Perhaps they should stop developing dvd decryption in the US. US law doesn't apply to other countries and they'll have a hard time stopping it.
What about the effects of free trade agreements? These tend to make US law pervasive. An aussie guy was extradited to the US recently for piracy even tho he never previously set foot on US territory. From an Aussie perspective - it sux!
Adelaide is a fantastic city! Surrounded by park lands - great place to work and live. Great weather, wine beaches, food, dining entertainment, and free wireless!
2) Start a project that creates a new source code management system that does everything that he wants - basically scratch his own itch. He might do this if he can't find something that fits the bill.
You want Linus to waste time on a YASCM? There are many more importrant things to do in the Kernel!
Humor asside... I think Linus needs to think about how the kernel source is managed (i.e. the control model) and maybe change that... Then select an appropriate tool.
Get your requirements and architecture right first, then implement. This may mean a change to how the kernel development process works.
Hockey - heaps of times. Oh - you probably mean the other hockey - played on ice.
We don't got enuf ice downunder, too many sunny days at the beach with sexy chics;-)
Not to mention swimming, cricket, rugby etc.
Canada? Hmmmm... Ah I remember, the ice block to the north of the USA, a minor part of the Commonwealth. We beat them at sport every 4 years or so at the commonwealth games.;-)
I always thought that CP/M was a rip off from RT/11 that ran in PDP 11's.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT-11 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/M
Eg. CP/M pip (Peripheral-Interchange-Program) had the same syntax as RT/11 and much of the CP/M command line was the same/similar.
(Not to mention that the EU is made up of many countries with widely varied cultures. Why would they want to adopt a system where a single country could go patent-happy like the US and drag the whole Continent down with them?)
Because they are a bunch of corrupt politicians. Like they say: No matter who you vote for you end up electing a politician!
Why do you think Bill the Borg visted Europse lately?
V4.2 was when clusters worked properly. V4.7 was the last of V4 and V5.1 (aka Open VMS 1.5 on Alpha) was the 1st cross platform version. Eventually Digital woke up and make the version numbers the same. OpenVMS was for both VAX and Alpha (The 'open' moniker was a marketing thang).
Geezzzz...
We are allowed to deport illegal immigrants. Every nation has that option.
People comming illegally to.au assessed NOT to be refugees get deported. .au rules are less onerous than the UNHCR rules, so we are fairer then the UN. .au has a very fair refugee program and a (increased) quota of refugees in our immigration program.
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So next the Rational Tools or DB2? Maybe, WebSphere MVS, CICS? Where will it all end?... A company transforming from product oriented to service oriented. Woo Hoo!! and Yippee!!
Yup! This IS NOTHING LIKE M$ (Proprietory Closed Software)...
1. Problem is published (often not at all for PCSW)
2. Problem is published in a timely fashion (like thats happens with PCSW)
3. Fix is published in a timely fashion, your fav distro has online updates, or you can fix it yourself (Cant do that with PCSW)
As a result the opportunity to exploit the problem is orders of magnitude lower than with PCSW
It is not M$ bashing, it is bashing PCSW model that is important. M$ have chosen a PCSW product oriented business model. The long term future is open service based business models. Even IBM (remember the 70's anti trust - I was there) now derive about 60% of their revenue from services and have started supporting FOSS and opening products (eg. Eclipse, Cloudscape).
That 1970's software often included the source code.
For many years you got the Digital VMS source code on Microfiche as part of the distro (maybe it was an extra option on the contract?) but we had those sources and used them when writing drivers and other low level bits. Also we used the source to send bug reports (SPRs) to Digital. Made for faster patches to you sent the fix with the bug report;-)
So? How is this relevant? It's still a strong competitor in the Office market.
If strong means < 10% of the productivity tool market. M$ Windoze and Office account for 90+% of the market. Inertia has a very hard thing to control.
The FOSS movement must come up with strategies to deal with different market segments. See: http://www.users.on.net/~farnik/wikicgi/wiki.pl?Ma rketingFLOSS
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Viral Infection, Spyware, Trojans, and Adware = VISTA
Perhaps they should stop developing dvd decryption in the US. US law doesn't apply to other countries and they'll have a hard time stopping it.
What about the effects of free trade agreements? These tend to make US law pervasive. An aussie guy was extradited to the US recently for piracy even tho he never previously set foot on US territory. From an Aussie perspective - it sux!
Bugger off ya bloody bastards! Leave our IP alone. Or we will sik an army of drop bears (killer koalas) on ya!
Adelaide is a fantastic city! Surrounded by park lands - great place to work and live. Great weather, wine beaches, food, dining entertainment, and free wireless!
Also: Wikipedia on Adelaide
Can you say machine code?
FORTRAN IV !
2) Start a project that creates a new source code management system that does everything that he wants - basically scratch his own itch. He might do this if he can't find something that fits the bill.
You want Linus to waste time on a YASCM? There are many more importrant things to do in the Kernel!
It's what the professionals use.
We use IBM Rational products at work.
Unless IBM donate (to ALL kernel developers) or open source ClearCase then it is way too expensive.
What's more you need the top end version of ClearCase for distributed repositories.
Humor asside... I think Linus needs to think about how the kernel source is managed (i.e. the control model) and maybe change that... Then select an appropriate tool.
Get your requirements and architecture right first, then implement. This may mean a change to how the kernel development process works.
I vote for Subversion!
;-)
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Redmond spin...
MSFT announced today that it has proof that Linus Torvalds is a stinkin commie subversive...
Followed by much dialogue on Groklaw and
The fact is, China has been known to give advantages to their "home teams"
Looking forward to the Bejing drug free olymipics ?
It's not theft, it's copyright violation. You haven't been deprived of physical property...
They steal bandwidth, electricity (electron flow) and storage space on my disks. All of which cost $. So why is this not property theft?
Hockey - heaps of times. Oh - you probably mean the other hockey - played on ice. We don't got enuf ice downunder, too many sunny days at the beach with sexy chics ;-)
Not to mention swimming, cricket, rugby etc.
From an Aussie...
;-)
Canada? Hmmmm... Ah I remember, the ice block to the north of the USA, a minor part of the Commonwealth. We beat them at sport every 4 years or so at the commonwealth games.
Looking forward to Melbourne!!
I always thought that CP/M was a rip off from RT/11 that ran in PDP 11's. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT-11 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/M Eg. CP/M pip (Peripheral-Interchange-Program) had the same syntax as RT/11 and much of the CP/M command line was the same/similar.
Well... We've had one of our colder January's in a while here in South Australia - hardly used my swimming pool compared to last year.
Where the hell is global warming when u need it?
Have you stopped lying?
and... Have you stopped beating your wife?
(Not to mention that the EU is made up of many countries with widely varied cultures. Why would they want to adopt a system where a single country could go patent-happy like the US and drag the whole Continent down with them?)
Because they are a bunch of corrupt politicians. Like they say: No matter who you vote for you end up electing a politician!
Why do you think Bill the Borg visted Europse lately?
no viruses
There was a DCL trojan once . It relied on some variable (symbol) substitution tricks to make the script look like what it was not.
See http://www.kgb.com/dcl/198811.txt for details of the trojan.
V4.2 was when clusters worked properly. V4.7 was the last of V4 and V5.1 (aka Open VMS 1.5 on Alpha) was the 1st cross platform version. Eventually Digital woke up and make the version numbers the same. OpenVMS was for both VAX and Alpha (The 'open' moniker was a marketing thang).
Cutler's original kernel was written in assembler
I thought VAX VMS was originally written in Bliss32 with some bits in Macro32.
Geezzzz... .au assessed NOT to be refugees get deported.
.au rules are less onerous than the UNHCR rules, so we are fairer then the UN.
.au has a very fair refugee program and a (increased) quota of refugees in our immigration program.
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We are allowed to deport illegal immigrants. Every nation has that option.
People comming illegally to
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So next the Rational Tools or DB2? ... A company transforming from product oriented to service oriented. Woo Hoo!! and Yippee!!
Maybe, WebSphere MVS, CICS?
Where will it all end?
IBM building a future - well done.
Yup! This IS NOTHING LIKE M$ (Proprietory Closed Software)...
1. Problem is published (often not at all for PCSW)
2. Problem is published in a timely fashion (like thats happens with PCSW)
3. Fix is published in a timely fashion, your fav distro has online updates, or you can fix it yourself (Cant do that with PCSW)
As a result the opportunity to exploit the problem is orders of magnitude lower than with PCSW
It is not M$ bashing, it is bashing PCSW model that is important. M$ have chosen a PCSW product oriented business model. The long term future is open service based business models. Even IBM (remember the 70's anti trust - I was there) now derive about 60% of their revenue from services and have started supporting FOSS and opening products (eg. Eclipse, Cloudscape).
That 1970's software often included the source code.
;-)
For many years you got the Digital VMS source code on Microfiche as part of the distro (maybe it was an extra option on the contract?) but we had those sources and used them when writing drivers and other low level bits.
Also we used the source to send bug reports (SPRs) to Digital. Made for faster patches to you sent the fix with the bug report
The FOSS movement must come up with strategies to deal with different market segments. See: http://www.users.on.net/~farnik/wikicgi/wiki.pl?M