I use Konqueror every day, but there are just a few things I feel are missing. The articles didn't mention these, though.
1. I cannot seem to find any way to stop animated GIFs. Is there some buried command for this, or am I SOL?
2. It would be nice if I could put my favorite links on the menu bar, like with Navigator.
3. The bookmarks menu demands that I hold down the mouse button while swishing through my bookmark folders. If I accidentally let go, I end up with the wrong site, or all too commonly, get the "edit bookmarks" page.
4. There is noooo rule four.
5. Konqueror still croaks on various web sites. I don't know if it is the complexity, or maybe something to do with managing the color palettes. (My xterms are fixed - graphics upgrades are impossible...)
6. They did mention the loading time, but I'll still mention that it is slow. Sure, maybe my P150 was not up to snuff, but an AMD 800 with 256 MB of DDR?
Some things I like about Konqueror:
1. Rendering quality and speed are better than Navigator, in my opinion.
2. The conditional cookie and javascript (by web site) feature is awesome.
3. It's free, and has a long life ahead of it (thanks, guys!)
The USA does have cheap fuel I just filled up at $1.70/gal, which is probably higher than most places in the US. But I remember paying $1.50/gal about 15 years ago, so I guess things aren't exactly going to hell...
albeit crap cars and crap mpg, My Saturn cost about $12k four years ago, and has averaged between 40-45 MPG, depending on season. It is a solid car, and hasn't needed any repairs in the (almost) 100k miles so far, just oil, tires, and plugs. It is quiet and smooth.
and a few good TV progras (most are crap though) Most? Hmmm. Yeah, you are right there.
As far as the stem cell research goes, I think that there are too many dimwits that decide with their emotions, and poorly at that. Oooh, it's ugly, and I'm squeemish! Oooh, it's killing life. Funny, I bet few of these people have actually butchered animals for the meat they eat every day. Is that ugly? (There is no feeling quite like the first time you rip the skin off a rabbit in one big pull.) Is it killing? Yes, but so what? Living and dying is a law of nature.
Is scientific research with human cells (tissue or whatever) hurting anyone? I don't see any evidence of that. Can it help? Hell yes!
If someone can explain (without emotional crap) why this research is a detriment to the public, I would sure like to hear the reasons. If they are intelligent and compelling reasons, I could change my mind, but right now I think the reasearch should be encouraged.
They infringed a patent. They didn't steal ANYTHING.
The story I heard was that MSDOS (6.2?) actually had some Stak code in it. Could that have been just some false rumor? Sure. On the other hand, I also remember hearing about MS programmers being over-zealous in reverse engineering the Stack code. So I think it is reasonable to believe that MS really did use Stak's code.
Well, Stak had a patent on compressing data on a hard-drive. Microsoft infringed it by doing the same thing.
I have to take your side on this. The case really should have been won on copyright, not patents.
No, I don't like Microsoft. They are 'bad', but the reasons they are 'bad' are changing.
Not for me. They cannot rewrite history, and I doubt there is ANYTHING they can do to make me forget.
How about stealing from Stak? At least they got caught on that one. And you know that Central Point Software didn't have much of a choice - sell out or get killed. What about lying about compatibility between Windows and DRDOS? Yes, they intentionally caused users to have error messages when using someone else's OS.
How about their Win32s of the week jihad to break OS/2 compatibility time after time? Remember when MS flooded the OEM channels with Windows for Workgroups 3.11 at the same (or lower cost) than plain 3.1? This was another tactic to keep OS/2 compatibility difficult.
Actually, I don't really give a damn what MS has done in the last five years or so. As far as I am concerned, Netscape was just another MS toady, and got what they deserved when MS decided to win the browser market. Funny, isn't it, that MS has a habit of turning on even its best supporters...
I've read C/D for quite a while, and have found that this magazine contains the most fair and unbiased, uninfluenced views in automotive journalism. I don't even know of any publication that I've felt comes close to their level or journalistic integrity.
I would agree that Car & Driver has a decent record, but personally believe that Road & Track is better. For instance, when C/D reviewed the Lotus 47 (aka Europa), they complained that the seats were small for their fat butts. R/T simply mentioned the obvious, that the luggage compartment was barely large enough for a few hankerchiefs and a small amount of sand. Now I have set in a Europa and have a fat butt, and I can most assuredly say that it is the most comfortable sports car I have every encountered.
I would also mention that Autoweek has some good content from time to time as well. I could care less about racing, but the columnists are knowlegable and entertaining. Satch Carlson and Brock Yates are especially so.
Until a few months ago, these frequencies were prohibited, and only licensed radio stations could use this spectrum. Having such a cable to your home (dsl or power line) is like having a big powerful antenna into your home.
Good point. Considering that any meaningful bandwidth will require frequencies well into the {1,10,100+} megaherz, I wonder just how they propose to prevent the power lines from throwing off all the RF energy before it gets to its destination(s).
... and even scientists disagree...
Danger! Those words are a classic signal that some kind of agenda follows.
So aren't we pushing for radio-antennas to stay far away from our homes?
I sure don't want a 10kw transmitter in my back yard, but low power (say under 10 watts) is of no concern. So I think the answer is, "NO".
Didn't someone tell us, that having a cellular phone near our brain may cause damages?
Yes, and magnets can bring you good luck. But make sure you get the polarity right, or it will bring bad luck.
In Italy Telecom Italia doesn't install more than 2 DSL lines for each building, due to "intereference" problems. Ever tried to listen to MW or LW radio inside a radius of 5 meters from a DSL cable or DSL modem??? You hear only noise!
That is a technical issue, not health-related. In English, this is called a "red herring", meaning a statement not relevant to the argument, but made to look like it is.
I have serious doubts about whether the delivery of data over power lines will be practical. Factors include signal strength and losses, interference, and the fact that it is a shared medium (like cable modems, wireless, or satellite). It would be interesting to also look at the potential for health risks, but I would put that at the bottom of the list.
Mirroring is perfectly appropriate. As it stands, I am already unable to reach SDForum.
Agreed. In my case, the site crashes my browser[0], so it's nice to see at least the summary.
[0] Konqueror 2.1.1 using KDE 2.1.1 It's nice, but has a bad habit of choking on some sites. And it doesn't seem to have a way to stop animaged GIFs. And I still haven't figured out how to get my personal toolbar folder on the menu bar. Otherwise, it's pretty nice...
What was that Isaac Asimov novella again? Oh, yes: ``Profession''. Should be required reading for any numbnuts that proposes teaching
vendor-specific technology in schools. I hate to be a me-too, but that story has to be among the most insightful ones in recent history. I think mine is in a collection called "10 tomorrows".
Porn's good. Er, I mean for steganography that is... "I only use porn for security reasons".
As another thought, how about using TCP window pointers? You might only get a couple bits per TCP packet, but they can add up. This might be useful for key exchange, for instance. Also, there would be no lasting image (or whatever) subject to future recovery. On the other hand, you would have to watch out for proxies.
"No fair, you changed the outcome by measuring it!"
I laughed my ass off when I saw that:-) Nobody else seemed to get it, though...
Wouldn't this change some fundamental laws of nature? Whats with Einstein's relativity theory then? *dreams of FTL travel*
It would be interesting if Einstein was correct, but we found loopholes that made it irrelevant.
For instance, wouldn't it be just as good to travel to a point 1 light year away in under a year, compared to moving faster than light? They might be completely different things. Maybe we can figure out a way to increase the speed of light locally:-) Or a way to temporarily slow down the rest of the universe... Or some other "loophole" which leaves relativity intact.
I could quite easily create a Red Book-compliant audio CD that would turn many speakers into pretty confetti.
What would you call it? "Bet you can't play this CD"? Or "This CD will kill your stereo"? Or "This is one CD you CAN lend out"?
I bet you that some audiophiles would take this as a challenge, just to prove that their systems are invincible. Oops! I should have written "stereophiles"... Audiophiles listen to music, stereophiles listen to equipment.
If you think I'm joking, look up an album called "The power and the majesty". It's full of thunderstorm and train noises. Honest!
The problem with clicking links or repsonding, you just verified your a valid email address...
Not neccesarily. You could configure your domain's "default" entry in virtusertab to forward every non-valid email address to your spam parser. The parser could determine whether it has links or other spam indicators and send it to the spam responder or postmaster as appropriate.
This would have the interesting effect of making the invalid email addresses appear to be get a better response than the actual addresses...
If Microsoft or the entertainment industry were making laws, reusing old equipment would be illegal...
After all, this scavenging activity causes lost sales for new equipment and supplies. By their reasoning, recycling old gear is the same thing as theft. Of course, if they stated it that way, everyone would just laugh, so maybe they would try to couch it in terms of public safety or "the children".
Is this farfetched? Well, yes. But keep an eye on companies that want to lease you a product (from cars to computers) or license it (software, music, movies). The next step is month-to-month rental, with extra points if you become dependent on their service for your livelihood or well-being.
And it must really be cool to have a home cyclotron:-)
I always figured that it would be cute to modify a spammer's bulk mailing program so that it quietly slipped in a couple emails traceable to the spammer. Emails with threats... To high-placed politicians... That should get the wheels of justice going:-)
But I have mixed feelings about making life worse for the dumb clod that catches viruses. Yes, they deserve to be LART'ed, but going beyond that is probably stepping from justice into barbarism.
How about a virus that sends an email to the local paper, which can have a weekend insert listing all the community dumbasses?
You must be thinking of something else. The only way to reprogram the character set imagery on the Sol was to re-blow the PROM that was part of the VDM circuitry. Besides, the amount of RAM it would have taken to store the character imagery would have been ruinously expensive at the time.
I don't remember the model of the video card (S100), but it DID allow you to program the characters.
And "ruinously" expensive? Assuming 8x8 characters, 256 of them will only take up 2k, or 8 2112 chips. Even 8x16 chars would take up "only" 4k.
The SOL was quite a computer:-) I first learned 8080 assembly language on one.
Correction, machine language... I didn't have an assembler at the time, so I photocopied the 8080 instruction set page (note singlular) and went from there. One side of the page had the opcodes and the hex values, the other had the inverse so you could look up an opcode by hex value.
In the time when everyone was selling their $100 to $500 BASIC, Processor Tech gave away their "5k basic" in source code form. Imagine that:-) I still have my paper copy somewhere... Years later, I translated it into 8086 code, in case anyone is interested:-)
Yep, that was a beauty and a beast. The video card had 1k of RAM, mapped as 64x16. What's interesting about the video is that you could reprogram the character bitmaps so that you could get custom "graphics" on that screen, and a clever programmer could do FAST graphics by changing some critical character definitions at the right time.
Don't forget the Northstar floppy disk system. The disks were hard-sectored, so you couldn't just get the ones from Radio Shack to work. I had to drive to the next town to buy one - and they were $5 each at the time...
I see things like "required: 5+ years developing Linux device drivers"... What are they thinking?"
They aren't...
Technology improves, but stupidity will never die.
I remember reading job ads listing requirements including "5 years IBM PC programming experience." This was in 1984.
I was "pre-" interviewing for an embedded systems developer position at some company, and the manager said he was requiring five years of C++ experience. This was in 1992. How many programmers were using C++ in 1987? Very few.
"Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain."
Quote:...yes, the typical programmer is far to the political Right...
Reply: Odd that, all the programmers in the shop where I work are somewhere to the left of Bill Clinton.
I suggest that you are both right... er, correct. Programmers are thinking beings, and modify their viewpoints as new information and ideas are absorbed and analyzed.
First comes The Wheel of conservatism, liberalism, and totalitarianism. The programmer may spend a single cycle on the Wheel or many, and the ride may be uneven. But ride it he must.
The next stage is a move away from the wheel, a move incomprehensible to those still traveling on the wheel. This departure may take the form of libertarianism or some other similar enlightenment. The programmer will probably find this stage much more comfortable than the Wheel, and may tarry long here.
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I use Konqueror every day, but there are just a few things I feel are missing. The articles didn't mention these, though.
1. I cannot seem to find any way to stop animated GIFs. Is there some buried command for this, or am I SOL?
2. It would be nice if I could put my favorite links on the menu bar, like with Navigator.
3. The bookmarks menu demands that I hold down the mouse button while swishing through my bookmark folders. If I accidentally let go, I end up with the wrong site, or all too commonly, get the "edit bookmarks" page.
4. There is noooo rule four.
5. Konqueror still croaks on various web sites. I don't know if it is the complexity, or maybe something to do with managing the color palettes. (My xterms are fixed - graphics upgrades are impossible...)
6. They did mention the loading time, but I'll still mention that it is slow. Sure, maybe my P150 was not up to snuff, but an AMD 800 with 256 MB of DDR?
Some things I like about Konqueror:
1. Rendering quality and speed are better than Navigator, in my opinion.
2. The conditional cookie and javascript (by web site) feature is awesome.
3. It's free, and has a long life ahead of it (thanks, guys!)
The USA does have cheap fuel
I just filled up at $1.70/gal, which is probably higher than most places in the US. But I remember paying $1.50/gal about 15 years ago, so I guess things aren't exactly going to hell...
albeit crap cars and crap mpg,
My Saturn cost about $12k four years ago, and has averaged between 40-45 MPG, depending on season. It is a solid car, and hasn't needed any repairs in the (almost) 100k miles so far, just oil, tires, and plugs. It is quiet and smooth.
and a few good TV progras (most are crap though)
Most? Hmmm. Yeah, you are right there.
As far as the stem cell research goes, I think that there are too many dimwits that decide with their emotions, and poorly at that. Oooh, it's ugly, and I'm squeemish! Oooh, it's killing life. Funny, I bet few of these people have actually butchered animals for the meat they eat every day. Is that ugly? (There is no feeling quite like the first time you rip the skin off a rabbit in one big pull.) Is it killing? Yes, but so what? Living and dying is a law of nature.
Is scientific research with human cells (tissue or whatever) hurting anyone? I don't see any evidence of that. Can it help? Hell yes!
If someone can explain (without emotional crap) why this research is a detriment to the public, I would sure like to hear the reasons. If they are intelligent and compelling reasons, I could change my mind, but right now I think the reasearch should be encouraged.
NO 3D EXCEL?
Is this a new product? Somehow I just can't envision rows of desks with accountants wearing those LCD shutter 3D goggles...
"Hey, Charles! Look at these stapler depreciation figures - they just leap off the screen!"
They infringed a patent. They didn't steal ANYTHING.
The story I heard was that MSDOS (6.2?) actually had some Stak code in it. Could that have been just some false rumor? Sure. On the other hand, I also remember hearing about MS programmers being over-zealous in reverse engineering the Stack code. So I think it is reasonable to believe that MS really did use Stak's code.
Well, Stak had a patent on compressing data on a hard-drive. Microsoft infringed it by doing the same thing.
I have to take your side on this. The case really should have been won on copyright, not patents.
No, I don't like Microsoft. They are 'bad', but the reasons they are 'bad' are changing.
Not for me. They cannot rewrite history, and I doubt there is ANYTHING they can do to make me forget.
How about stealing from Stak? At least they got caught on that one. And you know that Central Point Software didn't have much of a choice - sell out or get killed. What about lying about compatibility between Windows and DRDOS? Yes, they intentionally caused users to have error messages when using someone else's OS.
How about their Win32s of the week jihad to break OS/2 compatibility time after time? Remember when MS flooded the OEM channels with Windows for Workgroups 3.11 at the same (or lower cost) than plain 3.1? This was another tactic to keep OS/2 compatibility difficult.
Actually, I don't really give a damn what MS has done in the last five years or so. As far as I am concerned, Netscape was just another MS toady, and got what they deserved when MS decided to win the browser market. Funny, isn't it, that MS has a habit of turning on even its best supporters...
I've read C/D for quite a while, and have found that this magazine contains the most fair and unbiased, uninfluenced views in automotive journalism. I don't even know of any publication that I've felt comes close to their level or journalistic integrity.
I would agree that Car & Driver has a decent record, but personally believe that Road & Track is better. For instance, when C/D reviewed the Lotus 47 (aka Europa), they complained that the seats were small for their fat butts. R/T simply mentioned the obvious, that the luggage compartment was barely large enough for a few hankerchiefs and a small amount of sand. Now I have set in a Europa and have a fat butt, and I can most assuredly say that it is the most comfortable sports car I have every encountered.
I would also mention that Autoweek has some good content from time to time as well. I could care less about racing, but the columnists are knowlegable and entertaining. Satch Carlson and Brock Yates are especially so.
Until a few months ago, these frequencies were prohibited, and only licensed radio stations could use this spectrum. Having such a cable to your home (dsl or power line) is like having a big powerful antenna into your home.
... and even scientists disagree...
Good point. Considering that any meaningful bandwidth will require frequencies well into the {1,10,100+} megaherz, I wonder just how they propose to prevent the power lines from throwing off all the RF energy before it gets to its destination(s).
Danger! Those words are a classic signal that some kind of agenda follows.
So aren't we pushing for radio-antennas to stay far away from our homes?
I sure don't want a 10kw transmitter in my back yard, but low power (say under 10 watts) is of no concern. So I think the answer is, "NO".
Didn't someone tell us, that having a cellular phone near our brain may cause damages?
Yes, and magnets can bring you good luck. But make sure you get the polarity right, or it will bring bad luck.
In Italy Telecom Italia doesn't install more than 2 DSL lines for each building, due to "intereference" problems. Ever tried to listen to MW or LW radio inside a radius of 5 meters from a DSL cable or DSL modem??? You hear only noise!
That is a technical issue, not health-related. In English, this is called a "red herring", meaning a statement not relevant to the argument, but made to look like it is.
I have serious doubts about whether the delivery of data over power lines will be practical. Factors include signal strength and losses, interference, and the fact that it is a shared medium (like cable modems, wireless, or satellite). It would be interesting to also look at the potential for health risks, but I would put that at the bottom of the list.
Mirroring is perfectly appropriate. As it stands, I am already unable to reach SDForum.
Agreed. In my case, the site crashes my browser[0], so it's nice to see at least the summary.
[0] Konqueror 2.1.1 using KDE 2.1.1 It's nice, but has a bad habit of choking on some sites. And it doesn't seem to have a way to stop animaged GIFs. And I still haven't figured out how to get my personal toolbar folder on the menu bar. Otherwise, it's pretty nice...
What was that Isaac Asimov novella again? Oh, yes: ``Profession''. Should be required reading for any numbnuts that proposes teaching
vendor-specific technology in schools.
I hate to be a me-too, but that story has to be among the most insightful ones in recent history. I think mine is in a collection called "10 tomorrows".
Not to mention that DDR RAM can still rip a person a new asshole.
Both SDRAM and DDR are dirt cheap these days. From www.crucial.com:
256 megs DDR module, $38 ($42 for ECC)
256 megs SDRAM module CAS3, $36 (add $2 for CAS2)
256 megs SDRAM module ECC, CAS2, $40
Shipping is often free (it is right now).
This is for a good brand with good warranty, too.
It's part of being Buzzword Compliance.
In past years, the buzzwords have been:
then only criminals will hide secrets in porn.
Porn's good. Er, I mean for steganography that is... "I only use porn for security reasons".
As another thought, how about using TCP window pointers? You might only get a couple bits per TCP packet, but they can add up. This might be useful for key exchange, for instance. Also, there would be no lasting image (or whatever) subject to future recovery. On the other hand, you would have to watch out for proxies.
"No fair, you changed the outcome by measuring it!"
:-) Nobody else seemed to get it, though...
:-) Or a way to temporarily slow down the rest of the universe... Or some other "loophole" which leaves relativity intact.
I laughed my ass off when I saw that
Wouldn't this change some fundamental laws of nature? Whats with Einstein's relativity theory then? *dreams of FTL travel*
It would be interesting if Einstein was correct, but we found loopholes that made it irrelevant.
For instance, wouldn't it be just as good to travel to a point 1 light year away in under a year, compared to moving faster than light? They might be completely different things. Maybe we can figure out a way to increase the speed of light locally
Don't listen to me, I am insane.
If the big Windows worm attacks Whitehouse.gov, does that mean that the big Linux worm, whenever it arrives, will attack Whitehouse.com?
No, it will first register a hotmail email account, then use that hotmail address to send stupid tech support questions to AOL and MSN.
According to Wisenut's front page, it has more pages indexed than Google. Can this be true?
Yes, but they are all "default.ida"...
I could quite easily create a Red Book-compliant audio CD that would turn many speakers into pretty confetti.
What would you call it? "Bet you can't play this CD"? Or "This CD will kill your stereo"? Or "This is one CD you CAN lend out"?
I bet you that some audiophiles would take this as a challenge, just to prove that their systems are invincible. Oops! I should have written "stereophiles"... Audiophiles listen to music, stereophiles listen to equipment.
If you think I'm joking, look up an album called "The power and the majesty". It's full of thunderstorm and train noises. Honest!
The problem with clicking links or repsonding, you just verified your a valid email address...
Not neccesarily. You could configure your domain's "default" entry in virtusertab to forward every non-valid email address to your spam parser. The parser could determine whether it has links or other spam indicators and send it to the spam responder or postmaster as appropriate.
This would have the interesting effect of making the invalid email addresses appear to be get a better response than the actual addresses...
Also, it's high time that PDFs came with their own e-mail client ...
:-)
... And a virus checker
If Microsoft or the entertainment industry were making laws, reusing old equipment would be illegal...
:-)
After all, this scavenging activity causes lost sales for new equipment and supplies. By their reasoning, recycling old gear is the same thing as theft. Of course, if they stated it that way, everyone would just laugh, so maybe they would try to couch it in terms of public safety or "the children".
Is this farfetched? Well, yes. But keep an eye on companies that want to lease you a product (from cars to computers) or license it (software, music, movies). The next step is month-to-month rental, with extra points if you become dependent on their service for your livelihood or well-being.
And it must really be cool to have a home cyclotron
I always figured that it would be cute to modify a spammer's bulk mailing program so that it quietly slipped in a couple emails traceable to the spammer. Emails with threats... To high-placed politicians... That should get the wheels of justice going :-)
But I have mixed feelings about making life worse for the dumb clod that catches viruses. Yes, they deserve to be LART'ed, but going beyond that is probably stepping from justice into barbarism.
How about a virus that sends an email to the local paper, which can have a weekend insert listing all the community dumbasses?
I buy OpenBSD twice a year. $30 + shipping every six months...
It adds up. Just from a quick count of my FreeBSD CDROM collection, I can account for at least $400 worth. Plus the $100 I just sent as a donation.
I spent maybe $80 on Win95 a few years ago, and don't plan on spending any more...
You must be thinking of something else. The only way to reprogram the character set imagery on the Sol was to re-blow the PROM that was part of the VDM circuitry. Besides, the amount of RAM it would have taken to store the character imagery would have been ruinously expensive at the time.
I don't remember the model of the video card (S100), but it DID allow you to program the characters.
And "ruinously" expensive? Assuming 8x8 characters, 256 of them will only take up 2k, or 8 2112 chips. Even 8x16 chars would take up "only" 4k.
The SOL was quite a computer :-) I first learned 8080 assembly language on one.
:-) I still have my paper copy somewhere... Years later, I translated it into 8086 code, in case anyone is interested :-)
:-)
Correction, machine language... I didn't have an assembler at the time, so I photocopied the 8080 instruction set page (note singlular) and went from there. One side of the page had the opcodes and the hex values, the other had the inverse so you could look up an opcode by hex value.
In the time when everyone was selling their $100 to $500 BASIC, Processor Tech gave away their "5k basic" in source code form. Imagine that
Yep, that was a beauty and a beast. The video card had 1k of RAM, mapped as 64x16. What's interesting about the video is that you could reprogram the character bitmaps so that you could get custom "graphics" on that screen, and a clever programmer could do FAST graphics by changing some critical character definitions at the right time.
Don't forget the Northstar floppy disk system. The disks were hard-sectored, so you couldn't just get the ones from Radio Shack to work. I had to drive to the next town to buy one - and they were $5 each at the time...
(Four Yorkshiremen can start any time now
I see things like "required: 5+ years developing Linux device drivers"... What are they thinking?"
They aren't...
Technology improves, but stupidity will never die.
I remember reading job ads listing requirements including "5 years IBM PC programming experience." This was in 1984.
I was "pre-" interviewing for an embedded systems developer position at some company, and the manager said he was requiring five years of C++ experience. This was in 1992. How many programmers were using C++ in 1987? Very few.
"Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain."
Quote: ...yes, the typical programmer is far to the political Right...
Reply: Odd that, all the programmers in the shop where I work are somewhere to the left of Bill Clinton.
I suggest that you are both right... er, correct. Programmers are thinking beings, and modify their viewpoints as new information and ideas are absorbed and analyzed.
First comes The Wheel of conservatism, liberalism, and totalitarianism. The programmer may spend a single cycle on the Wheel or many, and the ride may be uneven. But ride it he must.
The next stage is a move away from the wheel, a move incomprehensible to those still traveling on the wheel. This departure may take the form of libertarianism or some other similar enlightenment. The programmer will probably find this stage much more comfortable than the Wheel, and may tarry long here.
The final stage is, of course, The Void.