I suspect you're joking but either way i hope they don't tag them w/ felonies just for this...the DA will surely pull some ridiculous damages figure but there's no reason to cripple good engineers forever w/ a felony for this
I used to do funded networking work and this is one of the *first* things I thought when I heard about BTC...a friend who is a router R&D now and I talked all about it of course...never actually **did it**
I would have definitely put a miner bot in a broom closet next to a computer lab in a freshmen dorm or something...nowhere near our program's stuff, for alot of reasons
we just talked though...if my friend had took the time he'd be litterally rich right now...at least 6 figures b/c we were in school from 2008-2010
now, i sure hope they don't "throw the book at them"...I hope they don't get felonies unless unavoidable and either way no prison time...get them on a hardcore probation for 5 years....they can make your life hell now w/ electronic monitoring...let's keep these people out of prison if possible
if you re-read it you'll see that I refused to have a discussion, and ***INSTEAD*** I would post a standard response that describes, with boring detail, why "quantum computing" is really just "quantum" cryptography
I said I would **post that** instead of have a discussion
see, I wish you wouldn't do this, because it embarrasses us all
or, at least, find another context besides science in which to make such assertions
saying "Humans are made for a purpose by DNA" is ***NOT SCIENTIFIC***
science is about observing, measuring, and repeating...a community who verify other's work...**comparison** is absolutly necessary and your use of language is **not scientific**
it is your chosen abstract contextualization that only is valid if one chooses to define/contextualize "made" "for a purpose" the word "purpose" itself, "by DNA" and "DNA" as a term itself...all of these words have actual meanings that when people who want to be sceintific talk about them, they use them as consistently as possible so comparisons are accurate and precise.
I can break it down further but it's not a question of "proof" for you...it's about your **beliefs**...which has no place in a science discussion
have to disagree here...humans are not machines...humans are homo sapiens sapiens
which is part of a taxonomy that is comparable in a context
machines are a completely different taxonomy
i know...i know...it's analogous..."machines evolve too!" but there are myriad differences...it's **just an analogy**
machines were, with certainty, ****created by humans to serve a purpose****
humans, well...this is still a scientific discussion as long as I have anything to say about it...and science says biology is the study of life and has taxonomy for all life forms we find
humans evolved according to different rules than machines were **made**
i know...i know...it's fun to make analogies between vestigial organs and companies like M$...again...an **abstraction**
there are all kinds of fun things, from a Gosper's Gun to research in neural network computing
sci-fi is great too...I just thought today about re-reading KS Robinsons "Mars Trilogy"
TFA & the "Mars Trilogy" have something in common that can help our industry save Billion$...yes that much
they both view machines from a *functional* perspective...tools that can be programmed to do tasks
In the books, AI advances realistically...it basically is a function of our computing/processing power combined with our understanding of how the human brain works...it's a logical progression
This all has to do with "teh singularity"...you're either looking for how to **evolve the human race** or solve a problem in robotics
We should fear the people who ***program*** the machines...
credit card companies have some kind of accounting/tax trick that actually brings in a profit from the credit card fraud
this is definitely possible
it could be happening without the company even knowing it, in fact....these organizations are so large and have so many beaurecrats that it could be set up that way just as the natural evolution of capital flowing through a publicly held company...everyone has a number to "hit" and is compartmentalized by abstractions
my credit card company (and yours too probably) looks at my geographic spending patterns and just puts a temporary hold if I do something random
i know this because I used to travel all over at the drop of a hat..like the card would pay for something usual like gas in my hometown in Indiana, then sushi in Seattle (i would fly using a ticket bought w/ a different card & use cash in transit) then less than 12 hours later buy gas at a string of gas stations starting in South Carolina
which is me on a summer road trip plus flying out in the middle of it to see my cousin graduate boot camp
credit card company put a security hold on it, forcing me to call them when I used it next and verify my identiy & recent charges
it was annoying but I could understand why they do it
nothing in TFA (or the ATT page it links to) say this is **international only**
I did note this in TFA however...
AT&T plans to test a service allowing payment card providers to access the location of a customer's phone to improve the accuracy of fraud prevention systems for transactions made abroad.
this is tracking your phone, all the time, and letting your credit card company access the data
I see this as using fraud to justify spying on you
As I mentioned earlier, HTML5 is not a streaming standard, it's a browser rendering standard.
I don't need anyone to "explain" HTML5 to me.
Do you understand the WHATWG vs W3C conflict and it's origins?
D...R...M...and tracking
the WHATWG is the only reason we have HTML5 & CSS3...the "avenue" (for lack of a better word) that un-tracked, non-DRM video can be streamed without proprietary software or plugins
Until you have science, you are still arguing with "nuh uh!" nonsense.
don't pull this crap w/ me...you've posted exactly zero evidence yourself...
your'e trying to make this into an 'evolution vs creation' style discussion and it's obnoxious
you're a **scientist** right? "Senior System Engineer/Architect"....so glad you put your specific job title in your sig so we all know you're a **scientist**
here's what you do...
put the claims of TFA through the same rigor you are using for my claims...
also, show me some research that shows EEG's doing the extreme things TFA claims (as if it just accepted science!)
i'll admit this: unscrupulous scientists, since the Nazis and before up through Reagan to today, will bombard the human body with anything that they think will help control us...that is true...what is ***ridiculous*** is the way you take conjecture and experiment to be fact and theory
so put your rigor to work on your own ideas, and post some evidence or GTFO
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I suspect you're joking but either way i hope they don't tag them w/ felonies just for this...the DA will surely pull some ridiculous damages figure but there's no reason to cripple good engineers forever w/ a felony for this
I used to do funded networking work and this is one of the *first* things I thought when I heard about BTC...a friend who is a router R&D now and I talked all about it of course...never actually **did it**
I would have definitely put a miner bot in a broom closet next to a computer lab in a freshmen dorm or something...nowhere near our program's stuff, for alot of reasons
we just talked though...if my friend had took the time he'd be litterally rich right now...at least 6 figures b/c we were in school from 2008-2010
now, i sure hope they don't "throw the book at them"...I hope they don't get felonies unless unavoidable and either way no prison time...get them on a hardcore probation for 5 years....they can make your life hell now w/ electronic monitoring...let's keep these people out of prison if possible
if you re-read it you'll see that I refused to have a discussion, and ***INSTEAD*** I would post a standard response that describes, with boring detail, why "quantum computing" is really just "quantum" cryptography
I said I would **post that** instead of have a discussion
who are you, AC?
a logged in user made the post before me...my comment was directed to them
if that logged-in user wants to contribute to the discussion I'll be happy to post it
see, I wish you wouldn't do this, because it embarrasses us all
or, at least, find another context besides science in which to make such assertions
saying "Humans are made for a purpose by DNA" is ***NOT SCIENTIFIC***
science is about observing, measuring, and repeating...a community who verify other's work...**comparison** is absolutly necessary and your use of language is **not scientific**
it is your chosen abstract contextualization that only is valid if one chooses to define/contextualize "made" "for a purpose" the word "purpose" itself, "by DNA" and "DNA" as a term itself...all of these words have actual meanings that when people who want to be sceintific talk about them, they use them as consistently as possible so comparisons are accurate and precise.
I can break it down further but it's not a question of "proof" for you...it's about your **beliefs**...which has no place in a science discussion
"made for a purpose by DNA"
it's pathetic
no, we don't have non-local entanglement...I'm not going to have this discussion...it's not true non-locality, at all
please don't start this...it's becoming like arguing about apple vs microsoft
i have a standard response, one that I saved from another commenter...I will post it if I have to
no.
we do not have the ability to initiate or control quantum entangled particles
to be quantum it must be **non-local**
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P...
can we **please** stop calling this tech "quantum computing"?
it's factually inaccurate as it does not use quantum non-locality but two independent things that only act as entangled
the application they are developing it for is cryptography
"quantum cryptography" still has "quantum" in it...it still sounds just as cool as quantum computing and its much more precise
"everyone" is every civil body politic, monarch, tribal chief, dictator, republic, or any other human organization at this level, ever in history
maybe you're one of those stereotypical ignorant Europeans, but here in **AMERICA** we have mandatory History education.
learn your history and stop being a hypocrite...you're proving the other commenter below right...you're just taking this chance to bash America
if you want to bitch and moan about bad government, let's start with Bashar Al-Assad, North Korea, China, and the Queen of England and Canada
have to disagree here...humans are not machines...humans are homo sapiens sapiens
which is part of a taxonomy that is comparable in a context
machines are a completely different taxonomy
i know...i know...it's analogous..."machines evolve too!" but there are myriad differences...it's **just an analogy**
machines were, with certainty, ****created by humans to serve a purpose****
humans, well...this is still a scientific discussion as long as I have anything to say about it...and science says biology is the study of life and has taxonomy for all life forms we find
humans evolved according to different rules than machines were **made**
i know...i know...it's fun to make analogies between vestigial organs and companies like M$...again...an **abstraction**
humans: evolved via nature
machines: made for a purpose by humans
end.
machines, no matter how complex, are a tool
there are all kinds of fun things, from a Gosper's Gun to research in neural network computing
sci-fi is great too...I just thought today about re-reading KS Robinsons "Mars Trilogy"
TFA & the "Mars Trilogy" have something in common that can help our industry save Billion$...yes that much
they both view machines from a *functional* perspective...tools that can be programmed to do tasks
In the books, AI advances realistically...it basically is a function of our computing/processing power combined with our understanding of how the human brain works...it's a logical progression
This all has to do with "teh singularity"...you're either looking for how to **evolve the human race** or solve a problem in robotics
We should fear the people who ***program*** the machines...
so even though we knew "The NSA Has Massive Database of American's Phone Calls" in **2006**
and everyone else did it or worse
yet this news arrives with a thud...
they're not allowed to do this now....**that's why they need a new plan w/ a new TOS**
see, you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater
we have laws, and corporations are (usually) held accountable when it is proven a law was broken
if this wasn't already a violation of TOS then **THEY WOULD ALREADY DO IT**
stop justifying their assumption that "privacy is dead"
privacy is as alive as we demand
this is definitely possible
it could be happening without the company even knowing it, in fact....these organizations are so large and have so many beaurecrats that it could be set up that way just as the natural evolution of capital flowing through a publicly held company...everyone has a number to "hit" and is compartmentalized by abstractions
my credit card company (and yours too probably) looks at my geographic spending patterns and just puts a temporary hold if I do something random
i know this because I used to travel all over at the drop of a hat..like the card would pay for something usual like gas in my hometown in Indiana, then sushi in Seattle (i would fly using a ticket bought w/ a different card & use cash in transit) then less than 12 hours later buy gas at a string of gas stations starting in South Carolina
which is me on a summer road trip plus flying out in the middle of it to see my cousin graduate boot camp
credit card company put a security hold on it, forcing me to call them when I used it next and verify my identiy & recent charges
it was annoying but I could understand why they do it
nothing in TFA (or the ATT page it links to) say this is **international only**
I did note this in TFA however...
this is tracking your phone, all the time, and letting your credit card company access the data
I see this as using fraud to justify spying on you
I don't need anyone to "explain" HTML5 to me.
Do you understand the WHATWG vs W3C conflict and it's origins?
D...R...M...and tracking
the WHATWG is the only reason we have HTML5 & CSS3...the "avenue" (for lack of a better word) that un-tracked, non-DRM video can be streamed without proprietary software or plugins
go fsck yourself if you don't understand this
AC above explains it for you
you smug bastard
your "evidence" was a link to your own comment and info from TFA
I asked for studies or some kind of proof that ****emotions can be scientifically quantified****
YOU ARE AVOIDING THE QUESTION B/C YOU KNOW YOU'RE CONJURING FACTS
what are you even defending now?
you've dropped your main contention...now you're trying to say P-300 waves can be used for lie detection?
you must be a polygrapher or on the MIT team or Ray Kurzweil himself
You're avoiding your problem & your data doesn't apply:
We cannot quantify the human experience of "emotions" in a way that is scientifically comparable and consistent
You're dead in the water on this one...
ta-da!
thanks AC...for helping me pull that rabbit out of a hat
yes...this makes sense...DASH is a proprietary media strategy
DASH is like the W3C in relation to HTML5
they are against HTML5 b/c it is not "proprietary"
this supports my argument
I read this as Netflix having been locked-in via contract as a DASH member to use fellow member M$'s silverlight for streaming
Netflix probably wanted to switch to HTML5 a long time ago but was bound by some ridiculous contract (or a bad interpretation of one)
I want to explain exactly why you're full of shit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P...
that's the P-300 wave
we can define it and observe it repeatedly to verify that it exists
the problem comes with ***connecting that data to human behavior***
define emotions...go ahead...
it's impossible to define "human emotion" in a way that is testable with p-300 data
it's like trying to read War & Peace when you can only see one letter at a time...it's ridiculous
however, researchers need hype to stay funded, so they (TFA) ****MAKE A REDUCTIVE DEFINITION OF "EMOTIONS"****
so for the researchers, since we can't quantify a definition of emotion, we can just call w/e we see on the EEG "emotions"
emotions happen in the brain, the EEG measures waves in the brain....science!
you're conjuring, not researching...
right...you have advanced to posting links...
now...post links **that support your contention**
you can't link to your own comment then TFA and call it "evidence" of your contention...
you can't cite yourself
the P-300 wave exists...we are experimenting to see how it works in the brain...that I agree with...
what is wrong and foolish is to say that b/c we see P-300 light up on a screen that means we can "read emotions"
I know the science...the problem is people like you have built careers around an unscientific approach
don't pull this crap w/ me...you've posted exactly zero evidence yourself...
your'e trying to make this into an 'evolution vs creation' style discussion and it's obnoxious
you're a **scientist** right? "Senior System Engineer/Architect"....so glad you put your specific job title in your sig so we all know you're a **scientist**
here's what you do...
put the claims of TFA through the same rigor you are using for my claims...
also, show me some research that shows EEG's doing the extreme things TFA claims (as if it just accepted science!)
i'll admit this: unscrupulous scientists, since the Nazis and before up through Reagan to today, will bombard the human body with anything that they think will help control us...that is true...what is ***ridiculous*** is the way you take conjecture and experiment to be fact and theory
so put your rigor to work on your own ideas, and post some evidence or GTFO