I'm sorry, but Lotus Notes is DEFINATELY not an Exchange killer. Having been recently moved over to Notes from Exchange, I'd definately (as well as the remainder of my co-workers) take Exchange back any day of the week. Notes has a steamy pile of pooh for a database structure, everything is server based w/o the option of retreiving mail to your local client, it botches mail headers, amongst other flaws. I'm sure there are a TON of other end-users that can empathise with me.
I'll agree with you on that.. however, it would still be nice to see the way they handled certain tasks/problems and incorporate those ideas into Open BeOS's source..
Be, to me, brought a Mac-like interface to the PC with *nix capabilities.. (I guess you could think of it as os X on pc?) The only real pitfall was the lack-o-software and poor hardware support.. but.. the OS was almost worth building a box with supported hardware for it.. (well.. at least it was for me.. >=) )
I'm currently dual-booting between WinXP and Slackware on my desktop at home.. My only issue with Linux as a desktop os is the lack of native commercial (game) software out there. Loki games has pushed to get more stuff over to Linux, but.. they went out of business because of the lack of profit from porting these games over. What we need to see is more of a push from the major software developers out there, (Just like ID software who ported the quake series over) so that we can get more of the windows desktop users over.
I've installed RH8 on my mom's computer (she's completely dunce with computers), and the interface has been so easy for her to use that she just kinda picked up everything on her own. (Not only that, but I can support her via ssh'ing into her machine) Is it hard to use? I guess if you're used to other OS's it's a little counter-intuitive, or if you are wanting to get into the advanced (or command line) portion of linux it's a little bit more difficult, but for the most part the robustness of window managers for X has made linux into a pretty good desktop OS for newbies.
As far as issues with support goes.. (on irc..etc..) do research before you ask questions. A lot of people who are spatting out answers to you lose patience when people demand an answer out of them. It's not their job to support you, so show gratitude. Google things up and learn how to search for things on groups.google.com A ton of issues people run into have been answered time and time again on email.
If I remember correctly, Dell used to ship out machines with RedHat pre-installed as a corporate-type workstation solution.. They kinda did poor on sales for these units, though, and cancelled the option to have RH pre-installed/supported.
Heh.. I see your point.. but.. I feel that people who are sending out legitimate mail should have some kind of pgp signature / public key out there.. I don't have to have your key to accept it through my filters, I just have to see that you have a key, and a place to receive your key (usually an x-pgp type mail header)...
The only problem with this is... the servers who maintain the lists of trusted servers could start charging for a "email registration" type service. (Kinda like TLD's and the name registrar's out there)... Then eventually you'd start loosing the trust and we'd be back into the same steamy pile of pooh we're in now..
Pss... I'll let you in on a little secret... It's called caffeine. Brew some coffee, read some slashdot, repeat until you are well awake/alert. THEN write your next article.. >=)
I'm not too familiar with CGI-Shell.. so.. take what I say lightly...
Potential security problems:
-Transmission of your user/pass in clear text (unless the script is ran via HTTPS)
-Bad admins (there are a lot out there) run http as root.. which means root runs the cgi script. Unless the admin digs through the script to make sure it's free of exploits.. (which very few of the admins who run http as root do) it could do something like.. execute the shell as root or execute a priviledged shell (/sbin/sh on sun)
-Even if http is running as it's own user, unless it's started in a chrooted jail, the script will have access to modify stuff the http user owns.. this means the http binaries, logs, etc..
I'm sure there are more things that can be exploited... I'm by far not a security expert.. I do know that reguardless of what kinda CGI script you put in place, it's always opening that much more of your box to a possible exploit.
Hmm.. I wonder how many people out there run their web servers as root, blindly install cgi scripts that people ask them to install, and will let one slip by that has their default shell has/sbin/sh (on a sun box).. >=)
I love when new technology (such as the GeForceFX) is released... It means older stuff (like the ATI 9700) will be cheap enough to actually buy.. =)
I can live with 140-whatever fps... I get maybe 45 fps on my gpu now.. =)
Perhaps they're re-opening the network solutions name to try to shake the "we send out as much spam as AOHell, and sell your user information to marketing companies)" image they have goin' for themselves right now...
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I'm sorry, but Lotus Notes is DEFINATELY not an Exchange killer. Having been recently moved over to Notes from Exchange, I'd definately (as well as the remainder of my co-workers) take Exchange back any day of the week. Notes has a steamy pile of pooh for a database structure, everything is server based w/o the option of retreiving mail to your local client, it botches mail headers, amongst other flaws. I'm sure there are a TON of other end-users that can empathise with me.
An "Outlook/Exchange killer"
Wouldn't that be a traditional email program like mutt, elm, or pine? >=)
I'll agree with you on that.. however, it would still be nice to see the way they handled certain tasks/problems and incorporate those ideas into Open BeOS's source..
Heh.. he also mentioned that he doesn't know what a .cue and .bin file was.. *rolleyes* >=)
Be, to me, brought a Mac-like interface to the PC with *nix capabilities.. (I guess you could think of it as os X on pc?) The only real pitfall was the lack-o-software and poor hardware support.. but.. the OS was almost worth building a box with supported hardware for it.. (well.. at least it was for me.. >=) )
*sigh* If only somebody at Palm "accidently" released the source.. >=)
I'm currently dual-booting between WinXP and Slackware on my desktop at home.. My only issue with Linux as a desktop os is the lack of native commercial (game) software out there. Loki games has pushed to get more stuff over to Linux, but.. they went out of business because of the lack of profit from porting these games over. What we need to see is more of a push from the major software developers out there, (Just like ID software who ported the quake series over) so that we can get more of the windows desktop users over.
I've installed RH8 on my mom's computer (she's completely dunce with computers), and the interface has been so easy for her to use that she just kinda picked up everything on her own. (Not only that, but I can support her via ssh'ing into her machine) Is it hard to use? I guess if you're used to other OS's it's a little counter-intuitive, or if you are wanting to get into the advanced (or command line) portion of linux it's a little bit more difficult, but for the most part the robustness of window managers for X has made linux into a pretty good desktop OS for newbies.
As far as issues with support goes.. (on irc..etc..) do research before you ask questions. A lot of people who are spatting out answers to you lose patience when people demand an answer out of them. It's not their job to support you, so show gratitude. Google things up and learn how to search for things on groups.google.com A ton of issues people run into have been answered time and time again on email.
Newho.. that's just my $1.289
If I remember correctly, Dell used to ship out machines with RedHat pre-installed as a corporate-type workstation solution.. They kinda did poor on sales for these units, though, and cancelled the option to have RH pre-installed/supported.
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Heh.. I see your point.. but.. I feel that people who are sending out legitimate mail should have some kind of pgp signature / public key out there.. I don't have to have your key to accept it through my filters, I just have to see that you have a key, and a place to receive your key (usually an x-pgp type mail header)...
The only problem with this is... the servers who maintain the lists of trusted servers could start charging for a "email registration" type service. (Kinda like TLD's and the name registrar's out there)... Then eventually you'd start loosing the trust and we'd be back into the same steamy pile of pooh we're in now..
Perhaps they should start using pgp encrypted/signed stuff and filter out all non-encrypted/signed emails?
*shrug* That's what I do.. I hate getting email from somebody I don't know...
Pss... I'll let you in on a little secret... It's called caffeine. Brew some coffee, read some slashdot, repeat until you are well awake/alert. THEN write your next article.. >=)
I'm not too familiar with CGI-Shell.. so.. take what I say lightly... Potential security problems: -Transmission of your user/pass in clear text (unless the script is ran via HTTPS) -Bad admins (there are a lot out there) run http as root.. which means root runs the cgi script. Unless the admin digs through the script to make sure it's free of exploits.. (which very few of the admins who run http as root do) it could do something like.. execute the shell as root or execute a priviledged shell (/sbin/sh on sun) -Even if http is running as it's own user, unless it's started in a chrooted jail, the script will have access to modify stuff the http user owns.. this means the http binaries, logs, etc.. I'm sure there are more things that can be exploited... I'm by far not a security expert.. I do know that reguardless of what kinda CGI script you put in place, it's always opening that much more of your box to a possible exploit.
Ah.. this is all true for HTTP.. but you could be running everything through HTTPS (which is all encrypted.. including .htaccess)
Hmm.. I wonder how many people out there run their web servers as root, blindly install cgi scripts that people ask them to install, and will let one slip by that has their default shell has /sbin/sh (on a sun box).. >=)
I love when new technology (such as the GeForceFX) is released... It means older stuff (like the ATI 9700) will be cheap enough to actually buy.. =) I can live with 140-whatever fps... I get maybe 45 fps on my gpu now.. =)
Perhaps they're re-opening the network solutions name to try to shake the "we send out as much spam as AOHell, and sell your user information to marketing companies)" image they have goin' for themselves right now...