You wouldn't hire a painter and then stand next to him with a stopwatch adding up the amount of time his brush spends in contact with the canvas, would you?
Although you are correct that it is a pejorative term I don't think being a dilettante is the worst thing you could do. Being the sort that only uses their cognitive apparatus to combat cognitive dissonance is up there though.
Why should I pay for your health care? I don't have kids. Why should I pay for your education? I have Wikipedia. Why should I pay for your OS? I have Linux.
In short, the people arguing that everyone should buy intellectual property are the worst kind of socialists in wolves clothing.
Oh please, show me where people are taught that the government should have infinite power and that business is bad. This whining is getting really annoying.
The Texas Freedom Network continues to live blog the Texas State Board of Education hearings where the collection of ignorant dolts on that board debate and amend the social studies standards. And it's getting downright surreal. They actually removed Thomas Jefferson and the Enlightenment from the history standards. Seriously.
9:27 - The board is taking up remaining amendments on the high school world history course.
9:30 - Board member Cynthia Dunbar wants to change a standard having students study the impact of Enlightenment ideas on political revolutions from 1750 to the present. She wants to drop the reference to Enlightenment ideas (replacing with "the writings of") and to Thomas Jefferson. She adds Thomas Aquinas and others. Jefferson's ideas, she argues, were based on other political philosophers listed in the standards. We don't buy her argument at all. Board member Bob Craig of Lubbock points out that the curriculum writers clearly wanted to students to study Enlightenment ideas and Jefferson. Could Dunbar's problem be that Jefferson was a Deist? The board approves the amendment, taking Thomas Jefferson OUT of the world history standards.
9:40 - We're just picking ourselves up off the floor. The board's far-right faction has spent months now proclaiming the importance of emphasizing America's exceptionalism in social studies classrooms. But today they voted to remove one of the greatest of America's Founders, Thomas Jefferson, from a standard about the influence of great political philosophers on political revolutions from 1750 to today.
9:45 - Here's the amendment Dunbar changed: "explain the impact of Enlightenment ideas from John Locke, Thomas Hobbes, Voltaire, Charles de Montesquieu, Jean Jacques Rousseau, and Thomas Jefferson on political revolutions from 1750 to the present." Here's Dunbar's replacement standard, which passed: "explain the impact of the writings of John Locke, Thomas Hobbes, Voltaire, Charles de Montesquieu, Jean Jacques Rousseau, Thomas Aquinas, John Calvin and Sir William Blackstone." Not only does Dunbar's amendment completely change the thrust of the standard. It also appalling drops one of the most influential political philosophers in American history -- Thomas Jefferson.
9:51 - Dunbar's amendment striking Jefferson passed with the votes of the board's far-right members and board member Geraldine "Tincy" Miller of Dallas.
The standard was about the Enlightenment and political revolutions that led to modern liberal democracy. So they removed the Enlightenment references and Thomas Jefferson, who played a key role in the two most prominent revolutions in the history of the Western world, and replaced them with Thomas Aquinas, who lived 500 years before the Enlightenment, and John Calvin, who lived 200 years before the Enlightenment and was a major figure in an entirely different period of history, the Reformation, which preceded the Enlightenment.
Yes, you should, in fact, be mouthing the words "what the fuck" right about now.
And the stupidity continues:
11:21 - Board member Barbara Cargill wants to insert a discussion of the right to bear arms in a standard that focuses on First Amendment rights and the expression of various points of view. This is absurd. If they want students to study the right to bear arms, at least try to find an appropriate place in the standards for it. This is yet another example of politicians destroying the coherence of a curriculum document for no reason other than promoting ideological pet causes. Republican board member Bob Craig of Lubbock is suggesting a better place for such a standard. But the amendment passes anyway. The board's far-right faction is simply impervious to logic.
11:30 - Board member Pat Hardy notes that elsewhere the standards already require students to study each of the freedoms and rights guaranteed by the Bill of Rights. No one seems to care.
11:33 - Bob Craig tries, once again, to talk some sense into these
There have also been efforts among conservatives on the board to tweak the history of the civil rights movement. One amendment states that the movement created “unrealistic expectations of equal outcomes” among minorities. Another proposed change removes any reference to race, sex or religion in talking about how different groups have contributed to the national identity.
The amendments are also intended to emphasize the unalloyed superiority of the “free-enterprise system” over others and the desirability of limited government.
One says publishers should “describe the effects of increasing government regulation and taxation on economic development and business planning.”
Throughout the standards, the conservatives have pushed to drop references to American “imperialism,” preferring to call it expansionism. “Country and western music” has been added to the list of cultural movements to be studied.
References to Ralph Nader and Ross Perot are proposed to be removed, while Stonewall Jackson, the Confederate general, is to be listed as a role model for effective leadership, and the ideas in Jefferson Davis’s inaugural address are to be laid side by side with Abraham Lincoln’s speeches.
Early in the hearing on Wednesday, Mr. McLeroy and other conservatives on the board made it clear they would offer still more planks to highlight what they see as the Christian roots of the Constitution and other founding documents.
“To deny the Judeo-Christian values of our founding fathers is just a lie to our kids,” said Ken Mercer, a San Antonio Republican.
So you don't actually know Ruby or Rails, but you know that my example is less functional. You're kind of all over the place in the rest of your post, and the "ooh scary" remarks don't really help your case (which, as far as I can tell is "I am annoyed that you would compare PHP with Ruby unfavorably")
Look I'm sorry if I offended you, I didn't mean to cause so much outrage just by comparing code excerpts directly from the SolarPHP documentation,with an example adapted from upcoming Rails 3.1 documentation.
You sound like someone with a fair share of experience with informed opinions about the tools you like to use. Well, me too. I think your last remark is dead-on, but I had a different point I was trying to make. I never said "Rails is awesome, everyone should use it all the time!"
I have to say though, your counterpoint is a bit forced. It's not about reducing keystrokes at all costs, it's about providing the programmer with useful abstractions and reducing the need for him to repeat him or herself. Let's be real here and just admit that PHP doesn't make this easy for frameworks.
If we used what was everywhere everyone would be developing websites in.NET to deploy on their Windows intranet. But it's a lot easier to be sarcastic than have a point other than "lol nobody uses Rails" (as if that were even close to true).
The reason nobody cares about your web framework is that they'd rather type: def index
@posts = Post.where(:status => 'public').order('created DESC') end
instead of:
<?php
public function actionIndex()
{// public blog articles in descending order, all result pages
$fetch = array(
'where' => array('blogs.status = ?' => 'public'),
'order' => 'blogs.created DESC',
'page' => 'all',
);// fetch all matching records
$this->list = $this->_model->blogs->fetchAll($fetch);
} ?>
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You wouldn't hire a painter and then stand next to him with a stopwatch adding up the amount of time his brush spends in contact with the canvas, would you?
Although you are correct that it is a pejorative term I don't think being a dilettante is the worst thing you could do. Being the sort that only uses their cognitive apparatus to combat cognitive dissonance is up there though.
"The prevailing theories in science might one day be overturned so why shouldn't I remain ignorant?"
These are the same people who will insist that using anything more abstract than C means you're not a real programmer.
At the end of the day, thinking for them is more about ego-defense than actual synthesis.
I'm pretty sure my unibody macbook pro is a consumer product.
People are laughing because you sound like the Glenn Beck of computing trends.
Parent is not a troll, but rather was hastily moderated by one of the people it describes.
Why should I pay for your health care? I don't have kids.
Why should I pay for your education? I have Wikipedia.
Why should I pay for your OS? I have Linux.
In short, the people arguing that everyone should buy intellectual property are the worst kind of socialists in wolves clothing.
go away you uppity socialist homophobe
nope, their socialest
What a socialist nightmare!
Oh please, show me where people are taught that the government should have infinite power and that business is bad. This whining is getting really annoying.
emphasis added
The Texas Freedom Network continues to live blog the Texas State Board of Education hearings where the collection of ignorant dolts on that board debate and amend the social studies standards. And it's getting downright surreal. They actually removed Thomas Jefferson and the Enlightenment from the history standards. Seriously.
9:27 - The board is taking up remaining amendments on the high school world history course.
9:30 - Board member Cynthia Dunbar wants to change a standard having students study the impact of Enlightenment ideas on political revolutions from 1750 to the present. She wants to drop the reference to Enlightenment ideas (replacing with "the writings of") and to Thomas Jefferson. She adds Thomas Aquinas and others. Jefferson's ideas, she argues, were based on other political philosophers listed in the standards. We don't buy her argument at all. Board member Bob Craig of Lubbock points out that the curriculum writers clearly wanted to students to study Enlightenment ideas and Jefferson. Could Dunbar's problem be that Jefferson was a Deist? The board approves the amendment, taking Thomas Jefferson OUT of the world history standards.
9:40 - We're just picking ourselves up off the floor. The board's far-right faction has spent months now proclaiming the importance of emphasizing America's exceptionalism in social studies classrooms. But today they voted to remove one of the greatest of America's Founders, Thomas Jefferson, from a standard about the influence of great political philosophers on political revolutions from 1750 to today.
9:45 - Here's the amendment Dunbar changed: "explain the impact of Enlightenment ideas from John Locke, Thomas Hobbes, Voltaire, Charles de Montesquieu, Jean Jacques Rousseau, and Thomas Jefferson on political revolutions from 1750 to the present." Here's Dunbar's replacement standard, which passed: "explain the impact of the writings of John Locke, Thomas Hobbes, Voltaire, Charles de Montesquieu, Jean Jacques Rousseau, Thomas Aquinas, John Calvin and Sir William Blackstone." Not only does Dunbar's amendment completely change the thrust of the standard. It also appalling drops one of the most influential political philosophers in American history -- Thomas Jefferson.
9:51 - Dunbar's amendment striking Jefferson passed with the votes of the board's far-right members and board member Geraldine "Tincy" Miller of Dallas.
The standard was about the Enlightenment and political revolutions that led to modern liberal democracy. So they removed the Enlightenment references and Thomas Jefferson, who played a key role in the two most prominent revolutions in the history of the Western world, and replaced them with Thomas Aquinas, who lived 500 years before the Enlightenment, and John Calvin, who lived 200 years before the Enlightenment and was a major figure in an entirely different period of history, the Reformation, which preceded the Enlightenment.
Yes, you should, in fact, be mouthing the words "what the fuck" right about now.
And the stupidity continues:
11:21 - Board member Barbara Cargill wants to insert a discussion of the right to bear arms in a standard that focuses on First Amendment rights and the expression of various points of view. This is absurd. If they want students to study the right to bear arms, at least try to find an appropriate place in the standards for it. This is yet another example of politicians destroying the coherence of a curriculum document for no reason other than promoting ideological pet causes. Republican board member Bob Craig of Lubbock is suggesting a better place for such a standard. But the amendment passes anyway. The board's far-right faction is simply impervious to logic.
11:30 - Board member Pat Hardy notes that elsewhere the standards already require students to study each of the freedoms and rights guaranteed by the Bill of Rights. No one seems to care.
11:33 - Bob Craig tries, once again, to talk some sense into these
You mean the war of northern aggression?
Here's an excerpt from: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/11/us/politics/11texas.html?src=me
There have also been efforts among conservatives on the board to tweak the history of the civil rights movement. One amendment states that the movement created “unrealistic expectations of equal outcomes” among minorities. Another proposed change removes any reference to race, sex or religion in talking about how different groups have contributed to the national identity.
The amendments are also intended to emphasize the unalloyed superiority of the “free-enterprise system” over others and the desirability of limited government.
One says publishers should “describe the effects of increasing government regulation and taxation on economic development and business planning.”
Throughout the standards, the conservatives have pushed to drop references to American “imperialism,” preferring to call it expansionism. “Country and western music” has been added to the list of cultural movements to be studied.
References to Ralph Nader and Ross Perot are proposed to be removed, while Stonewall Jackson, the Confederate general, is to be listed as a role model for effective leadership, and the ideas in Jefferson Davis’s inaugural address are to be laid side by side with Abraham Lincoln’s speeches.
Early in the hearing on Wednesday, Mr. McLeroy and other conservatives on the board made it clear they would offer still more planks to highlight what they see as the Christian roots of the Constitution and other founding documents.
“To deny the Judeo-Christian values of our founding fathers is just a lie to our kids,” said Ken Mercer, a San Antonio Republican.
It's pretty much common knowledge that Texas and is an educational wasteland: http://www.edgetech-us.com/Map/EduLvls.htm
They're not identical at all, you just don't know that because you've spent all your time going apoplectic here instead of reading the links I posted.
So you don't actually know Ruby or Rails, but you know that my example is less functional. You're kind of all over the place in the rest of your post, and the "ooh scary" remarks don't really help your case (which, as far as I can tell is "I am annoyed that you would compare PHP with Ruby unfavorably")
My bad then, I thought your PHP examples were supposed to be functionally equivalent to my Rails example.
Look I'm sorry if I offended you, I didn't mean to cause so much outrage just by comparing code excerpts directly from the SolarPHP documentation ,with an example adapted from upcoming Rails 3.1 documentation.
You sound like someone with a fair share of experience with informed opinions about the tools you like to use. Well, me too. I think your last remark is dead-on, but I had a different point I was trying to make. I never said "Rails is awesome, everyone should use it all the time!"
I have to say though, your counterpoint is a bit forced. It's not about reducing keystrokes at all costs, it's about providing the programmer with useful abstractions and reducing the need for him to repeat him or herself. Let's be real here and just admit that PHP doesn't make this easy for frameworks.
You also assume a lot about what the Ruby code is doing; this is where my Rails example is from: http://m.onkey.org/2010/1/22/active-record-query-interface
You seem to think I made up that example, when in fact I got it from the SolarPHP documentation: http://solarphp.com/manual/blog-demo.app.index#blog-demo.app.index.action
Actually I pulled the sample straight from the documentation for the project in the OP.
Masterfully observed
If we used what was everywhere everyone would be developing websites in .NET to deploy on their Windows intranet. But it's a lot easier to be sarcastic than have a point other than "lol nobody uses Rails" (as if that were even close to true).
The reason nobody cares about your web framework is that they'd rather type:
def index
@posts = Post.where(:status => 'public').order('created DESC')
end
instead of:
<?php
public function actionIndex()
{
$fetch = array(
'where' => array('blogs.status = ?' => 'public'),
'order' => 'blogs.created DESC',
'page' => 'all',
);
$this->list = $this->_model->blogs->fetchAll($fetch);
}
?>