Re:A great example of an RMS witch-hunt
on
Five Years of KDE
·
· Score: 1
No code that was the property of the FSF and was ever used in KDE, and no code that was the property of the FSF and licensed under an exception-less GPL was ever linked to by KDE.
I believe this is incorrect. What about kghostview for example?
if a user wants to incorporate my code into their commercial system, they have to buy a commercial license from Troll Tech
But you do agree that it is possible to use KDE/Qt for non-commercial/open-source projects without having to use the GPL? Something which the original post denied? BTW: I wasn't aware that the main point of BSD and LGPL licenses was to help commercial software development.
Re:praise and criticism
on
Five Years of KDE
·
· Score: 1, Insightful
The KDE/Qt licenses (GPL/commercial) restrict my ability to create open source software (say, under BSD or LGPL licenses).
Wrong. All KDE libraries are licensed under the LGPL.
Qt is actually triple-licensed: GPL/Free Qt/Commercial.
Free Qt allows development under other "open source"-licenses than GPL.
Note that the Zope license is incompatible with the GPL [gnu.org]. Something to consider before you start using it.
Did you even read the article your are responding to? To quote:
They've recently opened their CVS [zope.org] to community check-ins, and are working with RMS to make their already open-source license GPL compatable.
BTW: This incompatability really is no problem. Under what circumstances would you need GPL-compatibility of Zope?
Why does everyone bring out just Hiroshima and Nagasaki as "evil" in these examples? What about firebombing Tokyo? What about Dresden? Why are those not mentioned? [..] What about the bombing of Britain by the Germans? What about the use of bioweapons by Japan against the Chinese? The Rape of Nanking? The Holocaust?
May I remind you what claim started this sub-thread?
US has never engaged in anything as evil or unjustified as what happened on 9/11.
Most of your examples simple do not fit as a counter-argument.
But the choice was not "smart bombs" or "dumb bombs"; the choice was "do we want to use every means at our disposal to defeat the Axis Powers?" Would you rather the Allies have only fought the war half-heartedly and allowed the Nazis, Fascists, and Imperial Japanese to have conquered the world?
Get your facts straight: WWII in Europe was already over, Germany defeated - without the
use of nuclear weapons.
Most small projects does not need transactions, subqueries or locking. And to really take advantages of such features you need to have some good understanding of databases.
I'd also be very reluctant to do a major change in the stable release of any software, especially if I was the primary maintainer (like Alan Cox is for Linux).
Since when ist Alan the primary maintainer for Linux 2.4?
There is no possible way that one could ever make a parallel which was exact, because the US has never engaged in anything as evil or unjustified as what happened on 9/11.
Ja, du hast es erfolgreich in Deutsch übersetzt. Schade nur, dass alle Slashdot Leser Englisch kann! (ist ja logisch, wenn man darüber nachdenkt) (no, I didn't use Babelfish.)
At first I thought you seriously had something to offer Linux with this project, but now I see you just want people to worship you over this installer.
Oh please... he's just fed up with some of the comments here and it shows - Give him a break!
BTW: This installer is about KDE, not Linux. Since KDE is NOT a Linux-only product, all comments of the form use rpm/dpkg/apt... are strictly speaking off-topic;-)
You seem to forget that Qt is dual licensed - the QPL, which is in lots of ways less restrictive than the GPL, ist still an option to choose from. That means that you do not have to put your code under the GPL at all!
Re:Oh you good Americans, please allow us ur own p
on
FRG on W2K: No CoS
·
· Score: 1
But I don't want my government banning software based on WHO produced it without consideration of the software's content.
Well, Microsoft was asked to disclose the source code to the software in question but would not (maybe could not?) comply. Instead they now provide instructions on how to deinstall it.
Re:Why does the CEO matter that much?
on
FRG on W2K: No CoS
·
· Score: 2
I'd be more concerned about software from a company with a CoS programmer than a CoS CEO.
Do you really think the CEO won't employ CoS programmers? In fact: "In 1992 the Californian company opened an office in Hamburg. Staff was hired according to the following criteria: "Fully trained scientologists, computer skills desirable but not a prerequisite". (source)
Some very good background information can be found in this c't article from last year.
Just some quotes:
The CEO of Executive Software, Craig Jensen, is an operating Thetan at level VIII (OT VIII), the highest level scientologists can achieve currently.
Executive Software Inc. is a member of the Scientology umbrella organization WISE (World Institute of Scientology Enterprises).
Guideline 1 of WISE says to "utilize the administrative technology in every business of the world". WISE further demands: "Conquer the key positions, the position [...] as companies' director of human resources, [...] as secretary of the director, [...]. The manufacturing plants, the trade centers, the counties, these are the places where we want trained scientologists."
Scientology wants to extend the administration technologies in its enterprises, resulting in a total control of the employees, to government and society as well. Scientology engages espionage to systematically gather information about enemies and uses psychological intimidation. For this the organization is operating its own secret service called Office for Special Affairs (OSA).
According to the Stuttgarter Nachrichten (German newspaper) strictly confidential material of the State Department ended up in the OSA headquarter in Los Angeles. At the end of 1997 the Foreign Office had created an internal strategy paper that investigated "Scientology Under the Aspect of German-American Relations". The State Department brought in the Federal Intelligence Agency to identify the mole. So far without any success.
Slashdot Mirror
No code that was the property of the FSF and was ever used in KDE, and no code that was the property of the FSF and licensed under an exception-less GPL was ever linked to by KDE.
I believe this is incorrect. What about kghostview for example?
if a user wants to incorporate my code into their commercial system, they have to buy a commercial license from Troll Tech
But you do agree that it is possible to use KDE/Qt for non-commercial/open-source projects without having to use the GPL? Something which the original post denied? BTW: I wasn't aware that the main point of BSD and LGPL licenses was to help commercial software development.
The KDE/Qt licenses (GPL/commercial) restrict my ability to create open source software (say, under BSD or LGPL licenses).
Wrong. All KDE libraries are licensed under the LGPL.
Qt is actually triple-licensed: GPL/Free Qt/Commercial.
Free Qt allows development under other "open source"-licenses than GPL.
Note that the Zope license is incompatible with the GPL [gnu.org]. Something to consider before you start using it.
Did you even read the article your are responding to? To quote:
They've recently opened their CVS [zope.org] to community check-ins, and are working with RMS to make their already open-source license GPL compatable.
BTW: This incompatability really is no problem. Under what circumstances would you need GPL-compatibility of Zope?
And of course there is Mckoi.
Why does everyone bring out just Hiroshima and Nagasaki as "evil" in these examples? What about firebombing Tokyo? What about Dresden? Why are those not mentioned? [..] What about the bombing of Britain by the Germans? What about the use of bioweapons by Japan against the Chinese? The Rape of Nanking? The Holocaust?
l ?
May I remind you what claim started this sub-thread?
US has never engaged in anything as evil or unjustified as what happened on 9/11.
Most of your examples simple do not fit as a counter-argument.
BTW: Did you even read
http://www.oneworld.org/news/world/bloomfield.htm
I see no sign of an reaction to that in your answer.
But the choice was not "smart bombs" or "dumb bombs"; the choice was "do we want to use every means at our disposal to defeat the Axis Powers?" Would you rather the Allies have only fought the war half-heartedly and allowed the Nazis, Fascists, and Imperial Japanese to have conquered the world?
Get your facts straight: WWII in Europe was already over, Germany defeated - without the
use of nuclear weapons.
Most small projects does not need transactions, subqueries or locking. And to really take advantages of such features you need to have some good understanding of databases.
Lame excuse. Even SQLite
does transactions.
I'd also be very reluctant to do a major change in the stable release of any software, especially if I was the primary maintainer (like Alan Cox is for Linux).
Since when ist Alan the primary maintainer for Linux 2.4?
Mod this AC's comment up - it's dead on!
There is no possible way that one could ever make a parallel which was exact, because the US has never engaged in anything as evil or unjustified as what happened on 9/11.
Two words: Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Ja, du hast es erfolgreich in Deutsch übersetzt. Schade nur, dass alle Slashdot Leser Englisch kann! (ist ja logisch, wenn man darüber nachdenkt) (no, I didn't use Babelfish.)
Sorry, two errors!
...erfolgreich ins Deutsche...
...alle Slashdot Leser Englisch können!
;-)
Not true anymore. Comparative Ads are allowed as long as the comparison itself is fair(true).
You mean the "Render Subject Nude" feature of the upcoming Matrox Cards?
*wink*
http://www.opensource.org/press_releases/osi-clari fies-APSL.html
Your argument is flawed because the mga_hal module is used for DualHead and TV-Out support, not 3D.
The source is out there.
...and a Scotsman invented the telephone in the US
Philipp Reis was a scotsman?
Reis, Johann Philipp
The real inventor of the telephone
SCNR
At first I thought you seriously had something to offer Linux with this project, but now I see you just want people to worship you over this installer.
;-)
Oh please... he's just fed up with some of the comments here and it shows - Give him a break!
BTW: This installer is about KDE, not Linux. Since KDE is NOT a Linux-only product, all comments of the form use rpm/dpkg/apt... are strictly speaking off-topic
Nick said: "If [you're] not a newbie, or you dont like this idea, please dont talk about it"?
;-) He knows damn well that newbies are his main audience - that's why he wants to hear from them.
Maldivian said: "Your main auidence are the newbies. There is no need to say all that crap to them."
Learn to read carefully
The 1958 Movie is called "Es geschah am hellichten Tag";
there is also a television remake from 1997.
Problem is, GNOME's proprietary CORBA extensions do make it harder than necessary to interact with other ORBs.
You seem to forget that Qt is dual licensed - the QPL, which is in lots of ways less restrictive than the GPL, ist still an option to choose from. That means that you do not have to put your code under the GPL at all!
But I don't want my government banning software based on WHO produced it without consideration of the software's content.
Well, Microsoft was asked to disclose the source code to the software in question but would not (maybe could not?) comply. Instead they now provide instructions on how to deinstall it.
I'd be more concerned about software from a company with a CoS programmer than a CoS CEO.
Do you really think the CEO won't employ CoS programmers? In fact: "In 1992 the Californian company opened an office in Hamburg. Staff was hired according to the following criteria: "Fully trained scientologists, computer skills desirable but not a prerequisite". (source)
Just some quotes: