"I sincerely hope that we've learned something from these games. I believe that lesson is that we need technical solutions to cheating in online games, because suppressing cheat software is doomed to failure."
Once again, the great Geek-Inspired Drivel: Technological Solutions to Social Problems(tm). What the heck are we supposed to do about this problem? Should we understand what prompts a human to cheating? No, let's try to fix it with our little lines of code. And besides, who is 'we'? I am sure Id and Blizzard learned nothing from either game, besides how to make shitloads more of money. Why should they care about a few 1337 losers cheating?
"Most (99%+) multiplayer gamers (first person shooters especially) really and truly respect the integrity of the game. If the integrity is destroyed for me, the game has lost all of its fun."
Good. Maybe you'll go out for air and sex then.
"I don't understand cheating, but the fact is that it can utterly ruin a game (Again, both Diablo and QW. Diablo never recovered, but the QW community seems to be making progress)."
You are so pathetic. You don't understand cheating? How come you know all about cheating in Quakeworld and Diablo? How come you claim it is easier to code an aimbot than program a driver? You seem to know an awful lot about cheating, yet you claim not to understand it. I bet you go on GameFaqs all the time.
"The solutions to the Diablo and QW problems were both technical."
Says your pathetic, narrow-minded nerd view of the world.
"It's clear that video card drivers are bound to come out (just look at the long list of nVidia beta drivers that have been leaked)."
What the HELL? NO, VIDEO CARD DRIVERS WILL NOT COME OUT ANYMORE. Can you PLEASE refrain from stating the painfully obvious, mr. moron?
"We can't count on ASUS reconsidering releasing these. I think the solution this time rests on the game designers, in the form of some kind of driver signing / certification, a la Microsoft. Don't have a certified driver? Can't play the game."
Oh, that's gonna make Open Source guys very happy. You so lack an opinion it's saddening. You piece of shit.
"I don't know a lot about 3D, at all (I hope Carmack replies to this story)."
SO THERE WE HAVE IT.
All you did was write a drivel aimed at LURING Carmack into replying to your post. All the pathetic stuff you wrote, the uninformed drivel, the lack of opinion and the statement of the obvious had one goal: to LURE CARMACK OUT. You are a pathetic, miserable pile of goatshit whose only hope for glory is to have a Slashdot personality reply to your message. You should be shot. You don't even deserved to be pissed on by Carmack.
"You'll see that the worst cheat in this driver is the "see through walls" and "wireframe" modes."
It helps that it was stated in the Slashdot article. Moron.
"I hope we can learn from our previous battles with cheating. Though I don't think this will do much in the long run, I hope that game companies show that they are not pleased with the decision of ASUS."
Your needlepoint-wide view of the world is almost sickening. You aren't even worthy of being called a karma whore. My reply to your post is more attention than you ever deserved. You should lie down and die, and spare the rest of Slashdot your uninformed opinion. Hamsters mock your wit. Leeches flaunt their intellectual superiority over you. Your mother is so dumb, she raised a placenta and ate the baby at birth. If you were a 3D card, you'd wonder what a polygon is. I fart in your general direction. Your anus throbs with friendly pain. Fuck you. A pox on you, and for 7 generations!
Jesus Hemos Christ. It refers to the belief of many Slashdotters that the Slashdot editors are the closest geekdom knows to sainthood. It also refers to 'Jesus Hemorroids Christ', hinting at what most Slashdotters would also like to do to the aforementioned Slashdot editors.
The very same thing, of course, is happening to "geeks, Goths and freaks" all over the United States today, post-Columbine.
This was as easy to predict as Independence Day falling on the 4th of July: KatzBot had to plug Columbine in there, and mark the parallel between X-Men and the alienation of geeks.
To whoever coded the KatzBot: great job.
(To moderators: don't mark this post as Insightful just because it's flaming Katz. Mark it as Flamebait, cause it's what it is. Oh, and see if I care.)
It's absolutely true: the unofficial goal of places of higher education is to get drunk at least four times a week with like-minded people. No trolling in that!
Not everyone probably condones drinking, but it's a fact: getting drunk out of your minds with others creates social bonds (not to mention the off-chance of getting laid.) If you put a bunch of drunk physicists together, they'll ramble about physics. It's actually a great way to produce off-the-walls ideas.
My favorite drunken memory was arguing vehemently about whether or not addition was metaphysically inductive or deductive, while being hit on by a beauty from the Liberal Arts dept.
Plus, seeing one of the rising stars of mathematical physics so drunk he was playing Spiderman on the wall makes for vivid memories and a welcomed dose of humility.
Hey there. I've stuck around, just tired of posting unless something really piques my interest, which your comment did.:)
I understand the distinction you make... The point is noted! Indeed, there are a lot of problems with Microsoft products, but I felt it worthwhile to point out that trying to create a product that is easy to use is not a flaw. Microsoft's flaw, in my opinion, is confusing 'easy to use' with 'easy to mess up'.
As for Assembler, it may be very powerful, but it stands in my mind as very user-unfriendly. Old-school hackers may call it the ultimate language, but I dunno... I kinda like using a flexible editor and strong, intuitive language! Even if that marks me as less 'hardcore'. And no, that doesn't mean I'd like a paperclip to comment my code!:)
You are perfectly right, however, in pointing out that COBOL and DOS BATs are very good examples as well.:)
I'm sorry, but your comments rank of elitism to me. What's wrong with a programming language that's both powerful and easy to use? Should developpers create language that are purposefully obscure and contrived in order to deter script kiddies?
Ease of use and platform access have nothing to do with the inherent dangers of a programming language. Ideally, a programming language should be powerful enough to let you do anything with the hardware short of exploding the monitor, and easy enough to use that a baby can get some serious modeling done.
Security aspects of the code arise when people are capable of doing stuff to your programs that wasn't intended as per the design specs. In large part, the responsibility for this lies on the programmer, and not a lot on the company that developped the compiler and language. Of course, this is where C# is most likely gonna suck, much like VB does.
But don't say a powerful and easy to use language is a bad thing. Cause otherwise, we might as well all go back to Assembler.
I remember when I started playing with Lego Minstorms, I couldn't help thinking, 'Hell, I wish I had THAT when I was a kid.' I can't think of a better way to teach a kid how to program, and do Object-Oriented Programming, no less. It's very easy to understand, and you see a direct relationship between the code and the result. For instance, you'll be able to physically illustrate a FOR or an infinite loop with insane ease.
And really, it's a toy that evolves with you. If 30 year-old jaded programmers can still get a kick out of it, imagine a kid... He'll probably wear it down before he gets tired of it!
Hrm. New around here, aye? The 'First Post' phenomenon has been going on for so long, I'm willing to bet before God created the Universe, someone yelled 'First photon!'
What can I say, except: try it out for yourself, you'll see if you like it. I've been guilty of a few first posts in my days, until I realized what an empty pleasure it was... It's like cigarette, though, you just can't explain it.
You know what the scary, scary thing about this is? Even though Vigor was created on purpose to be annoying and evil, at least it doesn't allow for the type of security hole that the real paperclip suffers from. And let that be a testament to M$ security!
Personally, I like the Guards books, though I felt that Jingo was a bit of a let-down. The best books, IMHO, are the Death books (Mort, Reaper Man, Soul Music, Hogfather.) Hogfather, in particular, was brilliant, dark, witty and unsettling. Death is Pratchett's favourite character, and it shows.
Slipped my mind. Anyway, you could argue that if a comment is going to be moderated up, then one is less of a karma whore for using the +1 bonus, since it will take less moderation points to raise the comment to +5.
At any rate, given that I post about one comment per week now, if I'm a karma whore, I'm a very, very patient one.
As a matter of fact, just to disprove your point, I invite any wandering moderator to moderate this very post you're now reading down to oblivion. If you're worried about meta-moderation, remember 'Overrated' doesn't get meta-moderated.
Really, you occasional trolls seem more obsessed about karma than regular posters. It may come as something of a shock, but I personally don't care whether a post of mine goes through the roof or falls down to -1.
One author who is often compared to you in terms of style and humor is Terry Pratchett of Discworld fame. What is your opinion of Pratchett's work? Do you agree or disagree with the comparisons between your works?
What, your first computer had a hard drive and a modem? Dude, that's so high tech! My first computer didn't have a HDD nor a modem, I had to plug it on a 10" B&W TV, it had 4K of RAM and I was ecstatic the day I could upgrade to 16K.
Let's see, now, I bet someone will tell us how his first computer was an abacus. That's what always happens in these conversations.:)
You'd expect a so-called technology supporter would promote something like DVD. What's the matter, it wasn't developped by ILM or LucasArts? Why is it that even Star Wars IV: A New Hope is not available on DVD, and that Raiders of the Lost Ark is just coming out?
I'm amazed at how big a technological boat Lucas is missing here. This is mind-boggling, until you realize that Lucas has always been motivated by profit. No, Ep. 1 is not available on DVD, but please, buy this $30 VHS package with lots of crap inside so we make a little more money off of you.
Anybody who has a DVD player should boycott the VHS release and wait. Don't justify this shameless money-grabbing scheme. I know it's probably too much to ask for a boycott of Star Wars (we're so spineless), but at least stick to your guns when it comes to buying it in video.
I don't think you need absolutely bad reviews to augment credibility of the reviews on this site, nor do I think it means Slashdot is sold out to book dealers. Most of the reviews I see here (except the crappy movie reviews by Katz) are books or movies that are interesting to the Slashdot community in the first place, and I tremendously enjoy the SF book reviews of SF classics, because it allows me to catch up on what I missed.
Besides, review sites just come across as arrogant snobs by picking on a movie or book from time to time. It sounds as if they have a 'quota' of bad reviews, and latch on to some movies that don't deserve it. I prefer a clear review of a book or movie, pointing out target audience, strengths and flaws, to a total destruction of someone's work. The former is much more productive and useful anyway.
Slashdot Mirror
*sigh* Unless I hit that magical bitchslapping spot of Rob's, this bloody kharma will last me all summer, and probably part of the fall...
Hah. You think I'll give your words consideration when you're posting as Anonymous Coward? Think again.
Hush. I know you're replying to a post marked -1, but a zealous moderator might overhear you!
"I sincerely hope that we've learned something from these games. I believe that lesson is that we need technical solutions to cheating in online games, because suppressing cheat software is doomed to failure."
Once again, the great Geek-Inspired Drivel: Technological Solutions to Social Problems(tm). What the heck are we supposed to do about this problem? Should we understand what prompts a human to cheating? No, let's try to fix it with our little lines of code. And besides, who is 'we'? I am sure Id and Blizzard learned nothing from either game, besides how to make shitloads more of money. Why should they care about a few 1337 losers cheating?
"Most (99%+) multiplayer gamers (first person shooters especially) really and truly respect the integrity of the game. If the integrity is destroyed for me, the game has lost all of its fun."
Good. Maybe you'll go out for air and sex then.
"I don't understand cheating, but the fact is that it can utterly ruin a game (Again, both Diablo and QW. Diablo never recovered, but the QW community seems to be making progress)."
You are so pathetic. You don't understand cheating? How come you know all about cheating in Quakeworld and Diablo? How come you claim it is easier to code an aimbot than program a driver? You seem to know an awful lot about cheating, yet you claim not to understand it. I bet you go on GameFaqs all the time.
"The solutions to the Diablo and QW problems were both technical."
Says your pathetic, narrow-minded nerd view of the world.
"It's clear that video card drivers are bound to come out (just look at the long list of nVidia beta drivers that have been leaked)."
What the HELL? NO, VIDEO CARD DRIVERS WILL NOT COME OUT ANYMORE. Can you PLEASE refrain from stating the painfully obvious, mr. moron?
"We can't count on ASUS reconsidering releasing these. I think the solution this time rests on the game designers, in the form of some kind of driver signing / certification, a la Microsoft. Don't have a certified driver? Can't play the game."
Oh, that's gonna make Open Source guys very happy. You so lack an opinion it's saddening. You piece of shit.
"I don't know a lot about 3D, at all (I hope Carmack replies to this story)."
SO THERE WE HAVE IT.
All you did was write a drivel aimed at LURING Carmack into replying to your post. All the pathetic stuff you wrote, the uninformed drivel, the lack of opinion and the statement of the obvious had one goal: to LURE CARMACK OUT. You are a pathetic, miserable pile of goatshit whose only hope for glory is to have a Slashdot personality reply to your message. You should be shot. You don't even deserved to be pissed on by Carmack.
"You'll see that the worst cheat in this driver is the "see through walls" and "wireframe" modes."
It helps that it was stated in the Slashdot article. Moron.
"I hope we can learn from our previous battles with cheating. Though I don't think this will do much in the long run, I hope that game companies show that they are not pleased with the decision of ASUS."
Your needlepoint-wide view of the world is almost sickening. You aren't even worthy of being called a karma whore. My reply to your post is more attention than you ever deserved. You should lie down and die, and spare the rest of Slashdot your uninformed opinion. Hamsters mock your wit. Leeches flaunt their intellectual superiority over you. Your mother is so dumb, she raised a placenta and ate the baby at birth. If you were a 3D card, you'd wonder what a polygon is. I fart in your general direction. Your anus throbs with friendly pain. Fuck you. A pox on you, and for 7 generations!
Blow me.
--Enoch Root, the Human Karma Torch
--Enoch Root, the Human Karma Torch
Thanks, you're right. What is the Exploration Mars addon?
Jesus Hemos Christ. It refers to the belief of many Slashdotters that the Slashdot editors are the closest geekdom knows to sainthood. It also refers to 'Jesus Hemorroids Christ', hinting at what most Slashdotters would also like to do to the aforementioned Slashdot editors.
Not to give moderators too much credit, but it *might* have been somebody trying to be funny. I have to admit it made me laugh.
-- Enoch Root, the Karma Human Torch
This was as easy to predict as Independence Day falling on the 4th of July: KatzBot had to plug Columbine in there, and mark the parallel between X-Men and the alienation of geeks.
To whoever coded the KatzBot: great job.
(To moderators: don't mark this post as Insightful just because it's flaming Katz. Mark it as Flamebait, cause it's what it is. Oh, and see if I care.)
--Enoch Root, the Karma Human Torch
How does Police Academy foretells the Apocalypse?
Now I need to watch Wizard of Oz, Godfather, Dark Side of the Moon, Police Academy and Little Mermaid again... Man.
Not everyone probably condones drinking, but it's a fact: getting drunk out of your minds with others creates social bonds (not to mention the off-chance of getting laid.) If you put a bunch of drunk physicists together, they'll ramble about physics. It's actually a great way to produce off-the-walls ideas.
My favorite drunken memory was arguing vehemently about whether or not addition was metaphysically inductive or deductive, while being hit on by a beauty from the Liberal Arts dept.
Plus, seeing one of the rising stars of mathematical physics so drunk he was playing Spiderman on the wall makes for vivid memories and a welcomed dose of humility.
I understand the distinction you make... The point is noted! Indeed, there are a lot of problems with Microsoft products, but I felt it worthwhile to point out that trying to create a product that is easy to use is not a flaw. Microsoft's flaw, in my opinion, is confusing 'easy to use' with 'easy to mess up'.
As for Assembler, it may be very powerful, but it stands in my mind as very user-unfriendly. Old-school hackers may call it the ultimate language, but I dunno... I kinda like using a flexible editor and strong, intuitive language! Even if that marks me as less 'hardcore'. And no, that doesn't mean I'd like a paperclip to comment my code! :)
You are perfectly right, however, in pointing out that COBOL and DOS BATs are very good examples as well. :)
Ease of use and platform access have nothing to do with the inherent dangers of a programming language. Ideally, a programming language should be powerful enough to let you do anything with the hardware short of exploding the monitor, and easy enough to use that a baby can get some serious modeling done.
Security aspects of the code arise when people are capable of doing stuff to your programs that wasn't intended as per the design specs. In large part, the responsibility for this lies on the programmer, and not a lot on the company that developped the compiler and language. Of course, this is where C# is most likely gonna suck, much like VB does.
But don't say a powerful and easy to use language is a bad thing. Cause otherwise, we might as well all go back to Assembler.
And really, it's a toy that evolves with you. If 30 year-old jaded programmers can still get a kick out of it, imagine a kid... He'll probably wear it down before he gets tired of it!
Lego Mindstorms Website
What can I say, except: try it out for yourself, you'll see if you like it. I've been guilty of a few first posts in my days, until I realized what an empty pleasure it was... It's like cigarette, though, you just can't explain it.
You know what the scary, scary thing about this is? Even though Vigor was created on purpose to be annoying and evil, at least it doesn't allow for the type of security hole that the real paperclip suffers from. And let that be a testament to M$ security!
Hey, I think this is a good time to mention Microsith... These are people who understood the true nature of the talking paperclip!
Personally, I like the Guards books, though I felt that Jingo was a bit of a let-down. The best books, IMHO, are the Death books (Mort, Reaper Man, Soul Music, Hogfather.) Hogfather, in particular, was brilliant, dark, witty and unsettling. Death is Pratchett's favourite character, and it shows.
At any rate, given that I post about one comment per week now, if I'm a karma whore, I'm a very, very patient one.
As a matter of fact, just to disprove your point, I invite any wandering moderator to moderate this very post you're now reading down to oblivion. If you're worried about meta-moderation, remember 'Overrated' doesn't get meta-moderated.
Really, you occasional trolls seem more obsessed about karma than regular posters. It may come as something of a shock, but I personally don't care whether a post of mine goes through the roof or falls down to -1.
One author who is often compared to you in terms of style and humor is Terry Pratchett of Discworld fame. What is your opinion of Pratchett's work? Do you agree or disagree with the comparisons between your works?
Let's see, now, I bet someone will tell us how his first computer was an abacus. That's what always happens in these conversations. :)
You'd expect a so-called technology supporter would promote something like DVD. What's the matter, it wasn't developped by ILM or LucasArts? Why is it that even Star Wars IV: A New Hope is not available on DVD, and that Raiders of the Lost Ark is just coming out?
I'm amazed at how big a technological boat Lucas is missing here. This is mind-boggling, until you realize that Lucas has always been motivated by profit. No, Ep. 1 is not available on DVD, but please, buy this $30 VHS package with lots of crap inside so we make a little more money off of you.
Anybody who has a DVD player should boycott the VHS release and wait. Don't justify this shameless money-grabbing scheme. I know it's probably too much to ask for a boycott of Star Wars (we're so spineless), but at least stick to your guns when it comes to buying it in video.
Besides, review sites just come across as arrogant snobs by picking on a movie or book from time to time. It sounds as if they have a 'quota' of bad reviews, and latch on to some movies that don't deserve it. I prefer a clear review of a book or movie, pointing out target audience, strengths and flaws, to a total destruction of someone's work. The former is much more productive and useful anyway.
They considered running NT servers, but they didn't have the $8,000,000 for the licenses and the 4 TB of disk space. :)