Lets face it, there isn't that many people around who make bug free code in the first go. Granted it is possible, theres even certain language where you can proove the correctness of your program, but still...
Ohh and who gets to say if it's a bug or a feature? And how do you distinguish between what _your_ program caused and what the hell the client PC was infected with?
And $390 too expensive? Granted you guys in america get your stuff cheaper than we do here, but we usually hand over more than that for our standard workstations.
This solution would be less expensive in the long run, no need for extra security measures to make sure theives won't run off with the machine, no more "I know you said use the P:\ drive, but I used C:\ instead, and now everything is gone". On top of that alot less goofing off with solitaire etc. - granted that can be fixed in the current enviroment, but with these babies everything gets easier to manage.
As a Computer Science student I totally agree with you - however, VB and programs like it is somewhat hard for me to figure out - not because of the language, it's just a c variant (ie c#), but the IDE is somewhat unfamiliar to me, it's a different way of thinking, I like using ion, vim and some linux variant for developing. Granted that makes me somewhat insane, but thats just what I've been playing with so far.
I do however have the full MS suite installed (legal! MSDNAA is a very nice program) and plan on finding some time soon to have a go at the IDE.
Oh and do remember to wipe the drives before smashing them - I personally use a live cd and:
dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda
Remember to umount the drive first though:-)
Re:The Register's new market: tabloids
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Uhm.. what?
They just reported it as it is, someone claims to have been cheated out of a working laptop, now he has posted stuff from it on the net and gets himself looked into by the police... Oh and theres a website for you to look at.
Why is that not proper reporting? They don't even take sides - which is highly unusual for The Reg.
Well, I would trust my code with my live, and I do so on a regular basis, it does pay for my living after all... However, I would _NEVER_ program anything to keep a person a live under the conditions I usually work (stressed out, insane deadlines et al.)
But where does documentation enter? Documenting doesn't remove bugs, it helps locate what part of the system might be an error, but://This checks if auto_pilot is on if(auto_pilot = 0){...something... }else{...something other very critical... } this even got a comment, but within lets say, 2 million lines of code, thats going to be very hard to spot - and what if that single line ended up in some obscure part that would only be kicked in under the most extreme circumstances? Like another plane entering your path during takeoff on a foggy day.
1. you assume power is free, leaving machines running over the weekend costs alot of money, 1kW around here is about 2DKR. 2. Leaving computers running unattended is a fire waiting to happen. 3. See the part where I say you can't dismiss it? I'm pretty sure the IT department can't do jack shit about that.
When Sophos is running, it's _running_ - you don't have a say against it (I got local administrator priviledges, and I don't have the power to make it go away)
Sophos is probably one of the most annoying AV programs I've tried. For some insane reason it has to do it's virus scans each day - and during work hours. You cant dismiss it and it keeps getting focus from windows, that means during the 3-5 minuttes it's scanning I can't do anything.
(This is on a corporate network, I haven't got anything to do with how/why it's running )
What happens when the system breaks down and the consumer buys a new one because it's out of warranty? Or if on warranty, do they remember to set everything right?
You know, it's in the book for good reasons, back then (and still are) were some killer diseases you could get off pork.
I don't eat pork, not because of the "risks" (just clean up the stuff you use and cook everything through) nor because of some book, but because it tastes bad.
Just try to remember when you eat sausage: Theres nothing like minceing up an animal and stuff it into it's own intestines.
I have never released anything open source, and unless a company I work for decides to go open source, I'm not going to do it either.
I rarely code for my own pleasure, for me coding is something you get paid for*, what happens to the code is none of my concern.
About the HCI - theres a shitload of articles to be read - around 100 pages a week all written in secondary language (english), but passing the course is fairly simple, you just need to use your intuition and go for constructive critisism. HCI is a very soft course, you can basically say anything you wan't as long as you can argue why it is true. Algorithms, architecture, compiler etc. courses are more dependent on being "correct".
Since the customer is always right, the customer has to know what security problems means - and why he/she should care.
In my experience, moveing a piece of graphics one pixel has way more priority for a customer than to fix an SQL injection problem, and since the company developing the software gets money for moving the graphics around, but not for fixing the bug - guess what I'm being told to do...
One of the sibling posts talks about how he didn't have to study for his exams and he finds that important since you have to know your stuff when coding in real life...
Riiiiight. Passing algorithms here at DIKU (Denmark) you have to know just about all the proofs in the book - the exam is oral, and the prof. is one mean bastard (sorry pawell:)). Almost all courses are extremely hard to pass (we have some courses in HCI and you can sleepwalk those)
In real life you don't need to know the proofs, but you sure as hell need to know that they exists and what they do.
Sorry to say this, but if you can pass the exams in US without studying then they should be glad to be represented at all!
What I really love about vim is that no matter what obscure language I might end up writing in during my computer science studies, there always seem to be a syntax highligt setting for vim. Last new language I did was Occam, and vim even knew about the obscure indenting of Occam. I'm sooooo looking forward to play with the new vim.
So why is it ok for you to browse around (slashdot etc) or use msn, but not ok for someone to surf porno?
Re:Chinese counterfits are excellent
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Actually alot of "pirated" stuff is the real deal, the dealers in China just go have a chat with the foreman of the factory makeing the real stuff and asks for a few crates (thats the penalty you get from outsourcing production - try get a pirated B&O television*).
It's just like crackin, theres no point in bruteforcing the solution, when you can go have a chat with the middleman and have him supply it.
*I'm not sure of their status any longer, but they used to be produced in Denmark.
I actually tried to read Digital Fortress, but when he got to talking about the 3 <doctor_evil_pinky_in_mouth> million </doctor_evil_pinky_in_mouth> cpu supercomputer that could break 64 bit codes in 12 minuttes I just gave up.
One should stick to fiction outside the field you work in.
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Was thinking the exact same thing.
Lets face it, there isn't that many people around who make bug free code in the first go. Granted it is possible, theres even certain language where you can proove the correctness of your program, but still...
Ohh and who gets to say if it's a bug or a feature? And how do you distinguish between what _your_ program caused and what the hell the client PC was infected with?
Still need the PSU.
And $390 too expensive? Granted you guys in america get your stuff cheaper than we do here, but we usually hand over more than that for our standard workstations.
This solution would be less expensive in the long run, no need for extra security measures to make sure theives won't run off with the machine, no more "I know you said use the P:\ drive, but I used C:\ instead, and now everything is gone". On top of that alot less goofing off with solitaire etc. - granted that can be fixed in the current enviroment, but with these babies everything gets easier to manage.
I'd go for them.
Totally agree, most of the people that work where I work don't need anything more powerfull.
Only drawback as I see it is when the terminal server goes.. well terminal, everything grinds to a halt.
As a Computer Science student I totally agree with you - however, VB and programs like it is somewhat hard for me to figure out - not because of the language, it's just a c variant (ie c#), but the IDE is somewhat unfamiliar to me, it's a different way of thinking, I like using ion, vim and some linux variant for developing. Granted that makes me somewhat insane, but thats just what I've been playing with so far.
I do however have the full MS suite installed (legal! MSDNAA is a very nice program) and plan on finding some time soon to have a go at the IDE.
Microwaveing cd-roms is dangerous isn't it?
:-)
Oh and do remember to wipe the drives before smashing them - I personally use a live cd and:
dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda
Remember to umount the drive first though
Uhm.. what?
They just reported it as it is, someone claims to have been cheated out of a working laptop, now he has posted stuff from it on the net and gets himself looked into by the police... Oh and theres a website for you to look at.
Why is that not proper reporting? They don't even take sides - which is highly unusual for The Reg.
Wheres the fun in that?
:-)
Then you woulndt be allowed to do stuff like:
while(foo = some->next.next);
Well, I would trust my code with my live, and I do so on a regular basis, it does pay for my living after all... However, I would _NEVER_ program anything to keep a person a live under the conditions I usually work (stressed out, insane deadlines et al.)
//This checks if auto_pilot is on ...something... ...something other very critical...
But where does documentation enter? Documenting doesn't remove bugs, it helps locate what part of the system might be an error, but:
if(auto_pilot = 0){
}else{
}
this even got a comment, but within lets say, 2 million lines of code, thats going to be very hard to spot - and what if that single line ended up in some obscure part that would only be kicked in under the most extreme circumstances? Like another plane entering your path during takeoff on a foggy day.
1. you assume power is free, leaving machines running over the weekend costs alot of money, 1kW around here is about 2DKR.
2. Leaving computers running unattended is a fire waiting to happen.
3. See the part where I say you can't dismiss it? I'm pretty sure the IT department can't do jack shit about that.
When Sophos is running, it's _running_ - you don't have a say against it (I got local administrator priviledges, and I don't have the power to make it go away)
Sophos is probably one of the most annoying AV programs I've tried. For some insane reason it has to do it's virus scans each day - and during work hours. You cant dismiss it and it keeps getting focus from windows, that means during the 3-5 minuttes it's scanning I can't do anything.
(This is on a corporate network, I haven't got anything to do with how/why it's running )
Wonder if they have thought that through...
What happens when the system breaks down and the consumer buys a new one because it's out of warranty? Or if on warranty, do they remember to set everything right?
"And as a side note.... most engineers DON'T make 6-figure salaries unless they are very senior."
That depends on the currency, most engineers around here make 6-figure salaries...
You know, it's in the book for good reasons, back then (and still are) were some killer diseases you could get off pork.
I don't eat pork, not because of the "risks" (just clean up the stuff you use and cook everything through) nor because of some book, but because it tastes bad.
Just try to remember when you eat sausage: Theres nothing like minceing up an animal and stuff it into it's own intestines.
Actually no.
I have never released anything open source, and unless a company I work for decides to go open source, I'm not going to do it either.
I rarely code for my own pleasure, for me coding is something you get paid for*, what happens to the code is none of my concern.
About the HCI - theres a shitload of articles to be read - around 100 pages a week all written in secondary language (english), but passing the course is fairly simple, you just need to use your intuition and go for constructive critisism. HCI is a very soft course, you can basically say anything you wan't as long as you can argue why it is true. Algorithms, architecture, compiler etc. courses are more dependent on being "correct".
*Or is used for getting a grade
Since the customer is always right, the customer has to know what security problems means - and why he/she should care.
In my experience, moveing a piece of graphics one pixel has way more priority for a customer than to fix an SQL injection problem, and since the company developing the software gets money for moving the graphics around, but not for fixing the bug - guess what I'm being told to do...
One of the sibling posts talks about how he didn't have to study for his exams and he finds that important since you have to know your stuff when coding in real life...
:)). Almost all courses are extremely hard to pass (we have some courses in HCI and you can sleepwalk those)
Riiiiight. Passing algorithms here at DIKU (Denmark) you have to know just about all the proofs in the book - the exam is oral, and the prof. is one mean bastard (sorry pawell
In real life you don't need to know the proofs, but you sure as hell need to know that they exists and what they do.
Sorry to say this, but if you can pass the exams in US without studying then they should be glad to be represented at all!
Indeed, but thats not what I wanted - I can do :sh for that.
What I want is a buffer like the one emacs have.
set pastetoggle=
When in insert mode just hit F9 and it switches to paste mode. F9 again and you are back to normal insert.
Possibly the guy writing the software isn't using US layout on his keyboard?
My 105 Danish keyboard has , and ; on one button and . : on another so both ; and : needs shift - and I find it easier to hit : than ; on my keyboard.
One thing I really think is missing in Vim is a build in terminal buffer.
The reason why I ended up with vim was that it was what my friends used back when I first started using unix/linux.
I've tried learning emacs since, but my hands just aren't build for the key sequences.
Well said.
What I really love about vim is that no matter what obscure language I might end up writing in during my computer science studies, there always seem to be a syntax highligt setting for vim. Last new language I did was Occam, and vim even knew about the obscure indenting of Occam. I'm sooooo looking forward to play with the new vim.
So why is it ok for you to browse around (slashdot etc) or use msn, but not ok for someone to surf porno?
Actually alot of "pirated" stuff is the real deal, the dealers in China just go have a chat with the foreman of the factory makeing the real stuff and asks for a few crates (thats the penalty you get from outsourcing production - try get a pirated B&O television*).
It's just like crackin, theres no point in bruteforcing the solution, when you can go have a chat with the middleman and have him supply it.
*I'm not sure of their status any longer, but they used to be produced in Denmark.
One word: He is trolling (ok, 3 words)
So true.
I actually tried to read Digital Fortress, but when he got to talking about the 3 <doctor_evil_pinky_in_mouth> million </doctor_evil_pinky_in_mouth> cpu supercomputer that could break 64 bit codes in 12 minuttes I just gave up.
One should stick to fiction outside the field you work in.