Nah, you'll never get there: you can't bribe/threaten/beat or otherwise "enthuse" a computer to do all that. When the moment has come that we can coerce our machines to do work, then that'll happen; not before.
Now/that's/ funny:) Thanks for brightening up my night...god, the turtle-shaped memories:)
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Thanks you, sir, for eliminating yet another source of FUD.
The problem of course is that the common man is so stupid as to need many, many more of that kind of answer before even coming up for consideration as just baseline intelligent, but at least it's a start:)
Not entirely...the quality of a recording is an objective thing (mostly); an mp3 is good quality and an actual recording of what it says it is or it isn't...a binary yes/no.
The comments here on/. are subjective value judgements for the most part...so joe sixpack has a lot of leeway to fsck up:)
Hmmm....moderated P2P sounds like a neat idea. I wonder what else P2P could really be put to use as...I've been thinking p2p-mmorpg (one time buy, no subscription, running in osme kind of VM so other poeples user-made-content couldn't crash/delete important info), or something like that. But what else could one use p2p for?
full 4d graphics for a 3d representational system. I'm not talking about simple computational 3d models or 2 layer 3d monitors, I'm talking about fully 3d displays and the data needed to display a full model on them...no matter how many voxels you use, you need a shitload of data.
...I already have this. Take one pIII 550, 448mb ram, gf2mx, network card, dvdrom drive and cdrom-burner and a hauppage wintv2go card. Then get the dvr software hauppage has on it's website, add mame and your done! I record whatever I want on my HD, timed useing a tvguide website. The only thing I have to do is put in when and what I want to record, presto! That last step is really all that separates my setup from a true tivo...but then, I only pay subscription for my phat.edu line:)
So what exactly is the problem here? That it runs windows?
He's mostly right...mosty of what comes out is crap. It just stands to reason (and empirical evidence:) ).
But what he's missing is that some of it is good, or even great. And even what's crap can spark something great in someones brain. Sounds something like the current media, doesn't it? And it's free, and open to derivative work which can supercede the original in quality, to boot.
Yeah, that popped up on wired acouple of days ago...reading it now on my palm, 76% done. It's pretty decent too, with some neat idea's which I think will pan out in a century or two. I'm just trying to figure out why he calls it 'Whuffie'...world honourarium fee?
Walt Disney is dead. He profitted mightily from his works. Where in that quote does it say his decednants now get the money/rights? 'Authors and Inventors' specificaly does not mention corporations; the law is meant solely for human timescales, which is a lifespan. Limited in that context would to me automatically mean less than 50% of the human-patent/copyright-holder's remaining lifespan. Otherwise it's not limited, but substantial.
Yeah, but don't forget that corporations have been granted certain rights which up until then only humans held...which is mightily wrong, as corporations have no morals and ethics, only a charter telling them to 'make money for the stockholder'.
Exactly the point: you grew up your whole life with mickey mouse, as did your father. As did your granddad. Their whole life has had micky mouse in it. How could anything they/you do or make or create not be tinted (in some tiny way) by that fact? This is not some actual thing (like Coca Cola) we're talking about, this is a cultural nicon, like the flag of a nation, the great literature you've read.
And it's even worse because Disney got to steal from the cultural works of their fathers and grandfathers, but if you decide to do something based on "the little mermaid', there is a chance you could get sued. Or what if your grandkid decides to do some derivative work off 'Lilo and stitch'? He could get sued. Now that's just plain wrong...aka "we can do it, but you can't".
I can get into that argument...OTOH, it is a fully winXP compatible machine, which means I can do some serious CADing on it, use it as a book (how handy that it is already paperback sized!) for four hours (:( ) of reading pleasure or play MOO3 online with it...it's actually not as bad as it sounds. Especially because you can ssh on it:)
...but does that mean that the phone companies are going to use/our/ wifi points when they get congested?
I mean, in a couple of years it's concievable that we use palmpilots or ppc's with VoIP in combination with wifi to get in touch with each other (in the same kind of way that ICQ has worked....when enough people use it, it crosses a critical threshhold and becomes useable for the masses), using, I dunno: URL's or something as phonenumbers.
All it takes is one in five geeks in a city to buy a good wifi point and someone to write good switching software, and you have a free urban VoIP telephone service. Then maybe use some good geek's T1 line to connect the wifi network in that city to the internet, and you can patch multiple wifi networks together, creating a secondary, free, VoIP telephone network.
It just seems to me we need more wifi points, more PDA's and a switching protocol to get free telephony to other geeks like us....or am I making a huge mistake in my thinking?
Hold on there: you're talking about the music industry, right? That one industry where 'payola' still officially exists? 'Pay for play' and all that? Where budding 'artists' (if you can call most of the crap out there that) are held captive when they make a million selling record (the bills actually put them into debt)? And they are now good guys?
WTF?
And what is the difference between the RIAA and the MPAA? They are so closely tied that there isn't really a distinction. Also, look at the organisations themselves...they have mucho much in common. Plus they want the same thing...the MPAA not being in the agreement is just a good tactic...it leaves the free to still lobby for DRM. And seeing as it has more money than the RIAA (as a whole), that was a very smart choice.
And as for a rating system...uhh, a rating system is a good thing, if it helps parents see what their kiddies are listening to/watching (no susbstitute to actually seeing and hearing themselves, but even so). Mandated and inflexible because it's law, that's a bad thing (some 14 year olds are older than most 40 year olds will ever be) , but a rating system 'pur sang' is not a bad thing which takes away end user rights.
Hmmmm...I was thinking more along the lines of the one side not campaigning for something since the other side would put it in anyway/and/ not lobby into law rights protecting the end user's right, quoth the line:
"...the Business Software Alliance and the Computer Systems Policy Project said they would not support legislation that seeks to bolster the rights of users of digital copyrighted material, which the recording industry has said is unnecessary..."
Add your point, and the MPAA has a free shot towards screwing the people without the people doing anything to stop them (appart from associations like the EFF, I hope).
And I'd like to add to that: they're clean and simple; an epitome of website design.
They're above all easy to use and the results are good. That's really the most important factor, period.
Plus they're innovative and usefull, especially in their field: google images, google news, google answers; those are things which fit so briliantly within a searchengines core business that it's no wonder google does them so well.
I think google will stick around for a while, especially looking at the direction, usefullness and insightfullness of their R&D.
That said: if they start sucking, they're out. But that's life.
I know exactly what you mean...I've had this with books and games myself. I read a lot, and one of the ways I do that is by borrowing and lending.
My guess is that the only way the net is going to grow up (and the only way to get the **AA's and the like off our back) is for a respectable bank to step in (or even VISA or Mastercard-alikes) and set up a cheap, reliable, pay-pal-esque micropayment system.
That way we can show our appreciation for whatever strikes our fancy, from old games to a book we borrowed at the library to someone who wrote a cool OS program or someone who wrote an essential 3d graphics tutorial.
I still don't know why the big banks haven't done this, especially since they're all so desperate to get rid of 'real' money in favour of cash on smartcards etc. Shit, give me bio-locked smartcard which allows me to directly, anonymously transfer cash to someone else (without the need for a third device to complete the actual transfer) and I'd use it. It's not a complex concept....
"To be scientifically relivant, causation MUST by proved"
Not entirely true...if something can't be proved, but consistently describess the facts as they are observed, we talk about theories, like Darwin's theory of evolution, Einsteins theory of relativety (general and special) and the like.
To deny something because it hasn't been proven is missing the point. If something hits you on the head and you look back, seeing only me, it's not proven that you were hit by me. But would you at least verbally attack me or would you be looking for that stray angry bird which I say just dive-bombed you?
Not really...my brother just got a Treo 270. The only one available was the one with the keyboard. He's now pretty bummed out for not holding out for the one with a graffiti area. And I hear that kind of thing a lot; the only device people want keyboards on are laptps and pure phones.
PDA's need that stylus, and anyone who still wants a thumb pad, you'll notice, doesn't really use (or need) a PDA to even 20% of it's capabilities.
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Nah, you'll never get there: you can't bribe/threaten/beat or otherwise "enthuse" a computer to do all that. When the moment has come that we can coerce our machines to do work, then that'll happen; not before.
Now /that's/ funny :) Thanks for brightening up my night...god, the turtle-shaped memories :)
Thanks you, sir, for eliminating yet another source of FUD.
:)
The problem of course is that the common man is so stupid as to need many, many more of that kind of answer before even coming up for consideration as just baseline intelligent, but at least it's a start
Just register once and *shock, horror!* remember the freaking login/password!
I really don't blame you for AC'ing that comment.
Not entirely...the quality of a recording is an objective thing (mostly); an mp3 is good quality and an actual recording of what it says it is or it isn't...a binary yes/no.
/. are subjective value judgements for the most part...so joe sixpack has a lot of leeway to fsck up :)
The comments here on
Hmmm....moderated P2P sounds like a neat idea. I wonder what else P2P could really be put to use as...I've been thinking p2p-mmorpg (one time buy, no subscription, running in osme kind of VM so other poeples user-made-content couldn't crash /delete important info), or something like that. But what else could one use p2p for?
An interesting question like that deserves an interesting answer. Too bad it's "we don't know".
:)
Welcome to the wonderfull world of science, where a smart person can ask more than a more informed person can answer
full 4d graphics for a 3d representational system. I'm not talking about simple computational 3d models or 2 layer 3d monitors, I'm talking about fully 3d displays and the data needed to display a full model on them...no matter how many voxels you use, you need a shitload of data.
...I already have this. Take one pIII 550, 448mb ram, gf2mx, network card, dvdrom drive and cdrom-burner and a hauppage wintv2go card. .edu line :)
Then get the dvr software hauppage has on it's website, add mame and your done! I record whatever I want on my HD, timed useing a tvguide website. The only thing I have to do is put in when and what I want to record, presto! That last step is really all that separates my setup from a true tivo...but then, I only pay subscription for my phat
So what exactly is the problem here? That it runs windows?
He's mostly right...mosty of what comes out is crap. It just stands to reason (and empirical evidence :) ).
But what he's missing is that some of it is good, or even great. And even what's crap can spark something great in someones brain.
Sounds something like the current media, doesn't it? And it's free, and open to derivative work which can supercede the original in quality, to boot.
Yeah, that popped up on wired acouple of days ago...reading it now on my palm, 76% done. It's pretty decent too, with some neat idea's which I think will pan out in a century or two. I'm just trying to figure out why he calls it 'Whuffie'...world honourarium fee?
Walt Disney is dead. He profitted mightily from his works. Where in that quote does it say his decednants now get the money/rights? 'Authors and Inventors' specificaly does not mention corporations; the law is meant solely for human timescales, which is a lifespan. Limited in that context would to me automatically mean less than 50% of the human-patent/copyright-holder's remaining lifespan. Otherwise it's not limited, but substantial.
Yeah, but don't forget that corporations have been granted certain rights which up until then only humans held...which is mightily wrong, as corporations have no morals and ethics, only a charter telling them to 'make money for the stockholder'.
That is what allows Enrons to happen.
Exactly the point: you grew up your whole life with mickey mouse, as did your father. As did your granddad. Their whole life has had micky mouse in it. How could anything they/you do or make or create not be tinted (in some tiny way) by that fact? This is not some actual thing (like Coca Cola) we're talking about, this is a cultural nicon, like the flag of a nation, the great literature you've read.
And it's even worse because Disney got to steal from the cultural works of their fathers and grandfathers, but if you decide to do something based on "the little mermaid', there is a chance you could get sued. Or what if your grandkid decides to do some derivative work off 'Lilo and stitch'? He could get sued. Now that's just plain wrong...aka "we can do it, but you can't".
I can get into that argument...OTOH, it is a fully winXP compatible machine, which means I can do some serious CADing on it, use it as a book (how handy that it is already paperback sized!) for four hours ( :( ) of reading pleasure or play MOO3 online with it...it's actually not as bad as it sounds. Especially because you can ssh on it :)
...but does that mean that the phone companies are going to use /our/ wifi points when they get congested?
I mean, in a couple of years it's concievable that we use palmpilots or ppc's with VoIP in combination with wifi to get in touch with each other (in the same kind of way that ICQ has worked....when enough people use it, it crosses a critical threshhold and becomes useable for the masses), using, I dunno: URL's or something as phonenumbers.
All it takes is one in five geeks in a city to buy a good wifi point and someone to write good switching software, and you have a free urban VoIP telephone service. Then maybe use some good geek's T1 line to connect the wifi network in that city to the internet, and you can patch multiple wifi networks together, creating a secondary, free, VoIP telephone network.
It just seems to me we need more wifi points, more PDA's and a switching protocol to get free telephony to other geeks like us....or am I making a huge mistake in my thinking?
Hold on there: you're talking about the music industry, right? That one industry where 'payola' still officially exists? 'Pay for play' and all that? Where budding 'artists' (if you can call most of the crap out there that) are held captive when they make a million selling record (the bills actually put them into debt)? And they are now good guys?
WTF?
And what is the difference between the RIAA and the MPAA? They are so closely tied that there isn't really a distinction. Also, look at the organisations themselves...they have mucho much in common. Plus they want the same thing...the MPAA not being in the agreement is just a good tactic...it leaves the free to still lobby for DRM. And seeing as it has more money than the RIAA (as a whole), that was a very smart choice.
And as for a rating system...uhh, a rating system is a good thing, if it helps parents see what their kiddies are listening to/watching (no susbstitute to actually seeing and hearing themselves, but even so). Mandated and inflexible because it's law, that's a bad thing (some 14 year olds are older than most 40 year olds will ever be) , but a rating system 'pur sang' is not a bad thing which takes away end user rights.
And the MPAA still lobying for DRM means two steps forwards, three steps back.
We lose. Again.
Hmmmm...I was thinking more along the lines of the one side not campaigning for something since the other side would put it in anyway /and/ not lobby into law rights protecting the end user's right, quoth the line:
"...the Business Software Alliance and the Computer Systems Policy Project said they would not support legislation that seeks to bolster the rights of users of digital copyrighted material, which the recording industry has said is unnecessary..."
Add your point, and the MPAA has a free shot towards screwing the people without the people doing anything to stop them (appart from associations like the EFF, I hope).
And I'd like to add to that: they're clean and simple; an epitome of website design.
They're above all easy to use and the results are good. That's really the most important factor, period.
Plus they're innovative and usefull, especially in their field: google images, google news, google answers; those are things which fit so briliantly within a searchengines core business that it's no wonder google does them so well.
I think google will stick around for a while, especially looking at the direction, usefullness and insightfullness of their R&D.
That said: if they start sucking, they're out. But that's life.
A watch, maybe ;)
[for those who would mod this as off-topic, you obviously haven't read all of the Gibson there is out there]
I know exactly what you mean...I've had this with books and games myself. I read a lot, and one of the ways I do that is by borrowing and lending.
My guess is that the only way the net is going to grow up (and the only way to get the **AA's and the like off our back) is for a respectable bank to step in (or even VISA or Mastercard-alikes) and set up a cheap, reliable, pay-pal-esque micropayment system.
That way we can show our appreciation for whatever strikes our fancy, from old games to a book we borrowed at the library to someone who wrote a cool OS program or someone who wrote an essential 3d graphics tutorial.
I still don't know why the big banks haven't done this, especially since they're all so desperate to get rid of 'real' money in favour of cash on smartcards etc. Shit, give me bio-locked smartcard which allows me to directly, anonymously transfer cash to someone else (without the need for a third device to complete the actual transfer) and I'd use it. It's not a complex concept....
"To be scientifically relivant, causation MUST by proved"
Not entirely true...if something can't be proved, but consistently describess the facts as they are observed, we talk about theories, like Darwin's theory of evolution, Einsteins theory of relativety (general and special) and the like.
To deny something because it hasn't been proven is missing the point. If something hits you on the head and you look back, seeing only me, it's not proven that you were hit by me. But would you at least verbally attack me or would you be looking for that stray angry bird which I say just dive-bombed you?
Not really...my brother just got a Treo 270. The only one available was the one with the keyboard. He's now pretty bummed out for not holding out for the one with a graffiti area. And I hear that kind of thing a lot; the only device people want keyboards on are laptps and pure phones.
PDA's need that stylus, and anyone who still wants a thumb pad, you'll notice, doesn't really use (or need) a PDA to even 20% of it's capabilities.
Oh, just don't forget the graphing, algebraic calculator and the matrix solver! And isilo! They've been real handy on my old IIIc.
As for those grumbling about graffiti...if it's hard for you to learn, I pity your poor learning skills.