If you want to have on-demand power from a power company, you'll also need to pay for your share of the infrastructure, upgrades, customer service staff, linemen, R&D, etc.
You've got an overly optimistic view of finding them on CCTV footage.
I know it's just TV, but watch some "First 48" and see the sort of CCTV footage that police have to deal with for most of the crimes they're trying to solve.
So the air conditioner running full blast is free?
Who's the one slinging FUD now?
You.
The other poster in this thread reports a 15% reduction in mileage. We haven't seen anything that drastic -- not using the air conditioner gives us a 1-2 mile boost on 90-mile range. At most 2-3%.
The best direct compassion is Nissan's own Versa, which is still a tiny step down, and it's about $18k, not 10k.
You make up the difference in purchase price over gas easily over the expected life of the car -- a period of time during which the batteries are under warranty.
Have you actually driven a Leaf? Have you driven a Tesla?
Unless you're only looking for a muscle-car or high-speed freeway monster, it's actually a lot of fun to drive. It's quick, it handles well, it's quiet, it moves through traffic just fine.
In the interest of animal cruelty, I only eat foie gras from duck and geese that have been force-fed veal. Since it's been pointed out to me how unfair that is, I also now only eat veal that has been force-fed foie gras.
The criminal street culture already dresses the same as each other as a means of making identification (eye witness and video) more difficult.
The company that provided this "service" has sample photos and videos online. It's mostly ants marching over blobs... At the best resolutions, you can tell a car from a mini-van, and a truck from an SUV. Telling one person from another would be impossible. At best, you could follow a bank robber's get-away car.
Persistent Surveillance Systems is a company that was demoing this technology to the LAPD. They -- private company -- put their planes in the air to try to sell this technology to the LAPD.
We could *certainly* manage it better. Here in AZ, where solar is a good option (maybe, break-even is still a decade on costs, and the price of next year's system or the technology used is unknown), we've got a lot of price incentives to run laundry at off-peak hours -- numerous time-of-use payment plans, etc. etc.
Most cost conscious homes I know, even in the affluent suburbs, have reminders tacked to their laundry room doors with the summer prices and hours -- and change them out in October for the winter prices and hours.
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The generation of power isn't the only cost.
If you want to have on-demand power from a power company, you'll also need to pay for your share of the infrastructure, upgrades, customer service staff, linemen, R&D, etc.
You've got an overly optimistic view of finding them on CCTV footage.
I know it's just TV, but watch some "First 48" and see the sort of CCTV footage that police have to deal with for most of the crimes they're trying to solve.
Fortunately for me, there's 500+ chargers in my city, many of them free. YMMV.
This sounds like the beginning of a great limerick.
Numerous car magazines and consumer report-type magazines have done TCO breakdowns for the Leaf.
As long as you drive anywhere near the national averages, you save money.
Of course, it's the internet, and everyone's a special snowflake, so YMMV.
So the air conditioner running full blast is free?
Who's the one slinging FUD now?
You.
The other poster in this thread reports a 15% reduction in mileage. We haven't seen anything that drastic -- not using the air conditioner gives us a 1-2 mile boost on 90-mile range. At most 2-3%.
I did. If you think it says people are keeping cars they buy for 11+ years, then you fail miserably at reading comprehension.
Polk said the average age of all light vehicles on the road now stands at a record high of 11.4 years.
AGE OF CARS
Nothing to do with length of ownership.
People buy used cars, you idiot.
Why? His goal is neither to be right nor to educate himself -- it's to look tough on the internet.
Crazy expensive, if you're a fucking moron.
Yup, pay 11k now to never go to a gas station again.
1250/mi month (very close to the national average) costs $125/mo in a fuel efficient vehicle more than the leaf does -- that's $1500/year.
The leaf is cheaper in 7 years -- and that's not factoring the vastly cheaper maintenance schedule.
The Leaf isn't comparable to a 10k gas car.
The best direct compassion is Nissan's own Versa, which is still a tiny step down, and it's about $18k, not 10k.
You make up the difference in purchase price over gas easily over the expected life of the car -- a period of time during which the batteries are under warranty.
Have you actually driven a Leaf? Have you driven a Tesla?
Unless you're only looking for a muscle-car or high-speed freeway monster, it's actually a lot of fun to drive. It's quick, it handles well, it's quiet, it moves through traffic just fine.
*noise* and drag.
That's the average age of a car on the road. Your statement would only be true if nobody ever bought a used car.
Since people buy used cars, your assumption that MOST people own cars longer than 10 years is complete and utter bullshit.
More FUD.
You can always eat up 100 miles, staying 20 miles from home, if you drive in a circle for two hours....
But no, your 102 degree day doesn't drop your mileage by 80% -- that's straight FUD.
[n.b. I own a Leaf in Phoenix Arizona.]
Yes, the Leaf can be set to charge during off-peak hours.
...and nearly every other big city.
Horses make sense in a number of crowd management situations.
In the interest of animal cruelty, I only eat foie gras from duck and geese that have been force-fed veal. Since it's been pointed out to me how unfair that is, I also now only eat veal that has been force-fed foie gras.
Fascinating our objection to eating horse and dog, when we'll gladly eat smarter animals (pig, for one).
I presume border collie is just as tasty as elk.
Or less.
Perhaps the poster above you was advocating for fewer purebreds and more "less animals" as a result.
I watched the sample videos.
http://www.persistentsurveilla...
I'm beyond unimpressed.
The criminal street culture already dresses the same as each other as a means of making identification (eye witness and video) more difficult.
The company that provided this "service" has sample photos and videos online. It's mostly ants marching over blobs... At the best resolutions, you can tell a car from a mini-van, and a truck from an SUV. Telling one person from another would be impossible. At best, you could follow a bank robber's get-away car.
No nude sunbathing here.
http://www.persistentsurveilla...
We already know this.
Persistent Surveillance Systems is a company that was demoing this technology to the LAPD. They -- private company -- put their planes in the air to try to sell this technology to the LAPD.
It recorded everything, including the LAPD.
You aren't going to seriously argue that video looks better than film, are you?
Riddle me this then: Why are films shot on... ...film, since video is obviously better and cheaper.
Hopefully, everyone involved with the Sheriff's department will be punished as hard as legally possible and possibly harder
For what? Aerial photography without a license?
We could *certainly* manage it better. Here in AZ, where solar is a good option (maybe, break-even is still a decade on costs, and the price of next year's system or the technology used is unknown), we've got a lot of price incentives to run laundry at off-peak hours -- numerous time-of-use payment plans, etc. etc.
Most cost conscious homes I know, even in the affluent suburbs, have reminders tacked to their laundry room doors with the summer prices and hours -- and change them out in October for the winter prices and hours.