Heheeh it took me too long to figure out someone responded to this, so you will probably never read this, but who cares, ill respond anyways;)
My point is that a law has nothing to do with the parents - it is black and white: if you are under X years old, you cannot play games "Y" or "Z"
Right now, parents have as much control over what their kids watch or play as they ever will - They are even given ratings that are clear as day on the boxes of the games, giving them the information needed to make a (somewhat) sound judgement on the content found within.
So I stand with my original statement: laws != parental control... laws = government control.
Having said all this, I might add that I do not feel strongly either way... maybe a law banning sale of games to minors is a good thing - I have not thought about it enough to draw a conclusion as of yet... I only responded in the first place because the parent post had stated an obvious contradiction.
Check out control scheme "C" in the options menu... It takes a little bit to get the hang of, but once you do, it is infinitely easier to control versus the default control scheme. (essentially the forward movement of the character is pushed off onto the upper-right button, leaving the directional-stick to control only turning and backing up)
Leia: Would it help if I got out and pushed?
Han:.... it might!
Half of the fun of the original trilogy was the fun/funny dialogue - not just the great action sequences... The characters seemed so alive - like they were going on this crazy ride right along with the audience.
TPM had bar-none the worst character interaction in a film that I have ever seen... Even respected actors like Liam Neeson and Ewan McGregor come off as sedated and mail-in a performance easy to forget.
Lucas really should have learned from the previous trilogy and handed over the direction (not to mention script editing) to the more skilled and experienced. When Liam Neeson, Ewan McGregor, and Natalie Portman (in her own a great actress) all deliver stale and horrible performances, you cannot blame the actors... It is the director and the script at fault.
I agree 100% - I will definitely see AOTC, but I must say I am expecting it to be complete crap.
well, the government can't tell on a child to child basis, but parents can.
Um, we are talking about government action here... You are contradicting yourself. You have every right to decide which games your child can buy - no new law is necessary for this, understand?
I'm 15 years too, and altough I don't live in the USA, it must be like hell over there. I know kids of my age who are beeing treated like an 5 year old (imho), like: "don't play that game, it's too violent" and "no don't play that game, it contains nasty words", those thing make kids (and eventually adults) people with absolutely zero understanding of the real world(TM).
Just keep in mind that many other countries have it far worse than the USA... Germany in particular comes to mind as far as censoring games, though I must admit I cannot remember any specifics offhand (GTA3, Wolfenstein2? - sorry for the lack of specifics)
What is being discussed in this country is keeping the games out of the hands of people under a certain age, not banning them altogether (which is a completely different, and far less severe, animal)
Sure, capitalism is a cure all! Tell that to the people who live directly below me that can't feed themselves if the kids eat.
I am sorry for the people who live below you: But trust me when I say that our country is quite well off and you would no doubt know some lesser-fortunate individuals no matter what country your from - Just a lot less of them here.
What are you suggesting as an alternative economic model? I think you missed a class on "typical uninformed anti-capitialist ranting".... We are the "rich" and "powerful" and "greedy" ones, remember? I suggest you hook up with the other college kids at the local anti-globalization meeting and make sure you are all on the same page.
My question is that when one company has more cash on hand than Fort Knox - doesn't that make our money worthless (or more since they don't spread it around).
I honestly do not know if it makes my money less valuable, but I am quite happy with the value of our currency as is so I cannot complain too much... Plus, keep in mind that MS does put a lot of money into our economy (look at the Xbox... flagging sales, sellilng at a loss, who-knows-how-much spent in advertising, etc)...
That being said, MS should be broken up precisely because they are not part of a good capitalist society - which depends on competition. Their current position is closer in line to that of government - scary indeed.
Whats funny is, we dont want to allow china and russia to do what we did to build their countries.
Yes, and Japan in WW2 was not doing anything that Britian didn't do a long time before that... What are you trying to say - that we should never learn from our mistakes in the past?
What exactly aren't we "allowing" China and Russia to do? Are you suggesting that they would be better off if we were to "allow" them use slavery to develop a strong agricultural economy? Just look at how great slavery worked out for us... the bloodiest war of in our history and racial tension 140 years later... fantastic.
A few points for your information:
1) China has had its fair share of slavery and invasions, etc, in its extensive (and impressive) history... I would say most if not all countries have black-marks on their historical record.
2) I would not worry too much about China... They are rapidly advancing into a modernized country - Its just too bad that they dont enjoy the freedoms that you do.
3) The new form of slavery (if there is one) are sweat-shops... If you want to do your part, inform yourself and do not buy products that are manufactured in them (Nike, etc)
little companies cant compete with mcdonalds. companies in china cant create their own microsoft like company to make an OS.
I do not mean to keep responding to your posts - But where exactly are you getting your information? I live in Boston, and by walking down the various streets one is virtually bombarded by all the various Mom & Pop and local restaurants. Not only are they able to stay in business, but such private resturants are far more popular, numerous, and respected than any large corporate eating establishment such as McDonalds.
Do you honestly think that the might McDonald's food-chain has any sort of monopoly over us? Companies like that have reached saturation in the US - If anything they are on the decline. Its called free-enterprise and consumer choice - give it a shot sometime and you might like it.
As for China not being able to create an OS because of Microsoft... 1) I agree that MS is a monopoly and something should be done about it, but 2) China I dont think is going to be hindered too much by them... ever hear of Red Flag Linux??
Yes your right - Slavey built the USA... that certainly explains why the USA has been going downhill for the past 140 years or so since it was -
Oh, wait...
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Heheeh it took me too long to figure out someone responded to this, so you will probably never read this, but who cares, ill respond anyways ;)
My point is that a law has nothing to do with the parents - it is black and white: if you are under X years old, you cannot play games "Y" or "Z"
Right now, parents have as much control over what their kids watch or play as they ever will - They are even given ratings that are clear as day on the boxes of the games, giving them the information needed to make a (somewhat) sound judgement on the content found within.
So I stand with my original statement: laws != parental control... laws = government control.
Having said all this, I might add that I do not feel strongly either way... maybe a law banning sale of games to minors is a good thing - I have not thought about it enough to draw a conclusion as of yet... I only responded in the first place because the parent post had stated an obvious contradiction.
Check out control scheme "C" in the options menu... It takes a little bit to get the hang of, but once you do, it is infinitely easier to control versus the default control scheme. (essentially the forward movement of the character is pushed off onto the upper-right button, leaving the directional-stick to control only turning and backing up)
Oh sure, there are a million examples like that:
.... it might!
Leia: Would it help if I got out and pushed?
Han:
Half of the fun of the original trilogy was the fun/funny dialogue - not just the great action sequences... The characters seemed so alive - like they were going on this crazy ride right along with the audience.
TPM had bar-none the worst character interaction in a film that I have ever seen... Even respected actors like Liam Neeson and Ewan McGregor come off as sedated and mail-in a performance easy to forget.
Lucas really should have learned from the previous trilogy and handed over the direction (not to mention script editing) to the more skilled and experienced. When Liam Neeson, Ewan McGregor, and Natalie Portman (in her own a great actress) all deliver stale and horrible performances, you cannot blame the actors... It is the director and the script at fault.
I agree 100% - I will definitely see AOTC, but I must say I am expecting it to be complete crap.
*SPOILER
- Padme engages in a threeway with a Gungan and a droid
- One of the three is a "screamer" in the sac - (hint, its not Padme or the Gungan)
turrets, torrets (sp?)
well, the government can't tell on a child to child basis, but parents can.
Um, we are talking about government action here... You are contradicting yourself. You have every right to decide which games your child can buy - no new law is necessary for this, understand?
I'm 15 years too, and altough I don't live in the USA, it must be like hell over there. I know kids of my age who are beeing treated like an 5 year old (imho), like: "don't play that game, it's too violent" and "no don't play that game, it contains nasty words", those thing make kids (and eventually adults) people with absolutely zero understanding of the real world(TM).
Just keep in mind that many other countries have it far worse than the USA... Germany in particular comes to mind as far as censoring games, though I must admit I cannot remember any specifics offhand (GTA3, Wolfenstein2? - sorry for the lack of specifics)
What is being discussed in this country is keeping the games out of the hands of people under a certain age, not banning them altogether (which is a completely different, and far less severe, animal)
Sure, capitalism is a cure all! Tell that to the people who live directly below me that can't feed themselves if the kids eat.
I am sorry for the people who live below you: But trust me when I say that our country is quite well off and you would no doubt know some lesser-fortunate individuals no matter what country your from - Just a lot less of them here.
What are you suggesting as an alternative economic model? I think you missed a class on "typical uninformed anti-capitialist ranting"
My question is that when one company has more cash on hand than Fort Knox - doesn't that make our money worthless (or more since they don't spread it around).
I honestly do not know if it makes my money less valuable, but I am quite happy with the value of our currency as is so I cannot complain too much... Plus, keep in mind that MS does put a lot of money into our economy (look at the Xbox... flagging sales, sellilng at a loss, who-knows-how-much spent in advertising, etc)...
That being said, MS should be broken up precisely because they are not part of a good capitalist society - which depends on competition. Their current position is closer in line to that of government - scary indeed.
Whats funny is, we dont want to allow china and russia to do what we did to build their countries.
Yes, and Japan in WW2 was not doing anything that Britian didn't do a long time before that... What are you trying to say - that we should never learn from our mistakes in the past?
What exactly aren't we "allowing" China and Russia to do? Are you suggesting that they would be better off if we were to "allow" them use slavery to develop a strong agricultural economy? Just look at how great slavery worked out for us... the bloodiest war of in our history and racial tension 140 years later... fantastic.
A few points for your information:
1) China has had its fair share of slavery and invasions, etc, in its extensive (and impressive) history... I would say most if not all countries have black-marks on their historical record.
2) I would not worry too much about China... They are rapidly advancing into a modernized country - Its just too bad that they dont enjoy the freedoms that you do.
3) The new form of slavery (if there is one) are sweat-shops... If you want to do your part, inform yourself and do not buy products that are manufactured in them (Nike, etc)
little companies cant compete with mcdonalds. companies in china cant create their own microsoft like company to make an OS. I do not mean to keep responding to your posts - But where exactly are you getting your information? I live in Boston, and by walking down the various streets one is virtually bombarded by all the various Mom & Pop and local restaurants. Not only are they able to stay in business, but such private resturants are far more popular, numerous, and respected than any large corporate eating establishment such as McDonalds. Do you honestly think that the might McDonald's food-chain has any sort of monopoly over us? Companies like that have reached saturation in the US - If anything they are on the decline. Its called free-enterprise and consumer choice - give it a shot sometime and you might like it. As for China not being able to create an OS because of Microsoft... 1) I agree that MS is a monopoly and something should be done about it, but 2) China I dont think is going to be hindered too much by them... ever hear of Red Flag Linux??
Yes your right - Slavey built the USA... that certainly explains why the USA has been going downhill for the past 140 years or so since it was - Oh, wait...