> Yes but when will they have microchips than can control the flow of beer?
I don't know about that, but AI thought experiments include a device that mimics a human brain made via buckets of water, poured. I suppose buckets of beer could work just as well keeping the brain moving along at a steady clip.
Re:laws for time travellers? who cares?
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It has been pointed out that proposing the creation of a parallel universe at every possible measurement position every single time any two quantum-particles interact (think countless 10**2340980234... positions, per particle interaction per moment in time) is the ultimate violation of Occam's Razor.
Re:Been there, done that.
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And let's correct something else while we're at it:
van Damme: Hi, I'm the kickboxing champ from the 1980's.
Guy with mustache: Hi, I once went 10 rounds with Gentleman Jim Corbett.
(van Damme gets his head handed to him)
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> Yes, but how many 15 year olds daydreaming in > math class subscribe to the theory that multiple > parallel universes exist?
Well, if memory serves correctly, I daydreamed of the parallel universe where I was porking Debbie, and the other universe where I was porking the other Debbie, and the one where I was eating out Carolyn, and the other where I was French kissing the ass of Michelle, and the one where I was pounding on my Spanish teacher, and the one...
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> Which also explains why we've never actually met time travellers.
No it doesn't. Statistically, for every universe, there must be at least several that are spawned because of time travellers.
Therefore, it's statistically unlikely we are one of the "pure" universes. Given billions of civilizations and billions of years, it's almost impossible.
Another Fermii Paradox solution
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If you send the neutron back, and it stops the first neutron from being sent, you'll now have two neutrons.
Eventually the universe would clog up with copies of matter.
It's been nice knowin' ya.
Re:From the article...
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> Oh, just an engineering problem.
Just like building a computer fast enough to play a perfect game of chess is just an engineering problem, too. Nevermind that it would require many more times matter and energy than in the universe...wait...now that time travel is possible, you can loop and have the computer check different trees on each loop.
Anyhoo, I once worked for a PhD who came up with theories (i.e. strategies to be implemented in a corporation where we worked) who stated, quite seriously, that implementation was not something he was to be bothered with.
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Think about it!
Nuclear war, rogue nanotech, rogue viruses, catastrophic physics experiments, none of these is good enough. Statistically, there must be some, viciously totalitarian regimes if nothing else, that would spread to the stars.
However, the future is a long time, and all it would take is for one person to one time send a neutron back to their planet before intelligence evolved, and BAM! Another one bites the dust.
It's so clean, too. Even if another civilization developed, that would self-destroy, too, repeating until no more evolved.
OMFG, this is the solution to the Fermii Paradox!
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Why have aliens not long since colonized the entire universe?
Because (reverse) time travel must be trivially easy for a sufficiently advanced civilization, and, regardless of policing, people over millenia in the future will jump back in time, farther and farther, until someone does something that stops the evolution of a sentient species.
As Cypher might say, "Jeeeeee-zus. What do you say to something like that?"
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> If someone in this world time travels, they > vanish FOREVER. They can never return to THIS > reality,
Wrong! Everyone gets it wrong. If they go into the past, it's YOU who vanishes forever, not them. They are just another perfectly fine conglomeration of atoms (now) in the past, unaltered. You are nothing but a memory to them, and exist in no parallel world.
Warning to researchers: A neutron sent back far enough into time will alter the course of some atom, which will alter the course of other atoms. This will build up until, some months or years down the road, the weather is different. This will (as an upper bound on the time needed) alter the copulation times of various couples, resulting in different sperm fertilizations, resulting in different humans. In short order, virtually the entire subsequent generation will be different genetic people. If this happens before you're born, you won't be, and you won't even know it.
If this happens somewhat before you think of the idea you might not think of it, and again you won't even know it.
I think, therefore I am. I still think, therefore I am. (Looks nervously about) I still think, therefore I am.
> Alright, I know tech workers tend to have > absurdly high opinions of themselves, especially > on slashdot, but EINSTEINS? That's going a bit > far, don't you think?
Worse, it's egos of "Einsteins", plural, per worker.
> This isn't really about beer stiens. This is
> really more of a prototype gimic product.
I'll say! Instead of reporting that my beer glass is low, I want the sensors reporting that my alcohol blood level is falling dangerously below 2%.
Or:
Copy (2) of Neutron
Copy (3) of Neutron
Copy (4) of Neutron
Copy (5) of Neutron
Copy (6) of Neutron
A fairly large, but cheap, Fresnel lens can reach a thousand degrees or more. Try that on Peta.
> Yes but when will they have microchips than can control the flow of beer?
I don't know about that, but AI thought experiments include a device that mimics a human brain made via buckets of water, poured. I suppose buckets of beer could work just as well keeping the brain moving along at a steady clip.
It has been pointed out that proposing the creation of a parallel universe at every possible measurement position every single time any two quantum-particles interact (think countless 10**2340980234... positions, per particle interaction per moment in time) is the ultimate violation of Occam's Razor.
And let's correct something else while we're at it:
van Damme: Hi, I'm the kickboxing champ from the 1980's.
Guy with mustache: Hi, I once went 10 rounds with Gentleman Jim Corbett.
(van Damme gets his head handed to him)
> Yes, but how many 15 year olds daydreaming in
> math class subscribe to the theory that multiple
> parallel universes exist?
Well, if memory serves correctly, I daydreamed of the parallel universe where I was porking Debbie, and the other universe where I was porking the other Debbie, and the one where I was eating out Carolyn, and the other where I was French kissing the ass of Michelle, and the one where I was pounding on my Spanish teacher, and the one...
> Which also explains why we've never actually met time travellers.
No it doesn't. Statistically, for every universe, there must be at least several that are spawned because of time travellers.
Therefore, it's statistically unlikely we are one of the "pure" universes. Given billions of civilizations and billions of years, it's almost impossible.
If you send the neutron back, and it stops the first neutron from being sent, you'll now have two neutrons.
Eventually the universe would clog up with copies of matter.
It's been nice knowin' ya.
> Oh, just an engineering problem.
Just like building a computer fast enough to play a perfect game of chess is just an engineering problem, too. Nevermind that it would require many more times matter and energy than in the universe...wait...now that time travel is possible, you can loop and have the computer check different trees on each loop.
Anyhoo, I once worked for a PhD who came up with theories (i.e. strategies to be implemented in a corporation where we worked) who stated, quite seriously, that implementation was not something he was to be bothered with.
Think about it!
Nuclear war, rogue nanotech, rogue viruses, catastrophic physics experiments, none of these is good enough. Statistically, there must be some, viciously totalitarian regimes if nothing else, that would spread to the stars.
However, the future is a long time, and all it would take is for one person to one time send a neutron back to their planet before intelligence evolved, and BAM! Another one bites the dust.
It's so clean, too. Even if another civilization developed, that would self-destroy, too, repeating until no more evolved.
Why have aliens not long since colonized the entire universe?
Because (reverse) time travel must be trivially easy for a sufficiently advanced civilization, and, regardless of policing, people over millenia in the future will jump back in time, farther and farther, until someone does something that stops the evolution of a sentient species.
As Cypher might say, "Jeeeeee-zus. What do you say to something like that?"
> If someone in this world time travels, they
> vanish FOREVER. They can never return to THIS
> reality,
Wrong! Everyone gets it wrong. If they go into the past, it's YOU who vanishes forever, not them. They are just another perfectly fine conglomeration of atoms (now) in the past, unaltered. You are nothing but a memory to them, and exist in no parallel world.
Warning to researchers: A neutron sent back far enough into time will alter the course of some atom, which will alter the course of other atoms. This will build up until, some months or years down the road, the weather is different. This will (as an upper bound on the time needed) alter the copulation times of various couples, resulting in different sperm fertilizations, resulting in different humans. In short order, virtually the entire subsequent generation will be different genetic people. If this happens before you're born, you won't be, and you won't even know it.
If this happens somewhat before you think of the idea you might not think of it, and again you won't even know it.
I think, therefore I am. I still think, therefore I am. (Looks nervously about) I still think, therefore I am.
His eyes open. His sails unfurl.
Tamalak in the garden. Tamalak under the tree.
> Well the book *says* it's targeted at managers, Yes, remember that most tech are as one with Einstein as viewed by those who think the world flat.
Along with those universes where Sandra Bullock grinds her stink into my face every night.
It's all so damned wasteful.
> Alright, I know tech workers tend to have
> absurdly high opinions of themselves, especially
> on slashdot, but EINSTEINS? That's going a bit
> far, don't you think?
Worse, it's egos of "Einsteins", plural, per worker.
> This isn't really about beer stiens. This is
> really more of a prototype gimic product.
I'll say! Instead of reporting that my beer glass is low, I want the sensors reporting that my alcohol blood level is falling dangerously below 2%.
> This isn't really about beer stiens. This is > really more of a prototype gimic product. I'll say! Instead of reporting that my beer glass is low, I want the sensors reporting that my alcohol blood level is falling dangerously below 2%.