Beacuse labels often own, or have "agreements" with more traditional studios, and going back to the heads saying "You know all that shit we spent 2 million on 4 years ago? It's outdated." People HATE being wrong, especially with money, and even more so when there jobs depend on it. So while a large portion of recordings are possibly edited in Pro Tools, it's become more of an "add-on" for existing "physical studios".
Another thing to keep in mind is that production cost is primarily a "service fee", ie cost the the producer himself, the mastering, the engineer, etc. Their time has, and will always be the most valuable/expensive asset, and irregardless of wether their setup costs $500,000 or $25,000 THEIR TIME will likely never change. Sure, there are great plug-ins that save time, but why should the Suits ever know about this? Just because they could do something in an hour that used to take them 5 doesn't mean they will - and believe me, I know guys like this, and they won't lose there livlihood to a few CD-Roms.
Althought they do look pretty damn cool, it appears that Best Buy just isn't up to par as far as maintaining/servicing these notebooks. A mere 2 months after the release of a lesser, 1.8 Ghz model, they started removing them from thier site. Even their own VPR Matrix website refered back to the Best Buy site for purchase a couple of months ago after the review.
As told to me buy a Best Buy employee (which I always take with a great salt lake after overhearing one say "Wi-Fi will always be faster than ethernet cable becuase wire has resistance, and air has none...", they have been told for a couple of months now that new models are coming, but he had his doubts. He also said that they had a tremendous amount of returns.
Somewhat dissapointing due to the fact that this was the notebook I wanted to buy. Although early critics compared it to a "x86 Powerbook", sadly, the design sorely lacks behind Apple's effort. It's heavier - the ergonomics just aren't there -and although IMHO it's probably the best looking PC notebook out there, the Powerbook still takes the cake as far as design. It's unfortunate Apple doesn't make it's great products for the masses.
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Wow...your the biggest loser I think I've ever seen on Slashdot. And seriously, THAT is deserving of some kind of special prize.
C'mon...A friggin' press release about A SERIAL NUMBER? And what's with C-Net? Good Christ, this isn't news. It's about as shocking as me waking up in the morning and not getting a BJ while feasting on a nice and toasty Egg Mcmuffin.
Working in anti-piracy field for years, I like to quote a VP of Marketing at one of the largest software companies in the world. And wha
"Piracy? We Love Piracy. Hoe else would 12 year old kids know how to use our products...School?"
that's simply a lie. chick dig things they don't normally get, and although this seems odd for a slashdot statement, I'm pretty sure I got laid just because I had a soda machine. Either that, or my charm. And I'm pretty sure it was the previous.:)
Well, I'd be quite interested to learn where you can get pre-mix boxes for $15 (we are talking about 5 gallon here, correct?) Most of the places we had got the discount rate of $35-$40 a box, and that's w/ an exclusive contract with Pepsi. Also, while I do realise that C02 is free, it's damn hard to get it into that little bottle:)
I had my own soda machine setup in our old house for a couple of years. While the appeal is definatly there, cost savings should not be among them. The stories you hear about "the cup costing more than the actual soda" is competely false While it is slight cheaper than purchasing 2-liters, after doing the math, it really only has a cost savings of about 20%, assuming your paying around $40 per pre-mix box, and $15 or so for the CO2. It is damn cool though, and the chicks dig it.
The problem that the industry KNOWS is presenting itself is the fact that the idea of an album or LP is quickly becoming an anqiquated concept. Before the mid-to-late 70's, LP's didn't sell all that well - record labels made their bones off of 45's which sold for around a dollar, or roughly $3-4 today.
The concept of downloading legitimit music is such a good and strong one that the process will eventually become inevitable, but labels don't have a model where they can profit from this.
When you spend $15-$18 on the latest pop-crap-metal-teen-craze, your not paying for the other 10 tracks you didn't hear on the radio - your paying the dues that it took that one track they did manage to get out there, and even THAT is condisdered a huge success. Even today, only about 1 in 30 signed by a major get to even that point.
For backcatalogs, it's certainly a good idea, but it suffers from "Greatest Hits Syndrome", or where sales have lowered to such a point that it's more profitable to sell the singles than hope they people buy the full record. Same with on-line singles - it's a bottom of the barrel effort that there's no backing away from, and you can bet there going to make damn sure there's not other outlets before defaulting to this.
For new music, it's simply not going to happen. Sure you see a few labels experimenting with this, but not on a wide scale. They know there's no money in it - it's simply another promotion to get the name out there.
What I see happening is albums as we know them dying out, and Apple may be in a good place to present this eventually. It's not going to happen overnight by any means, but if labels realise that they can produce a single, and not have to spend the production on a full 40 minutes of filler, they might buy into the idea.
Problem remains, the artists simply won't. And there's your stalemate. Even crap rockers have SOME integrity, and won't give up on the idea of the LP for a long time coming. It could be that full lenghs aren't even dealt with by the majors, or at least not promoted. They once again become secondary to the process - you push the single, find the best way to get it out there fast and cheap (duh), and let the artist have there little masterwork remain out of the spotlight for those who aren't spending there parents money.
Once teenage girls are paying for downloaded music, it becomes a viable model. But not until then.
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Beacuse labels often own, or have "agreements" with more traditional studios, and going back to the heads saying "You know all that shit we spent 2 million on 4 years ago? It's outdated." People HATE being wrong, especially with money, and even more so when there jobs depend on it. So while a large portion of recordings are possibly edited in Pro Tools, it's become more of an "add-on" for existing "physical studios". Another thing to keep in mind is that production cost is primarily a "service fee", ie cost the the producer himself, the mastering, the engineer, etc. Their time has, and will always be the most valuable/expensive asset, and irregardless of wether their setup costs $500,000 or $25,000 THEIR TIME will likely never change. Sure, there are great plug-ins that save time, but why should the Suits ever know about this? Just because they could do something in an hour that used to take them 5 doesn't mean they will - and believe me, I know guys like this, and they won't lose there livlihood to a few CD-Roms.
Now, if I could only stop these assholes who send me unwanted CD-Rom's to my home 3 times a month...
Althought they do look pretty damn cool, it appears that Best Buy just isn't up to par as far as maintaining/servicing these notebooks. A mere 2 months after the release of a lesser, 1.8 Ghz model, they started removing them from thier site. Even their own VPR Matrix website refered back to the Best Buy site for purchase a couple of months ago after the review. As told to me buy a Best Buy employee (which I always take with a great salt lake after overhearing one say "Wi-Fi will always be faster than ethernet cable becuase wire has resistance, and air has none...", they have been told for a couple of months now that new models are coming, but he had his doubts. He also said that they had a tremendous amount of returns. Somewhat dissapointing due to the fact that this was the notebook I wanted to buy. Although early critics compared it to a "x86 Powerbook", sadly, the design sorely lacks behind Apple's effort. It's heavier - the ergonomics just aren't there -and although IMHO it's probably the best looking PC notebook out there, the Powerbook still takes the cake as far as design. It's unfortunate Apple doesn't make it's great products for the masses.
Link to any of the pages....lower left side....you probably don't want to see this.
Wow...your the biggest loser I think I've ever seen on Slashdot. And seriously, THAT is deserving of some kind of special prize.
C'mon...A friggin' press release about A SERIAL NUMBER? And what's with C-Net? Good Christ, this isn't news. It's about as shocking as me waking up in the morning and not getting a BJ while feasting on a nice and toasty Egg Mcmuffin. Working in anti-piracy field for years, I like to quote a VP of Marketing at one of the largest software companies in the world. And wha "Piracy? We Love Piracy. Hoe else would 12 year old kids know how to use our products...School?"
that's simply a lie. chick dig things they don't normally get, and although this seems odd for a slashdot statement, I'm pretty sure I got laid just because I had a soda machine. Either that, or my charm. And I'm pretty sure it was the previous. :)
Well, I'd be quite interested to learn where you can get pre-mix boxes for $15 (we are talking about 5 gallon here, correct?) Most of the places we had got the discount rate of $35-$40 a box, and that's w/ an exclusive contract with Pepsi. Also, while I do realise that C02 is free, it's damn hard to get it into that little bottle :)
I had my own soda machine setup in our old house for a couple of years. While the appeal is definatly there, cost savings should not be among them. The stories you hear about "the cup costing more than the actual soda" is competely false While it is slight cheaper than purchasing 2-liters, after doing the math, it really only has a cost savings of about 20%, assuming your paying around $40 per pre-mix box, and $15 or so for the CO2. It is damn cool though, and the chicks dig it.
If you going to put a tax on the poor, they might as well be poor children.
The problem that the industry KNOWS is presenting itself is the fact that the idea of an album or LP is quickly becoming an anqiquated concept. Before the mid-to-late 70's, LP's didn't sell all that well - record labels made their bones off of 45's which sold for around a dollar, or roughly $3-4 today.
The concept of downloading legitimit music is such a good and strong one that the process will eventually become inevitable, but labels don't have a model where they can profit from this.
When you spend $15-$18 on the latest pop-crap-metal-teen-craze, your not paying for the other 10 tracks you didn't hear on the radio - your paying the dues that it took that one track they did manage to get out there, and even THAT is condisdered a huge success. Even today, only about 1 in 30 signed by a major get to even that point.
For backcatalogs, it's certainly a good idea, but it suffers from "Greatest Hits Syndrome", or where sales have lowered to such a point that it's more profitable to sell the singles than hope they people buy the full record. Same with on-line singles - it's a bottom of the barrel effort that there's no backing away from, and you can bet there going to make damn sure there's not other outlets before defaulting to this.
For new music, it's simply not going to happen. Sure you see a few labels experimenting with this, but not on a wide scale. They know there's no money in it - it's simply another promotion to get the name out there.
What I see happening is albums as we know them dying out, and Apple may be in a good place to present this eventually. It's not going to happen overnight by any means, but if labels realise that they can produce a single, and not have to spend the production on a full 40 minutes of filler, they might buy into the idea.
Problem remains, the artists simply won't. And there's your stalemate. Even crap rockers have SOME integrity, and won't give up on the idea of the LP for a long time coming. It could be that full lenghs aren't even dealt with by the majors, or at least not promoted. They once again become secondary to the process - you push the single, find the best way to get it out there fast and cheap (duh), and let the artist have there little masterwork remain out of the spotlight for those who aren't spending there parents money.
Once teenage girls are paying for downloaded music, it becomes a viable model. But not until then.