Who are (and how many of them) the corporates interested in Exchange features and advanced 3D support at the same time? Granted, Exchange is perhaps the easiest to implement but it's still only one of the implementations of IMAP protocol. There are others and if nothing else, they are based on standards.
Outlook? That's just pathetic!
When was the last time you tried any of the Linux desktops?
I also wonder how did you manage to miss clipboard and fonts arguments.
It's already 28th down here in NZ. I don't know if it's karma, sign from the above or something else but my, so far pretty stubborn, teenage son had just asked me to wipe Win98 of his PC and install Linux instead. I'm just glad that it happened on Linus' birthday.
How would I put it best - sig is the answer to your question, I guess:o). It's nothing bad (there's a bit in brackets underneat - they wouldn't put bad stuff on web, wouldn't they?).
You know, the only thing required on Red Hat machine is to click on RHN icon. How hard is that? No dependencies, no rpm knowledge required and definitelly no kernel recompile needed. SuSE has similar update service, Mandrake as well.
All these services are far superior and easier to use than windows update.
The reason were 2 posts above mine. They were moded trolls and mine would appear as such also. I hate being moded as troll whenever I tell what I think of Microsoft and their OS. I do not care about karma, that would be just retarded.
I stand behind every word I ever said about windows - it isn't half-assed blubbering for the sake of it, it's my opinion based on experience I have day-in-day-out supporting both products for years.
Windows server and windows desktop are from hell. Linux is not.
This technique, although effective in some cases, still doesn't provide complete peace of mind and full 8 hours uninterrupted sleep. Here's what you ought to do:
1. Before machine boots windows for the first time, go to your BIOS settings and make sure CD ROM is the first boot device
2. Put one of the following CDs in your CD drive:
- Red Hat 9 (CD1)
- Fedora Core 1 (CD1)
- Mandrake 9.x (CD1)
- SuSE > 8 (CD1)
- Knoppix (latest)
- Hell, even Debian would do:o)
(choice is entirely yours, WE DON'T NEED NO FLAME WARS AROUND THIS MINOR ISSUE)
3. Save BIOS setup changes and reboot
4. Follow install prompts
5. When all done, reboot (only once is what's required)
6. Use your new shiny computer as you're pleased
7. Once you learn more about Linux, you'll find how to patch your machine against bugs and security flaws. Yes, they exist and some of them are exploitable remotelly, so learn quickly. However, none of those bugs/holes will expose your PC to worms such as Blaster - your first experince with Linux PC connected to Internet will be more pleasant and MUCH safer than with any version of Windows. Oh yes, if you happen to have permanent Internet connection - much cheaper as well - you won't get any spyware or data-mining cookies sneaked onto your computer, work of which you can only see when you get your ISP bill at the end of the month (if you haven't downloaded much and you're not running web/mail server, just compare up and downstream traffic on your Internet connection).
Mods - mod as troll all you want. I am not trolling, though - these are the facts. Windows really sucks.
I am able to make this argument when giving system proposals for my own customers, SBs mostly.
On my full-time job, there are 3 of us in the company with Linux expert status (bit exaggerated but seems that we know what we're doing:o) and we're not even asked for input on any legal issues. I guess that's how it works in companies with clueful management - they've got lawyers, why would they want to listen what bunch of zealots have to say about IP issues?
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It's become amusing looking at all these dumb moderations. Informative?!? Jesus Freaking Christ. I hope to meet you in metamod.
Yeah but rather than wait for someone at MS to release a patch, people would install it from elsewhere and won't ever get fed-up with crapy software from Redmond.
Microsoft recently extended full protection to its users, should they be sued for using Windows. Why are the large vendors of the Linux community such as IBM, Redhat, and SuSe being so niggardly?
Funny you'd asked this question without hinting at obvious answer - perhaps because at Microsoft they know exactly what UNIX algorhytms have they used in NT kernel? Whole fucking TCP stack used to be derived of BSD code. Or maybe becuase this is one more way to spread FUD?
Linux kernel have had so many contributors over 10+ years that it is virtually impossible to have a compact group that would know every bit of kernel code. In case there is an infringment (which I really doubt, especially deliberate one), all Darl ought to say is where the code is and offending kernel tree will be patched and distributed in no time.
Somehow, as this saga unfolds, I can't see this happening. Probably because there is nothing to show. And with every day passing by, I am more and more convinced that all this crap is initiated by Microsoft and that Bob Young is, as he usually is, right - there is only one entity that benefited from SCO case so far - Microsoft. And a pockets of few SCO executives.
Exactly. This is only good for Microsoft. They've got their ways of convincing masses why anything that comes out in press is actually good and why is Microsoft the one to praise.
They have thousands of programmers, let them move their butts and do their fucking job. More holes in IE, easier to convince people to switch to Mozilla.
Damn right. I wonder if anybody else in this world still cares about what SCO crackheads have to say. Yet, we poor/.ers have to see and read every bloody Darl's tirade.
I say, fuck them. Please, editors - post next SCO story when IBM kills them.
So what happens with the sterile genetic material gets incorporated into a virus? Then as (normal) trees become infected with this virus, they also become sterile?
If you want to be really picky. However, did you also know that statistics show that 62% of all people who read that line from my original post, would have spent 1 minute or more actually spelling numbers?
Who are (and how many of them) the corporates interested in Exchange features and advanced 3D support at the same time? Granted, Exchange is perhaps the easiest to implement but it's still only one of the implementations of IMAP protocol. There are others and if nothing else, they are based on standards.
Outlook? That's just pathetic!
When was the last time you tried any of the Linux desktops?
I also wonder how did you manage to miss clipboard and fonts arguments.
It's already 28th down here in NZ. I don't know if it's karma, sign from the above or something else but my, so far pretty stubborn, teenage son had just asked me to wipe Win98 of his PC and install Linux instead. I'm just glad that it happened on Linus' birthday.
He finds that choice wierd but perhaps his friends are sending a message?
Yes but he said he had SuSE, not dual boot. If he did, he wouldn't need to buy a FAT license - he'd have windows already.
Why in hell would you want to do that?
Well, I guess this statement gives you an answer why MS, Bill Gates, Ballmer... have so much money and you, my friend, never will.
I've stopped reading your post here but I think I also saw figure of $100 M in there. Does line containing this figure say what I thought it would?
How would I put it best - sig is the answer to your question, I guess :o). It's nothing bad (there's a bit in brackets underneat - they wouldn't put bad stuff on web, wouldn't they?).
Nope just confirming what you said.
All these services are far superior and easier to use than windows update.
I stand behind every word I ever said about windows - it isn't half-assed blubbering for the sake of it, it's my opinion based on experience I have day-in-day-out supporting both products for years.
Windows server and windows desktop are from hell. Linux is not.
This technique, although effective in some cases, still doesn't provide complete peace of mind and full 8 hours uninterrupted sleep. Here's what you ought to do:
:o)
1. Before machine boots windows for the first time, go to your BIOS settings and make sure CD ROM is the first boot device
2. Put one of the following CDs in your CD drive:
- Red Hat 9 (CD1)
- Fedora Core 1 (CD1)
- Mandrake 9.x (CD1)
- SuSE > 8 (CD1)
- Knoppix (latest)
- Hell, even Debian would do
(choice is entirely yours, WE DON'T NEED NO FLAME WARS AROUND THIS MINOR ISSUE)
3. Save BIOS setup changes and reboot
4. Follow install prompts
5. When all done, reboot (only once is what's required)
6. Use your new shiny computer as you're pleased
7. Once you learn more about Linux, you'll find how to patch your machine against bugs and security flaws. Yes, they exist and some of them are exploitable remotelly, so learn quickly. However, none of those bugs/holes will expose your PC to worms such as Blaster - your first experince with Linux PC connected to Internet will be more pleasant and MUCH safer than with any version of Windows. Oh yes, if you happen to have permanent Internet connection - much cheaper as well - you won't get any spyware or data-mining cookies sneaked onto your computer, work of which you can only see when you get your ISP bill at the end of the month (if you haven't downloaded much and you're not running web/mail server, just compare up and downstream traffic on your Internet connection).
Mods - mod as troll all you want. I am not trolling, though - these are the facts. Windows really sucks.
On my full-time job, there are 3 of us in the company with Linux expert status (bit exaggerated but seems that we know what we're doing :o) and we're not even asked for input on any legal issues. I guess that's how it works in companies with clueful management - they've got lawyers, why would they want to listen what bunch of zealots have to say about IP issues?
It's become amusing looking at all these dumb moderations. Informative?!? Jesus Freaking Christ. I hope to meet you in metamod.
Michael, Michael... again reading /. while at work.
Krilomir, you haave no business discussing movies / books in which you don't exist. Go back to Middle Earth.
Yeah but rather than wait for someone at MS to release a patch, people would install it from elsewhere and won't ever get fed-up with crapy software from Redmond.
How do you know he's not a German lawyer?
Funny you'd asked this question without hinting at obvious answer - perhaps because at Microsoft they know exactly what UNIX algorhytms have they used in NT kernel? Whole fucking TCP stack used to be derived of BSD code. Or maybe becuase this is one more way to spread FUD?
Linux kernel have had so many contributors over 10+ years that it is virtually impossible to have a compact group that would know every bit of kernel code. In case there is an infringment (which I really doubt, especially deliberate one), all Darl ought to say is where the code is and offending kernel tree will be patched and distributed in no time.
Somehow, as this saga unfolds, I can't see this happening. Probably because there is nothing to show. And with every day passing by, I am more and more convinced that all this crap is initiated by Microsoft and that Bob Young is, as he usually is, right - there is only one entity that benefited from SCO case so far - Microsoft. And a pockets of few SCO executives.
They have thousands of programmers, let them move their butts and do their fucking job. More holes in IE, easier to convince people to switch to Mozilla.
Funny that you need to post this shit AC. Are you a:
1] Moron?
2] Idiot?
3] Crackhead?
4] Just Plain Stupid?
I say, fuck them. Please, editors - post next SCO story when IBM kills them.
No. We'll install Linux for them.
If you want to be really picky. However, did you also know that statistics show that 62% of all people who read that line from my original post, would have spent 1 minute or more actually spelling numbers?
Yeah. But did you know that if you spell numbers starting from 1 (one), you have to get to one thousand before you encounter first letter a?
In addition, they would do the right thing if they implement filters like my ISP did recently. Filter works and comes with no extra (NPI) charge.