If you want to argue the science with science, fine.
yes...show me some science to argue with (didn't see any in TFA)
Polygraphs fail for numerous reasons, but most notably are the external influences such as strapping a bunch of cables to someone after stuffing them into a foreign location
polygraphs fail b/c they are not what they claim to be...and their failings are so well documented it's an insult to provide them for you...
they are completely subjective....so is the science in TFA
TFA and you are making the situation worse by projecting plot lines from science fiction onto reality
but you're arguing rhetoric and being pedantic...here's how:
"support HTML5 streaming", they're spewing you a line of BS, because it doesn't exist. There are currently at least 5 different ways to send video to an HTML5-compliant browser:
you say "it doesn't exist"...
then say there are "5...ways to send video" via HTML5
the problem is YOU...you don't understand that Netflix was foolish to use Silverlight, and only did it b/c they had to make Netflix work with anything...M$ forced Netflix to use Silverlight
you know exactly what TFA is talking about...as you plainly demonstrate, and further, you demonstrate how, technically, this is a big improvement to use HTML5
Silverlight is another example of M$ creep...getting rid of M$ creep sometimes involved **institutional change** b/c of how entrenched M$'s products have become
the portions we are sure of are very accurate. Things such as memory mapping (gauging yes/no responses by thought pattern), detecting certain disorders, detecting specific behaviors, and quite a bit more.
only if you use some kind of Schrodinger's Cat definition of "sure" and "accurate"
you cannot use an EEG to detect what you claim at all
you're in polygraph territory...that's a more precise analogy...
Yes, TFA is a total waste of time. The concepts are reductive and stultifying and the author's evaluation of EEG capabilities is straight from science fiction.
**we don't now how the brain works**
We know an EEG and fMRI and other E-M sensitive sensors can receive waves from our brain and represent that data on a chart.
Beyond that, it's absolutely the Wild Wild West...it's academic anarchy
It's so bad that now anyone will say "correlation is not causation" to any scientific claim purely as rhetoric to bolster their non-evidence based argument. I've heard creationists say "correlation is not causation"
Correlation is not causation of course...but how helpful is that phrase now? Bayesian? also becoming co-opted by opportunists
Just because a 16 sensor external EEG gives a certain reading when a human does a thing means nothing in and of itself...that data is to us like giving Galileo a raw data printout of data from a Gamma Ray Burst
Galileo was a genius, but that data would be useless to him without any context....
Of course, Galileo could take the data and pretend to divine anything he wanted from it...if he hyped it enough and got enough sites to post his predictions people just might be presuaded to act on them
first of all, Ms. Granick didn't start all answers by making an extremely esoteric distinction in terminology that caused more questions and confusion...like Stallman did
2nd, Stallman thinks anyone who uses a cell phone is a dupe
I use a cell phone, even though I'm as aware as anyone on earth the technical telecommunications capabilities it has....I know and I still choose to use a cell phone
Stallman's contextualization of the problem guides his opinions of "how things should be" and what solutions are best for our current problems
on the issue of privacy, Ms. Granick's advice on a cell phone privacy issue or her thoughts on what can be done to increase privacy are going to be an order of magnitude more useful, because she's actively working inside the system to change it, not lobbing potshots from outside
the "start menu" could be a top 5 Microsoft Case Study into Awful Business Choices (clippy, metro, 'automatic updates', Zune, or tell me your favorite)
assuming the use of a button labeled "start" on the desktop, here's what M$ should have done the whole time:
by default, put it where they think is best...where their "vision" tells them
give user option to remove it, or move it, or make it bigger or smaller, or edit the text...
in the standard Control Panel area...of course you can eventually find a way to hack this, but obviously I mean put it in Control Panel
I cannot stress enough that this is ***basic human/computer interaction design***....it's in colloquial language, but everyone who does any design work has heard of Ben Shneiderman's 8 Rules for Interface design
M$ kept the Start menu because some idiots in marketing were trying to justify their existence
I know that M$ had employees who were/are as apoplectic as I am about design choices like the Start Menu...
So the answer to "how" is this: bad business structure that gives decision power for technical questions to non-technical people and in general is built from the ground up to resist institutional change even if it is change that improves
This is an interesting question to research but I wish TFA wasn't paywalled b/c there are several factors they'd need to address that aren't mentioned in the description.
1. is this just *watching* porn or watching and fapping...also fapping w/o any physical media stimuli
2. they'd need to compare a control test with a completely different behavior/stimuli that triggers those same parts of the brain...it's "reward center" so maybe something with video games or receiving compliments on your appearance
3. what about actual sex? does it do the same thing to this part of the brain? I know/.'ers probably can't imagine this but it's possible to have sex too much so I'd definitey need to see if actual sex is any different than their results with porn.
those are some good starters...plenty of room for further research which means job security;)
yeah i got crazy b/c of how racist/. commenters are...
you were just pointing out one error...it doesn't change anything to my central point at all
the thing is, this is the internet...and it's slashdot which allows anon comments...so that all has to be taken into account...
*those factors included* the level of racism or blatantly ignorant ideas of race relations and culture on this thread are truly ridiculous and disappointing
what you kids don't understand is, the media of the spectrum has shifted far, far to the right...the poles have re-aligned such that two groups that usually do not overlap: geeks and ignorant white racists, have converged and been empowered by tech money...just look at Peter Theil
usually the only people who express the ideas of racism I've seen on slashdot are un-educated, downtrodden whites who are just being bullies due to their own sad life circumstances...
this is different...this is educated, rich, white people talking like rednecks...it's fsking disgusting
Was this necessary to try and get the descendents of former slaves to be able to integrate into a more modern American society? Sadly, it probably was.Is the time for it LONG past? Most assuredly.
how does a person prove, to your satisfaction, that racism exists?
what's the mechanism for that, in your mind....how would you know if something/someone is being racist? how would you know when the sociological effects of racism are no longer relevant?
so by your logic, since the pastors have stopped (almost, a few churches still openly preach Biblical slavery)....since they stopped, then the racism & their influence just vanishes into thin air
the racist attitudes are the constant...racism was present before the preachers came to justify it with the Bible
if I punch you in the face repeatedly, will your pain stop when I stop punching?
the fact is race **is used to define cultures** internally and externally
saying "it shouldn't be" adds absolutely nothing to this discussion
the problems of racism need to be addressed *now*
our current racist problems **are** tied to culture
how?
one example of how racism in America is tied to culture: The Bible & slavery
Southern Christian preachers justified black slavery based on prophecies from the Old Testament that said the "Sons of Shem will dwell in tents and serve their kin"
Southern culture, and if you believe Republicans **all** American culture, was founded on the Bible and a strict Christian reading thereof
1,000s of pastors, many well into the 80s and a minority to this very day, preached to there flock that The Bible advocates black slavery...
fsck you...I know this isn't going to convince anyone but I've laid your argument bare for its blatant ignorance
the continued creedence that/. moderators give to race/trolls like you brings out the worst in/....and shows that our industry *really* has a problem still
Backwards urban cultures (where sadly most self-identified blacks and latinos live), are anti-intellectual and actively discourage those who try to make it out through education by shaming them as not being "real".
this one of the stupidest things I've ever read on slashdot
everything about this statement is bigoted nonsense
by this logic, white people are the craziest most fsked up "culture" in history...look at the 20th century;s worst...all white men
but this logic is wrong...every statement is a falsehood...
it's people who think like hsthompson who are the enemy here
Google has sexist/racist hiring policies....that's the cause of this TFA
now...I'm not supporting the notion of "quotas" or forcing Google to hire unqualified workers...I"M AGAINST THAT
I favor **affirmative action**
Affirmative action in the context of a large corporation means *acknowledging society's inherent inequality* and taking steps to offer ****equal opportunity****
how does a company like Google take "affirmative action"?
The Rooney Rule requires National Football League teams to interview minority candidates for head coaching and senior football operation jobs. It is sometimes cited as an example of affirmative action, though there is no quota or preference given to minorities in the hiring of candidates.[1][2] It was established in 2003.[3]
NO QUOTAS...NO FORCED HIRING
all the rule does is require the company to let minority applicants get their foot in the door
without affirmative action, Tomlin would have never got his interview...they did it b/c they wanted to be fair...they got a super bowl out of it
**THIS IS THE SOLUTION TO SILICON VALLEY'S SEXISM/RACISM PROBLEM**
it's not a panacea, but it works...it gives people who are *qualified* a chance
be a replacement for the US dollar....or any other fiat system...we'd have to legislatively change our entire economic system and get the world to co-operate.
GP was right, All of these places actually want dollars
That's because their supply chain doesn't yet accept bitcoins....There's a natural progression from hobbyists paying for pizza, to small online retailers taking it for socks, to larger retailers, now to satellite TV. Eventually second level suppliers will start taking it, and you begin to get a complete economy in bitcoin.
This is a fantasy not backed by reality. There is no "natural progression" in currency, we have a fiat system & only legislation changes that.
BTC are not insured...but you know the problems...what I'm saying is that your idea that there is some mathmatical certainty to BTC's progressive adoption you're very wrong.
I am a business owner. I have a company that sells tshirts online. If your livelihood depends on daily sales you see how unrealistic BTC's fanboi's notions are.
I agree it's fun to talk about! It's not what you think it is, however.
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well, I admit, I don't understand why IE switched from Silverlight to HTML5 for Netflix before Chrome
it makes my argument seem invalid
however, as technically proficient as GP's post was, it also does not make sense to me
Silverlight is bad, HTML5 is good...that much we can agree on (hopefully)
yes...show me some science to argue with (didn't see any in TFA)
polygraphs fail b/c they are not what they claim to be...and their failings are so well documented it's an insult to provide them for you...
they are completely subjective....so is the science in TFA
TFA and you are making the situation worse by projecting plot lines from science fiction onto reality
you have an amazing grasp of this topic...
but you're arguing rhetoric and being pedantic...here's how:
you say "it doesn't exist"...
then say there are "5...ways to send video" via HTML5
the problem is YOU...you don't understand that Netflix was foolish to use Silverlight, and only did it b/c they had to make Netflix work with anything...M$ forced Netflix to use Silverlight
you know exactly what TFA is talking about...as you plainly demonstrate, and further, you demonstrate how, technically, this is a big improvement to use HTML5
Silverlight is another example of M$ creep...getting rid of M$ creep sometimes involved **institutional change** b/c of how entrenched M$'s products have become
it's like removing a brain tumor
only if you use some kind of Schrodinger's Cat definition of "sure" and "accurate"
you cannot use an EEG to detect what you claim at all
you're in polygraph territory...that's a more precise analogy...
TFA = polygraphy
Yes, TFA is a total waste of time. The concepts are reductive and stultifying and the author's evaluation of EEG capabilities is straight from science fiction.
**we don't now how the brain works**
We know an EEG and fMRI and other E-M sensitive sensors can receive waves from our brain and represent that data on a chart.
Beyond that, it's absolutely the Wild Wild West...it's academic anarchy
It's so bad that now anyone will say "correlation is not causation" to any scientific claim purely as rhetoric to bolster their non-evidence based argument. I've heard creationists say "correlation is not causation"
Correlation is not causation of course...but how helpful is that phrase now? Bayesian? also becoming co-opted by opportunists
Just because a 16 sensor external EEG gives a certain reading when a human does a thing means nothing in and of itself...that data is to us like giving Galileo a raw data printout of data from a Gamma Ray Burst
Galileo was a genius, but that data would be useless to him without any context....
Of course, Galileo could take the data and pretend to divine anything he wanted from it...if he hyped it enough and got enough sites to post his predictions people just might be presuaded to act on them
my downmod is ridiculous and unreasonable...
i'm asking for help here...anyone agree?
if I needed to know the difference between GNU and Linux, I can't envision a better person than Stallman to ask...
right...
first of all, Ms. Granick didn't start all answers by making an extremely esoteric distinction in terminology that caused more questions and confusion...like Stallman did
2nd, Stallman thinks anyone who uses a cell phone is a dupe
see for yourself here: http://slashdot.org/story/13/0...
I use a cell phone, even though I'm as aware as anyone on earth the technical telecommunications capabilities it has....I know and I still choose to use a cell phone
Stallman's contextualization of the problem guides his opinions of "how things should be" and what solutions are best for our current problems
on the issue of privacy, Ms. Granick's advice on a cell phone privacy issue or her thoughts on what can be done to increase privacy are going to be an order of magnitude more useful, because she's actively working inside the system to change it, not lobbing potshots from outside
to me the more telling thing would be **how they define the "idiot" **
is it a team of jackasses? in those situations, the person trying to actually get work done will be in constant friction with other team members
so if a team of 5 has 3 idiots and 2 regular workers, and only 1 of the 2 is the type to speak up in groups...
that *one* person will be the constant voice of oppposition
and they become the "idiot" in a team of idiots...
yes.
the "start menu" could be a top 5 Microsoft Case Study into Awful Business Choices (clippy, metro, 'automatic updates', Zune, or tell me your favorite)
assuming the use of a button labeled "start" on the desktop, here's what M$ should have done the whole time:
by default, put it where they think is best...where their "vision" tells them
give user option to remove it, or move it, or make it bigger or smaller, or edit the text...
in the standard Control Panel area...of course you can eventually find a way to hack this, but obviously I mean put it in Control Panel
I cannot stress enough that this is ***basic human/computer interaction design***....it's in colloquial language, but everyone who does any design work has heard of Ben Shneiderman's 8 Rules for Interface design
M$ kept the Start menu because some idiots in marketing were trying to justify their existence
I know that M$ had employees who were/are as apoplectic as I am about design choices like the Start Menu...
So the answer to "how" is this: bad business structure that gives decision power for technical questions to non-technical people and in general is built from the ground up to resist institutional change even if it is change that improves
thanks again to Ms. Granick...these are real, value added answers...
i think this interview Q/A was much more enlightening than the Stallman Q/A
i'd take Jennifer Granicks advice over Stallman's on these issues any day
I missed this in TFA...didn't see any distinction made or definition of "consuming" as including fapping.
Where did you get that?
This is an interesting question to research but I wish TFA wasn't paywalled b/c there are several factors they'd need to address that aren't mentioned in the description.
1. is this just *watching* porn or watching and fapping...also fapping w/o any physical media stimuli
2. they'd need to compare a control test with a completely different behavior/stimuli that triggers those same parts of the brain...it's "reward center" so maybe something with video games or receiving compliments on your appearance
3. what about actual sex? does it do the same thing to this part of the brain? I know /.'ers probably can't imagine this but it's possible to have sex too much so I'd definitey need to see if actual sex is any different than their results with porn.
those are some good starters...plenty of room for further research which means job security ;)
yeah i got crazy b/c of how racist /. commenters are...
you were just pointing out one error...it doesn't change anything to my central point at all
the thing is, this is the internet...and it's slashdot which allows anon comments...so that all has to be taken into account...
*those factors included* the level of racism or blatantly ignorant ideas of race relations and culture on this thread are truly ridiculous and disappointing
what you kids don't understand is, the media of the spectrum has shifted far, far to the right...the poles have re-aligned such that two groups that usually do not overlap: geeks and ignorant white racists, have converged and been empowered by tech money...just look at Peter Theil
usually the only people who express the ideas of racism I've seen on slashdot are un-educated, downtrodden whites who are just being bullies due to their own sad life circumstances...
this is different...this is educated, rich, white people talking like rednecks...it's fsking disgusting
how do you know "the time for it (is) LONG past?"
by what criteria do you make that decision?
explain in detail
Tomlin was indeed a fsking Rooney hire...it's right there in the links I posted
He was interviewed and hired 4 years after it went into effect ***as the Rooney interviewee***
it's in my evidence
which won't sway your racist ignorant troll/mind one bit...
Tomlin was a Rooney Rule hire
how does a person prove, to your satisfaction, that racism exists?
what's the mechanism for that, in your mind....how would you know if something/someone is being racist? how would you know when the sociological effects of racism are no longer relevant?
go ahead, AC troll, answer the questions
so by your logic, since the pastors have stopped (almost, a few churches still openly preach Biblical slavery)....since they stopped, then the racism & their influence just vanishes into thin air
the racist attitudes are the constant...racism was present before the preachers came to justify it with the Bible
if I punch you in the face repeatedly, will your pain stop when I stop punching?
[citation needed]
the fact is race **is used to define cultures** internally and externally
saying "it shouldn't be" adds absolutely nothing to this discussion
the problems of racism need to be addressed *now*
our current racist problems **are** tied to culture
how?
one example of how racism in America is tied to culture: The Bible & slavery
Southern Christian preachers justified black slavery based on prophecies from the Old Testament that said the "Sons of Shem will dwell in tents and serve their kin"
Southern culture, and if you believe Republicans **all** American culture, was founded on the Bible and a strict Christian reading thereof
1,000s of pastors, many well into the 80s and a minority to this very day, preached to there flock that The Bible advocates black slavery...
fsck you...I know this isn't going to convince anyone but I've laid your argument bare for its blatant ignorance
the continued creedence that /. moderators give to race/trolls like you brings out the worst in /....and shows that our industry *really* has a problem still
+5 Insightful... /. is full of idiots on this topic...sorry but it's true
your logic is ridiculous & my point demonstrated how if your logic is applied consistently your argument becomes invalid
all people, of any genetic, cultural, religious, racial, etc. background are capable of being complete idiots
racism exists as a problem interpersonally and institutionally to this day
your bigoted, racist comments tilt all that to one side of the socio/political/cultural specturm and it's ridiculous
my post may have been confusing on the dates...
Rooney Rule: 2003
Tomlin Hire: 2007
Tomlin was the Rooney Rule interviewee and he nailed it....the concept works...
The Rooney Rule is not a fsking "jackhammer"
it's an *interview*
that's all...no "jackhammer"
if Google did it *voluntarily* there would be no need for legislation, would there?
let me punch you in the nose...the ask you if your broken nose is a "problem"
this one of the stupidest things I've ever read on slashdot
everything about this statement is bigoted nonsense
by this logic, white people are the craziest most fsked up "culture" in history...look at the 20th century;s worst...all white men
but this logic is wrong...every statement is a falsehood...
it's people who think like hsthompson who are the enemy here
Google has sexist/racist hiring policies....that's the cause of this TFA
now...I'm not supporting the notion of "quotas" or forcing Google to hire unqualified workers...I"M AGAINST THAT
I favor **affirmative action**
Affirmative action in the context of a large corporation means *acknowledging society's inherent inequality* and taking steps to offer ****equal opportunity****
how does a company like Google take "affirmative action"?
let's take the Pittsburgh Steeler's super bowl winning head coach Mike Tomlin's hiring process
which was so successful that it lead to the Rooney Rule: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R...
NO QUOTAS...NO FORCED HIRING
all the rule does is require the company to let minority applicants get their foot in the door
without affirmative action, Tomlin would have never got his interview...they did it b/c they wanted to be fair...they got a super bowl out of it
**THIS IS THE SOLUTION TO SILICON VALLEY'S SEXISM/RACISM PROBLEM**
it's not a panacea, but it works...it gives people who are *qualified* a chance
be a replacement for the US dollar....or any other fiat system...we'd have to legislatively change our entire economic system and get the world to co-operate.
GP was right, All of these places actually want dollars
This is a fantasy not backed by reality. There is no "natural progression" in currency, we have a fiat system & only legislation changes that.
BTC are not insured...but you know the problems...what I'm saying is that your idea that there is some mathmatical certainty to BTC's progressive adoption you're very wrong.
I am a business owner. I have a company that sells tshirts online. If your livelihood depends on daily sales you see how unrealistic BTC's fanboi's notions are.
I agree it's fun to talk about! It's not what you think it is, however.