True, granted, this is justified as something to better the agency. But when I read stories and bits of news that paints NASA as one of the poorest agencies of the land, one finds $23 mil to be quite a chunk of change to pull out to give the kids at a university some spending money so they can develop something that may not turn out as expected.
Yet before and during this, you read stories of projects that NASA had to shut down due to budget cuts, and I think, please correct me if mistaken, NASA Concidering auctioning parts via online auctions to help raise money. Even with just the budget cuts, to me that tells me that $23 Mil is not just some spare cash they had laying around the office. Granted, it's towards developing dependable software that if achived, would reduce the risk factors of future missions and projects (not totally, but at least you have a better chance of not getting a B.S.O.D. when 1/2 way to mars.).
So after that, I see the goal and I applaude it, but I just feel somewhat mislead to believe the agency was in money troubles, really isn't. Kind of like loaning a friend $100 so they can pay rent, only to see them hauling in a 63" Flat Screen T.V. they just bought the next week.
So then the person downloading the FreeBSD 4.5 distro is in the clear then? I mean yea, it's almost 2 gigs and all, but hey it's not porn right?
*pbbbt* Bunk.
Bandwidth is Bandwidth, Binaries are Binaries. You shouldn't bar someone just because of their tastes. That's like telling your mother she's wasting Bandwidth downloading Barry Manalow MP3's, when your in the back room downloading Rush Bootlegs. Both are media, and the objection is based on preference. 50Mb's of mp3's is the same as 50Mb's of porn pictures, as the same as 50Mb's of your family's video files from your vacation last summer. Pipes know no difference, neither should anyone else.
So, as long as I'm sitting here downloading the latest patch to my game of DoD, I'm not about to sit back and swear cause I know someone on my grid is downloading porn or anything else I might find objectionable, cause it's simply not my business what their doing, they are a paying customer, as am I.
Wonder if they concider even some of my phone calls 'objectionable material' given the fact I get cut off or no signal so much.
Besides, why bother filtering out pixelated porn? Why can't service providers (ISP's to Phone Services) just butt out? They always seem spend so much time and effort taking the law into their own hands and do what they think is right for the customer, instead of conceintrating that energy, time and money into something worth while, like expanding their national networks, eliminate 'dead spots' in most areas, and gosh, heaven forbid, maybe if that's all to much to ask for, then stop fight the 'good fight' free up some of the cash used to pay employees to fight evil and lower the cost to the customers. Again, probably too much to ask for.
Ah well, back to filtering out all the spam Cingular doesn't filter out.
But they also mentioned that they can not depend on their supervisor. That presents the problem with a new Spin. If the Supervisor is unwilling to even back their own men up on this, any type of policy or action, even in the best interest of the systems, will be moot.
It also gives play to politics. Say one of the Math Teachers is hording mp3's on a network drive, said operator discovers this, reports it, but said teacher is best buds with said supervisor. You can either cuss and let it go, or do something about it and get let go.
As weak as this may seem, but this guy has found himself in the middle of a mess, and he is already getting the hints that those who one would require their cooperation and trust, can not afterall be trusted or cooperated with, their best bet is to hit the classifieds quick before they get burned by someones' ego.
A Bit pesimistic, but hey, one can never cover their own arse too much now a days.
"It would hurt the self made programmer, but I would certainly rather see that type of accreditation than what we have today: MCSE, MCSA, etc..."
Deffinately would hurt. Look at the current tech service field. It used to frustrate me that 'PaperTechs' would get jobs easier (albeit, probably not super fast), and higher pay just because they had a piece of paper stating 'Yes, they know this.' yet after only a couple of months, what they were taught in 6 weeks is lost down the drains cause they weren't able to retain what they were shown in quick fashion. That or by corrupt means which stating here might deffinately put this reply in the offtopic catagory.
But to put thought to action by way as to certify programmers might seem valid and just, will more than likely hit the same pot holes as the Hardware Side keeps running into.
Odd. Granted I don't agree with the author of this post, but I do find it strange that it was marked as a 'troll'. Opinion vs Opinion I suppose, but, that's kind of nippin' at the ankles of free speech when you insult someone for having an opinion.
Then again, this sort of thing happens all the time, in just about every type of forum. (shrug) Flame on I guess.
Oath or not, there is always going to be someone willing to do something, specially when money is involved. And given the current so called 'Slump' in the industry, there will be a lot more programmers willing to 'go there' and write code to their employer's spec's, even if it is to obtain information, legally or not, from an unsuspecting user.
But even without a low in employment numbers, there is no sort of test of virtues to be a coder.
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True, granted, this is justified as something to better the agency. But when I read stories and bits of news that paints NASA as one of the poorest agencies of the land, one finds $23 mil to be quite a chunk of change to pull out to give the kids at a university some spending money so they can develop something that may not turn out as expected.
Yet before and during this, you read stories of projects that NASA had to shut down due to budget cuts, and I think, please correct me if mistaken, NASA Concidering auctioning parts via online auctions to help raise money. Even with just the budget cuts, to me that tells me that $23 Mil is not just some spare cash they had laying around the office. Granted, it's towards developing dependable software that if achived, would reduce the risk factors of future missions and projects (not totally, but at least you have a better chance of not getting a B.S.O.D. when 1/2 way to mars.).
So after that, I see the goal and I applaude it, but I just feel somewhat mislead to believe the agency was in money troubles, really isn't. Kind of like loaning a friend $100 so they can pay rent, only to see them hauling in a 63" Flat Screen T.V. they just bought the next week.
Here they are telling us they need money, yet the have $23 million to give away?
So then the person downloading the FreeBSD 4.5 distro is in the clear then? I mean yea, it's almost 2 gigs and all, but hey it's not porn right?
*pbbbt* Bunk.
Bandwidth is Bandwidth, Binaries are Binaries. You shouldn't bar someone just because of their tastes. That's like telling your mother she's wasting Bandwidth downloading Barry Manalow MP3's, when your in the back room downloading Rush Bootlegs. Both are media, and the objection is based on preference. 50Mb's of mp3's is the same as 50Mb's of porn pictures, as the same as 50Mb's of your family's video files from your vacation last summer. Pipes know no difference, neither should anyone else.
So, as long as I'm sitting here downloading the latest patch to my game of DoD, I'm not about to sit back and swear cause I know someone on my grid is downloading porn or anything else I might find objectionable, cause it's simply not my business what their doing, they are a paying customer, as am I.
Wonder if they concider even some of my phone calls 'objectionable material' given the fact I get cut off or no signal so much.
Besides, why bother filtering out pixelated porn? Why can't service providers (ISP's to Phone Services) just butt out? They always seem spend so much time and effort taking the law into their own hands and do what they think is right for the customer, instead of conceintrating that energy, time and money into something worth while, like expanding their national networks, eliminate 'dead spots' in most areas, and gosh, heaven forbid, maybe if that's all to much to ask for, then stop fight the 'good fight' free up some of the cash used to pay employees to fight evil and lower the cost to the customers. Again, probably too much to ask for.
Ah well, back to filtering out all the spam Cingular doesn't filter out.
I wonder if the run time of this documentary is 42 minutes.
And their alternative could be .std
But on the topic side of this, does anyone else agree this is just another form of domain squating?
But they also mentioned that they can not depend on their supervisor. That presents the problem with a new Spin. If the Supervisor is unwilling to even back their own men up on this, any type of policy or action, even in the best interest of the systems, will be moot.
It also gives play to politics. Say one of the Math Teachers is hording mp3's on a network drive, said operator discovers this, reports it, but said teacher is best buds with said supervisor. You can either cuss and let it go, or do something about it and get let go.
As weak as this may seem, but this guy has found himself in the middle of a mess, and he is already getting the hints that those who one would require their cooperation and trust, can not afterall be trusted or cooperated with, their best bet is to hit the classifieds quick before they get burned by someones' ego.
A Bit pesimistic, but hey, one can never cover their own arse too much now a days.
You mean I can use this connection to search for other things besides nude photos of britney spears?
Can see it now, Jedi Knight III. Instead of just being a fun, yet challenging game, it will also sense when you are giving in to the Dark Side.
"It would hurt the self made programmer, but I would certainly rather see that type of accreditation than what we have today: MCSE, MCSA, etc..."
Deffinately would hurt. Look at the current tech service field. It used to frustrate me that 'PaperTechs' would get jobs easier (albeit, probably not super fast), and higher pay just because they had a piece of paper stating 'Yes, they know this.' yet after only a couple of months, what they were taught in 6 weeks is lost down the drains cause they weren't able to retain what they were shown in quick fashion. That or by corrupt means which stating here might deffinately put this reply in the offtopic catagory.
But to put thought to action by way as to certify programmers might seem valid and just, will more than likely hit the same pot holes as the Hardware Side keeps running into.
Odd. Granted I don't agree with the author of this post, but I do find it strange that it was marked as a 'troll'. Opinion vs Opinion I suppose, but, that's kind of nippin' at the ankles of free speech when you insult someone for having an opinion.
Then again, this sort of thing happens all the time, in just about every type of forum. (shrug) Flame on I guess.
Oath or not, there is always going to be someone willing to do something, specially when money is involved. And given the current so called 'Slump' in the industry, there will be a lot more programmers willing to 'go there' and write code to their employer's spec's, even if it is to obtain information, legally or not, from an unsuspecting user.
But even without a low in employment numbers, there is no sort of test of virtues to be a coder.