From what I can see this is a company that is just starting up. This thing that they are selling, in my opinion, is pretty overpriced.
Actually, this research team has been around in some form for about twelve years. Early prototypes were too heavy to lift and needed to be carted around. They had an operating range limited by the length of cable, usually about 500 feet, and they had some satellite proof-of-concept. They kept at it, though, and the current product, whatever its faults, is a viable commercial product. You probably shouldn't pick faults unless you are willing to put in that kind of effort yourself. What has the last dozen years of your life produced other than worthless Slashdot trolling?
Bullshit, MIT is elite. You must be missing something, because if you could pack a micro-atx motherboard into a duffel bag, plug in some pci cards and hook it up to some car batteries, then you would certainly be working at this world-renowned institution right now. You disdain proves my point qed. MIT is #1 in engineering, everybody knows this.
It's obvious why half of the fundamental computing technologies have come from MIT. They set high standards, their solutions are elegant, and they always stay ahead of the curve.
They set up their wearable computing lab seven or eight years ago already. They were patient and the market came to them. Now they are reaping the rewards. Kudos to MIT, another job well done.
Still, I think this guy underestimates how easy/cheap it would be. I'd donate a few bucks to such a PAC, but I'm not rich. And if we all banded together somehow, and wanted to votefuck Hollings when he's up for re-election, could we win? Imagine that we somehow come up with enough cash to mount a decent tv ad campaign. We'd still be the new guys, and they would retaliate. Does anyone believe they are somehow above lying and namecalling?
Well, in order to play political hardball you need political expertise. Open Source has some teams, like the EFF, OSI, and RSA that have legal experience now. But they are not very political.
There was a guy on here last week from the SEIU union who was suggesting that open source could team up with a union for real political backing. Typically, the idea was pretty much ignored which is too bad because it would work. I think you are overestimating the fact that this is still pretty achievable goal, OSS just needs to pull together and line up with the right players.
You're trying to keep benzene out of the water and toxic shit out of the air.
This is exactly the kind of environmentalist junk science that scares me. Most environmental toxicities are greatly exaggerated through years of assumptions, questionable research practices, and the environmentalist lobby. This is documented. It's time to face facts and realize that if what we've been doing is wrong then it probably would have killed us by now.
The earth is very big and rather aged, by contrast you are a mere blip on its lifespan. Passing new restrictive laws is arrogant and dangerous, it implies that your naive assumptions are worth risking my life and everyone else's. People need food and jobs before anything else.
It's easier to finance the recycling program if it gets money up front than if it has no money until people start recycling the things, wouldn't you agree?
Not really. Ultimately it just makes the product more expensive for the lower-income bracket to get on board. More expense is not what we shoot for in this country. Markets solve problems best, and they work best when they are largely left alone. If the market can tolerate recycling fees then they will persist, otherwise they will go away. What you are suggesting is more like socailism where we pay more for less. This thinking will make us less competitive in the long run.
I suffer from the inverse problem, which is AAS, or Abnormal Attention Span. When most of my fellow programmers are gee-whizzing the soda delivery, I'm usually stuck in a brain-loop over some programming problem. When they go home at five, I can't resist the urge to stick around and run more tests.
It sounds like a blessing, but it's a curse in disguise. My teammates usually like me at first, but over the long run it's difficult not to show them up. Managers like me even less, because five minutes into a conversation it becomes apparent that I've thought through their business model much more than they have. Interviewing is even worse, try explaining to an interviewer that programming is essentially irrelevant and that most coding problems will resolve themselves if everyone simply slows down and concentrates on the task at hand.
I do love myself, but it's not entirely my fault. I went to school for CS and it just made my problem worse. After taking a few CS classes, I found myself really able to plan and articulate a project in advance. I took this skill into the workplace and now everyone looks at me like I'm some sort of alien.
My behavior is all weird to them. I fix bugs without being told, I iterate software and add features as needed. I test a lot, my documentation is more interesting than the code, and the code itself is fast and virtually bug-free. With all my crazy ideas about 'planning' and 'taking the long view,' people are always surprised when I get my work done. It's usually better than theirs, and it pisses them off.
Thus, AAS is a serious condition for me, because it means I am always one step away from insubortinating myself out of a job. I need coping mechanisms, and these, I find, work the best:
1. Avoid management. The less they know about me, the more they will assume that I'm just another mindless drone.
2. Let the weird guy run the project, even if it hurts. Might suck for the customer, but hey, I'm just here to do a job.
3. Dress down, leave fashion, taste, and lifestyle at home. No reason to scare the zoo animals at the office with the idea that I'm even better at living than I am at programming.
4. Work the social aspect. Like I said, my workmates tend to look up to me at first, so if I can make friends with them they become great allies. But in some workplaces, there is so little social networking that this isn't even an option.
So really what it boils down to is remaining inconspicuous. It's impossible over the long-term. Sometimes I wish I could give myself a lobotomy. If only I could find a way to be stupider, I could build myself a killer career.
Working those odd hours does not enable the company to manage me effectively, and I can't be a resource for my fellow employees.
Well then you are probably doing something wrong huh? At my last job we worked all hours and our productivity was fine. Being in the office with the team is fun, but this is the 21st century already, there are alternate forms of communication. You should be able to get by just fine with email, aim, and web, otherwise i suspect you are probably not much of a computer geek. Look at open source, that has pretty much disproved the theory that the office environment is necessary for good software development.
Ginseng turns out to be pure BS according to the guy who wrote the article.
Yeah I am not surprised. If that stuff worked then there would probably be some awarness of it by now. I usually just drink caffeine and take a ritalin before deadlines. Really, how is grapefruit juice supposed to do anything? It is just sugar water, not much different than soda except for the caffeine.
Better living through chemistry, that sounds nice, you should probably stick with that. But maybe you need some better chemistry.
As a project manager, I introduced extreme programming and my team quadrupled their output overnight. And this is with six of us sitting in a garage with cheap office furnature.
Right. I think what you are saying is that when you stopped whipping them in your garage and gave them some actual human contact, they were a little happier huh? Maybe you learned a lesson that treating programmers like human beings pays off in the end.
A good office environment meets the needs of the workers. Good social contact, this is why nerf toys are popular. Some time to relax, play games, free perks like soda don't hurt either. If you make it fun, you can expect a lot. Quadrupal is nothing. Next try fixing your furniture.
I gather you can at least figure out the KOffice API if you know Python, but Hancom doesn't even provide that much info.
You are nitpicking a bit don't you think? This is the first major productivity app from Korea and all you want to know is where is the 300 page manual. Wake up, this is the 21st century, software doesn't come with a huge manual anymore. Like it would be easy for a new company like Hanscom to put together this kind of documentation either. Where are the APIs for Windows and Linux? Meanwhile, these are american, it should be easy for them.
apart from the fact that this is out for linux now, it doesn't seem all that impressive.
I think you're missing the point, which is that products like Hanscom Office indicate that east asia is finally 'getting' software. This is significant, because open source ideally would tap the resources of the world programming community, not just the english-language speakers and Eastern Europeans. I'm surprised that asian language keyboarding has come far enough to allow this kind of cross-collaboration. Just a few years ago, multi-language support was still a huge problem.
Did you expect front-line productivity apps from Korea in 2002 any more than people expected Korean cars in 1990? Now they are virtually dominating. This is the inevitable progression of any industry. Products that are considered mundane are picked up by developing third-world industries, and the rest of us push the envelope.
Hanscom has authored a full-featured application suite, even though this is in a part of the world where piracy is taken almost for granted. I think they deserve a little bit of credit. Maybe you think that just because it doesn't Go or Be that it's not worth its salt? Just because it is Korean doesn't mean you should be putting it down.
Fortunately, it looks like AT&T's rather permissive licensing of VNC may allow the project to continue after the lab's demise. This site has a pretty good discussion of some of the ways that other people inside AT&T might be able to keep the project afloat, and possibly even convince the behemoth to open-source this great little program.
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Appleworks looks fine on screen, but refuses to print Chinese properly and has problems understanding cut and paste in Chinese.
I have trouble understanding Appleworks, what makes you think the Chinese are any better at it?
From what I can see this is a company that is just starting up. This thing that they are selling, in my opinion, is pretty overpriced.
Actually, this research team has been around in some form for about twelve years. Early prototypes were too heavy to lift and needed to be carted around. They had an operating range limited by the length of cable, usually about 500 feet, and they had some satellite proof-of-concept. They kept at it, though, and the current product, whatever its faults, is a viable commercial product. You probably shouldn't pick faults unless you are willing to put in that kind of effort yourself. What has the last dozen years of your life produced other than worthless Slashdot trolling?
Figures MIT guys would come up with this crap
Bullshit, MIT is elite. You must be missing something, because if you could pack a micro-atx motherboard into a duffel bag, plug in some pci cards and hook it up to some car batteries, then you would certainly be working at this world-renowned institution right now. You disdain proves my point qed. MIT is #1 in engineering, everybody knows this.
It's obvious why half of the fundamental computing technologies have come from MIT. They set high standards, their solutions are elegant, and they always stay ahead of the curve.
They set up their wearable computing lab seven or eight years ago already. They were patient and the market came to them. Now they are reaping the rewards. Kudos to MIT, another job well done.
Still, I think this guy underestimates how easy/cheap it would be. I'd donate a few bucks to such a PAC, but I'm not rich. And if we all banded together somehow, and wanted to votefuck Hollings when he's up for re-election, could we win? Imagine that we somehow come up with enough cash to mount a decent tv ad campaign. We'd still be the new guys, and they would retaliate. Does anyone believe they are somehow above lying and namecalling?
Well, in order to play political hardball you need political expertise. Open Source has some teams, like the EFF, OSI, and RSA that have legal experience now. But they are not very political.
There was a guy on here last week from the SEIU union who was suggesting that open source could team up with a union for real political backing. Typically, the idea was pretty much ignored which is too bad because it would work. I think you are overestimating the fact that this is still pretty achievable goal, OSS just needs to pull together and line up with the right players.
You're trying to keep benzene out of the water and toxic shit out of the air.
This is exactly the kind of environmentalist junk science that scares me. Most environmental toxicities are greatly exaggerated through years of assumptions, questionable research practices, and the environmentalist lobby. This is documented. It's time to face facts and realize that if what we've been doing is wrong then it probably would have killed us by now.
The earth is very big and rather aged, by contrast you are a mere blip on its lifespan. Passing new restrictive laws is arrogant and dangerous, it implies that your naive assumptions are worth risking my life and everyone else's. People need food and jobs before anything else.
It's easier to finance the recycling program if it gets money up front than if it has no money until people start recycling the things, wouldn't you agree?
Not really. Ultimately it just makes the product more expensive for the lower-income bracket to get on board. More expense is not what we shoot for in this country. Markets solve problems best, and they work best when they are largely left alone. If the market can tolerate recycling fees then they will persist, otherwise they will go away. What you are suggesting is more like socailism where we pay more for less. This thinking will make us less competitive in the long run.
I suffer from the inverse problem, which is AAS, or Abnormal Attention Span. When most of my fellow programmers are gee-whizzing the soda delivery, I'm usually stuck in a brain-loop over some programming problem. When they go home at five, I can't resist the urge to stick around and run more tests.
It sounds like a blessing, but it's a curse in disguise. My teammates usually like me at first, but over the long run it's difficult not to show them up. Managers like me even less, because five minutes into a conversation it becomes apparent that I've thought through their business model much more than they have. Interviewing is even worse, try explaining to an interviewer that programming is essentially irrelevant and that most coding problems will resolve themselves if everyone simply slows down and concentrates on the task at hand.
I do love myself, but it's not entirely my fault. I went to school for CS and it just made my problem worse. After taking a few CS classes, I found myself really able to plan and articulate a project in advance. I took this skill into the workplace and now everyone looks at me like I'm some sort of alien.
My behavior is all weird to them. I fix bugs without being told, I iterate software and add features as needed. I test a lot, my documentation is more interesting than the code, and the code itself is fast and virtually bug-free. With all my crazy ideas about 'planning' and 'taking the long view,' people are always surprised when I get my work done. It's usually better than theirs, and it pisses them off.
Thus, AAS is a serious condition for me, because it means I am always one step away from insubortinating myself out of a job. I need coping mechanisms, and these, I find, work the best:
1. Avoid management. The less they know about me, the more they will assume that I'm just another mindless drone.
2. Let the weird guy run the project, even if it hurts. Might suck for the customer, but hey, I'm just here to do a job.
3. Dress down, leave fashion, taste, and lifestyle at home. No reason to scare the zoo animals at the office with the idea that I'm even better at living than I am at programming.
4. Work the social aspect. Like I said, my workmates tend to look up to me at first, so if I can make friends with them they become great allies. But in some workplaces, there is so little social networking that this isn't even an option.
So really what it boils down to is remaining inconspicuous. It's impossible over the long-term. Sometimes I wish I could give myself a lobotomy. If only I could find a way to be stupider, I could build myself a killer career.
Working those odd hours does not enable the company to manage me effectively, and I can't be a resource for my fellow employees.
Well then you are probably doing something wrong huh? At my last job we worked all hours and our productivity was fine. Being in the office with the team is fun, but this is the 21st century already, there are alternate forms of communication. You should be able to get by just fine with email, aim, and web, otherwise i suspect you are probably not much of a computer geek. Look at open source, that has pretty much disproved the theory that the office environment is necessary for good software development.
Ginseng turns out to be pure BS according to the guy who wrote the article.
Yeah I am not surprised. If that stuff worked then there would probably be some awarness of it by now. I usually just drink caffeine and take a ritalin before deadlines. Really, how is grapefruit juice supposed to do anything? It is just sugar water, not much different than soda except for the caffeine.
Better living through chemistry, that sounds nice, you should probably stick with that. But maybe you need some better chemistry.
As a project manager, I introduced extreme programming and my team quadrupled their output overnight. And this is with six of us sitting in a garage with cheap office furnature.
Right. I think what you are saying is that when you stopped whipping them in your garage and gave them some actual human contact, they were a little happier huh? Maybe you learned a lesson that treating programmers like human beings pays off in the end.
A good office environment meets the needs of the workers. Good social contact, this is why nerf toys are popular. Some time to relax, play games, free perks like soda don't hurt either. If you make it fun, you can expect a lot. Quadrupal is nothing. Next try fixing your furniture.
I gather you can at least figure out the KOffice API if you know Python, but Hancom doesn't even provide that much info.
You are nitpicking a bit don't you think? This is the first major productivity app from Korea and all you want to know is where is the 300 page manual. Wake up, this is the 21st century, software doesn't come with a huge manual anymore. Like it would be easy for a new company like Hanscom to put together this kind of documentation either. Where are the APIs for Windows and Linux? Meanwhile, these are american, it should be easy for them.
apart from the fact that this is out for linux now, it doesn't seem all that impressive.
I think you're missing the point, which is that products like Hanscom Office indicate that east asia is finally 'getting' software. This is significant, because open source ideally would tap the resources of the world programming community, not just the english-language speakers and Eastern Europeans. I'm surprised that asian language keyboarding has come far enough to allow this kind of cross-collaboration. Just a few years ago, multi-language support was still a huge problem.
Did you expect front-line productivity apps from Korea in 2002 any more than people expected Korean cars in 1990? Now they are virtually dominating. This is the inevitable progression of any industry. Products that are considered mundane are picked up by developing third-world industries, and the rest of us push the envelope.
Hanscom has authored a full-featured application suite, even though this is in a part of the world where piracy is taken almost for granted. I think they deserve a little bit of credit. Maybe you think that just because it doesn't Go or Be that it's not worth its salt? Just because it is Korean doesn't mean you should be putting it down.
Fortunately, it looks like AT&T's rather permissive licensing of VNC may allow the project to continue after the lab's demise. This site has a pretty good discussion of some of the ways that other people inside AT&T might be able to keep the project afloat, and possibly even convince the behemoth to open-source this great little program.