of my argument. The only way that true "Globalization" can be a "good" thing is if all people take the same view point as Diogenes "the cynic" Laertius said, "I am a citizen of the world.", a cosmpolitan. If you want to know what that entails then look to Borowski or Blonski, it requres that all people believe in complete universal human rights, abolishment of feelings of strict and restrictive Patriotism, and a myriad of different ideals that can all be sumed up in the term "Utopian." (Which is historically fitting. Utopian interestingly enough was originally a criticism or rather a mockery of the idea itself because the word's etymology means not only the contemporary perfect society, but also an unattainable one!) Both Katz and Nussbaum fail to mention the other aspect of the Globilization/Cosmopolitan dichotomy, one can not be judged as good or evil without due consideration of the other. That's my "too sense".
And if you believe that then the rest of existence must be sad at homebase. C'mon you really can't believe that because Tony Hawk2 for the GC is really better than the original Mario Brothers?!? In THPX2 you have to beat the game with all of the regular characters, all of the secret characters, your own custom character, and get every single-pittly little dollar bill blowing in the wind before you beat the game. And after a while all of that would be boring, even if it were challenging, but you get cheats that allow you to basically FLY AROUND LIKE YOU WERE ON THE MOON!!! Skateboarding at 1/6th Earth's gravity doing the same thing for the 18th time is not good, and not quality, and certainly not challenging. Kick some tricks with your friends for a while...then leave your house and enjoy a real deck.
Real-life examples lead down the path of enlightenment again!
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P.S.- I bet I'm the first person to use that old line, I'll keep an eye out to see if anyone else says it.
We learned that in gradeschool, go back to 5th grade, do not collect $200 and do not drop the soap.
Secondly, in somewhat the same words as the movie "Clerks", I can think of another group of thousands upon thousands of people did what for them was morally and legally right, they were called the Nazis. I know that this is an extreme example when arguing about copyright etc., but read on. Following your logic, LilDebbie, whatever is appropriate in context is also appropriate out of context, I can jokingly call my girlfriend "my bitch" and tell my friends to "touch the tip of your dicks to your asses and go fuck yourselves", but should I walk up to any person on the street and say the same thing...no. And if what I do with my friends is morally or legally wrong in general, then does that make it even right in context if a bunch of people do it? No, it doesn't. The Nuremburg Trials stand on the very grounds that there can be a greater wrong as well as a greater right."Public Performance" laws are best expalined in this example. If a band, say 'Fictitous Under-rated Compilation Kids', wants to perform a cover of the song "Run-Around Sue" for the next concert they do at the local firehall then they don't have to buy the rights, no one is going to hear it that matters, there is no hardcopy of the song. It simply goes out into the air and diffuses after hitting the ears of a bunch sweaty kids. If F.U.C.K. decides to make a compilation CD at their friends 'studio' and records the same song, they have violated copyright laws. If the band wishes to use the song in a venue where there are large numbers of people and there is the chance for a cash/profitable prize, i.e. getting signed to a label or some other such thing, they would need to secure rights to performance of the song. Until the copyright becomes 'public domain' any public performance is subject to copyright infringement. Thus Blizzard is attempting to state that there is a premanent/semi-permanent copy of the copyrighted material available to a large number of people, AND that the users of said material stand to profit from the use of this material in some way. I personally don't think that Blizzard/Vivendi has squat of a case in this department. All that they're doing is throwing chaff to the wind. I do however believe that the lawyers they'll have will create such an arduous task for any future defense tactics that bnetd will just buckle...it's not like they're fulled by a multi-million dollar industry.
Look if you want to truly talk globalization, then you need to talk cosmopolitanism. According to Martha Nussbaum in her essay, Patriotism and Cosmopolitanism she begins to get off onto a tangent about the merits of the both and does something similar to what is being done here by Katz, just on the other side of my argument. The only way that true "Globalization" can be a "good" thing is if all people take the same view point as Diogenes "the cynic" Laertius said, "I am a citizen of the world.", a cosmpolitan. If you want to know what that entails then look to Borowski or Blonski, it requres that all people believe in complete universal human rights, abolishment of feelings of strict and restrictive Patriotism, and a myriad of different ideals that can all be sumed up in the term "Utopian." (Which is historically fitting. Utopian interestingly enough was originally a criticism or rather a mockery of the idea itself because the word's etymology means not only the contemporary perfect society, but also an unattainable one!) Both Katz and Nussbaum fail to mention the other aspect of the Globilization/Cosmopolitan dichotomy, one can not be judged as good or evil without due consideration of the other. That's my "too sense".
And if you believe that then the rest of existence must be sad at homebase. C'mon you really can't believe that because Tony Hawk2 for the GC is really better than the original Mario Brothers?!? In THPX2 you have to beat the game with all of the regular characters, all of the secret characters, your own custom character, and get every single-pittly little dollar bill blowing in the wind before you beat the game. And after a while all of that would be boring, even if it were challenging, but you get cheats that allow you to basically FLY AROUND LIKE YOU WERE ON THE MOON!!! Skateboarding at 1/6th Earth's gravity doing the same thing for the 18th time is not good, and not quality, and certainly not challenging. Kick some tricks with your friends for a while...then leave your house and enjoy a real deck. Real-life examples lead down the path of enlightenment again!
It's called sight rhyme, tiger. Go back to 10th grade, do not pass "GO," and do not drop the soap.