You and the sibling totally misses the point - Even if the serials are only a small percentage of the keyspace you still have to go through it all to get the right checksums, and even if you do a check on thousends of keys it would mean nothing.
Try the math where each machine does a billion checks a second and still on a botnet with 1,5 million PC's, searching the entire keyspace still takes more time than you got. Heck, take every bloody machine ever produced and put it into a botnet, you still end up using more time than you got - or the earth for that matter.
Lets see, a serial is what, 24 characters? And lets assume we got something in the order of 37 possibilities per character, that would make a keyspace of 24^37, that is a very very big number, you just don't go bruteforce your way through that...
And just to top it off, lets assume you got access to the largest "known" bot net, that would be 1,5 million PC's, and with 50 keys per second that would make it 75 million keys per second - so 24^37/(75*10^6), according to my calculater that would leave you with 1,5*10^43 seconds to run through, or 4,9*10^35 years to do.
Be advised, I'm a bit sleepy so the calculations might be a wee bit off, but the point still holds, you simply cannot bruteforce it.
Or perhaps they are saying, people know we are good, we don't have to have some low IQ bimbo hopping around nakkid to sell our stuff?
I have been with AMD since they were known for being very hot running cpus, and never had any problems with them that wasn't directly related to me abusing the CPU (ie. dropping a heatsink on the core because I had greasy hands), probably never gonna buy me an Intel *jingle* because AMD shows they are good.
Lets not forget Intels decision to handle interrupts and exceptions the same way (flush the pipeline) on x86 architecture. A 4Ghz x86 with a 1Gbit NIC is going to spend alot of it's time flushing those 34 or so stages because it keeps getting interrupted.
We got something just like it here in Denmark, where the politicians are trying to force ISP's to be able to show all emails that have been sent and on top of that be able to show who did what when. In our case it's the terrorism that got them worked up, but won't be long before somebody yells "think of the children!"
Whats the point in doing it? I mean, theres alot of anonymizing software out there, some of it is even fairly easy to install - so what you get is the average citizen is being watched for every bad move they MIGHT make, but the criminals/perverts still think of it as buissnes as usual.
You do realise that some things simply take a certain amount of time and no matter how much money or how many people you throw at the problem they will not get done any quicker, don't you?
If only people would realize that, especially managers. "Ohh so you need x hours to do that? Well I'll just go call this helper for y hours, then you only need x-y hours, so we'll ship on friday"... Glad I'm not doing that anymore. Incidently, we did have a few issues with the patch, but what it revealed for us isn't that there might be a problem with MS patches, but that theres a big problem with testing at our facility before rolling out patches.
MS might screw up, but it's our job to make sure that what they give us works before we roll it out.
I do once in a while get a good laugh when I use a friends machine and he hasn't got adblock, entering a new site plastered in ads, my first reaction - wah? where did the page go? Then I realise whats going on and find what I was looking for, the brain is amazing at filtering...
On a slightly different topic, back in the days when I watched TV on the regular network, I would actually watch the commercials because they where fun and catchy, now they seem to be braindead zombies all over - and on top of that, they cut in every bloody 5 minuttes or so! I've not stopped watching the shows, just stopped doing it legally, the legal way is when you get to pay for shows that are 2-3 seasons behind the US - and on top of that get to watch commercials... well blow that, downloading them from the net gets me the newest episodes and alows me to watch them in my own time.
Yes it's illegal, but I'm voting with my money (sort of). Give me what I wan't when I wan't, and then Ill be glad to pay. (A good example, scrubs aired a few nights ago, I could download it from the net in less than 12 minuttes, and I could watch it when I had the time, the legal way would be to wait for season 4 to finish on the late night runs (reruns at 6 o'clock in the morning) and then wait some more for season 5 to get here)
Some think it's funny, but you know what? The main reason why I use adblocking software is the adservers are f***ing slow! The whole site hangs while the browser waits for the servers to get around to responding to the request.
If they want to make sure we watch the adds then dump them in the image dir ON THEIR OWN SERVERS! that way everything gets same speed and I wouldn't care, my brain filters out all the ads anyways.
It has to do with what you are used to, back in the days I was using 60hz and thought it was just fine. Then one day someone changed it to 85hz, oki I thought, a bit better, but what do I care.
Now I'm so used to 85 hz that I actually feel Ill when I see a 60hz monitor - on top of that certain lights can make me so sick you woulndt believe it.
Ohh and on topic, I got 2 19" CRT screens, the quality is less than what you get from LCD, but it's fine for me - and I would love to get my hands on the matrox product, I'm buying a used 21" SONY CRT, and was thinking of dumping one of the old 19", but with this I could get so much more work area.
Yes that it means he can sue in Denmark, but the problem about danish law is, even if you win, you really don't get that much compensation. And on top of that, he is offering a free service, granted he says "if you arent x, y or z you may not use this", the problem is again Danish law, you can't differentiate on customers, if you give something away for free to one customer, everyone has the right to claim same treatment. (That is why you will never see a coupon stateing "buy this, and get this for free" in Denmark, there are workarounds, but in his case everything is offered for free)
To be honest, the only move as far as I can tell is the geek community collectively boykot D-Link, and he changes the DNS of his server.
Btw. I'm neither in one or the other camp, I usually go by being ignorant and pretty good at it, but once in a while you got to stop and think "how the hell did that happen". I mean, if there was a divine power, how come I don't get to win the lottery when I need some money for beers? On the other hand how the hell did Malaria figure out it's life cyclus? (and I think theres an even more weird example of some sort of parasite that makes an ant crawl up on top of a grass straw in order to get eaten by the parasites next host)
Rocco: Fucking... What the fuck. Who the fuck fucked this fucking... How did you two fucking fucks... [shouts] Rocco: fuck! Connor: Well, that certainly illustrates the diversity of the word.
It used to be that way for me, download first, check it out - buy if I like, or throw away...
But I've stopped downloading music, once in a while a new good track comes out, but they play it 500 bazillion times in the radio, and soon you are bored with it, so I never get around to download/buy it. In stead I'm moving more and more towards places like http://www.di.fm/.
With movies, well I still download movies, and I probably will keep on doing so. In my eyes the companies have fixed the prices which is illegal, so Ill top it off with something just as illegal (yeah, two wrongs won't make a right, but I can live with it) - and if you don't believe in price fixation, then please, do tell me why some random crap movie (stealth to pick one) costs the exact same amount as, lets say Harry Potter and the Goblet of flame when they hit the stores.
Ohh they do drop in price eventually, but again, it seems to be on a fixed price level all the way.
But there is one thing people forget - there are companies that doesn't pattent their stuff, because doing so would mean you publish how to make it.
Can't remember the company name, but there is a Danish company makeing (I think) fodder for livestock extracted from seaweed, they have decided not to patent it, but instead keep all recipies closely guarded. That way they won't have to worry about the patent expirering.
Thats a load of crap, the reason why scandinavians has such low crime rate is because we care about each other. Don't give me that bullshit about US has a history of war - Vikings were all over the place a 1000 years ago - but we grew up.
And as someone else pointed out - it is illegal to do drugs etc. around here, but I think one of the major reasons is we don't lock up people for the rest of their lives (unless you do something really bad, then you get taken into custody, and can only be released when seen mentally fit), that means that when someone is being chased by the police, they usually give up, its only a few months of jail time and then you get out, long jail time means people take risks...
Yes the representive of the firm did a bad thing, and yes the firm in itself is probably a bad thing. But two wrongs don't make a right unless you are going left - so calm down, smile and try to be polite even though people are pissing on you.
Reading comments on slashy provides a very different view on cinemas...
Here in Denmark cinemas are clean, people are friendly, the screens are huge (imperials is even bigger, and got digital projection (hot damn that is some crips quality)) the sound system is up to date and we get reclining seats.
Now we do pay around 85dkr - $13 for a ticket, but you get a much better experience than at home.
About the trailers/comercials - we get 15 minuttes of that, but you can ask the ushers when the movie starts - and usually when the trailers start.
Also, have you noticed that on digital transmission, if theres alot of moving objects you get pixelization? Ie. when theres a scene with alot of rain, or snow - or anything with lots of small moving objects, the quality goes down the drain.
I always find it hugely amuseing how people in the land of the free really are free...
Here in Denmark the evil laws require each provider to list the total cost of the phone with rebates. Also since you pay for the phone the provider has to give you the unlock code, stupid laws!!! (Granted most people are unaware of this here, but its your phone)
Ohh and you can only lock the customers in for 6 months - anything over that is illegal.
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You and the sibling totally misses the point - Even if the serials are only a small percentage of the keyspace you still have to go through it all to get the right checksums, and even if you do a check on thousends of keys it would mean nothing.
Try the math where each machine does a billion checks a second and still on a botnet with 1,5 million PC's, searching the entire keyspace still takes more time than you got. Heck, take every bloody machine ever produced and put it into a botnet, you still end up using more time than you got - or the earth for that matter.
Uhm...
Deplete the key space?
Lets see, a serial is what, 24 characters? And lets assume we got something in the order of 37 possibilities per character, that would make a keyspace of 24^37, that is a very very big number, you just don't go bruteforce your way through that...
And just to top it off, lets assume you got access to the largest "known" bot net, that would be 1,5 million PC's, and with 50 keys per second that would make it 75 million keys per second - so 24^37/(75*10^6), according to my calculater that would leave you with 1,5*10^43 seconds to run through, or 4,9*10^35 years to do.
Be advised, I'm a bit sleepy so the calculations might be a wee bit off, but the point still holds, you simply cannot bruteforce it.
Or perhaps they are saying, people know we are good, we don't have to have some low IQ bimbo hopping around nakkid to sell our stuff?
I have been with AMD since they were known for being very hot running cpus, and never had any problems with them that wasn't directly related to me abusing the CPU (ie. dropping a heatsink on the core because I had greasy hands), probably never gonna buy me an Intel *jingle* because AMD shows they are good.
Lets not forget Intels decision to handle interrupts and exceptions the same way (flush the pipeline) on x86 architecture. A 4Ghz x86 with a 1Gbit NIC is going to spend alot of it's time flushing those 34 or so stages because it keeps getting interrupted.
I just don't get it.
We got something just like it here in Denmark, where the politicians are trying to force ISP's to be able to show all emails that have been sent and on top of that be able to show who did what when. In our case it's the terrorism that got them worked up, but won't be long before somebody yells "think of the children!"
Whats the point in doing it? I mean, theres alot of anonymizing software out there, some of it is even fairly easy to install - so what you get is the average citizen is being watched for every bad move they MIGHT make, but the criminals/perverts still think of it as buissnes as usual.
Well milage may vary, but here it took out all machines with HP products (Share-to-web). Theres more info about it here.
You do realise that some things simply take a certain amount of time and no matter how much money or how many people you throw at the problem they will not get done any quicker, don't you?
If only people would realize that, especially managers. "Ohh so you need x hours to do that? Well I'll just go call this helper for y hours, then you only need x-y hours, so we'll ship on friday"... Glad I'm not doing that anymore. Incidently, we did have a few issues with the patch, but what it revealed for us isn't that there might be a problem with MS patches, but that theres a big problem with testing at our facility before rolling out patches.
MS might screw up, but it's our job to make sure that what they give us works before we roll it out.
Lets assume a good drive has a sustained transfer speed of 80MB/s - that makes your cache last how long?
Yeah, well dunno.
I do once in a while get a good laugh when I use a friends machine and he hasn't got adblock, entering a new site plastered in ads, my first reaction - wah? where did the page go? Then I realise whats going on and find what I was looking for, the brain is amazing at filtering...
On a slightly different topic, back in the days when I watched TV on the regular network, I would actually watch the commercials because they where fun and catchy, now they seem to be braindead zombies all over - and on top of that, they cut in every bloody 5 minuttes or so! I've not stopped watching the shows, just stopped doing it legally, the legal way is when you get to pay for shows that are 2-3 seasons behind the US - and on top of that get to watch commercials... well blow that, downloading them from the net gets me the newest episodes and alows me to watch them in my own time.
Yes it's illegal, but I'm voting with my money (sort of). Give me what I wan't when I wan't, and then Ill be glad to pay. (A good example, scrubs aired a few nights ago, I could download it from the net in less than 12 minuttes, and I could watch it when I had the time, the legal way would be to wait for season 4 to finish on the late night runs (reruns at 6 o'clock in the morning) and then wait some more for season 5 to get here)
Some think it's funny, but you know what? The main reason why I use adblocking software is the adservers are f***ing slow! The whole site hangs while the browser waits for the servers to get around to responding to the request.
If they want to make sure we watch the adds then dump them in the image dir ON THEIR OWN SERVERS! that way everything gets same speed and I wouldn't care, my brain filters out all the ads anyways.
Games like DDO, AA:O and WoW requires multi GB installations, with 60GB you aren't gonna have that much installed...
Yes, but isn't that because flash photography would potentially destroy the paintings?
It has to do with what you are used to, back in the days I was using 60hz and thought it was just fine. Then one day someone changed it to 85hz, oki I thought, a bit better, but what do I care.
Now I'm so used to 85 hz that I actually feel Ill when I see a 60hz monitor - on top of that certain lights can make me so sick you woulndt believe it.
Ohh and on topic, I got 2 19" CRT screens, the quality is less than what you get from LCD, but it's fine for me - and I would love to get my hands on the matrox product, I'm buying a used 21" SONY CRT, and was thinking of dumping one of the old 19", but with this I could get so much more work area.
Yes that it means he can sue in Denmark, but the problem about danish law is, even if you win, you really don't get that much compensation. And on top of that, he is offering a free service, granted he says "if you arent x, y or z you may not use this", the problem is again Danish law, you can't differentiate on customers, if you give something away for free to one customer, everyone has the right to claim same treatment. (That is why you will never see a coupon stateing "buy this, and get this for free" in Denmark, there are workarounds, but in his case everything is offered for free)
To be honest, the only move as far as I can tell is the geek community collectively boykot D-Link, and he changes the DNS of his server.
And ligers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liger/
Btw. I'm neither in one or the other camp, I usually go by being ignorant and pretty good at it, but once in a while you got to stop and think "how the hell did that happen". I mean, if there was a divine power, how come I don't get to win the lottery when I need some money for beers? On the other hand how the hell did Malaria figure out it's life cyclus? (and I think theres an even more weird example of some sort of parasite that makes an ant crawl up on top of a grass straw in order to get eaten by the parasites next host)
Rocco: Fucking... What the fuck. Who the fuck fucked this fucking... How did you two fucking fucks...
[shouts]
Rocco: fuck!
Connor: Well, that certainly illustrates the diversity of the word.
It used to be that way for me, download first, check it out - buy if I like, or throw away...
But I've stopped downloading music, once in a while a new good track comes out, but they play it 500 bazillion times in the radio, and soon you are bored with it, so I never get around to download/buy it. In stead I'm moving more and more towards places like http://www.di.fm/.
With movies, well I still download movies, and I probably will keep on doing so. In my eyes the companies have fixed the prices which is illegal, so Ill top it off with something just as illegal (yeah, two wrongs won't make a right, but I can live with it) - and if you don't believe in price fixation, then please, do tell me why some random crap movie (stealth to pick one) costs the exact same amount as, lets say Harry Potter and the Goblet of flame when they hit the stores.
Ohh they do drop in price eventually, but again, it seems to be on a fixed price level all the way.
Amen to that...
But there is one thing people forget - there are companies that doesn't pattent their stuff, because doing so would mean you publish how to make it.
Can't remember the company name, but there is a Danish company makeing (I think) fodder for livestock extracted from seaweed, they have decided not to patent it, but instead keep all recipies closely guarded. That way they won't have to worry about the patent expirering.
Thats a load of crap, the reason why scandinavians has such low crime rate is because we care about each other. Don't give me that bullshit about US has a history of war - Vikings were all over the place a 1000 years ago - but we grew up.
And as someone else pointed out - it is illegal to do drugs etc. around here, but I think one of the major reasons is we don't lock up people for the rest of their lives (unless you do something really bad, then you get taken into custody, and can only be released when seen mentally fit), that means that when someone is being chased by the police, they usually give up, its only a few months of jail time and then you get out, long jail time means people take risks...
You know, not everyone is a vendictive bastard.
Yes the representive of the firm did a bad thing, and yes the firm in itself is probably a bad thing. But two wrongs don't make a right unless you are going left - so calm down, smile and try to be polite even though people are pissing on you.
Reading comments on slashy provides a very different view on cinemas...
Here in Denmark cinemas are clean, people are friendly, the screens are huge (imperials is even bigger, and got digital projection (hot damn that is some crips quality)) the sound system is up to date and we get reclining seats.
Now we do pay around 85dkr - $13 for a ticket, but you get a much better experience than at home.
About the trailers/comercials - we get 15 minuttes of that, but you can ask the ushers when the movie starts - and usually when the trailers start.
Also, have you noticed that on digital transmission, if theres alot of moving objects you get pixelization? Ie. when theres a scene with alot of rain, or snow - or anything with lots of small moving objects, the quality goes down the drain.
High performance computing...
Also try looking up c++csp, jcsp or occam (kroc), since we cant go any faster, we go parallel...
I always find it hugely amuseing how people in the land of the free really are free...
Here in Denmark the evil laws require each provider to list the total cost of the phone with rebates. Also since you pay for the phone the provider has to give you the unlock code, stupid laws!!! (Granted most people are unaware of this here, but its your phone)
Ohh and you can only lock the customers in for 6 months - anything over that is illegal.
Your sig reminded me of a very good local band:
http://pressplayontape.com/