The comments on these photo's sound very much like the pictures of the monster at Lock Ness. perhaps the same phenomena underlies the 'realty' of both sets of creatures.
yeah , but we don't want security research to create viruses and that might get released into the net just so they can figure out what 'might' happen, that and if every computer on the whole earth crashed , that is nothing compared the the economic, cultural and human destruction that would take place if a strong strain of this bug gets loose.
assuming whatever they made up in the lab was in someway close enough to the naturally evolved pathogen. of coarse how could anyone know what that even means.
Lets see.. forest fire vs
50% of 7bil dead and a probable end of our ability to carry out commerce or have a technologically advanced civilzation for a few centuries. hmm... which one sounds like a more serious consequence to you?
I don't care how professional, careful , trustworthy etc your group is sooner or later a mistake will be made or an accident beyond their control. Fire , earthquake, tornado, what do suppose it would take.
and the average age could be rolled back as well. Much of the 'crisis' is due to a much older population needing more help to stay healthy. An effect of the legalization of contraception.
One of the things 'personalized' medicine addresses is the 'well that's not me' factor that is in may people mind. The reality is that a percentage of people in the population will never need to worry about cholesterol problems and the knowledge that such people exist allow others to live in the illusion that they may not have to worry about it either. Personalized medicine will allow the Dr, to tell a person YOU need to not 'X' or you will have 'Y' happen.
The problem however is that it is always a percentage game. Some of the genes we have found so far increase a persons chances of developing a certain type of cancer by 1 or 2 %. So is that enough to warrant changers in behavior.
People who work in computers for a living already know that their carrier choice raises their cancer risk by something like 20% ( how many of them left their careers because of it though).
Part of the problem is understanding the risk... and them excepting the consequences if they show up. ( are we allowed to do that anymore !!)
This is incorrect. Something you have implies a non-perm object that you posses. Something issued to you for the purpose of securing trust between you and others. A prime example is your drivers license or credit card. or a letter of recrimination with some official seal.
It is a distinct category from 'something you are' because 'what you are' is harder to change more often then not impossible, weather or not it is compromised.
If your credit card is stolen it can be re-issued. If your finger prints are compromised they are very hard to change, which is why they need a different category. The reason for the different category is exactly the reason you specified, that the non-replaceable nature of the subject changes it's use in establishing trust significantly compared to a card or a pin/ password.
This seems like a false dichotomy all of these are just ways of establishing a trusted relationship. ex: consider a system that requires passwords to be unique but after given a password uses it to decrepit a set of bio-metric templates and then authenticates the identity of the person using those bio metrics.
in the end it is all about HOW strong and how expensive your security needs to be. If we could build a computer that was more accurate then your best friend at identifying you using multiple bio metrics ( voice, face, body, smell , DNA) would that be good enough?
The system could still be made more secure , very cheaply by requiring you have a badge and know a pin.
Bio metrics , are possibly the most natural way of establishing trust , but they are also the most expensive way.
The have the added disadvantage that once compromised , they are very difficult to change.
I have worked for years with security and authentication. there are three ways to establish trust. Something you have , something are , something you know. that will never change. and most any one of them can be compromised. thus it is better to build systems that use more then one.
care keys ( something you have) thumb print ( something you are) password/ pass phrase/ etc. ( something you know) .
all three together are more secure and more trust can be built by using multiple aspects but the easiest will be probably always be something you know.
Think about it authentication before computers.
Go to the bank ( hopefully the banker recognized you ( multiple bio metric) ) do you have your checkbook / check card/ pass book? do you have a pin / password etc.
it really won't ever get much better you can use more and more bio metrics but that won't stop fraud only make it more costly.
He was living where? and committed a crime in which country? I'd love to see China start insisting U.S or U.K citizens need to be extradited to because they are 'defaming the party' as is against the law in China.
Sorry guys this is just WRONG. It is one thing if you don't like a web site , but that site is certainly governed under the jurisdiction of the country the sites owner lives in.
If the server is in your country , by all means shut it down , but if the server and the owner are not in your country they aren't covered by your laws.
Honestly, I have never seen no do i care what degree , from what medical school my doctor graduated. What I DO care about is they are licensed to practice medicine in my state. ( hopefully the test for a license are sufficient to ensure they know what they are doing, because they are the only real safeguard in place , like it or not.)
Right now you have to be a 'good ol' boy' and prove you graduated from college to get your license, but it seems to me that if the test is sufficient to actually measure what you know then why not allow people to self educate. if it isn't sufficient then why give the test at all.
They also should have known to wait until there was a republic president in office because most 'good republicans' know that what is good for big business ( no matter how much it stifles competition or destroys the economy) is good for the nation. ( that is sarcasm there if you missed it). Which is one of my major beefs with the republican party. The democrats would be a lot easier to support however if they were not actively pushing abortion and buggery.
This is what is wrong with the business world as a whole worldwide. It isn't 'good enough' to make a quality product that provides something useful to you customers and pays all the employees while turning a smallish profit. it must GROW GROW GROW , which sooner or later always messes over the customer and creates unstable markets, because guess what , resources and capital aren't infinite.
And what do they say about the level of danger of talking to your passengers or dealing with crying children relative to using a hands free set?
Sorry you can't legislate out stupidity, and human error is to require machines to do the driving. Then you will have only 'machine error' to blame when the same accidents happen and the same people get killed. Seriously how safe do you want to be. Let's make it illegal to drive. That would be safest.
"I came from nothingness, and now I must contemplate returning to nothingness" -- can you prove that? It would seem inconsistent with all the scientific evidence. Or do you know of some event which has no cause?
hmm... haven't studied this. Is there a nonzero chance of large area's being rendered uninhabitable for 100 + years when one of these things explodes because it was hit by ( bus, tsunami, terrorist)?
If so i still oppose their use on the grounds that the low frequency risk is still beyond catastrophic. Otherwise sounds interesting.
Suppose we only have 1 Chernobyl like event every 100 years. in 1000 years there 10 areas the size of some U.S states that would be toxic to human life for a longer period of time then most governments have exists. Seems quite the legacy to leave the future to me.
Just because you can use it to store data doesn't mean it will make a good processor any time soon. how long does it take to switch states. That's why flash ram is not used in primary memory.
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The consumer ( aka normal people) are in control of their own decisions about information and culture?
Oh no, whatever will we do.
The comments on these photo's sound very much like the pictures of the monster at Lock Ness.
perhaps the same phenomena underlies the 'realty' of both sets of creatures.
yeah, but the point is , does anyone know the likelood that the similarities would be enough to be useful in creating a vaccine for the wild one?
yeah , but we don't want security research to create viruses and that might get released into the net just so they can figure out what 'might' happen, that and if every computer on the whole earth crashed , that is nothing compared the the economic, cultural and human destruction that would take place if a strong strain of this bug gets loose.
assuming whatever they made up in the lab was in someway close enough to the naturally evolved pathogen. of coarse how could anyone know what that even means.
Lets see.. forest fire vs
50% of 7bil dead and a probable end of our ability to carry out commerce or have a technologically advanced civilzation for a few centuries. hmm... which one sounds like a more serious consequence to you?
I don't care how professional, careful , trustworthy etc your group is sooner or later a mistake will be made or an accident beyond their control. Fire , earthquake, tornado, what do suppose it would take.
I see. SOMEONE will do it .. so that makes is moral for ANYONE to do it when NOBODY should be doing it.
hmm....
and the average age could be rolled back as well. Much of the 'crisis' is due to a much older population needing more help to stay healthy.
An effect of the legalization of contraception.
One of the things 'personalized' medicine addresses is the 'well that's not me' factor that is in may people mind.
The reality is that a percentage of people in the population will never need to worry about cholesterol problems and the knowledge that such people exist allow others to live in the illusion that they may not have to worry about it either.
Personalized medicine will allow the Dr, to tell a person YOU need to not 'X' or you will have 'Y' happen.
The problem however is that it is always a percentage game. Some of the genes we have found so far increase a persons chances of developing a certain type of cancer by 1 or 2 %. So is that enough to warrant changers in behavior.
People who work in computers for a living already know that their carrier choice raises their cancer risk by something like 20% ( how many of them left their careers because of it though).
Part of the problem is understanding the risk ... and them excepting the consequences if they show up.
( are we allowed to do that anymore !!)
This is incorrect. Something you have implies a non-perm object that you posses. Something issued to you for the purpose of securing trust between you and others. A prime example is your drivers license or credit card. or a letter of recrimination with some official seal.
It is a distinct category from 'something you are' because 'what you are' is harder to change more often then not impossible, weather or not it is compromised.
If your credit card is stolen it can be re-issued.
If your finger prints are compromised they are very hard to change, which is why they need a different category.
The reason for the different category is exactly the reason you specified, that the non-replaceable nature of the subject changes it's use in establishing trust significantly compared to a card or a pin/ password.
This seems like a false dichotomy
all of these are just ways of establishing a trusted relationship.
ex: consider a system that requires passwords to be unique but after given a password uses it to decrepit a set of bio-metric templates and then authenticates the identity of the person using those bio metrics.
in the end it is all about HOW strong and how expensive your security needs to be.
If we could build a computer that was more accurate then your best friend at identifying you using multiple bio metrics ( voice, face, body, smell , DNA) would that be good enough?
The system could still be made more secure , very cheaply by requiring you have a badge and know a pin.
Bio metrics , are possibly the most natural way of establishing trust , but they are also the most expensive way.
The have the added disadvantage that once compromised , they are very difficult to change.
I have worked for years with security and authentication.
there are three ways to establish trust. Something you have , something are , something you know.
that will never change. and most any one of them can be compromised. thus it is better to build systems that use
more then one.
care keys ( something you have)
thumb print ( something you are)
password/ pass phrase/ etc. ( something you know) .
all three together are more secure and more trust can be built by using multiple aspects but the easiest will be probably always be something you know.
Think about it authentication before computers.
Go to the bank ( hopefully the banker recognized you ( multiple bio metric) )
do you have your checkbook / check card/ pass book?
do you have a pin / password etc.
it really won't ever get much better you can use more and more bio metrics but that won't stop fraud only make it more costly.
He was living where? and committed a crime in which country?
I'd love to see China start insisting U.S or U.K citizens need to be extradited to because they are 'defaming the party' as is against the law in China.
Sorry guys this is just WRONG. It is one thing if you don't like a web site , but that site is certainly governed under the jurisdiction of the country the sites owner lives in.
If the server is in your country , by all means shut it down , but if the server and the owner are not in your country they aren't covered by your laws.
Honestly, I have never seen no do i care what degree , from what medical school my doctor graduated.
What I DO care about is they are licensed to practice medicine in my state. ( hopefully the test for a license are sufficient to ensure they know what they are doing, because they are the only real safeguard in place , like it or not.)
Right now you have to be a 'good ol' boy' and prove you graduated from college to get your license, but it seems to me that if the test is sufficient to actually measure what you know then why not allow people to self educate. if it isn't sufficient then why give the test at all.
They also should have known to wait until there was a republic president in office because most 'good republicans' know that what is good for big business ( no matter how much it stifles competition or destroys the economy) is good for the nation. ( that is sarcasm there if you missed it).
Which is one of my major beefs with the republican party. The democrats would be a lot easier to support however if they were not actively pushing abortion and buggery.
This is what is wrong with the business world as a whole worldwide. It isn't 'good enough' to make a quality product that provides something useful to you customers and pays all the employees while turning a smallish profit. it must GROW GROW GROW , which sooner or later always messes over the customer and creates unstable markets, because guess what , resources and capital aren't infinite.
even the weapons they admit to having .. never mind the equipment that 'doesn't exists'
As simple evidence it doesn't matter. Consider the protest and Tienanmen square. everyone knows how it ended. What effect did it have?
They don't need too. They just say that's what you get if you don't do what your told.
Fear is the way these things are done. You obey or die.
Atheism requires no less faith then deism.
And what do they say about the level of danger of talking to your passengers or dealing with crying children relative to using a hands free set?
Sorry you can't legislate out stupidity, and human error is to require machines to do the driving. Then you will have only 'machine error' to blame when the same accidents happen and the same people get killed. Seriously how safe do you want to be. Let's make it illegal to drive. That would be safest.
"I came from nothingness, and now I must contemplate returning to nothingness" -- can you prove that?
It would seem inconsistent with all the scientific evidence. Or do you know of some event which has no cause?
hmm... haven't studied this. Is there a nonzero chance of large area's being rendered uninhabitable for 100 + years when one of these things explodes because it was hit by ( bus, tsunami, terrorist)?
If so i still oppose their use on the grounds that the low frequency risk is still beyond catastrophic. Otherwise sounds interesting.
Suppose we only have 1 Chernobyl like event every 100 years. in 1000 years there 10 areas the size of some U.S states that would be toxic to human life for a longer period of time then most governments have exists. Seems quite the legacy to leave the future to me.
after all, with all the mosquitoes gone I'm sure the rest of the critters that depend on them as a food source will find something else to eat.
Just because you can use it to store data doesn't mean it will make a good processor any time soon.
how long does it take to switch states. That's why flash ram is not used in primary memory.