...Microsoft [are into] the Operating System, Office, games and internet markets (and just about everything else)
Glad you put 'just about everything else', 'cause that includes hardware.
In an apparently increasing open source software world, I'd get into hardware, too, and as I've said before, I think open source software companies should get into hardware, if only just in case M$ eventually corners the hardware market.
Ok so some of us had a good chuckle and others a baffle... But big fucken deal:
Microsoft's a hardware company too, anyway.
Although it's possible, and Red Hat is indeed into hardware, I have yet to read about an open source company like Red Hat getting into that like the Microsoft is with its X-box, tablets and possibly other stuff. I think I recall reading about MS with R&D offices in other countries.
Personally, I'd love the opportunity to buy something like a Red Hat laptop with GNU software preinstalled.
There seems to have been the question as to the validity and/or enforceability of software licenses in general...
So, if the GPL gets validated/legitimized in this way, presumably, this sets a precedent for validating/legitimizing any other software license... an apparent cancelling-out kind of effect.
Knowing what I like to think I know about the GNU GPL, I suspect that if the GPL was considered invalid, then, so would any other software license- including, for example, any from MS.
Therefore, it might appear to be in many more peoples' and entities' interests that the GPL is ruled valid.
...M$ seems to be getting more and more into Hardware. (Might Windows and the various other M$ Software, be merely "smokescreens" of a sort for the real action at Redmond and other M$-owned locales?)
I might suggest open source software-based companies consider creating hardware if they already aren't- like M$- and that some pro-OSS advocates take their apparent focus off M$ as an apparent Software Company.
"If I'm an artist, are you going to tell me you have the right to rip me off because you hate paying for things?"
Natural parasitism exists, bonch. Are tapeworms wrong?;)
More seriously, if you're an artiste and attempting to sell your works in a world where the internet exists, well, you know, things'll happen.
Personally, I'd just love to oversee some of the RIAA execs trying their hand for a few month's at Labour Ready... or subsurface mining or janitorial services, etc..:)
It is my contention that art- ie. music- done with the intent to profit is less art. And there is indeed some music offered for free (perhaps composed without an intent to profit), available that is often as good or better than much of what's 'signed'.
That said, in these discussions about the RIAA, I'd like to see more mention/discussion of the kind of music and sites my subject heading refers to, such as perhaps metempsychosis
I'd also like to see any taxes that may be on my CD/DVDs/equipment to help to support, without my consent, 'The Music Industry' promptly removed, lest I infer that these taxes insinuate something about what the industry wants me to do with its "music". Not that I would really want to.
"Beer wants to be free."
-- favorite quote from a user hereon apparently
In countries that can less afford to purchase some, say foreign, goods, the prices of those goods might be reduced there. The term for that- or one of its manifestations- might be called dumping.
I wonder how fair that really is, and how it affects such things as "pirating", "copyright infringement", etc.?
...Gives 'free trade' another perspective anyway.
"The problem with super-heroes is that they come with super villains."
I've suspected for a long while that, given pirating and open source, etc., it would make a lot of sense for software companies to diversify, such as getting into hardware and/or other markets and/or of course in this case, taking a bigger slice from their hardware pie.
"...We've always been told that pirate games push prices up."
Might be corporate/capitalist propaganda.
And then there's (softare) extortion, gouging and dumping.
BTW, I'm hoping for a price slash at the box office and/or a greater diversity of films from a greater diversity of actors, directors, producers (like you!), countries, etc. once film pirating gains some steam...
But then Hollywood makes me cry with those short anti-pirate pre-film tear-jerkers.:.-(..
"The problem with super-heroes is that they come with super-villains."
I think some here sort of alluded to this, but ask them as a group, or even individually in private, what they would like (while being up front with what/when etc., you can offer of course), and even how or when they'd prefer it- like a customized thing- ie. in the summer, Chinese/Jewish New year, Halloween, July 4rth., for their birthday, as cash, a gift, a stock option, dental plan, a trip, a longer/earlier vacation, more paid sick days, etc..
I think that the very act of asking them these kinds of things might, in themselves, feel like a bonus, too, and keep you in a good light... Probably one of the better investments you can make.
Then the future's either already here or coming fast: I spend a fair bit of time on one of Sourceforge's forums, and if memory serves and we're talking about the same program, BT has been the top daily download for just about every day I've looked for months. And Sourceforge has alot of projects.
Open Source licenses, unlike closed source, encourage copying, modification, sharing and redistribution. That's the whole point.
Pirating "closed source" music seems to just cause problems for everyone and might even help the RIAA et al.'s causes.
Open Source music seems to ignore or sidestep the RIAA completely in favour of free and/or freely copyable, distributable and modifyable music. Ultimately, perhaps like OS software, that might be better for the quality of music and for everyone involved
I have downloaded free music that is offered free by artists often uninterested in composing for profit, and I now listen almost exclusively to free and/or libre music.
I like that mentality or context- of creating and creation and sharing for its own sake- for the pure joy of it without the problems- including psychological- that money can bring.
In some ways doing away with the profit-motive seems to immediately make the music better to me, and that's how I want to listen to it, including, ultimately, how I want to offer my own compositions.
I suppose that could be Open Source (OS) or GPL Music or be placed under one of those licenses, and I also suppose that the RIAA companies' music and the music of artists that compose for profit will be competing with those like me who offer it Libre and/or for Free. Kind of like Windows vis-a-vis Linux I guess.
I also imagine that OS or GPL'd music would conflict with networks charging for their download, or, for that matter, with the apparent Canadian music CD tax.
In any case, I refuse in principle to give a cent to someone's bottom line without getting anything I consider worthwhile for it in return.
FWIW, we're bigger than the RIAA, the record companies and the crappy commercial music composing artists combined.
"...nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight...
Got to kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight..."
--Bruce Cockburn
Apparently, in Canada, recordable media like CD's have a tax on them, which may be a response to the mp3 p2p downloading thing. If that's the case, it seems possible that digital cameras and those cellphones in question might get a similar tax, some of which would go back to the publishers, writers, etc.
Of course, all it takes is one person to copy a publication, and send it off over the net like an mp3 or movie.
Then again, people write open software for free.
Our society's changing....Anyone care to write a book to freely share with us?
Reading this article and its respective replies and discussions made me think of watching some films or news stories about some individual(s), group(s) or system(s) versus- or in relation to- (an)other individual(s), group(s) or system(s), where I might question, disapprove of, understand, and/or empathize with, the actions, styles or attitudes of both.
Considering groupthink, deindividuation, dehumanization and a whole slew of other social/interpersonal dynamics- and chaos of course- it's often little surprise that groups & individuals get what they do- both on the internet and in real life.
...but Slashdot's system seems to require the re-inputting of my password after preview of post.
While I'm here, here's s'more from http://www.elysiun.com/news.php?id=14:
Ton:
"Key issue is, will people just pay for Blender becoming free, or are people selfish calculating consumers who want exclusive value for their money?
I would like to hear some remarks on this issue."
"This attitude that your comments seem to suggest... I don't know... perish the thought of selfish, calculating business people...
As you know, there are many ways of contributing, Ton. Your hypothetical selfish, calculating consumers could very well become important Blender contributors.
I refuse to pay a thing, and there are other open source solutions out there that are getting better as we speak."
-----------------
Given that a cent
went indeed, unsent,
My name'll be left unseen
in the credits on the screen.
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Glad you put 'just about everything else', 'cause that includes hardware.
In an apparently increasing open source software world, I'd get into hardware, too, and as I've said before, I think open source software companies should get into hardware, if only just in case M$ eventually corners the hardware market.
I'd have modded this Funny.
Personally, I'd love the opportunity to buy something like a Red Hat laptop with GNU software preinstalled.
Knowing what I like to think I know about the GNU GPL, I suspect that if the GPL was considered invalid, then, so would any other software license- including, for example, any from MS.
Therefore, it might appear to be in many more peoples' and entities' interests that the GPL is ruled valid.
I might suggest open source software-based companies consider creating hardware if they already aren't- like M$- and that some pro-OSS advocates take their apparent focus off M$ as an apparent Software Company.
Natural parasitism exists, bonch. Are tapeworms wrong? ;)
More seriously, if you're an artiste and attempting to sell your works in a world where the internet exists, well, you know, things'll happen.
Personally, I'd just love to oversee some of the RIAA execs trying their hand for a few month's at Labour Ready... or subsurface mining or janitorial services, etc.. :)
That said, in these discussions about the RIAA, I'd like to see more mention/discussion of the kind of music and sites my subject heading refers to, such as perhaps metempsychosis
I'd also like to see any taxes that may be on my CD/DVDs/equipment to help to support, without my consent, 'The Music Industry' promptly removed, lest I infer that these taxes insinuate something about what the industry wants me to do with its "music". Not that I would really want to.
"Beer wants to be free." -- favorite quote from a user hereon apparently
I got a good chuckle from your sig quote. :)
For how much?
In countries that can less afford to purchase some, say foreign, goods, the prices of those goods might be reduced there. The term for that- or one of its manifestations- might be called dumping.
I wonder how fair that really is, and how it affects such things as "pirating", "copyright infringement", etc.?
"The problem with super-heroes is that they come with super villains."
I've suspected for a long while that, given pirating and open source, etc., it would make a lot of sense for software companies to diversify, such as getting into hardware and/or other markets and/or of course in this case, taking a bigger slice from their hardware pie.
Might be corporate/capitalist propaganda. :.-(..
And then there's (softare) extortion, gouging and dumping.
BTW, I'm hoping for a price slash at the box office and/or a greater diversity of films from a greater diversity of actors, directors, producers (like you!), countries, etc. once film pirating gains some steam...
But then Hollywood makes me cry with those short anti-pirate pre-film tear-jerkers.
"The problem with super-heroes is that they come with super-villains."
I think some here sort of alluded to this, but ask them as a group, or even individually in private, what they would like (while being up front with what/when etc., you can offer of course), and even how or when they'd prefer it- like a customized thing- ie. in the summer, Chinese/Jewish New year, Halloween, July 4rth., for their birthday, as cash, a gift, a stock option, dental plan, a trip, a longer/earlier vacation, more paid sick days, etc..
I think that the very act of asking them these kinds of things might, in themselves, feel like a bonus, too, and keep you in a good light...
Probably one of the better investments you can make.
Then the future's either already here or coming fast:
I spend a fair bit of time on one of Sourceforge's forums, and if memory serves and we're talking about the same program, BT has been the top daily download for just about every day I've looked for months. And Sourceforge has alot of projects.
Open Source licenses, unlike closed source, encourage copying, modification, sharing and redistribution. That's the whole point.
Pirating "closed source" music seems to just cause problems for everyone and might even help the RIAA et al.'s causes.
Open Source music seems to ignore or sidestep the RIAA completely in favour of free and/or freely copyable, distributable and modifyable music. Ultimately, perhaps like OS software, that might be better for the quality of music and for everyone involved
I have downloaded free music that is offered free by artists often uninterested in composing for profit, and I now listen almost exclusively to free and/or libre music. I like that mentality or context- of creating and creation and sharing for its own sake- for the pure joy of it without the problems- including psychological- that money can bring. In some ways doing away with the profit-motive seems to immediately make the music better to me, and that's how I want to listen to it, including, ultimately, how I want to offer my own compositions. I suppose that could be Open Source (OS) or GPL Music or be placed under one of those licenses, and I also suppose that the RIAA companies' music and the music of artists that compose for profit will be competing with those like me who offer it Libre and/or for Free. Kind of like Windows vis-a-vis Linux I guess. I also imagine that OS or GPL'd music would conflict with networks charging for their download, or, for that matter, with the apparent Canadian music CD tax. In any case, I refuse in principle to give a cent to someone's bottom line without getting anything I consider worthwhile for it in return. FWIW, we're bigger than the RIAA, the record companies and the crappy commercial music composing artists combined. "...nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight... Got to kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight..." --Bruce Cockburn
Apparently, in Canada, recordable media like CD's have a tax on them, which may be a response to the mp3 p2p downloading thing. If that's the case, it seems possible that digital cameras and those cellphones in question might get a similar tax, some of which would go back to the publishers, writers, etc. Of course, all it takes is one person to copy a publication, and send it off over the net like an mp3 or movie. Then again, people write open software for free. Our society's changing. ...Anyone care to write a book to freely share with us?
Reading this article and its respective replies and discussions made me think of watching some films or news stories about some individual(s), group(s) or system(s) versus- or in relation to- (an)other individual(s), group(s) or system(s), where I might question, disapprove of, understand, and/or empathize with, the actions, styles or attitudes of both. Considering groupthink, deindividuation, dehumanization and a whole slew of other social/interpersonal dynamics- and chaos of course- it's often little surprise that groups & individuals get what they do- both on the internet and in real life.
Maybe it's because the renderer needs work.
...but Slashdot's system seems to require the re-inputting of my password after preview of post.
While I'm here, here's s'more from http://www.elysiun.com/news.php?id=14:
Ton:
"Key issue is, will people just pay for Blender becoming free, or are people selfish calculating consumers who want exclusive value for their money?
I would like to hear some remarks on this issue."
"This attitude that your comments seem to suggest... I don't know... perish the thought of selfish, calculating business people...
As you know, there are many ways of contributing, Ton. Your hypothetical selfish, calculating consumers could very well become important Blender contributors.
I refuse to pay a thing, and there are other open source solutions out there that are getting better as we speak."
----------------- Given that a cent went indeed, unsent, My name'll be left unseen in the credits on the screen.