RedHat adopted the GNOME desktop for Fedora which was intended to be the framework for the desktop companion to their RedHat Enterprise server. In this corporate-centric model, there was no need for fancy eye-candy or configurations options because the BOFH determined what you used, how it worked and what it looked like. And it needed to be minimalist, locked down and bereft of choices and meet corporate needs, not user needs.
GTK exists only because people went all derp over QTs inital license terms. Even when the QT license terms were changed to be acceptable to the FOSS community, the Gnomistas continued with their "I hate the evil QT and I'm very cool" attitude. It's difficult to sustain a movement on hate and arrogance and negativity.
GTK and GNOME were, indeed, made for each other.
Is it any wonder that the GTK/GNOME desktop is dying? It does not meet the needs of the majority of the people who want to use it. It is intended only for a very narrow, small audience.
I'm not trolling. Perhaps the best A/V for the clueless grandparent user is Linux.
A modern Linux with the LXDE window manager configured to look like/work like a Windows desktop using Firefox to web surf and access Gmail plus whatever the latest iteration of LibreOffice is for word processing has been a winner for me in similar circumstances. The biggest problem is when they have some obscure win32 app they are tethered to. In those cases, spend the only $$ you need to spend and use Crossover.
I usually try them out with a custom run-from-CD distro with the appropriate configurations and apps and do a regular install if they like it.
Most of them don't even know they aren't using Windows and receive in return fast, reliable performance free from most of the problems they have had before. The one or two that this is not a good solution for can be reverted to Windows. BONUS: your tech help burden is lessened and simplified.
The best safeguard is the abandonment of all existing proprietary formats to freedom (so anybody can write conversion software) and the proliferation of open formats on an ongoing basis.
but TFA seems highly sensationalistic and inflammatory. So much so that it undermines any facts it presents. It is, sadly, what passes for journalism these days.
There are. You can keep a dying dream alive and foster hope that the Linux poseur can be dethroned and GNU WILL LIVE!
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They're also building a pretty good quality, constructive and helpful community - that counts a lot. Their forums are useful and full of helpful people, all there for a reason.
Good distro, would install again. A+
I've used it since Mandrake 5.1, as well as SuSE, RedHat, Fedora and Ubuntu. It beats those hands down for usability, friendliness and hardware support. It offers terrible decorative/desktop graphics, however, but those have been easy enough to change. Their URPMI wrapper to RPM makes RPM useable and essentially trouble-free.
All went down the drain when they changed the name from mystical "Mandrake" to "Mandriva", which sounds like the name of a night club for french gay vampires.
They had to change from Mandrake for copyright reasons. At the same time, they acquired a "-iva" named Brazian distro and combined the names. When the asshats running Mandriva were about to tank the distro, many developers jumped ship and named the new spinoff Mageia, carrying on the Mandrake-ish "magic" theme. None of them ever claimed to be marketing geniuses and histiory has validdated that. It's a shame for such a good, solid distro.
I hate companies like Canipre as much as anyone else, but there are much more important things to criticize then for other than using a couple of Creative Commons photos without proper attribution.
It's OK when the champions of rights actually abuse and ignore those same rights when honoring those rights is inconvenient for them because, you know, they are champions of those rights.
Move along, citizen, there is nothing to see here.
NTSB officials said it wasn't their intention to prevent drivers from having a glass of wine with dinner, but...
Could they be more disingenuous?
Next thing they'll tell us that red-light cameras are strictly for safety.
Let's be honest. -most- of the drivers on the road just below and above the legal limit make it home safely. Are they taking a huge risk? Yes, but it mostly pays off. Except when it doesn't pay off, it's so needlessly tragic. So let's set some realistic penalties so it no longer pays to take the risk.
DUI and loss of life - automatic death penalty or life in prison without parole. DUI and injury - 20 years minimum in prison DUI and property damage only - 5 years minimum in prison DUI and no injuries, death or property damage - heavy fine based on income; 2nd time loss of license forever and fines; driving with DUI-revoked license 5 years minimum in prison and fines; 3rd DUI 20 years minimum in prison
Most sensible people will readily comply with the law. Those that don't have a clue will be sent away quickly.
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What about the children?
RedHat adopted the GNOME desktop for Fedora which was intended to be the framework for the desktop companion to their RedHat Enterprise server. In this corporate-centric model, there was no need for fancy eye-candy or configurations options because the BOFH determined what you used, how it worked and what it looked like. And it needed to be minimalist, locked down and bereft of choices and meet corporate needs, not user needs.
GTK exists only because people went all derp over QTs inital license terms. Even when the QT license terms were changed to be acceptable to the FOSS community, the Gnomistas continued with their "I hate the evil QT and I'm very cool" attitude. It's difficult to sustain a movement on hate and arrogance and negativity.
GTK and GNOME were, indeed, made for each other.
Is it any wonder that the GTK/GNOME desktop is dying? It does not meet the needs of the majority of the people who want to use it. It is intended only for a very narrow, small audience.
That is, if it can run Linux or Android.
I'm not trolling. Perhaps the best A/V for the clueless grandparent user is Linux.
A modern Linux with the LXDE window manager configured to look like/work like a Windows desktop using Firefox to web surf and access Gmail plus whatever the latest iteration of LibreOffice is for word processing has been a winner for me in similar circumstances. The biggest problem is when they have some obscure win32 app they are tethered to. In those cases, spend the only $$ you need to spend and use Crossover.
I usually try them out with a custom run-from-CD distro with the appropriate configurations and apps and do a regular install if they like it.
Most of them don't even know they aren't using Windows and receive in return fast, reliable performance free from most of the problems they have had before. The one or two that this is not a good solution for can be reverted to Windows. BONUS: your tech help burden is lessened and simplified.
The best safeguard is the abandonment of all existing proprietary formats to freedom (so anybody can write conversion software) and the proliferation of open formats on an ongoing basis.
I was just look to see what's going on at your place . . .
but TFA seems highly sensationalistic and inflammatory. So much so that it undermines any facts it presents. It is, sadly, what passes for journalism these days.
If you can get to 'alpha' stage in 30 days, how many years is that to a 1.0 release?
What are the benefits of using GNU/Hurd 2013?
There aren't any.
There are. You can keep a dying dream alive and foster hope that the Linux poseur can be dethroned and GNU WILL LIVE!
They're also building a pretty good quality, constructive and helpful community - that counts a lot. Their forums are useful and full of helpful people, all there for a reason.
Good distro, would install again. A+
I've used it since Mandrake 5.1, as well as SuSE, RedHat, Fedora and Ubuntu. It beats those hands down for usability, friendliness and hardware support. It offers terrible decorative/desktop graphics, however, but those have been easy enough to change. Their URPMI wrapper to RPM makes RPM useable and essentially trouble-free.
All went down the drain when they changed the name from mystical "Mandrake" to "Mandriva", which sounds like the name of a night club for french gay vampires.
They had to change from Mandrake for copyright reasons. At the same time, they acquired a "-iva" named Brazian distro and combined the names. When the asshats running Mandriva were about to tank the distro, many developers jumped ship and named the new spinoff Mageia, carrying on the Mandrake-ish "magic" theme. None of them ever claimed to be marketing geniuses and histiory has validdated that. It's a shame for such a good, solid distro.
Here's some more background on what makes Mageia unique.
http://maximumhoyt.blogspot.com/2013/01/mageia3-beta-vs-fedora18.html
Nothing to see here, citizen.
I hate companies like Canipre as much as anyone else, but there are much more important things to criticize then for other than using a couple of Creative Commons photos without proper attribution.
It speaks to their character.
It's OK when the champions of rights actually abuse and ignore those same rights when honoring those rights is inconvenient for them because, you know, they are champions of those rights.
Move along, citizen, there is nothing to see here.
Will this run on my VIC-20?
Otherwise, meh.
NTSB officials said it wasn't their intention to prevent drivers from having a glass of wine with dinner, but ...
Could they be more disingenuous?
Next thing they'll tell us that red-light cameras are strictly for safety.
Let's be honest. -most- of the drivers on the road just below and above the legal limit make it home safely. Are they taking a huge risk? Yes, but it mostly pays off. Except when it doesn't pay off, it's so needlessly tragic. So let's set some realistic penalties so it no longer pays to take the risk.
DUI and loss of life - automatic death penalty or life in prison without parole.
DUI and injury - 20 years minimum in prison
DUI and property damage only - 5 years minimum in prison
DUI and no injuries, death or property damage - heavy fine based on income; 2nd time loss of license forever and fines; driving with DUI-revoked license 5 years minimum in prison and fines; 3rd DUI 20 years minimum in prison
Most sensible people will readily comply with the law. Those that don't have a clue will be sent away quickly.
You're not. Especially when the first "improvement" to be mentioned is "the addition of multiple social providers."
I read that as "multiple social diseases" and now it makes more sense to me.
Thanks for the "browser.download.useToolkitUI" tip! The new download box was truly horrendous.
What good is a browser that makes you use about:config to undo all the "improvements"?
Remember when Firefox used to be a web browser? I liked it when it was a web browser.
Isn't that kind of bloat what happened to Netscape?
Read this as "What Would You Look For In a Prostitute Handie?" so I've got nothing for the OP. . .
Good, another reason to avoid Ubuntu like the plague.
They've already farked up "Steam for Lin^H^H^HUbuntu", so this is not surprising.
That caused the Three-Mile Island disaster. They should have learned their lesson.
It mean over 300,000 lines of code are wrong, most of it in the app I keep trying to use.
There were some kind of MS Office for the I-Pad, that would solve the problem!