the people calling themselves "libertarians" now in US politics are usually undereducated, poor/working class, underemployed, and about abstract 'ideals' rather than actual policy
they're dupes...pawns for the aristocracy that controls the GOP
you are trolling, Charliemopps and I'm calling you out
YES....gp is right, "the internet of things" is indeed a pretext for a capitalist "Big Brother" and it fits exactly into "libertarian" (read: Republican) ideals
NO...you are wrong, "the internet of things" and fitbits for insurance premium discounts **is not in any way** connected to what anarchists want...anarchists, true to their name, are united only in opposition to a system...
YES...you are a troll...yes libertarians and Republicans are two sides of a totalitarian coin
"the internet of things" is a pretext for a panopticon
One can draw an analogy between this and supermarket club cards
sure "one" could do that, but "one" wouldn't benefit with any new understanding, **because that's a stupid comparison**
i can "draw an analogy" to pissing in a jar, that doesn't mean anything
you're giving everyone a free pass, and assuming the best of intentions on their part....when if you were using your analytical brain, you'd see that the past has taught us to assume the opposite: companies will be as bad as "Big Brother" if we let them
governement and business **both** need accountability
right on...I wonder what the pilots and navigators think they need...
in my mind its a user interface, geometry, and data analysis question...what is the best way to communicate the most data to the flight crew? the answer can't logically involve making the plane windowless in a failure...it deprives the pilot of too much information
IIRC even the JSF has HUD tech that is over a decade obsolete so I'm sure there's room for improvement
Details of execution are unimportant at the concept stage because they will be designed, analysed and tested
right so "details of execution are unimportant"....
this concept is what has let Marketing Majors dictate software coding choices since the Regan Administration.
really, really wrong...
however, I don't totally disagree...sometimes a thing must be made around an **abstract need**...for example...General Patton "needs a portable bridge that can cross 60 feet" because the one they have only goes to 45 feet & Germany has wider rivers...
**that scenario** is when your ideas are correct
but it's to a ****TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION OR NEED****
anything else is just bullshit pissing in the wind...sometimes you're lucky and you don't piss on yourself...other times...
You probably did more analytical thinking when you formulated the following paragraph than the entire design team who made this crap & the people who funded and approved the project:
I can see one way that such screens could work- make them multilayer LCD. A black layer closest to the window, a white later, then the image layer. The black layer serves to block sunlight, and the white layer helps to white-balance the screen and provide some additional light blocking. In the event that power fails, the screens turn clear.
the 'black layer' could be the hydrostatic glass that can be darkened when electric current is applied: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...
see, the way business works today, they will put Million$ into projects based on some dumb idea (or supply chain order for a contractor) before they even know how it would actually work
one last thing, i was disappointed by the pedantic "point/counterpoint" conversations on this thread up till I found TWX's comment...
YES...it is ALWAYS STUPID to not have an analog back up
in aviation, and life, you should always have an analog back up whenever possible
He was arrested on suspicion of being a Russian spy. He told investigators that he was actually spying for the Americans.
hell both are probably true...he probably started out working for the US & got disillusioned & flipped
once these guys have been out in "the field" for awhile they get sociopathic...hard not to...your "work" is basically hacking society & everyone you know is part of the con
it's just rough work...and they **get turned**....then **turned back**
at some point, after double spying, then tripple...these people just become mercenaries
Every time I hear about a (cool) new kind of star like this i get all teh happi feelz
It reminds me of the Cosmos where Sagan elucidates how everything and everyone we've ever known is made of "star stuff" & our composition reflects our star's composition
So...what kind of planets & planetoids would a **METAL STAR** make???
so theoretically, we can develop a process to turn harmful emissions (or any emissions) into the same stuff that goes into batteries, which we can use for power?
honestly mind blowing! if I'm reading this right this is cool
Looking at programming language design as a man/woman thing isn't useful. Programming language complexity is partly an abstract problem. The problem is how to get things as simple as possible, but no simpler.
this is a good way to summarize it
also, you do a good job of explaining 'complexity' in regards to making a large computer program
As a general rule, women are better at communication than men, although it's a rule with all sorts of exceptions. Again as a general rule, men are better at understanding what is to be communicated here, again with all sorts of exceptions. For this purpose, it doesn't really matter whether these tendencies are biological, sociological, or produced by mind control lasers
see, I agree here too, but I'm not trying to fool you by agreeing with you
the 'general thrust' of my call for more women is programming is to create balance...this is a more abstract concept than what you are elucidating
i want to "deal them in" so to speak...you might even think of my comments coming from the perspective of a tech company owner...the person who sets hiring policy...than from one of the coder guys
thanks for the response...as I said I'm not a full-time coder guy but i like to think i get the concepts...i have a 'systems science' background and a dbase mgmt stint...my coding started with FORTRAN type stuff on huge data sets & massive data transfers between systems
this is junk science...not informed consent (buried in a EULA is not informed consent)
first and foremost, TFA description is wrong....TFA and the link research did NOT list what words make a post "positive" and "negative"
we cannot check their work by examining what factors they chose to represent the experimental variables
2nd, you're absolutely right that what people post to facebook.com is often not an accurate reflection of their current mood or actions
my only caveat is that some facebook users really don't care and genuinely post....but still, we all have a selection bias to posting something that others will see
3rd we cannot correleate the act of reading "bad" posts with posting "bad" posts by external observation only...you have to ask the person posting if **they think** what they are posting is "bad"
ok fine...looks like you want an actual discussion
The reason it is there is not that men don't care, but that people really don't know what to do about it
"people really don't know" my ass...you're giving up without a fight
**bad design is fixable**
just look...at...microsoft...virtually all their shitty design elements can be changed and FIXED
again, anything that is designed is able to be improved
The reason it is there is not that men don't care, but that people really don't know what to do about it
again, you're trying to 'straw man' me...nowhere did i indicate that I thought any of these things
no evidence that men wouldn't want programming languages with less unnecessary complexity....If you can coherently explain why the number of women in programming affects this, please do.
damn you...my whole post was started by me explaining how it's hard to give this kind of concrete evidence and that the conversation i quoted was a window into understanding a complex situation
also, men made all the shitty programming languages in existence right now....ALL MADE BY MEN...so at least ***some*** men will at least tolerate shitty programing language design
the reason for women not being "in coding" right now is...complex...its not **one thing** and it spans millenia
you have to stop over simplifying without understanding the context
I've seen no evidence that women are inherently better at language design than men
there is plenty of evidence to suggest women are ****better communicators****
which is ***all coding is***
humans communicating instructions to machines
you need to remember that when you analyze this situation
i'm still pissed at you for being so abstract with your replies
find a way to state your objection clearly in one thesis statement
google sucks at the 'human' part of the human/machine system
it's true just look at their products from the start...'google.com' had better results and no clutter....their success in visual design was to by default **not have any** because sites like 'yahoo.com' are so full of visual garbage...it's just the standards have always been so low in computing that a blank screen w/ search bar is the 'best'
look at how their executives talk about privacy
so, to the problem of 'women in coding' it's rational to expect they'd try to thread a needle with a forklift
for me, i lament two things:
1. quality control...who is teaching these poor women and what kind of "coding" are they teaching them? we all know you could spend a year learning a coding language and still be almost like a newbie in a job situation not using that code...they'd still lose the job to a self-taught adaptable man
2. alternate uses for $50 MILLION DOLLARS
it's good that women are learning 'code' despite my two laments...but still...aaarrrgghh!!!
I don't see why more women in programming would change anything here.
so you just "dont get it"
no detail...just "i don't see it"
after 3 comments....if you were interested in discussion you'd have engaged with my points by now
you're just trolling now
also, new words to describe "do the best thing"...whether it be called "essential complexity" or "user-centered design" or whateverthefuck...those are just new words...same concept since humans first made fire...
it's about ******why its not happening*******
which is all addressed in my post...which you haven't discussed except to say
"i don't see it"
that's what i'm going to do to any more of your comments on this thread btw...
you're pissed that i'm right...that all the stupid Dungeons/Dragons bullshit of the world of coding is both the cause of "failure of software builds" and "lack of women in coding"
it's two symptoms of the same problem
the fact that you think a solution means this:
The LAST thing we need is for our compilers to give up and say "well this code dereferences uninitialized pointers but hey, I'm sure you meant well and you have better things to do." Ship it!
proves you are just being obtuse for no reason
***OF COURSE*** i'm not advocating shipping inferior products or making a compiler that is not effective for its intended purpose
you're an idiot...solving these problems will only help you...
Slashdot Mirror
see above comment
hey, guys...over here...yeah...**waves arms wildly**
**they have made a microchip that can release hormones and be controlled wirelessly from outside the body**
should it be used for contraception?
hmm interesting question...quick look over there! points away from the fact that we have **wireless hormone-releasing microchips** /joke
endorphins, dopamine, testosterone, adrenaline...
all of these and any other hormone is in play with this technology
so...should it be used for **mind control**?
you're giving "libertarians" way too much credit
the people calling themselves "libertarians" now in US politics are usually undereducated, poor/working class, underemployed, and about abstract 'ideals' rather than actual policy
they're dupes...pawns for the aristocracy that controls the GOP
you are trolling, Charliemopps and I'm calling you out
YES....gp is right, "the internet of things" is indeed a pretext for a capitalist "Big Brother" and it fits exactly into "libertarian" (read: Republican) ideals
NO...you are wrong, "the internet of things" and fitbits for insurance premium discounts **is not in any way** connected to what anarchists want...anarchists, true to their name, are united only in opposition to a system...
YES...you are a troll...yes libertarians and Republicans are two sides of a totalitarian coin
"the internet of things" is a pretext for a panopticon
sure "one" could do that, but "one" wouldn't benefit with any new understanding, **because that's a stupid comparison**
i can "draw an analogy" to pissing in a jar, that doesn't mean anything
you're giving everyone a free pass, and assuming the best of intentions on their part....when if you were using your analytical brain, you'd see that the past has taught us to assume the opposite: companies will be as bad as "Big Brother" if we let them
governement and business **both** need accountability
right on...I wonder what the pilots and navigators think they need...
in my mind its a user interface, geometry, and data analysis question...what is the best way to communicate the most data to the flight crew? the answer can't logically involve making the plane windowless in a failure...it deprives the pilot of too much information
IIRC even the JSF has HUD tech that is over a decade obsolete so I'm sure there's room for improvement
right so "details of execution are unimportant"....
this concept is what has let Marketing Majors dictate software coding choices since the Regan Administration.
really, really wrong...
however, I don't totally disagree...sometimes a thing must be made around an **abstract need**...for example...General Patton "needs a portable bridge that can cross 60 feet" because the one they have only goes to 45 feet & Germany has wider rivers...
**that scenario** is when your ideas are correct
but it's to a ****TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION OR NEED****
anything else is just bullshit pissing in the wind...sometimes you're lucky and you don't piss on yourself...other times...
You probably did more analytical thinking when you formulated the following paragraph than the entire design team who made this crap & the people who funded and approved the project:
the 'black layer' could be the hydrostatic glass that can be darkened when electric current is applied: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...
see, the way business works today, they will put Million$ into projects based on some dumb idea (or supply chain order for a contractor) before they even know how it would actually work
one last thing, i was disappointed by the pedantic "point/counterpoint" conversations on this thread up till I found TWX's comment...
YES...it is ALWAYS STUPID to not have an analog back up
in aviation, and life, you should always have an analog back up whenever possible
hell both are probably true...he probably started out working for the US & got disillusioned & flipped
once these guys have been out in "the field" for awhile they get sociopathic...hard not to...your "work" is basically hacking society & everyone you know is part of the con
it's just rough work...and they **get turned**....then **turned back**
at some point, after double spying, then tripple...these people just become mercenaries
the Americans spy on YOU!
so, i'm supposed to worry about 1337 h4xxxx0rz who have my public email, which I made public, right in my profile?
Every time I hear about a (cool) new kind of star like this i get all teh happi feelz
It reminds me of the Cosmos where Sagan elucidates how everything and everyone we've ever known is made of "star stuff" & our composition reflects our star's composition
So...what kind of planets & planetoids would a **METAL STAR** make???
**bangs head**
so theoretically, we can develop a process to turn harmful emissions (or any emissions) into the same stuff that goes into batteries, which we can use for power?
honestly mind blowing! if I'm reading this right this is cool
haha no I totally see where you are coming from.
this is a good way to summarize it
also, you do a good job of explaining 'complexity' in regards to making a large computer program
see, I agree here too, but I'm not trying to fool you by agreeing with you
the 'general thrust' of my call for more women is programming is to create balance...this is a more abstract concept than what you are elucidating
i want to "deal them in" so to speak...you might even think of my comments coming from the perspective of a tech company owner...the person who sets hiring policy...than from one of the coder guys
thanks for the response...as I said I'm not a full-time coder guy but i like to think i get the concepts...i have a 'systems science' background and a dbase mgmt stint...my coding started with FORTRAN type stuff on huge data sets & massive data transfers between systems
this is junk science...not informed consent (buried in a EULA is not informed consent)
first and foremost, TFA description is wrong....TFA and the link research did NOT list what words make a post "positive" and "negative"
we cannot check their work by examining what factors they chose to represent the experimental variables
2nd, you're absolutely right that what people post to facebook.com is often not an accurate reflection of their current mood or actions
my only caveat is that some facebook users really don't care and genuinely post....but still, we all have a selection bias to posting something that others will see
3rd we cannot correleate the act of reading "bad" posts with posting "bad" posts by external observation only...you have to ask the person posting if **they think** what they are posting is "bad"
these researchers are idiots...really...
ok fine...looks like you want an actual discussion
"people really don't know" my ass...you're giving up without a fight
**bad design is fixable**
just look...at...microsoft...virtually all their shitty design elements can be changed and FIXED
again, anything that is designed is able to be improved
again, you're trying to 'straw man' me...nowhere did i indicate that I thought any of these things
damn you...my whole post was started by me explaining how it's hard to give this kind of concrete evidence and that the conversation i quoted was a window into understanding a complex situation
also, men made all the shitty programming languages in existence right now....ALL MADE BY MEN...so at least ***some*** men will at least tolerate shitty programing language design
the reason for women not being "in coding" right now is...complex...its not **one thing** and it spans millenia
you have to stop over simplifying without understanding the context
there is plenty of evidence to suggest women are ****better communicators****
which is ***all coding is***
humans communicating instructions to machines
you need to remember that when you analyze this situation
i'm still pissed at you for being so abstract with your replies
find a way to state your objection clearly in one thesis statement
google sucks at the 'human' part of the human/machine system
it's true just look at their products from the start...'google.com' had better results and no clutter....their success in visual design was to by default **not have any** because sites like 'yahoo.com' are so full of visual garbage...it's just the standards have always been so low in computing that a blank screen w/ search bar is the 'best'
look at how their executives talk about privacy
so, to the problem of 'women in coding' it's rational to expect they'd try to thread a needle with a forklift
for me, i lament two things:
1. quality control...who is teaching these poor women and what kind of "coding" are they teaching them? we all know you could spend a year learning a coding language and still be almost like a newbie in a job situation not using that code...they'd still lose the job to a self-taught adaptable man
2. alternate uses for $50 MILLION DOLLARS
it's good that women are learning 'code' despite my two laments...but still...aaarrrgghh!!!
why don't you explain it then?
you don't have to type a thesis, just hit the high points, and be sure to throw in some links
you know, just traditional ****HEALTH CARE**** could save 100K lives per year...
health care is being made artificially scarce to prop up at huge industry that has a bad business model...doesn't **need** a business model
I agree Page is out of touch, foolish, and amoral...but the greater problem is artificial scarcity
try to make it happen...
if you're not motivated enough after an "Ask Slashdot" then maybe you're over the whole "i can do teh Linuxes" phase
so you just "dont get it"
no detail...just "i don't see it"
after 3 comments....if you were interested in discussion you'd have engaged with my points by now
you're just trolling now
also, new words to describe "do the best thing"...whether it be called "essential complexity" or "user-centered design" or whateverthefuck...those are just new words...same concept since humans first made fire...
it's about ******why its not happening*******
which is all addressed in my post...which you haven't discussed except to say
"i don't see it"
that's what i'm going to do to any more of your comments on this thread btw...
oh man, you actually **looked up** their methodology in TFA?!?!
it's hilarious isnt it?
it really is insane how they structure their test methodology
exactly.
these "social media marketers" who do "sentiment analysis" are absolute tools
it's reading chicken guts
you're pissed that i'm right...that all the stupid Dungeons/Dragons bullshit of the world of coding is both the cause of "failure of software builds" and "lack of women in coding"
it's two symptoms of the same problem
the fact that you think a solution means this:
proves you are just being obtuse for no reason
***OF COURSE*** i'm not advocating shipping inferior products or making a compiler that is not effective for its intended purpose
you're an idiot...solving these problems will only help you...
unless you're scared of the competition