Speaking of the better & bigger nature of movies at the theater vs tv. Why do some people spend $5 to $10 to see a movie, only to sit all the way in back, even when the theater is over half empty?
I can only think of two reasons, and one I'm not shure of. The first is couples who want a little privacy. The other is I've heard Critics who get in for free are expected to sit near the back so paying customers can sit in the better seats.
If I'm paying to see a movie at the theater I want to see it BIG not tv sized.
I'm glad someone understands the point of the constitution is to protect us from both governement and the passions of the moment (tyranny of the masses). And why our founding fathers set up a constitutional REPUBLIC (with democratically selected leaders) instead of a direct democracy.
this is the second on target post I've seen I've got to figure out how to set a few things in the friends/foes/etc. part of my user page.
Minor item of note: <BLOCKQUOTE> Godwin's Law prov. [Usenet] "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." There is a tradition in many groups that, once this occurs, that thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress. Godwin's Law thus practically guarantees the existence of an upper bound on thread length in those groups. However there is also a widely- recognized codicil that any intentional triggering of Godwin's Law in order to invoke its thread-ending effects will be unsuccessful </BLOCKQUOTE>
sorry it's not a link, I dunno if it's me or slashdot but I can't get it right. probably me I am running a fever of 101 right now.
However the second part I totaly agree with, espcially about Kerry, I've heard the man lie outright and stupidly. At least Bubba is smart enough to have plausible deniability. Everyone including clinton, gore, kerry, the un, etc. 'knew' saddam had wmd's, and we have found some just not the huge stockpiles everyone expected. Not that you need stockpiles for bio-weapons, just the starter cultures we found and a little time, very little.
Since you agree thier both crooked bastards why waste a vote on them. The libertarian party could use the support.
Congress may not have explicitly declared war, but they did 'authorize the use of force' in Iraq. While one may argue that technically this might not be a declaration of war, I would argue that it's equivalent for all practical purposes.
Also one could argue that Saddams failure to honor the terms of the cease fire effectively re-instated the state of conflict that existed after he invaded Kuwait.
Still the whole thing would be better off if we had statesmen in office instead of politicians trying to play with words (like I just did,/rolls eyes at self/) for the sole purpose of spin durring thier next re-election campain.
You get a 99% agreement here. The only quible is that last line(not the sig, more later). It's not just dubya and co., it's all the bought and paid for in our government.
We really need to kick most of them out of office, except they play on joe six packs apathy and ignorance. The dems and the republicans both.
The dems try to stay in power by telling the poor they somehow magically deserve a free ride and hooking them on this free ride like a crack dealer. The republicans trade favors to big bussiness for helping with thier election and by playing on fears of 'them'.
As to your sig. yes! I first ran into the Libertarian party in 92 when G.Bush Sr. was running against Perot and Clinton. The Libertarian party had repeatedly met the ever moving target set for participation in the debates untill they were finally told 'no we won't tell you what the new criterion are unless you meet them'. Perot never met the criterion, he was 'invited'. Most likely because he had enough $$ to make them look bad if they shut him out. I participated in the demonstration at Washintong U. in Missouri that year as much out of protest on the way they were treated as in support of thier ideals.
Those Ideals are simple. Follow the constitution. If it's not in the constitution the feds have no bussiness, or authority, touching it. It even says so, despite someones sig badly mangling the tenth amendment(not picking on him, I get his point, but it's lessened by his scrambling). The ninth amendment also indirectly bears on this.
<BLOCKQUOTE> Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people. </BLOCQUOTE>
Freedom has a price, that price is responsibility, a willingness to deal with uncertantity, and somtimes 'the blood of mmartyrs and tyrants'. Not random searches and siezures, not warrents based on anonymous tips, not a million other <B>bad</B> things that we currently put up with.
Anytime a civilation needs professionals to help the common man figure out what he can and can't do in everyday life because of the complexity and volume of it's laws, it has ceased to be a civilzation and become a beuraucracy. Taxcode should fit in a pamphlet as well.
Yeah, to bad it was the betamax of floppy replacements. I installed one on my brothers computer back when they still existed and before there was a clear winner between it and zip disks. And before cd-r simply ran both down in a dark alley like a cheesy mob/spy movie;)
It had backwards compatability with floppies and more space (120meg vs 100 for zip), just didn't have the marketing. If they'd only advertised more and droped disk prices to just $1.00 or so.... oh well now we've got dvd burners and soon dual layer, then blu ray, then who knows.
While Shareaza only connects as leaves to non-g2 networks, it can still return positives to those networks for files it has.
While idealy it should be able to hub on multiple networks, it still adds to the other networks in terms of somewhat bridging across the networks for files more common on other networks.
I've seen it time and again where a search will return many results from one network, but not others. As more and more files are migrated into shareaza they become available to a wider number searchers.
The parent poster claims it doesn't create greater access to files, yet his own logic leads to the conclusion that it does. And from personal experience I can only say that I can find far more file with shareaza than any single protocal client I've tried. As far the leach argument, well that's not a necessary conclusion. While not acting as a hub for all protocals (just g2 and afaik accepting g1 clients), that's meerly an matter of implementation not necessity.
Multi-networking is fairly new to shareaza and has just come out of 'beta' with 2.0 so it's still a bit early to simply write it off for not comming out the gate with a robust collection of features to support all these networks. Now that shareaza is gpl it'll be easier for it to play nicer on these networks.
I Don't remember exactly where I heard/read this so it COULD be utter b.s., but I'm under the impression those 'dots' have nothing to do with tracking specific copies of a movie. Thier supposedly there to help syncronizing reel switches durring multi reel movies.
Now I definately remember seeing those dots back in the eigthies when the concept of a full movie on a PC was nuts. (a 486 playing a decent copy of any movie? on a <60meg hard drive?).
This seems to me to reduce the odds of it being some kind of tracking scheme. esp considering the resources necessary back then, to figure out what dots go with which release, making multiple releases etc.
No, this sort of thing has happened. Not common, but not b.s. eigther Also just look at all the cases of foster children abused,killed,neglected, etc. you hear about.
I tried googling for them breifly and only found one page for VOCAL(Victims Of Child Abuse Laws). But I once ran into some of thier literature and some of the stories were frightening. The gave reference to litigation, case files, contact info and so on for most of the stories.
While most of thier stories were about the typical parent a trying to screw parent b by making false accusations in court, some were just such occurances.
Actually there's nothing wrong with viruses, and personaly I prefer it to virii myself most of the time.
I honestly prefer 'normal' english to what is often used today. I find 'ebonics','1337' speak, 'valley' speak, and so on anoying most of the time (humor and deliberate use to make a point is usually o.k.).
However language is defined primarily through use, what is or 'ain't' a word isn't static. Nor is language subject to specic rules and procedures for it's developement and evolution. In short language just happens.
Not that I think efforts to educate people to standards of use in spoken and written language is a waste of time. Efforts to keep language reasonably consistant is import to clear communication.
Also I am certainly no saint with respect to use of grammer (believe it or not on my college placement test I qualified for honors english, but that was a few years ago) and my spelling is erratic and weak to put it kindly.
I see the primary purpose of language is communication. A polite note if I scramble my grammer is o.k., desired even if my grammar creates confusion as to my meaning. But being a grammar nazi is usually just plain stupid, especially when it's used instead of a valid argument or point of view when there is a dissagreement.
Actually language is simply what people use to communicate verbally and writen and is defined by said usage.
What determines what is a word is NOT some definition of correctness. Useage is what defines the language. So if enough people were to use virii as the plural of virus it would be so.
This is pretty much a summation of the statement a language expert and senior editor of a well known, dictionary (who's name escapes me), said during an NPR interview a few months ago.
I'm shure if you looked around you could find pleny of examples of words that started out as manipulations by a subset of the population that gained popularity and are now considered regular english.
'Hacker', for example, is one such word twice over at least. It started as a reference to people who used hand axes to make furniture. now look where that word is used.
I believe the guy who wrote Euphoria mentioned likeing lisp for it's handling of data structures.
Much of the language is based on being as simple and flexible as possible.
Though i don't think it's really a lisp decendant or clone. some things are definately different based on my limited knowledge of lisp.
Never meant to imply that the serious attention to detail alone could make a great. Polishing a turd still yields a turd. But a trully great movie almost always has the attention to detail.
Just out of curiousity. What hardware have you bought that didn't come with a driver disk?
I ger a driver disk with almost anything I buy, including basic mice and keyboards.
The only things I haven't gotten drivers for are cables and standard floppy disk drives and a few oem cd-roms.
I even got a disk with an 80meg ata hard-drive.
Also why couldn't they port the linux drivers if they really wanted? Last few times I installed a linux distro it installed all drivers I needed painlessly and I didn't go around playing buy the right hardware first game and then download the drivers that used to be the norm. And when I say painless I mean I booted the install cd, selected my options, rebooted into a fully working system. compared to windows where you re-boot 2-6 times durring install, then 1-2times for EACH driver.
And at the time my hardware wasn't 5 years old eigther.
I really don't thing that drivers are going to be a significant problem.
Mostly I agree with your points. Especially about a driver compatability layer.
I honestly think one of the best outcomes of this project is the knowledge and tools gained that can make Linux a more attractive target for developers, or at least an easy port target. Getting the software on open/free software is a significant hurdle to mass consumer acceptance (assuming that matters to you) and making it easier to devlop/port and run would a major plus in that regard.
As far a rigging office is concerned. well it already runs on non ms os's so the longer that's true the less likely it seems they will. But to be honest there is no telling when or if they'll decide to booby-trap it. Maybe a mostly working ms-os clone will be that straw. Of course some people will be looking for it so in theory it could backfire on them. Wouldn't bet on it though.
Most of the world is on dialup. This includes alot of hackers. and some opensource contributors are kinda poor and don't have home networks, Mine is Two computers right now. and I'm stuck on dialup. and other that briefly using slip (early 95 iirc, only 1 isp in town at the time and thats all they used first 3 months) I've been on nothing but ppp.
Oh and you don't have to be 'leet' to code, even on the big opensource projects. You just have to be able to code. That's the strength of open source anyone can spot somthing, anyone can write an answer. True 'leetness' (skill talent and experience) increase your versitility and odds of comming up with somthing really cool, but even the HURD and GCC and Linux need that four line patch to swap some bytes around on some obscure file format or device driver.
Don't buy into myth of 'leet' or 'real' hackers as all fitting some stereotype or other, that's hollywood talking. They fall into the same general mix of poor and rich and so on as anyone else.
Wine the point is to create a windows clone. Wine has some of that functionality, but depends on Linux/bsd/unixy stuff to work.
What wine already has would be usefull in the NON-UNIX environment they a building.
Now thier choices are to a) remove the dependancies on *nix from wine, somthing mingw helps with. b) recreate everything usefull in wine from scratch (re-invent the wheel) c) add a unix emulator for an nt workalike that will support wine so that thier running a windows workalike on a unix workalike on windows workalike.
PPP really isn't all that useful anymore in case you haven't been paying attention.
Huh? how do you figure the method most people use to connect to the internet isn't all that usefull.
Don't tell me you think most people have slip or adsl or home oc3's.
As an aside, an implentation of Conway's Life was the first non-trivial program I ever wrote.
Would have been 84 or 85 while I was still in highschool.
It was writing in basic on a commodore64. ahhh fond memories.
Eventually the birth and death rules as well as the graphics for cells could be user set as well as patterns saved and loaded.
What I was trying to find out is if a picard topology could be the reason why 6(or 7) diminsions was so small.
I think just about everyones' understanding is a bit primitive compared to the likes of Hawking,Michou(sp?),Greene,Thorn, and a few others.
I'll have to look for Greene's books, I rather liked Hawkings books and few others I've read.
Most of the basic stuff I can follow about as well as anyone can w/o the math/physics skills needed to study the actuall theory. But I hadn't heard much about the picard topology and was curious about the fact that it can shrink some dimensions near the one extreem and just wondered if we might be near such and thus the shrunken dimension of the string theory. It seems if topology changes slow enough it seems possible that the horizon (13.7 ly), or even the measured min size of the universe, might be to far away for us to readily measure any differences related to it. Or at least not sofar.
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Speaking of the better & bigger nature of movies at the theater vs tv. Why do some people spend $5 to $10 to see a movie, only to sit all the way in back, even when the theater is over half empty?
I can only think of two reasons, and one I'm not shure of. The first is couples who want a little privacy. The other is I've heard Critics who get in for free are expected to sit near the back so paying customers can sit in the better seats.
If I'm paying to see a movie at the theater I want to see it BIG not tv sized.
Mycroft
Well said.
I'm glad someone understands the point of the constitution is to protect us from both governement and the passions of the moment (tyranny of the masses). And why our founding fathers set up a constitutional REPUBLIC (with democratically selected leaders) instead of a direct democracy.
this is the second on target post I've seen
I've got to figure out how to set a few things in the friends/foes/etc. part of my user page.
Minor item of note:
o dwin_s_La w.html
<BLOCKQUOTE>
Godwin's Law prov. [Usenet] "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." There is a tradition in many groups that, once this occurs, that thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress. Godwin's Law thus practically guarantees the existence of an upper bound on thread length in those groups. However there is also a widely- recognized codicil that any intentional triggering of Godwin's Law in order to invoke its thread-ending effects will be unsuccessful
</BLOCKQUOTE>
From:
http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/g/G
sorry it's not a link, I dunno if it's me or slashdot but I can't get it right. probably me I am running a fever of 101 right now.
However the second part I totaly agree with, espcially about Kerry, I've heard the man lie outright and stupidly. At least Bubba is smart enough to have plausible deniability. Everyone including clinton, gore, kerry, the un, etc. 'knew' saddam had wmd's, and we have found some just not the huge stockpiles everyone expected. Not that you need stockpiles for bio-weapons, just the starter cultures we found and a little time, very little.
Since you agree thier both crooked bastards why waste a vote on them. The libertarian party could use the support.
Mycroft
Congress may not have explicitly declared war, but they did 'authorize the use of force' in Iraq. While one may argue that technically this might not be a declaration of war, I would argue that it's equivalent for all practical purposes. /rolls eyes at self/) for the sole purpose of spin durring thier next re-election campain.
Also one could argue that Saddams failure to honor the terms of the cease fire effectively re-instated the state of conflict that existed after he invaded Kuwait.
Still the whole thing would be better off if we had statesmen in office instead of politicians trying to play with words (like I just did,
Mycroft
Mycroft
Actually you don't even need a gun, just say you have one and keep a hand in a pocket.
I don't think there was a fake bio-weapon or even the pretense of one though.
Mycroft
You get a 99% agreement here. The only quible is that last line(not the sig, more later). It's not just dubya and co., it's all the bought and paid for in our government.
We really need to kick most of them out of office, except they play on joe six packs apathy and ignorance. The dems and the republicans both.
The dems try to stay in power by telling the poor they somehow magically deserve a free ride and hooking them on this free ride like a crack dealer. The republicans trade favors to big bussiness for helping with thier election and by playing on fears of 'them'.
As to your sig. yes! I first ran into the Libertarian party in 92 when G.Bush Sr. was running against Perot and Clinton. The Libertarian party had repeatedly met the ever moving target set for participation in the debates untill they were finally told 'no we won't tell you what the new criterion are unless you meet them'. Perot never met the criterion, he was 'invited'. Most likely because he had enough $$ to make them look bad if they shut him out. I participated in the demonstration at Washintong U. in Missouri that year as much out of protest on the way they were treated as in support of thier ideals.
Those Ideals are simple. Follow the constitution. If it's not in the constitution the feds have no bussiness, or authority, touching it. It even says so, despite someones sig badly mangling the tenth amendment(not picking on him, I get his point, but it's lessened by his scrambling). The ninth amendment also indirectly bears on this.
<BLOCKQUOTE>
Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
</BLOCQUOTE>
Freedom has a price, that price is responsibility, a willingness to deal with uncertantity, and somtimes 'the blood of mmartyrs and tyrants'. Not random searches and siezures, not warrents based on anonymous tips, not a million other <B>bad</B> things that we currently put up with.
Anytime a civilation needs professionals to help the common man figure out what he can and can't do in everyday life because of the complexity and volume of it's laws, it has ceased to be a civilzation and become a beuraucracy. Taxcode should fit in a pamphlet as well.
Mycroft
Yeah, to bad it was the betamax of floppy replacements. I installed one on my brothers computer back when they still existed and before there was a clear winner between it and zip disks. And before cd-r simply ran both down in a dark alley like a cheesy mob/spy movie;)
It had backwards compatability with floppies and more space (120meg vs 100 for zip), just didn't have the marketing. If they'd only advertised more and droped disk prices to just $1.00 or so.... oh well now we've got dvd burners and soon dual layer, then blu ray, then who knows.
Mycroft
While Shareaza only connects as leaves to non-g2 networks, it can still return positives to those networks for files it has.
While idealy it should be able to hub on multiple networks, it still adds to the other networks in terms of somewhat bridging across the networks for files more common on other networks.
I've seen it time and again where a search will return many results from one network, but not others. As more and more files are migrated into shareaza they become available to a wider number searchers.
The parent poster claims it doesn't create greater access to files, yet his own logic leads to the conclusion that it does. And from personal experience I can only say that I can find far more file with shareaza than any single protocal client I've tried. As far the leach argument, well that's not a necessary conclusion. While not acting as a hub for all protocals (just g2 and afaik accepting g1 clients), that's meerly an matter of implementation not necessity.
Multi-networking is fairly new to shareaza and has just come out of 'beta' with 2.0 so it's still a bit early to simply write it off for not comming out the gate with a robust collection of features to support all these networks. Now that shareaza is gpl it'll be easier for it to play nicer on these networks.
Mycroft
I Don't remember exactly where I heard/read this so it COULD be utter b.s., but I'm under the impression those 'dots' have nothing to do with tracking specific copies of a movie. Thier supposedly there to help syncronizing reel switches durring multi reel movies.
Now I definately remember seeing those dots back in the eigthies when the concept of a full movie on a PC was nuts. (a 486 playing a decent copy of any movie? on a <60meg hard drive?).
This seems to me to reduce the odds of it being some kind of tracking scheme. esp considering the resources necessary back then, to figure out what dots go with which release, making multiple releases etc.
Mycroft
No, this sort of thing has happened. Not common, but not b.s. eigther
Also just look at all the cases of foster children abused,killed,neglected, etc. you hear about.
I tried googling for them breifly and only found one page for VOCAL(Victims Of Child Abuse Laws). But I once ran into some of thier literature and some of the stories were frightening. The gave reference to litigation, case files, contact info and so on for most of the stories.
While most of thier stories were about the typical parent a trying to screw parent b by making false accusations in court, some were just such occurances.
Mycroft
Ouch. If possible this both +3 funny and +9 firghtning.
If not possible just +4funny
Mycroft
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gotta agree with the mods here, amusingly enough.
Mycroft
Actually there's nothing wrong with viruses, and personaly I prefer it to virii myself most of the time.
I honestly prefer 'normal' english to what is often used today. I find 'ebonics','1337' speak, 'valley' speak, and so on anoying most of the time (humor and deliberate use to make a point is usually o.k.).
However language is defined primarily through use, what is or 'ain't' a word isn't static. Nor is language subject to specic rules and procedures for it's developement and evolution. In short language just happens.
Not that I think efforts to educate people to standards of use in spoken and written language is a waste of time. Efforts to keep language reasonably consistant is import to clear communication.
Also I am certainly no saint with respect to use of grammer (believe it or not on my college placement test I qualified for honors english, but that was a few years ago) and my spelling is erratic and weak to put it kindly.
I see the primary purpose of language is communication. A polite note if I scramble my grammer is o.k., desired even if my grammar creates confusion as to my meaning. But being a grammar nazi is usually just plain stupid, especially when it's used instead of a valid argument or point of view when there is a dissagreement.
Mycroft
Actually language is simply what people use to communicate verbally and writen and is defined by said usage.
What determines what is a word is NOT some definition of correctness. Useage is what defines the language. So if enough people were to use virii as the plural of virus it would be so.
This is pretty much a summation of the statement a language expert and senior editor of a well known, dictionary (who's name escapes me), said during an NPR interview a few months ago.
I'm shure if you looked around you could find pleny of examples of words that started out as manipulations by a subset of the population that gained popularity and are now considered regular english.
'Hacker', for example, is one such word twice over at least. It started as a reference to people who used hand axes to make furniture.
now look where that word is used.
Mycroft
I believe the guy who wrote Euphoria mentioned likeing lisp for it's handling of data structures.
Much of the language is based on being as simple and flexible as possible.
Though i don't think it's really a lisp decendant or clone. some things are definately different based on my limited knowledge of lisp.
Mycroft
Well if Grene's books are a better read than Hawkings I will definate enjoy them, I found Hawkings books a pretty good read themselves.
Mycroft
I assume your jokeing, but just in case I was refering to the midget/dwarf stand-ins for the Elijah and co.
Mycroft
Never meant to imply that the serious attention to detail alone could make a great. Polishing a turd still yields a turd. But a trully great movie almost always has the attention to detail.
Mycroft
Just out of curiousity. What hardware have you bought that didn't come with a driver disk?
I ger a driver disk with almost anything I buy, including basic mice and keyboards.
The only things I haven't gotten drivers for are cables and standard floppy disk drives and a few oem cd-roms.
I even got a disk with an 80meg ata hard-drive.
Also why couldn't they port the linux drivers if they really wanted? Last few times I installed a linux distro it installed all drivers I needed painlessly and I didn't go around playing buy the right hardware first game and then download the drivers that used to be the norm. And when I say painless I mean I booted the install cd, selected my options, rebooted into a fully working system. compared to windows where you re-boot 2-6 times durring install, then 1-2times for EACH driver.
And at the time my hardware wasn't 5 years old eigther.
I really don't thing that drivers are going to be a significant problem.
Mycroft
Mostly I agree with your points. Especially about a driver compatability layer.
I honestly think one of the best outcomes of this project is the knowledge and tools gained that can make Linux a more attractive target for developers, or at least an easy port target. Getting the software on open/free software is a significant hurdle to mass consumer acceptance (assuming that matters to you) and making it easier to devlop/port and run would a major plus in that regard.
As far a rigging office is concerned. well it already runs on non ms os's so the longer that's true the less likely it seems they will. But to be honest there is no telling when or if they'll decide to booby-trap it. Maybe a mostly working ms-os clone will be that straw. Of course some people will be looking for it so in theory it could backfire on them. Wouldn't bet on it though.
Mycroft
Most of the world is on dialup. This includes alot of hackers. and some opensource contributors are kinda poor and don't have home networks, Mine is Two computers right now. and I'm stuck on dialup. and other that briefly using slip (early 95 iirc, only 1 isp in town at the time and thats all they used first 3 months) I've been on nothing but ppp.
Oh and you don't have to be 'leet' to code, even on the big opensource projects. You just have to be able to code. That's the strength of open source anyone can spot somthing, anyone can write an answer. True 'leetness' (skill talent and experience) increase your versitility and odds of comming up with somthing really cool, but even the HURD and GCC and Linux need that four line patch to swap some bytes around on some obscure file format or device driver.
Don't buy into myth of 'leet' or 'real' hackers as all fitting some stereotype or other, that's hollywood talking. They fall into the same general mix of poor and rich and so on as anyone else.
Mycroft
Wine the point is to create a windows clone. Wine has some of that functionality, but depends on Linux/bsd/unixy stuff to work.
What wine already has would be usefull in the NON-UNIX environment they a building.
Now thier choices are to
a) remove the dependancies on *nix from wine, somthing mingw helps with.
b) recreate everything usefull in wine from scratch (re-invent the wheel)
c) add a unix emulator for an nt workalike that will support wine so that thier running a windows workalike on a unix workalike on windows workalike.
Which do you think is thier best option.
Mycroft
Huh? how do you figure the method most people use to connect to the internet isn't all that usefull.
Don't tell me you think most people have slip or adsl or home oc3's.
Mycroft
As an aside, an implentation of Conway's Life was the first non-trivial program I ever wrote.
Would have been 84 or 85 while I was still in highschool.
It was writing in basic on a commodore64. ahhh fond memories.
Eventually the birth and death rules as well as the graphics for cells could be user set as well as patterns saved and loaded.
Mycroft
What I was trying to find out is if a picard topology could be the reason why 6(or 7) diminsions was so small.
I think just about everyones' understanding is a bit primitive compared to the likes of Hawking,Michou(sp?),Greene,Thorn, and a few others.
I'll have to look for Greene's books, I rather liked Hawkings books and few others I've read.
Most of the basic stuff I can follow about as well as anyone can w/o the math/physics skills needed to study the actuall theory. But I hadn't heard much about the picard topology and was curious about the fact that it can shrink some dimensions near the one extreem and just wondered if we might be near such and thus the shrunken dimension of the string theory. It seems if topology changes slow enough it seems possible that the horizon (13.7 ly), or even the measured min size of the universe, might be to far away for us to readily measure any differences related to it. Or at least not sofar.
Mycroft