I'd like to ask Mandrake users: does it hurt to hit the street? And does the street hit back?
Jokes aside, but if all those release bumps still hurt you by pushing for re-installation, please consider the distro with which you will be always up to date without any hitting the street.
I havn't been answering too, until my wife called me from the street-phone and I haven't pick it up. Oh man, now I am answering ALL calls - who knows if it's from my wife again!
P.S. it could be good if on the street-phone I could type somehow my ID (nick?) that would be recognized by the Caller ID system.
It's a good point. The main difference between bells and cell-providers is that bells are not competing within a given area, while I have to choose between two or three (or even more) cell-providers. So, once at least one cell-provider will give me any kind of anti-spam protection - the rest of them will have to do the same or they will begin losing customers.
From what I see in my experience, the hardware is just 1-10% of TCO per unit in a regular IT environment, depends if is it a workstation or a server. I am not sure how much is it in clusters.
it's hard to find a good x86 box with Linux preloaded
Sure you even havn't tried to find preloaded Linux boxes. There are many Linux shops in every country and every state, if not every city and town. They will be glad to custom build the tux box for you. Well, I can do it for you, wanna call and ask me for that?
I wonder when there will time when Richard Stallman will fly to England with a full package of proposals to relax GPL, b/c London decided that GPL is too restrictive for their purposes.
You forgot MS Outlook, which is a part of MS Office. So, what would you suggest instead of Outlook?
OpenOffice can substitute Word+Excel+Powerpoint. But there is no groupware application in OpenOffice.
Mozilla Browser typically substitutes IE. Mozilla Mail can get all email and some contact management functions from Outlook. But Mozilla Calendar is far from being capable to substitute Outlooks's Tasks and Meetings, first of all as Mozilla Calendar is a personal not-networked application. Besides, no any equivalent of Public Folders in Mozilla.
I understand that it is not Mozilla's or OpenOffice's fault - it's all about lazy calendar server programmers. Just kidding. Seriously - there is no any well working open-source calendar server around yet. I guess without calendaring server there will be a lack of calendar clients - exactly what we observe now.
Of course the lack of calendaring clients from open-source has been already compensated by available web-based calendaring applications. But, I am sorry, that doesn't work, unless it's integrated with webmail, and as for today, there is no any opensource suit combined BOTH well-implemented: mail and calendar.
All said above is about open-source on win32. But Linux can add a little to it: Evolution doesn't work with any open source calendaring server - again, as there is no such.
And his limit is what? one relicensing per 10 years?
Can he try to do it (to relicense it) a bit more often?
Mozilla already has drawing classes that are more complex than libart anyways.
So, you are saying: Libart is not good for Mozilla's SVG anyway, and as for today there is no other reliable SVG library. So, now what? No SVG in Mozilla whatsover?
Leave XHTML alone. It's been designed as a tradeoff to complain with the past. We are talking about future here. Future web apps will be rendered from SVG and XForms on the client side (or XUL, or XWT), but not from XHTML.
Besides, SVG has nothing to do with XHTML.
Last time I checked XML a derivative of SGML, wich is hierarchical based. Though XML based data loads well into an object it is not object-oriented in and of itself.
It's true about hierachy, it's true about SGML, it's not true anymore about OOP: today any non-primitive XML application use it with XML-Schema, which is object oriented.
ECMAScript which is pretty much the unofficial "language of XML"
Wow! That's kind of new worth to be published on the frontpage of/. ! Where did you get that fact? Any link to share with us?
Last time I've checked XML had nothing in common with HTML aside of the braket shape.
For object-oriented nature of XML with strong namespacing I would definitely prefer to use a real language with strong typing rather than that mockup, which was Javascript.
how big is libart? In other words, how long will it take to re-write it under a different license?
Another question: if Mozilla faces such a license problem, why KDE won't? And if KSVG will be based on another SVG library, why cannot Mozilla use that alternative SVG library?
P.S. At some point GNOME/GTK has been burn just beacuse license issues of KDE/QT. I guess not it may (and actually should!) happen with libart/SVG.
A movable device, especially a framed construction such as a room divider or a decorative panel, designed to divide, conceal, or protect.
One that serves to protect, conceal, or divide: Security guards formed a screen around the President. A screen of evergreens afforded privacy from our neighbors.
A coarse sieve used for sifting out fine particles, as of sand, gravel, or coal.
A system for preliminary appraisal and selection of personnel as to their suitability for particular jobs.
A window or door insertion of framed wire or plastic mesh used to keep out insects and permit air flow.
The white or silver surface on which a picture is projected for viewing.
The movie industry: a star of stage and screen. Also called silver screen.
Electronics. The phosphorescent surface on which an image is displayed, as on a television, computer monitor, or radar receiver.
Computer Science. The information or image displayed at a given time on such a computer monitor: printing a hard copy of the screen.
Electronics. The electrode placed between the anode and the control grid in a tetrode valve. Also called screen grid.
Printing. A glass plate marked off with crossing lines, placed before the lens of a camera when photographing for halftone reproduction.
A body of troops or ships sent in advance of or surrounding a larger body to protect or warn of attack.
Sports. A block, set with the body, that impedes the vision or movement of an opponent.
Football. A screen pass.
So, what was banned? a star of stage and screen (Also called silver screen)?
you are right. We even have started to move one by one servers to Gentoo. Very helpful to keep a reasonable balance between unified platform on one side, and different packages (at least in differen versions) on the other side.
... Did I forget anything? TCP vs UDP? Never mind that one.
Free software is culture that will guarantee that there will be no monoculture. There will be always a choice. And pay attention: you as a user will make a choice (not like the choice will be done for you somewhere in Redmond).
US goverment already thinks of itself as a global goverment:
it ignores International Crime Court thinking that US court is enough;
it invades other countries ignoring what other world leaders are saying;
it blocks whenever possible UN work and all UN Security Council resolutions;
it makes a pressure on Australian and Asian goverments when they decide to abandon Microsoft;
it ignores global environmental efforts (Kyoto) saying that US will come with their own solution on their own;
OK. Fine. If it's global then let it be global. Including protecting globally the human AND political rights. And of course sharing globally the right to vote for US president (Invade Iraq? Let them come to US elections then!). Basically, distributing the US Constitution globally as well (it's not perfect, but better than 99% of local laws outside of US anyway).
Om your support I'd like to give one more example:
Since USSR has collapsed in 1991, the new Russiangovt team led by Eltsin afraid big social tensions and they have been keeping the former communist's practice to support agrecultural inustry. Over years govt experts tried to reduce the support in order to bring more competition to tha industry and within the decade the support was really reduced.
That brought more competiotin. Also it brought more investors to those sectors, investors who bought many former soviet agrecultural companies. Also it improved the competition and investment in the sectors consuming the industry product, processing it, packaging and bringin it to the end market of food stores.
I remember 12 years ago the civilization in a technological sense has been finished once you are driving out of any industrial city: roads, telephony - everything was almost the same as a century ago. The technology that industry used was on the same level. Now it's not really different then in big cities.
This is the perfect illustration that the goverment's protectionalism doesn't work. Sure the goverment should still regulate the envirnomental and and human safity. And of course nothing wrong when the goverment plays in the investment market by the same rules as private investors: buying some companies in order to safe them, restructure them and saling back to the publick market.
Sound (usually) folowes to your display. Perhaps instead of re-inventing the weel the sound channel has to be somehow embedded to X11. Of course kernel has nothing to do with it, apart it should provide the local sound interface for XFree server (once it will implement sound too) and/or other local programs.
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I'd like to ask Mandrake users: does it hurt to hit the street? And does the street hit back?
Jokes aside, but if all those release bumps still hurt you by pushing for re-installation, please consider the distro with which you will be always up to date without any hitting the street.
P.S. it could be good if on the street-phone I could type somehow my ID (nick?) that would be recognized by the Caller ID system.
It's a good point. The main difference between bells and cell-providers is that bells are not competing within a given area, while I have to choose between two or three (or even more) cell-providers. So, once at least one cell-provider will give me any kind of anti-spam protection - the rest of them will have to do the same or they will begin losing customers.
From what I see in my experience, the hardware is just 1-10% of TCO per unit in a regular IT environment, depends if is it a workstation or a server. I am not sure how much is it in clusters.
I wonder how do you consider various PPC hardware then? In terms of price per performance specifically in a cluster environment?
check OIDs in SNMP, looks precisely as a decimal-position addressing system.
Well, let's see if IBM will be a good boy in this game.
Sure you even havn't tried to find preloaded Linux boxes. There are many Linux shops in every country and every state, if not every city and town. They will be glad to custom build the tux box for you. Well, I can do it for you, wanna call and ask me for that?
And what exactly have you solved by taking "Unpatched" down? The sellability of you company to Microsft perhaps? Sure.
I wonder when there will time when Richard Stallman will fly to England with a full package of proposals to relax GPL, b/c London decided that GPL is too restrictive for their purposes.
OpenOffice can substitute Word+Excel+Powerpoint. But there is no groupware application in OpenOffice.
Mozilla Browser typically substitutes IE. Mozilla Mail can get all email and some contact management functions from Outlook. But Mozilla Calendar is far from being capable to substitute Outlooks's Tasks and Meetings, first of all as Mozilla Calendar is a personal not-networked application. Besides, no any equivalent of Public Folders in Mozilla.
I understand that it is not Mozilla's or OpenOffice's fault - it's all about lazy calendar server programmers. Just kidding. Seriously - there is no any well working open-source calendar server around yet. I guess without calendaring server there will be a lack of calendar clients - exactly what we observe now.
Of course the lack of calendaring clients from open-source has been already compensated by available web-based calendaring applications. But, I am sorry, that doesn't work, unless it's integrated with webmail, and as for today, there is no any opensource suit combined BOTH well-implemented: mail and calendar.
All said above is about open-source on win32. But Linux can add a little to it: Evolution doesn't work with any open source calendaring server - again, as there is no such.
And his limit is what? one relicensing per 10 years?
Can he try to do it (to relicense it) a bit more often?
Mozilla already has drawing classes that are more complex than libart anyways.
So, you are saying: Libart is not good for Mozilla's SVG anyway, and as for today there is no other reliable SVG library. So, now what? No SVG in Mozilla whatsover?
Besides, SVG has nothing to do with XHTML.
Last time I checked XML a derivative of SGML, wich is hierarchical based. Though XML based data loads well into an object it is not object-oriented in and of itself.
It's true about hierachy, it's true about SGML, it's not true anymore about OOP: today any non-primitive XML application use it with XML-Schema, which is object oriented.
I guess that option never worked with the libart's author. To bad for him to have so closed mind.
Wow! That's kind of new worth to be published on the frontpage of /. ! Where did you get that fact? Any link to share with us?
Last time I've checked XML had nothing in common with HTML aside of the braket shape.
For object-oriented nature of XML with strong namespacing I would definitely prefer to use a real language with strong typing rather than that mockup, which was Javascript.
Another question: if Mozilla faces such a license problem, why KDE won't? And if KSVG will be based on another SVG library, why cannot Mozilla use that alternative SVG library?
P.S. At some point GNOME/GTK has been burn just beacuse license issues of KDE/QT. I guess not it may (and actually should!) happen with libart/SVG.
most of my computers have no cases at all. Some even have no chassis. But I don't think they look ugly. Ultimately, no case is the best case :)
you are right. We even have started to move one by one servers to Gentoo. Very helpful to keep a reasonable balance between unified platform on one side, and different packages (at least in differen versions) on the other side.
There is no such thing. You will always consider:
Free software is culture that will guarantee that there will be no monoculture. There will be always a choice. And pay attention: you as a user will make a choice (not like the choice will be done for you somewhere in Redmond).
- it ignores International Crime Court thinking that US court is enough;
- it invades other countries ignoring what other world leaders are saying;
- it blocks whenever possible UN work and all UN Security Council resolutions;
- it makes a pressure on Australian and Asian goverments when they decide to abandon Microsoft;
- it ignores global environmental efforts (Kyoto) saying that US will come with their own solution on their own;
OK. Fine. If it's global then let it be global. Including protecting globally the human AND political rights. And of course sharing globally the right to vote for US president (Invade Iraq? Let them come to US elections then!). Basically, distributing the US Constitution globally as well (it's not perfect, but better than 99% of local laws outside of US anyway).Since USSR has collapsed in 1991, the new Russiangovt team led by Eltsin afraid big social tensions and they have been keeping the former communist's practice to support agrecultural inustry. Over years govt experts tried to reduce the support in order to bring more competition to tha industry and within the decade the support was really reduced.
That brought more competiotin. Also it brought more investors to those sectors, investors who bought many former soviet agrecultural companies. Also it improved the competition and investment in the sectors consuming the industry product, processing it, packaging and bringin it to the end market of food stores.
I remember 12 years ago the civilization in a technological sense has been finished once you are driving out of any industrial city: roads, telephony - everything was almost the same as a century ago. The technology that industry used was on the same level. Now it's not really different then in big cities.
This is the perfect illustration that the goverment's protectionalism doesn't work. Sure the goverment should still regulate the envirnomental and and human safity. And of course nothing wrong when the goverment plays in the investment market by the same rules as private investors: buying some companies in order to safe them, restructure them and saling back to the publick market.
Windows? last time it was called DOS when everything worked as one big disorganized heap.
Sound (usually) folowes to your display. Perhaps instead of re-inventing the weel the sound channel has to be somehow embedded to X11. Of course kernel has nothing to do with it, apart it should provide the local sound interface for XFree server (once it will implement sound too) and/or other local programs.
not so fast - dev inodes do not work cross NFS.