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Charmed Announces Crusoe-based Linux Wearable

isdale writes: "Charmed Technology, founded by MIT Media Lab graduates, announced what it claims is the fastest available wearable computer -- 800Mhz Crusoe TM5800 processor. The CharmedIT comes standard with a 266 Mhz Pentium MMX for about $2k. The Crusoe upgrade costs another $500. The OS is extra ($250 for RedHat or Debian), as is the display, input device, carrying case, battery, charger, usable application ... if that isn't enough options, you can also get a DIY kit."

158 comments

  1. And for that extra $500?.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    You get a chip that runs as fast as the Pentium 200 MMX.

    Look! I'm cool cuz I run a Transmeta backpack computer! Freaking l337 d00dz!

  2. hi! by hettb · · Score: 0

    thank you!

  3. Prices please? by Rampant+Atrocity · · Score: 3, Funny

    The Crusoe upgrade costs another $500. The OS is extra ($250 for RedHat or Debian)

    *cough* *sputter*

    1. Re:Prices please? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      *cough* *sputter*

      How insightful of you to say that!

    2. Re:Prices please? by 56ker · · Score: 2

      I wonder how (thinking of the market this is aimed at) they think they can get away with prices like that!

    3. Re:Prices please? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's physicaly imposable to install an OS on the bloody thing (unless it's been "blessed").

    4. Re:Prices please? by awptic · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      I didn't see any mention of an external media drive (cdrom, floppy, etc.), I think they get away with it by just making it extremely hard to install anything... pretty sleezy if you ask me.

    5. Re:Prices please? by copyconstructor · · Score: 1

      Well, I guess the first buyer would be the only one to pay 250$, as the source would be freely available after that (assuming the first buyer put up a mirror for it that is). That is what GPL means, is it not?

    6. Re:Prices please? by 56ker · · Score: 2

      The only thing similar I remember was when I bought a harddrive by credit card over the phone they wanted me to pay an extra £6 for the OS to be installed on it.

    7. Re:Prices please? by tenman · · Score: 4, Informative

      Note: I reply here because I looked down the threads, and there are no real answers to the "who would buy this" questions

      Before you go any further, realize that this device is built for commercial applications. This is for a nurse that needs to know who and where all of her critical care beds are. This is for the contruction worker that is out on side, and can look at the land and see a 3D outline of the building and can punch the earth in the right spots. Devices like this could even be good for museums who want to give ppl an interactive tour.

      The only people who would buy a box like this are the people who can use these boxes to make (or save) money with them.

      Also note, that in the 70's few really saw the use of having a whole floor of your building dedicated to bulky computer, and almost nobody could afford one.

      Think about this as you read all the I337 H4z0r'z post about "who would buy..."

    8. Re:Prices please? by pb · · Score: 2

      So? Install it yourself, then.

      People are willing to pay for convenience, but maybe not that much. :)

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    9. Re:Prices please? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *cough* *cough* *Hahck* Atchoo!

    10. Re:Prices please? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the source is already freely available.
      Just in case you're *that* misinformed: www.debian.org www.redhat.com

    11. Re:Prices please? by tftp · · Score: 3, Informative
      Adding to tenman's comment above. They are competing with Xybernaut - who charges even more obscene prices for the very similar hardware. Indeed, this is a wearable commercial market, not geek's market. Any geek can make very similar wearable from any PDA, like Zaurus.

      Strength of this offering is in industrial grade ruggedness, modularity and completeness - businesses are not likely to buy a one-of-a-kind wearable from a geek next door; they want volume, reliability, FCC, CE and UL approvals, repairs and support, and much more - something that only a stable business can offer.

    12. Re:Prices please? by NMerriam · · Score: 2

      I wonder how (thinking of the market this is aimed at) they think they can get away with prices like that!

      The market they're aimed at (research groups, expensive production facilities in corporations, potentially military and healthcare) are all used to paying this kind of money.

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    13. Re:Prices please? by john82 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Nope.

      For every use you propose, there are already better and much cheaper solutions.
      ex 1: PocketPC with wireless
      ex 2: It's called a blueprint
      ex 3: tape, MD, DVD, wireless-enabled PDA. Take your pick.

      This is an interesting idea, but at this price schedule it's going nowhere. In the same field, do you really expect this to compete with Xybernaut? They've got a head start and still aren't doing that great.

    14. Re:Prices please? by copyconstructor · · Score: 1

      I guess *you're* missing the point. What you're saying then is that Charmed got their source mods included in both Redhat and Debian and that anyone who doesn't know that is misinformed. Well, I highly doubt Charmed's mods are in any distro, especially Redhat and Debian. Try again.

    15. Re:Prices please? by GreyPoopon · · Score: 2
      Well, I highly doubt Charmed's mods are in any distro, especially Redhat and Debian.

      Ah, but if they are selling an OS licensed under GPL, wouldn't they be REQUIRED to provide the source, whether they made modifications or not? Do I misunderstand?

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    16. Re:Prices please? by copyconstructor · · Score: 1

      Right you are. My original post stated pretty much exactly that - at least 1 person would have to buy the 'Charmed OS' in order to get the source, after which it would be freely available assuming that person went to the trouble of making it available somehow. Some anonymous idiot replied that I was clueless for not knowing that Linux itself is freely available, to which I replied the above. Well, that's what I get for replying to posts below my threshold - I guess they're there for a reason.

    17. Re:Prices please? by GreyPoopon · · Score: 1
      Actually, the fault is mine. I DID misunderstand because I never saw the below-threshold post, and was clueless enough to not realize that both your original post and the one I replied to were from the same person. I was defending your original post against your followup. I bet you never though you needed protection from yourself, eh? :-)

      Anyway, you're right. Now that I've managed to read the anonymous post, I agree that it was idiotic -- or at least that person wasn't thinking any more clearly that I was.

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  4. Hey kids.... by Ooblek · · Score: 2, Funny

    Be the first kid on your block to blow $2500 on this ultra cool wearable PC! Not only will you really look like a geek, but everyone will know who to talk to for some extra gas and grocery money! For an additional $15k, you can get the Honda walking robot docking station and play Ultraman with your friends in your front yard. (Turbo Jet and wing kit for robot sold seperately.)

    1. Re:Hey kids.... by hettb · · Score: 0
      Be the first kid on your block to blow $2500 on this ultra cool wearable PC! Not only will you really look like a geek, but everyone will know who to talk to for some extra gas and grocery money! For an additional $15k, you can get the Honda walking robot docking station and play Ultraman with your friends in your front yard. (Turbo Jet and wing kit for robot sold seperately.)

      ??? Geeks don't have any friends!!!1!

    2. Re:Hey kids.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Oh, damn. Sorry, I forgot.

      If you had Ultraman, you wouldn't need any friends. Just whip him out when Godzilla comes walking down the street.

      I bet nobody remembers Ultraman.

    3. Re:Hey kids.... by flollywebfrog · · Score: 1

      I remember the envy and hate my fourth-grade friends directed towards me when I was the first kid with Reebok Pumps...The first day I wore them to P.E., they left the field covered with intentional scuffs and mud-prints

      I am glad to be grown-up now and can be "wearable-ist in the closet." Who knows what fourth-graders will do to the modern-nerd.

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    4. Re:Hey kids.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I do! He was my favorite to watch when I was about 5 or 6. That was way cool!

    5. Re:Hey kids.... by l810c · · Score: 2, Funny
      Who knows what fourth-graders will do to the modern-nerd.

      Hold him down and upload a virus?

    6. Re:Hey kids.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know ... this truly reminded me of the fourth grade and how times have since surpassed me. Instead of bullies being the kids who can pound your head into the ground, geeks are now the ones with the power.

      Laugh all you want now, until you piss off that third grader who just happens to have your SS#, CC#, and PH#. You will have 300 copies of hustler at your doorstep, find out you've invested in 5 save nigeria stock scams, and be on every telemarketers list from here to the end of time.

      Erm wait .... no ... you'll probably still get pounded into the dirt in the fourth grade. But hey, bill gates was a nerd, so all nerds must be destined to be worth 43 billion dollars in the future!

    7. Re:Hey kids.... by Cpt_Kirks · · Score: 1

      Sure, he wore a red and silver rubber suit, fought other guys in rubber monster suits. He said memorable phrases like "Hao Ki Ta". He was like a pro wrassler, always got his butt kicked until the end of the show.

  5. Hmmm... by NickRob · · Score: 1

    Well... first of all, it causes a lot of problems when it rains and you don't have an umbrella.
    However, it is perfect for 802.11b hunting!

  6. Reminder of Osbourne by standards · · Score: 3, Insightful
    For some reason, this very much reminds me of the old Osborne "portable" computer.

    At the time, it was pretty darn cool. But soon we laughed hard at the people who bought one.

    See Osborne History

    1. Re:Reminder of Osbourne by GenCuster · · Score: 1

      My very first computer was a handme down osborne. Nice machine. The keyboard cliped onto the case. Truely awesoem. Nice link thanks.

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      "The poet presents his thoughts festively, on the carriage of rhythm; usually because they could not walk" Nietzsche
    2. Re:Reminder of Osbourne by Quirk · · Score: 1

      I had totally forgotten but the Osborne. I had the 1 tonne portable Compaq. BTW: is your sig meant to quote 'F' Nietzsche ?

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      Cohen
    3. Re:Reminder of Osbourne by GenCuster · · Score: 1

      BTW: is your sig meant to quote 'F' Nietzsche?

      damm, they cut off my sig. The quote included citing the book: "The Wanderer and his Shadow" one of his earlier books.

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      "The poet presents his thoughts festively, on the carriage of rhythm; usually because they could not walk" Nietzsche
  7. Finally. by Soko · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Here's an OEM that shows the true cost of Windows 2000. Directly beneath the RedHat price is the price of Windows 2000 pre-loaded - $450, which means it's $200 more.

    This is likely an off-the-shelf, non OEM price (since our Redmond frinds aren't too kind to PC makers who don't feature thier OS exclusively)

    Nice to see.

    Soko

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    "Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm." - Anonymous
    1. Re:Finally. by Chemical · · Score: 0, Troll
      I don't think so. A full version of Windows 2000 costs $300. They are charging you $150 to install an operating system. Shit, they charge you $250 for Debian, something they didn't even pay for. What a scam. Especially considering OEM computer makers use images and can image a new computer in like 10 minutes. I don't know how they can justify any of their prices.

      Let's see... They charge $2000 for 266Mhz computer (I don't care how small it is), $250/$450 for the OS, and other assorted unreasonable prices for the other accessories, and their web site sucks? Can we say Fucked Company?

    2. Re:Finally. by MADCOWbeserk · · Score: 1

      It is rather high for an OS install. Microsoft's OEM price is $129 that is for you or I. Pricewatch

    3. Re:Finally. by MADCOWbeserk · · Score: 1

      Wrong button.. link http://www.compuplus.com/insidepage.php3?sid=8hu28 39j46rg615&id=450 Linux with manuals and box is rarely over 60 bucks. Any system builder either images or scripts the install so this is rather high. Seems to me like anyone buying these doodads is rather profiecient and is willing to put it on themselves especially to save a couple hundred bucks. So any installation fee over $50 is too high

    4. Re:Finally. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And guess what? Windows is just about twice as costy and windows...

  8. Charmed? by Nathdot · · Score: 3, Funny

    Charmed Announces Crusoe-based Linux Wearable???

    I liked the episode last season better, where the three sisters fought the Gnu Debian C# compiler.

    :)

    1. Re:Charmed? by Swix · · Score: 0

      Does this make Coal Bill Gates? With his minions of 'shared-source' programmers?

  9. Yeah, but how much does it weigh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With all that gear it'd be like strapping a Desktop PC to your back.

  10. slow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    why is the site so slow? slashcode bugs again?

  11. what a steal! by i+like+your+eyes · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    $2,000 for a 266 Mhz Pentium MMX Processor Board ?? Wow that's what I paid for mine in 1998. Can't believe prices haven't risen... Must be because the OS isn't included.

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    1. Re:what a steal! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps this was a JOKE

  12. $250 for Redhat or Debian!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.debian.org -- it is much cheaper to get it from their. Might as well donate the $250 to them instead.

  13. They don't have a chance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I could buy a mess of these, throw them into a pile, and create a Beowulf cluster, I could see a future in this product. But I can't, so it's doomed.

  14. Okay, I'll say it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These people are idiots.

  15. mit gets it right by christfokkar · · Score: 1

    It's obvious why half of the fundamental computing technologies have come from MIT. They set high standards, their solutions are elegant, and they always stay ahead of the curve.

    They set up their wearable computing lab seven or eight years ago already. They were patient and the market came to them. Now they are reaping the rewards. Kudos to MIT, another job well done.

    1. Re:mit gets it right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You, being the only person to post anything positive about this company, MIT, and its products, must be a troll. How else can you explain your slavish drooling over this 5 year old piece of crap?

      While we're at it, care to list the "half of the fundamental computing technologies" that MIT produced? Does this claim fall into the 83% of statistics that are made up on the spot?

    2. Re:mit gets it right by notsoanonymouscoward · · Score: 2

      I wouldn't characterize them as idiots... just perhaps a bit un innovative. Yes I know thats a horrible thing for lil old me to say about a bunch of seemingly amazing MIT grads. But ya know, they're still using some backwards ass stuff. Wheres the new gear? Wheres the new applications?! Show me the killer apps that these wearables would use. Show me something thats changed in the last few years other than adding a new cpu option. And what about this nanix stuff? Where is it? I couldn't find any place to download it. Everyone seems to know about the blurb... so where is it? So often it seems like people start drifting off into their own little world, and fail to see where things are going and fail to remember that innovation is the key. Especially when it comes to technology, if you stop, you're a market has been.

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    3. Re:mit gets it right by TheSync · · Score: 2

      Wearable Rememberance Agent may be the "killer app".

    4. Re:mit gets it right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Innovation is not the key, when it comes to the commercial success of products. Generally it's not the first company to release that wins, it's the one that achieves the best applications.

      Why are there no "killer" apps? Because until now there hasn't been a standard platform to develop for. That's what these guys are trying to create. They're making it easy and safe (by being open) to use their platform as the basis for wireless development and research, so that someone can come up with the killer apps. Then, when that happens, and various industries are starting to get dependent on wearables that use these applications, they'll be in the key position to come out with improved, higher tech versions that are more targeted at consumers or businesses rather than engineers.

  16. this thing is worthless by kochsr · · Score: 1

    umm... who is ACTUALLY going to pay 2500 dollars for a piece of crap computer just so they can wear it? if someone wants to make these things mainstream, they have to be somewhat affordable. how much R&D can there possibly freakin be?!? i refuse to believe that the parts come anywhere close to being this expensive.

    1. Re:this thing is worthless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, you could start with this $999 HMD and go buy a low-end $1109 laptop, and buy $400 of tech support to set it all up.

      Whopsie daisy, looks like we've broken the bank.

  17. Re:Wiiiiiid! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The page won't load. Has it been /.ed?

  18. $6,870?!?!?! No way in hell... by Saeculorum · · Score: 1

    Let's see here...

    $1995 for the basic board.

    $1500 for the EveryDay Use Bundle (it includes Linux, so no $250 charge for a free OS, and I'd like to be able to use the computer for more than 2 hours)

    $875 for the TM5800 (I'm not going back to a 266 mhz processor and I'd like to be able to listen to my MP3s with this thing)

    $2500 for the CO-3 monitor (so I can actually see what I'm doing)

    That'd be a bit expensive for something that's not even as powerful as a laptop. I don't think it's even as useful - those Twiddlers are confusing (I've tried), and I doubt a 1" high screen would be particularly easy to focus on when it's 1 inch away from your eye.

    If I really wanted all that, why not just get a Xybernaut poma for $1499?

    1. Re:$6,870?!?!?! No way in hell... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhmmm did you notice that the Xybernaut was just a risc based processor running WinCe If all you want is WinCe for 1499, I'll sell you a pocketpc for that :)

      Whereas with this (albeit pricey) device we can run anything linux based or if need be windows based.

    2. Re:$6,870?!?!?! No way in hell... by red_gnom · · Score: 1
      How about OQO for $1000

      Transmeta Powered High-End Portable

      plus Head Mounted Display?

    3. Re:$6,870?!?!?! No way in hell... by Chris+Pimlott · · Score: 2

      $875 for the TM5800 (I'm not going back to a 266 mhz processor and I'd like to be able to listen to my MP3s with this thing)

      266 mhz is more than adequate for MP3s. I used to have a Libretto 50 with a P75 that did a perfectly good job using mpg123.

  19. $250 for linux? by interstellar_donkey · · Score: 1, Troll

    And for that matter, $450 for Win2k?

    Something about that just does'nt sit right. Red hat or Debian typically install with ease.. so does this mean that the hardware is so tricky and propritary they feel they need to charge $250 just to get the thing to work?

    Or are the marketing people just on something.

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  20. Why not.... by pennsol · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Put one of these http://www.theregus.com/content/54/24709.html in your pocket i'm sure it will run your favorite flavor of *nix and it's half the price..with the docking station...

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    1. Re:Why not.... by mlk · · Score: 1

      Why not just stick Linux [ http://sourceforge.net/projects/linux-7110/ ](or BSD [lost the URL] ) on a Psion [ http://www.psion.co.uk ].
      They are out NOW, low in price and come with a keyboard! :)

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    2. Re:Why not.... by pennsol · · Score: 1

      Good thinking..but i was trying to justify the high cost vs. hardware that you get.. as seeing that the latest and greatest in small portable computers is half the price of this..whatever it is they're trying to pawn off as a real computer.. 266 pentium..just doesn't seem right...

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    3. Re:Why not.... by mlk · · Score: 1

      but i was trying to justify the high cost vs. hardware that you get
      You can't, I would not bother a 206MHz proc w/ 64MB RAM is a new PDA and that'll only set you back ~$500!

      mlk

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    4. Re:Why not.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't, I would not bother a 206MHz proc w/ 64MB RAM is a new PDA and that'll only set you back ~$500!

      I realize English may not be your first language, but your sentence is difficult to read. You should have said "You can't. I would not bother. A new PDA comes 206MHz processor and 64MB of RAM standard and will only set you back about $500!". See? That was more concise. Please use proper English in the future or leave Slashdot. - The Grammar Police.

    5. Re:Why not.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not just buy a Windows Powered device and avoid the confusing Linux OS altogether? With Windows Powered you get desktop performance in the palm of your hand. For a limited time Compaq and HP are offering excellent prices on their new handhelds. Windows Powered, where do you want to go today?

  21. Re:Wiiiiiid! by rusty0101 · · Score: 1

    Or has the host carrier gone and crashed for the night? I mean I would hate to think that someone /.'ed a wearable computer. Wouldn't that make it luggable?

    -Rusty

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  22. This'll be great... by Any+Web+Loco · · Score: 1

    ...when i get stranded on a desert island. does it come w/ girl friday?

    1. Re:This'll be great... by CyberKittyCat · · Score: 1

      For the right price, you get me -- Charmed's marketing geek.

  23. Zaurus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, I'm thinking one's money might be better spent on a zaurus at this point. Sure, it doesn't have a heads up display, or a twiddler, but if those turn out to be truely useful input devices, I'm sure one of us will hack them to work for the zaurus. I'd like to see some compelling use cases.

  24. haha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    airport securities would love to have a chat w/ u... :)

  25. Sufferring in private by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thank god someone else feels the same way. I've felt that way for a while, too.

    1. Re:Sufferring in private by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank god someone else feels the same way. I've felt that way for a while, too.

      Great, lets meet in chatroom, exchange pics, elevate to voice, beat up some dorks and have wild sex. Jeez man, why are you so coy about it? This is the 2k2, get with the program. Male relationships know no bounds.

    2. Re:Sufferring in private by weeerdo · · Score: 0

      Uh, Ma'am, who told you they were male?

  26. Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I overclock it, will it help keeps me warm next winter?

  27. I can't tell you how cool this guy is by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 1

    Just look at his picture.

    1. Re:I can't tell you how cool this guy is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck - HE DOES LOOK COOL!
      Like Batman - but more bat-like.

    2. Re:I can't tell you how cool this guy is by veeoh · · Score: 1

      Thats cool is it?

      Damn you lot are behind in the coolness stakes...

      He looks like a dick!

    3. Re:I can't tell you how cool this guy is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is Steve Mann. This is Thad Starner. These are the people at Charmed. Steve Mann is not among them.

  28. Expensive Gadgets by regnuj · · Score: 1

    Yes!!!! One more expensive thing to wear around and end up breaking in one odd way or another. You have got to love this stuff....its great!!!!

  29. Never seen a more poorly designed thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you power it by sticking the cord up your ass?
    Figures MIT guys would come up with this crap -
    only _they_ would use it.

    1. Re:Never seen a more poorly designed thing by christfokkar · · Score: 1

      Figures MIT guys would come up with this crap

      Bullshit, MIT is elite. You must be missing something, because if you could pack a micro-atx motherboard into a duffel bag, plug in some pci cards and hook it up to some car batteries, then you would certainly be working at this world-renowned institution right now. You disdain proves my point qed. MIT is #1 in engineering, everybody knows this.

    2. Re:Never seen a more poorly designed thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It must be difficult for you to type your posts with all those MIT guys' dicks in your mouth.

    3. Re:Never seen a more poorly designed thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who sticks the cord in the what now?

    4. Re:Never seen a more poorly designed thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Brilliant piece of satire! Very funny. Too bad the other ninnys missed it.

  30. Why do this..? by zeno_2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    From what I can see this is a company that is just starting up. This thing that they are selling, in my opinion, is pretty overpriced. With the money that it took to buy all the accessories, you could probably make yourself for cheaper. I hope they do well, but I don't see the masses of people buying any of those, let along a single person.

    I would do something like this:

    Make a wearable computer for lets say.. people that stock large amounts of stuff in warehouses. Would be pretty handy to have the full inventory at the press of a button, without having to look away. Make a few of these units, approach some large company who have a lot of these workers, and see if you can get a few of them to use it for a few days to see if its useful. It probably will, or they didn't make it right. Do this to a few different companies/different markets, and you have quite a base of users out there, and you then market it to the public, using the above examples of how good it works.

    I read thru their website a bit, didn't really see much of any of that going on. Like I said, I hope they do well, but I don't think they are doing it right if they want it to take off..

    1. Re:Why do this..? by christfokkar · · Score: 1

      From what I can see this is a company that is just starting up. This thing that they are selling, in my opinion, is pretty overpriced.

      Actually, this research team has been around in some form for about twelve years. Early prototypes were too heavy to lift and needed to be carted around. They had an operating range limited by the length of cable, usually about 500 feet, and they had some satellite proof-of-concept. They kept at it, though, and the current product, whatever its faults, is a viable commercial product. You probably shouldn't pick faults unless you are willing to put in that kind of effort yourself. What has the last dozen years of your life produced other than worthless Slashdot trolling?

    2. Re:Why do this..? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better yet... floor traders. Instead of running about getting orders from the booth clerk, have orders queue up on the wearable, and confirmations could be entered right there. This is of course assuming that they already don't have this :)

    3. Re:Why do this..? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Make a wearable computer for lets say.. people that stock large amounts of stuff in warehouses. Would be pretty handy to have the full inventory at the press of a button, without having to look away. Make a few of these units, approach some large company who have a lot of these workers, and see if you can get a few of them to use it for a few days to see if its useful. It probably will, or they didn't make it right. Do this to a few different companies/different markets, and you have quite a base of users out there, and you then market it to the public, using the above examples of how good it works.

      Actually, that's what's palm's for. These wearables are probably for gamers. I don't see any other need for such high speed cpu's.

    4. Re:Why do this..? by zeno_2 · · Score: 1

      You really can't comeback with something like.. "what have you done with the last 12 years of my life" because it doesn't work. I can put everyone up to the standards of some of the greats of our time, and it will make everyone look like monkeys. All I am saying is that I don't see a good outlook for a company trying to sell these computers, which in my opinion, are overpriced. I am allowed to have an opinion from what I can remember. And its not like im doing senseless slashdot trolling, as I gave an example of how I would do this instead.

      So, what have you done in the last 10 years besides trying to squash down the thoughts of others?

    5. Re:Why do this..? by EricBoyd · · Score: 1

      Xybernaut already does this. They had several large industrial clients, like telecom workers, who used the wearables for "hands free" computing / reference.

      Websurfing done right! StumbleUpon

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  31. Yeah, OK, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but I'd still 'do' Ricki Lake. She's cute. Bouncy.

  32. Is this paid placement? by JumpinJohnny · · Score: 1

    This is one of those ads that's supposed to look like news, isn't it? It just doesn't seem newsworthy enough.

  33. Just keep the fashion shows coming.. by kyoorius · · Score: 1

    I thought Infocharms/CharmedIT, with their cyber-fashion shows, was basically a brilliant excuse for hot models to get close with technogeeks ;) Hrm, I guess every company has to put out a product or two to keep the VC money flowing, and if that's what it takes to retain those models, so be it!

    I'm looking forward to the bluetooth G-string and PDA bra (under-wireless of course)in the next show. Keep them coming!

  34. Obsolete no more! by dewboy · · Score: 1

    I've got an old Pentium 266 MMX that I've been using as a server (running OpenBSD)... If you had asked me, aside from use to me, how much it was worth, I'd have said no more than $50, and that's for the new power supply in it.

    Thanks to the boys from the Media Lab for giving my computer a new pricetag. All I have to do is fit this puppy into a smaller box. =)

  35. Wearable Computers don't have to be weird by DonaldP · · Score: 1
    I'd like to post the text of a link I have on one of my sites called "What my wearable computer is (and isn't) that may help dispel some preconceptions. Not all of the ideas I have listed below are unique to me - some are mine, some were also conceived by others, and some are taken from people far more intelligent and insightful than I.

    What my Wearable Computer Is (and Isn't)

    I am developing a device I call the PIASYS (pie' AH sis), or Personal Intelligence Augmentation SYStem. It is a specialized Wearable Computer.

    When most people hear the term "Wearable Computer", they usually picture things like big ugly head-mounted displays, cumbersome input methods (including voice control), bulky hardware, and of course, just plain looking too "different" (or as described on Slashdot: "like a borg reject").

    So, there are plenty of preconceptions about wearable computers.

    However, the PIASYS has neither a mouse nor a keyboard. Neither does it use voice recognition as its primary interface. The only input is a few conveniently-located buttons (on a ring, a pen, etc). The screen is embedded in a pair of sunglasses, superimposing the computer's output onto the "Real World". A video camera accompanies the display in the glasses. The hardware all fits into a small package, easily worn under clothing. In fact, it's not obvious a person wearing the PISYS is in fact wearing or even using a computer.

    Does it replace a "Real" computer? No. Why? Because the PIASYS does mostly totally different things than a desktop system. And for good reason. The PIASYS is not made to allow you to write code on the bus, or to use a CAD program in the park (though you could do these things if you wanted). The PIASYS is instead intended to enhance those abilities we already have and use in our everyday lives. It helps you see, it helps you remember, it helps you memorize, and it helps you think more efficiently (just as a calculator helps you do math more efficiently). And most importantly, it is private. The data, unless explicitly shared, is no one's but yours.

    The PIASYS is designed around two core concepts. First, my concept of "Personal Intelligence", and secondly the concept of "Intelligence Augmentation". It is the idea of having a system available to you that is both personal and private, and designed to greatly enhance your ability to gather, store, and recall useful news, information, and resources (intelligence) pertaining to you and your personal space.Also, it serves as an additional "brain", offering the brute force computational ability of a computer at your fingertips, as well as the resources of the Internet, and the resources of other people (whom you can connect to and confer with via the PIASYS or similar wearable system).

    For example, the PIASYS effects a great enhancement of personal intelligence by being able to perform such tasks as:

    Face Recognition

    Intelligent Reminder Management

    Navigation Aiding

    Retroactive Recording of Audio and Video

    Instant Messaging

    Providing a limited (and sometimes literal) Photographic Memory

    Providing realtime Reference Materials

    Allowing Live Collaborative Conferencing

    That's only a few of the immense possibilities.

    So, without a mouse or keyboard - how does one "use" the PIASYS? The short answer is that it mostly uses itself. It is designed not to be used like a desktop computer, but rather to sit in the background, quietly assisting you in whatever ELSE you may be doing, rather than requiring you to spend your time interfacing to IT.

    In practical terms, the PIASYS uses environmental and contextual factors as most of it's input. The rest is supplied in the form of commands or confirmations by the user. A few simple buttons are sufficient to allow the user to tell the PIASYS what to do in any given situation.

    Some functions require explicit input (commands). For example, imagine someone has just told you a name and phone number. You could (with a simple button click) tell your PIASYS to "record video and audio from five seconds ago" immediately after hearing the needed information -- which could then serve as a reminder. You could do a similar recording of an event that has already happened in other circumstances: after witnessing an accident, after dealing with an official you suspect may change his or her story, or after seeing or hearing something especially interesting.

    Other inputs are implicit, rather than explicit. Your PIASYS may automatically record recent events after your pulse rises sharply, for example. A video or audio or textual reminder may be presented automatically once you have reached a certain location. Or when you see a certain object, or a certain person (Face Recognition).

    A simple input from the user (like clicking his or her ring) can serve as confirmation, rather than command. For example, the PIASYS can record every direction change you take as you are travelling, then ask if you would like them replayed to retrace your steps when it detects you may be lost (which it may infer by your uncertain movements).

    The point is that the PIASYS is not a desktop replacement - nor is it even a desktop contender. It is a computer, but with a completely different purpose: to help you in your everyday life and allow you more control over yourself, your data, and your private space -- not less.

    For more information about the issues I attempt to address with the PIASYS (as well as other solutions), visit the Philosophy links here at Man-Machines.

    Some good information can also be had from Professor Steve Mann's "Cyborg - Digital Destiny and Human Possibility in the Age of the Wearable Computer".

    1. Re:Wearable Computers don't have to be weird by chaoticset · · Score: 1
      Essentially what a PDA is supposed to be: Yer Little Buddy.

      Benefits of such a system are obvious: Never forget a face, never miss an appointment, never lose a note again. But what are the drawbacks?

      Humans acclimate themselves to subtle stimuli; eventually this thing will -- because it might respond to pulse increases, pupil dilation, etc. -- measure your very emotional responses and respond in kind. This would produce a feedback loop. Do you really want to have such a thing tied intimately to your mental processes?

      Further, if this is a device that ends up connected (which it would undoubtedly end up being, what with the rampant need to surf), they will invariably become hacked in some fashion. At first, this means lost/hijacked data; however, in the long run, there's no reason that the emotional feedback element couldn't be directly manipulated. Need to steal someone from a rival company? Make them fall in love with their interviewer, and let their hormones do your dirty work. Make them take the wrong turns to work so often in the morning that they start to think it's "fated".

      People's perceptions are easy to mold, especially when they don't know any better.

      Hey, I'd be first in line to buy such a rig. I won't pretend there aren't any possible problems, though. Everything is give-and-take. Pay attention to the take.

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  36. Re:mit is death by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    As someone who went to MIT for four years, I would like to second this post.

    I worked hard, destroyed my health, (only recently lost enough weight that I can start running twice a week again . . . pathetic) and had no social life. If I had gone to a state university, I would have been able to take more of the classes I liked and could have afforded to stay an extra year if necessary to learn what I thought was important -- I wanted to learn Russian and Hebrew in addition to all the technical stuff, for example. But instead I was stuck struggling to pack it all into four years because the damn place is so expensive. I completed all the requirements for the 6-3 degree, and didn't get the degree because a professor rejected the final project/AUP/thesis thing. I got a job in Boston just to be able to stay around the re-write it my spare time, and the guy kept wanting more work out of me, and screwed up an attempt to take an institute lab in my spare time by getting caught doing a lot of traveling for work. Finally I left the place, but where I live now rent is so cheap, and no income tax, that I have more take-home pay on just about half the salary.

    I've moved to a big state university town since then. The kids I meet who are in this college are more balenced, and most of the time smarter (but not intensely obsessive about things) than the kids at MIT. I feel happier the more interaction I have with non-MIT people. When I meet MIT people in the course of work, it seems half of them are kind of recovering like me and half are bitterly hated by everyone they interact with.

    I have made several career choices in order to make sure I do not have to meet or work with MIT people any more. Among these was a conscious decision to give up lisp, the best way to program there is, but lisp people seem like the worst of MITers even when they are not from MIT. Read Erik Naggum's posts on comp.lang.lisp if you need a striking example. In all fairness, it's not just MIT people, I treat anyone from the northeast, a big school, or jewish as having two strikes against them until they prove they are real people. Only lawyers have more constantly been sub-human than people from MIT.

    As for the MIT Media lab, they are a different sort of dispicable character. They seem to be focused on selling the reputation of the rest of MIT for their own gain. They take a corporate donor, wave a bunch of smoke and mirrors and invoke the MIT reputation, get money, and then when the guys finally realize that all they are doing is hooking up random junk to each other about and then hyping it in the most oily dot-com style, they toss that donor and search out more. They had a wearable computer FASION SHOW. Nuff said.

    If you are a high school student considering going to MIT, here's what you should do. Find an MIT alumni to talk to who is not a member of the any of the alumni clubs or shit (that means hooking up with them outside of MIT's recruiting, which is hard.) Ask them to look you right in the eye, and say "if you did it all over again, would you go to MIT again ?"

    A large portion will have to admit the answer is no. They will point out that their experience wasn't totally bad, etc, but on the balence, they would have gone to a good state school. (A factoid often quoted is that MIT alumni contribute proportionally less than all the other high-reputation places to their school; I think this is only partly due to the fact that a lot of them viciously hate the place, and more related to the fact that the demographic of MITers is more middle class than the likes of Harvard, Princeton, etc.)

    I look forward to discriminating again MIT people in jobs and any other way (I'm buying some rental property in the next year or so, no MITers will rent my place) for the rest of my life. I'm still trying to give northeasterners and jews a fair shake in the interest of an equal society and all that, but MITers are right out.

  37. Re:mit is death by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This ought to be an Ask /.

    I went to Georgetown University and can't complain at all about the school, except that the CS department was severely neglected. While they've got some top-notch professors (Mahe, Squier, Denning to name a few), the facilities are sorely lacking.

    GU is one of the schools that you'd find alums encouraging people to attend. The breadth of subjects that can be broached there is excellent and the city itself (DC) is interesting in its own right.

    The downside is that it's fairly expensive, much more than a state school. A good alternative in the DC area is George Washington which is just down the street. Certainly not as prestigious as GU, but a very good school in its own right.

    For CS in DC, try Howard, but as a historically black university, the vast majority of pasty white CS geeks would stand out like a sore thumb.

  38. Crackpot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This guy is a crackpot... Apple is not a bunch of devil worshipers, communist, pagans or atheists. Look at the color scheme!!!! They're obviously gay!

  39. There are better things to spend money on by Hyperfrog · · Score: 1

    [This comment for MT readers only! :) ]

    I'd rather have a better PS2 pherpherial myself.

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  40. Re:mit is death by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    GU is one of the schools that you'd find alums encouraging people to attend.

    That's not surprising, considering that DC is one of the most livable, well-rounded cities in the nation. Unlike the west coast, where there tends to be a rampant hedonism, east coast cities tend to be progressive, enlightened, and civic-oriented. DC, as our capital, is surely the best example of this.

  41. Charmed, welcome to the Land of Wearable Patents! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Xybernaut owns nearly all of the significant patents in the Wearable Computing area. Perhaps it's the patent royalties that are causing Charmed to have such high prices (can't just be economies of scale...)

  42. Re:Xfree86 Going Commerical and Subscription based by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Was there. Like Theo's speach BTW. And also, this is why people should use GPL rather than all those prehistoric licences that can be revoked and played around without notice. It's a sad case that Xfree86 is going commerical, that was one of my fav non commerican endevours! I guess now only Linux kernel is left... and debian. Anyway, this should be good, people would get out of the couches and make some good GPled free graphical systems (maybe even a 3d one?)

  43. Linux on a Cappuccino... by mr_clem · · Score: 1

    I hate to say it, but we've all talked about this before... why not the Cappuccino?
    I know the DC in makes it a problem, but it'd be great for a ultraportable computer. (possibly wearable)...
    http://www.cappuccinopc.com/

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    1. Re:Linux on a Cappuccino... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Besides needing an AC power source the power consumption is aparantly pretty high so battery life would be short. Instead of paying high prices for a Charmed package I'd just get a coat with a big pocket and throw a Sony picturebook in it.

  44. Re:Xfree86 Going Commerical and Subscription based by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So the truth comes out. You only like the GPL because it gets you stuff for free.

  45. karma h0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    Charmed Announces Crusoe-based Linux Wearable
    Posted by timothy on Monday April 22, @10:46PM
    from the gargoyles-take-heed dept.
    isdale writes: "Charmed Technology, founded by MIT Media Lab graduates, announced what it claims is the fastest available wearable computer -- 800Mhz Crusoe TM5800 processor. The CharmedIT comes standard with a 266 Mhz Pentium MMX for about $2k. The Crusoe upgrade costs another $500. The OS is extra ($250 for RedHat or Debian), as is the display, input device, carrying case, battery, charger, usable application ... if that isn't enough options, you can also get a DIY kit."

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    Apple: Apple Deals with Devil, Communists
    Posted by pudge on Monday April 22, @09:05PM
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    rschroeder writes "I keep thinking that this article can't be real, but it looks like it. Among the juicier bits: 'The real operating system hiding under the newest version of the Macintosh operating system (Mac OS X) is called... Darwin! That's right, new Macs are based on Darwinism! While they currently don't advertise this fact to consumers, it is well known among the computer elite, who are mostly Atheists and Pagans. Furthermore, the Darwin OS is released under an 'Open Source' license, which is just another name for Communism.'" Yes, of course. And I am still waiting for Jesux to be released.

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    Posted by timothy on Monday April 22, @08:22PM
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    Google vs. DMCA and Scientology
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    Uebergeek writes "This article at the NYTimes (free registration, blah blah) details how google is dealing with the many complaints it gets from organizations when one of its links potentially violates a copyright (or just irritates the copyright's owner). Specifically, it talks about how Google is dealing with the Scientologist's complaints about the list of the Operation Clambake site... now Google features a prominent link to another site that shows the complaint that the Scientologists filed, along with the delisted links."

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    Reader the_rev_matt writes with this review of Hungry Minds' Zope Bible. He finds both merit and shortcomings in this book, and suggests that "Bible" may be too grand a word for this decent-but-spotty work. Read on for his reasoning.

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    Salon On Computer Forensics
    Posted by chrisd on Monday April 22, @10:16AM
    from the keep-those-tape-drives-handy dept.
    splorf writes "Salon has a good new article on computer forensics, focusing on Lee Tydalska, a guy in Southern California who started collecting old computers and peripherals as a hobby, and now has a nice business doing data recovery from weird and obsolete media for investigators (or normal users who just need media conversion). "It hardly needs saying why this craft has grown in importance", the article says, "but if one word sums it up, it's 'Enron-itis'". Oh yes, the #1 outfit in the field is apparently a UK firm called Vogon International. You've got to love this stuff."

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    Open Meta Tools Make It Big
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    Morgahastu writes "Byte.com has a great article about open meta tools and open software in general: "After more than 10 years of open-software development in the scientific community, open software now holds a preeminent place in the operation of the computing community. The three products I have written about simply scratch the surface of the powerful tools available. OpenLDAP and OAI both enable a wide variety of sharing and automated access.""

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    GPL's Strength
    Posted by Hemos on Monday April 22, @07:52AM
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    Smart Cameras To Predict Crimes
    Posted by chrisd on Monday April 22, @05:55AM
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    hairybacchus writes: "The Independent News is reporting that scientists at Kingston University in London have developed video processing software that is able to predict behavior patterns of the people on-screen. They say it will be used to alleviate congestion in the London Underground or alert police to potential muggings. I wonder how long it will be before this is combined with face-recognition technology? It's spooky." I can't wait. "We searched you because the computer told us to." Trust the Computer.

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    GeForce4 Ti 4200 Preview
    Posted by michael on Monday April 22, @02:29AM
    from the CGA dept.
    Mike Chambers writes "Hi All, I've completed a preview of NVIDIA's GeForce4 Ti 4200 graphics chipset. Although the preview contains your typical benchmarks, it's centered around game play and antialiasing image quality. Here's a list of the games involved - Quake 3 & Team Arena, IL-2 Sturmovik, Nascar Racing 2002 Demo, Jedi Knight 2, Serious Sam 2, Max Payne Demo, Comanche 4 Demo, Dungeon Siege and Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2002 Demo. Since antialiasing image quality, especially Quincunx and 4XS, was an important aspect of the preview, all of the screen shots were saved in high quality PNG format. For those Slashdot readers that are avid gamers, you might want to check this out."

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    The Lone Gunmen Are Dead
    Posted by chrisd on Sunday April 21, @11:16PM
    from the and-I-feel-fine dept.
    Mike Perry (And many,many others) writes: "In an astounding move after the cancellation of the show, Chris Carter killed off the Lone Gunmen in tonight's episode of the X-Files. After a short introduction that re-introduced the group as trying to save "a world that isn't too kind to idealists," the episode progressed until the Gunmen realized their destiny with Langley's quotes about Joey Ramone, and then Byer's quote "We never gave up, and we never will. In the end, if that's all they can say about us, it'll do." The episode then built to an ending where the Gunmen group gave their lives to thwart a bio-terrorist financed by a business tycoon.I don't know about you guys, but back in the prime of the X-Files, these guys were as close a role model as I could find on television as a kid. I was deeply disappointed with the cancellation of the show (sure the pilot sucked, but the next few episodes were good). I feel glad that these characters were allowed to retire with dignity before the end of the show."

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  46. Finally... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Finally, somebody decided to make a wearable computer. I mean, what were they thinking not making one earlier? When my PDA died on me last year, where was my wearable PC? When my laptop ran out of battteries, where was my wearable PC? Thought so. I congratulate Charmed for bringing supply to the urgent demands. Bravo.

  47. $250 for leenucks??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No way! I'd just run FreeBSD for free on it. FreeBSD is better than leenucks anyways.

  48. OT: JPEG instead of PNG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The image TechFitsYou.jpg (the bottom of the article) should be saved as a PNG, instead of JPEG (just a 4 or 8 color PNG would look great and would be small, while the highly compressed JPEG looks terrible). The same with the header logo (Header_wireless_everywear.jpg) and the photos (charmit.jpg, CharmITTwiddler146.jpg). If someone knows the webmaster, please tell her/him about it, because it looks very unprofessional. And while I believe that they know the technology and I can believe them about this product, if I hadn't read the Slashdot comments I wouldn't be so sure. Thanks.

  49. heh, you can't get a xybernaugt if you tried by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Ok, this has to be anonymous, as I'm under an NDA.

    My company tried to get a demo unit from Xybernaught for trials with our clients. They finally shipped one. The bad news: they neglected to send us a head-mount display. I mean, what's a wearable PC without the display?

    Ok, so we call them. Mind you, we'd had this deal worked out for a month. Their answer: "we don't make them, can't get them, never even had any" --- never mind the fact that we had one with the head-mount about 3 months prior for about 2 days from them.

    Ok, so we call $BIG_VENDOR who got us involved with Xybernaught in the first place, and $BIG_VENDOR decided to make a few heads roll. Xybernaught finally ships the head-mount display that they said they didn't have.

    While waiting for the display to arrive, the PC breaks. I don't remember what we had to do to get it working, but finally we did. Oh, and part of our presentation was to stream video, but Xybernaught never bothered to send us the camera they promised us. We had to tape a webcam to the demo guy's jacket in order to do video.

    Oh yeah, I guess Xybernaught is gonna sue me now for half a mil.

  50. Amazing wearables in the local Dunkin Donuts. by unsung · · Score: 1

    It slips our minds that some of the best connected, high-tech clothing are no further than the local law enforcement. Next time you have a chance, take a look at police officer belt straps and clothing. Pretty slick and they're capable of fragging those uglies too!

    Interesting stuff from Charmed.

    1. Re:Amazing wearables in the local Dunkin Donuts. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uglies are for bumping, not fragging.

  51. Doesn't have to be mainstream by upside · · Score: 1

    Lots of applications for doctors, engineers, UPS deliveryboys etc etc. You name it.

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  52. Don't sign that check just yet... by jtrandall · · Score: 1

    While supplies last...I will offer my black backpack for you to put your computer in and only charge a fraction of the price!

  53. $850 batteries, $2500 screen by upside · · Score: 1

    Niiice.

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  54. New Fashion by til · · Score: 1

    A wearable with a Red Hat, sounds good to me :)

  55. L. Lovelace, dead at 53 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Linda Boreman, who starred as Linda Lovelace in the 1972 pornographic film "Deep Throat" and later became an anti-porn advocate, died Monday of injuries she suffered in a car crash.
    She was 53.

    Whether you liked her or despised her, I think everyone would agree that she was a contributor to the fabric of America.

  56. another option could be a sony vaio picturebook by eq2rip · · Score: 1

    small lightweight,firewire,usb,pcmcia,built in camera,15gig harddrive 128+ram, sound,tv out, audio in.
    $1500-$2000 - depending which processor and any extras added
    add extra long life battery +400$
    The case is probably not as rugged but I havent had any problems. Also it has a lcd/monitor for the interim while you wait for that highe res low price covert monitor to come. For "My" list of uses it came out better for me to grab the vaio.

  57. This is open hardware! by jpatokal · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I'm seeing a lot of griping here about how they dare to charge $250 for installing Linux and how the entire system is overpriced -- well hey, build your own then. The hardware design is open source and available right here, and the full list of commercial components used to build the kit is available here.

    Also, the $6000 price tag is not particularly unreasonable for a commercial wearable computer, eg. Xybernaut's stuff isn't much cheaper. Last year I had the job of purchasing a wearable for our lab -- we almost went with the earlier model of CharmIT, but in the end decided that we needed a bit more power and expandability, so we rolled our own. Had the Crusoe version existed then, we quite probably would have chosen it.

    Cheers,
    -j.

    1. Re:This is open hardware! by jonbrewer · · Score: 2

      I wonder how much more useful a 266mhz Pentium wearable would be than a Sharp Zaurus hacked to use a head-mounted display, like a Sony glasstron. I played with a Zaurus the other day, and noted that it had both SD and CF slots. Sandisk 512 MB CF is $329.99 direct, and I know of few linux apps that won't run in 128MB RAM and 512MB disk.

      Given the power of today's handhelds, I think the wearables makers might just have to lower their prices.

    2. Re:This is open hardware! by jpatokal · · Score: 2
      I wonder how much more useful a 266mhz Pentium wearable would be than a Sharp Zaurus hacked to use a head-mounted display, like a Sony glasstron. I played with a Zaurus the other day, and noted that it had both SD and CF slots. Sandisk 512 MB CF is $329.99 direct, and I know of few linux apps that won't run in 128MB RAM and 512MB disk.

      A good question, but just how are you going to "hack" a Zaurus to use a head-mounted display, or any kind of wearable-friendly input? The sort of miniaturization used in the Zaurus needs big factory runs to be profitable, and the market for wearables remains tiny. In addition, VGA-quality head-mounted displays are expensive, the basic Glasstron is next to useless because of its poor resolution and NTSC-only input. (Yes, there was a PC Glasstron as well, but it was terribly bulky and expensive, and it's been discontinued anyway.)

      Also, instead of forking out big bucks for huge chunks of solid memory, IBM's CompactFlash Microdrives are a much more affordable solution -- you can get as much as an gig's storage with one.

      Cheers,
      -j.

    3. Re:This is open hardware! by jonbrewer · · Score: 2

      I spent some more time thinking this through, and I believe I'll argue both points.

      For a wearable application one would want as few moving parts as possible, low power consumption, and low heat output. I believe solid state CF wins on all counts. In fact, the Sandisk product was actually so tempting to me that I bought a 512 MB CF card this afternoon, albeit for a camera and not for a PDA.

      As for the display, the Zaurus does quite well with 240*320, which should work with Sony's cheap ($500) Video Glasstron. (resolution of 800x255) Other head mounted displays at the exact resolution of 320*240 exist. Information is available from Steve Mann. (the Canadian cyborg guy in the news lately.)

      I think I'll start playing with this at work. It's not too far off my remit. All I have to do is find a problem to solve that needs a wearable solution. :-)

  58. Re:Wiiiiiid! by weeerdo · · Score: 0

    Wide? Your post formatted nicely at 40 columns. Nice try.

  59. remembrance agent; augmented reality by esnible · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I saw Thad Starner demonstrate a Charmed prototype last year.

    I really want one. When the color display becomes affordable I'll buy one.

    What makes a wearable computer different from a palm or laptop computer is that you don't have to look away from the real world to see the display. The display appears to float within the real world. Wearable computers have long battery life and keyboards that allow you to type at near full speed while walking.

    If you only use your wearable computer to run regular programs or play music it isn't worth the extra money. The only benefit is an extra half hour to do email as you walk to your office.

    The target audience for the Charmed kit is people working on wearable-only applications, like the "remembrance agent" or "augmented reality."

    1. Re:remembrance agent; augmented reality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think "augmented reality" is a beautiful and terrible thing....!

      On the plus side, wouldn't it be nice to just say, "take me to the nearest movie theater", and all of a sudden you see an orange 3-D "track" going down the road for you to follow?

      On the other hand, what would it be like to be an "IT have-not" if most of the street signs that are of any use are all virtual "overlays" that you can only get by "subscribing" to an AR "provider"?

      What if, while walking down the street, all the local coffee shops look like boarded-up buildings with graffiti (because of an overlay) while all the Starbucks have overlays saying "Half price lattes today!"? And all because your provider has a special agreement with Starbucks....

      This is going to be interesting, imho...

      -- Ihab A.B. Awad

  60. Warning: Stay away from these guys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Charmed Technologies (once called "Infocharms") has been on Slashdot before, I suggest you go read some threads that criticize the founders and the bogus claims that they've been making.

    This company is hype city, nothing but trouble. According to a friend at the Media Lab, the students at the Media Lab think this the company, and their products, are a total joke. One of the founders, Sandy Pendland (prof at the Media Lab), apparently had to quit because of apparent conflicts of interest.

    I would stay far, far away from these folks. Take the advice from someone who knows these folks.

  61. What is this for by numo · · Score: 1

    Just what am I supposed to do with this - am I missing something? The already existing handhelds are smaller, lighter and even if I buy every type of accessory and CF card out there they are probably still cheaper. And there are some of them that are able to run Linux.

    At $200 I would say "OK, nice platform for embedded solutions". But for an order of magnitude more I just don't see the gap that the CharmIT is trying to fill.

  62. waiting for ... by poleshifter · · Score: 1

    their case is made of flexible aluminum

    i am holding out for flexible AND transparent

    (and i hear rumors that flexible transparent aluminum is also a dessert topping)

  63. display still sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wake me when I can get affordable 1024x768 display sunglasses with a standard connector.

  64. Re:mit is death by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is such an over-the-top troll it's not even funny. I appreciate the skillfulness, as it actually makes me think you might have gone to MIT, but a few key things just make it unbelievable.

    I loved hanging out with a much more down-to-earth middle class demographic instead of the more upper class (or, worse, _aspiring_ to be upper class) demographic of academically comparable schools like Harvard or Yale. I had a great social life since there were plenty of parties, and the people were friendly and never pretended to be anything other than what they were. Plus, you got the freedom and flexibility of a state school with students who had the smarts of a top university.

    The crankiest people at MIT were those with a lot of "natural smarts" who never had to work much in high school and/or the ones whose parents refused to (rather than couldn't) contribute to their MIT tuition. When they "woke up" to what was required of them, they never quite recovered, and if their parents didn't support them, it was even worse because their family wouldn't even appreciate the sacrifices they were making.

    It's not for everyone, but you can always go to Harvard, where you won't have too work to hard, and everyone will tell you you're golden, along with a near-guarantee of graduating with honors.

  65. Favorite Line of Copy by Computer! · · Score: 2

    Plano eyeglasses (for use if you do not wear eyeglasses),

    Now that's knowing your audience.

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  66. +1 (funny) by jrwillis · · Score: 1
    ROFLMAO!!

    One of the funniest things I've seen on here in a while. Thanks for the good laugh man, I really needed it. :)

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  67. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Imagine a Beowolf Cluster of THESE!!!

  68. Proprietary Document Format by Rares+Marian · · Score: 1

    I like this guy.

    Check the bottom of his Comparametric Equations page.

    He calls PDF, Proprietary Document Format.

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  69. A Canadian overclocker's wet dream! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wahhh. For the first time, the warmth generated by an overclocked CPU can be used efficiently during winter!

  70. I wear an Espresso, but will switch to CharmIT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hi,

    I'm a grad student at Georgia Tech. I've been wearing an Espresso in a vest every day, all day for about a year and a half. The Espresso is a smaller version of the Cappuccino.

    I went to a lot of trouble to rig it up so that it would work as a wearable, since the fastest off the shelf wearables at the time (266MHz, IIRC) weren't beefy enough to do continuous voice recognition. The Espresso's Pentium III 800MHz is barely adequate for what I want to do, but I'm mostly happy with the system. It runs both Linux and NetBSD (my OS of choice) just fine. I use the USB ports for networking (Ethernet, Ricochet, Wavelan). To power it I just plugged a couple 7.2V Sony InfoLithium camcorder batteries (in series) directly in to the DC input.

    In general, the Espresso is a nice little machine; it's put up with a lot of abuse over the last 18 months and I'm going to miss it.

    Now that the 800MHz Crusoe is out, I'm switching to a CharmIT as soon as I can. The amount of work it takes to maintain the Espresso has been costly. The designers at SaintSong probably didn't expect that anyone would be wearing an Espresso on a daily basis. I have to constantly deal with things breaking. That's not where I want to spend my time or money, so I see a CharmIT as cheap.

    The CharmIT will also be a lot lighter than the Espresso. My Espresso runs for less than three hours per pound of lithium ion batteries. Since I want my wearable to be active during all waking hours, but I don't want to carry four pounds of batteries just for the Espresso, I have to swap batteries when I get to my office and plug in to a wall outlet if I'll be sitting down for a while. (For those of you who were wondering, battery life is one of the main reasons previous wearables ran at such slow clock rates. The CharmIT can get up to 800MHz only because the Crusoe is very efficient.)

    Ben Wong

    Disclaimer: The professor I work with at Georgia Tech (Thad Starner) is one of the founders of Charmed, so I'm probably biased.