I'd like to offer congrats to the parent for being the first in this discussion about love and relationships to make a Star Wars reference.
Everyone knows the true way to get someone to fall in love with you is to hand them a Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster. The effect of which is like having your brains smashed out by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick. So it's pretty much like getting married.
"if you need to prevent them from altering it, that's easy. put it on read-only media (a CD, not just mount -o ro)."
If the student is root they can copy the script to another mounted filesystem and edit it all they want.
For the life of me, I can't understand why anyone would take that post seriously. He was joking! Anyone who could possibly think that a celeron is better than a opteron wouldn't be able to tie their own shoe laces much less post a comment on slashdot. What's happened to everyone's sense of humor?
Please don't correct people on humorous statements. I think that's the "in" thing with the newest generation. If I had to guess I'd say you are a 14-17 year old. I don't remember correcting humorous comments when I was that age. I'd verify that someone was indeed ignorant before correcting them. Kids, verify someone's stupidity before you make an ass of yourself!
I wouldn't call him a scumbag. I also really don't care what his opinion is on sercurity is either. He's capitalizing on his name. In all honesty though, he deserves to be able to do that. He was used to set a precedent. That's all. They were tough on him because they had to be to get their point across. Somehow, that's made him look like a major player in the "hacker" society.
One key point about Kevin's story though...He got caught. People seems to ignore the fact that there were plenty of "hackers" at that time and Kevin is the one that was caught. So how does that make him the best or even close to the best? That's like being in a marathon, walking behind everyone, and since you're the one the media can keep up with they are asking you how you stay so fit and healthy. Makes very little sense.
I "bought" a house in february. It was $100k. If I had put that same amount into google stock I could have bought at least 3 houses of the same amount.
That's why everyone is in debt. They think that money is theirs. Low-interest or high-interest doesn't matter. People are to anxious to get in dept. Too many peopl e live beyond their means. It catches up with them. Credit = Debt plain and simple. If you have credit and you use it you are in debt.
Now don't get me wrong, credit is convenient, and great credit is very convenient. That doesn't change the fact that after you pay the loan back you usually have a net worth less than when you started out with and the person giving you the loan has more money than they started out with. And we are brainwashed into thinking this is a good thing.
Identity theft has never been a big issue with me because I keep my credit in awful shape. My reasoning is this, I better mess it up before someone else gets a chance to. Credit is just debt, plain and simple. Why are we Americans so anxious to get in debt all the time. Everyone I know has a least a few thousand bucks in credit card debt. We put ourselves in a position to be in debt our entire lives. We even stress out over what our credit score is just so we can use it to get further in debt. It pays to be rich. All that interest you pay back is just making a rich man even more rich. If you are busy paying off debts, you're more than likely never going to be rich. Poor people with no credit don't care if someone steals their identity. Nothing to lose.
I don't think the article meant it was "surprising". When I hear someone say "unusual" I don't think "exciting turn of events". Though I don't think the word "unusual" works well here either. WHO CARES!
As far as the actual article, who else thought this was Urban Legend Spam that had made it's way somehow to Slashdot?
Haha I forgot about the other "office/library". My bathroom has Maxim and Stuff magazines, a perl book, a VB book, and a C++ book. I will say that the perl book is actually just a printout of a pdf though. hehe
Well, I see that point. I think that in that case, though, I'd just need the first chapter or so. I wouldn't need the whole book. Maybe just a pamplet to get me started. I mean, according to the review, the first chapter tells the reader how to use "man" and "info". Why can't people write books like that? Or pamplets even. They could sell them for 2 bucks instead of $40-100. I mean I could sit down and write 1000 pages. Does that mean I need to? No, not really. Everything I need to know is in the first chapter of that book. I may be exaggerating a bit.:)
I do tend to read everything on my computer though. No newspapers, no books anymore, it's all on my PC. I spent the money I would have spent on those books on a 21" flat CRT on ebay ($76). Less eyestrain for me. Though it was a backstrain to carry.
I try to see people's point as to why they prefer books over technical docs, but I miss the point totally. You buy a book to learn about the computer you are using or the OS you are using? So where do you read it? In bed? I guess you could but it's not a story it's a book to teach you how to do something on the computer. So you'd be better off if you were in front of the computer while reading it. That way you can have hands on experience with the subject matter. If I'm sitting at the computer reading a book I may as well be reading the documentation or at least a PDF version of the book. Right?
I use NVU when I'm feeling lazy. Best open source web development would be to open yourself to learning html. I know where you are coming from though. Dreamweaver is nice. I installed it with cxoffice on Linux. Really though everything that you can do with it can be done with a text editor if you know what you are doing. Plus you'll actually have more control over it. It is easier to use Dreamweaver or something like it. It also numbs your brain to solving simple problems when they occur
NVU is a good open source program. If you can't make it do what you want, then you should probably buy Dreamweaver or learn a bit more about html.
I tried this out over the weekend and I will admit its still a bit too buggy to use as a main desktop. That aside, it's a great start. I really didn't like the mouse pointer. That is a bit nit-picky though. For a LiveCD it was actually one of the faster I've seen. I imagine it would run very nicely if it were installed instead of running from a livecd. I like eye-candy myself. Most of the really cool eye-candy for Linux is still very beta though, such as Enlightenment DR17 and this Looking Glass Project. As much as I use my computer, eye candy is something I look for. That may sound strange to some but it's my personal preference. That doesn't mean I don't know how to use the CLI. It just means that when I'm using a GUI I want it to impress. Weird though that I didn't like the XP bubbly look. I prefer to use the classic look in Windows. I guess it's because the "XP" look isn't really all that innovative if you ask me. I tend to feel like my desktop is cluttered if I use it. I like a slick non-cluttered desktop. Drop Shadows and transparency to me make using my computer more enjoyable. If it slows my computer down, I'll break down and buy some upgrades.
Also in this same line of thought, I'd suggest learning to make small programs that do a specific task first. I've heard many say that the best programs do one thing and do it well. That being said, find a simple task with you can write a program to do. Maybe you could right a program to do simple math, experiment with user input, or maybe work with files. I used an IRC bot as my beginning self-tutorial. Am I wrong to think that's a good start? I'm just beginning too. Does everyone feel that building small programs with a specific task is a good way to start?
I was going to submit an "ask slashdot" post of this very same question but thought it'd be rejected. I'm glad someone else did. I've been trying to teach myself programming for the past couple of months. I've been reading as much as I can. I'm working on a project to help me learn faster. I've created an IRC bot in perl. I also made an IRC client with REALbasic. Both are still crude, but they are helping me learning certain things that would have been hard to grasp or impliment. For instance, I wanted the bot to speak like yoda. I used this problem to learn more about string manipulation. I wanted the bot to log the channel and randomly quote. So I learned about file handling. I created a custom log file and pulled lines from it randomly. A friend wanted a link on his website to link to a random file mirror. So I learned how to do that in PHP. My main problem is that I'm having trouble concentrating on one language, but I can see a big improvement. I may not be learning as fast as I'd like but I am learning. I wouldn't invest in something like VB.net or Delphi or REALbasic Pro as a start. There are a ton of languages and even IDE's that are free out there. NetBeans is Java IDE that looks nice, though I haven't really tried Java. Some may disagree with me on that. I don't like the IDE experience much though. REALbasic for Linux Standard edition is free and it can give you results quickly. You'll want to learn more if you try it and write a program in a few minutes with it. I know the Linux community probably doesn't like BASIC, but that software could make developing on Linux easy for a lot more programmers. I liked it better than Visual Basic which I also tried. It seemed like a much better product, but I'm speaking from a programming n00b perspective. Thanks for posting this question. I'll really enjoy reading everyone's take on programming for a beginner.
I'd like to see a nice Linux powered car stereo head unit that would read flash or SD memory cards. A built in card reader could replace cd's. Also it'd be nice to allow recording from the radio to the card. I think I'll go build one. Who wants to buy one?
The goal of Linux and OSS isn't to snuff out competition or "replace" something. It's goal is to provide quality "alternative" software that's freely available to anyone that wants to use it. In reality, Linux isn't competing. An important reason for this is that it's not looking for market share. Red Hat may be looking for market share. Suse may be looking for market share. They are commercial Linux distros. There are very few commercial distros as compared to freely available distros of equal quality. Yet, most people base their opinions about Linux on these commercial distros. I've never understood that. IMO most of the commercial distros are not good examples of Linux as a whole. The really great distros are the ones that are totally free.
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I'd like to offer congrats to the parent for being the first in this discussion about love and relationships to make a Star Wars reference.
Everyone knows the true way to get someone to fall in love with you is to hand them a Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster. The effect of which is like having your brains smashed out by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick. So it's pretty much like getting married.
MicroSoft should have just bought the whole country!
"if you need to prevent them from altering it, that's easy. put it on read-only media (a CD, not just mount -o ro)." If the student is root they can copy the script to another mounted filesystem and edit it all they want.
For the life of me, I can't understand why anyone would take that post seriously. He was joking! Anyone who could possibly think that a celeron is better than a opteron wouldn't be able to tie their own shoe laces much less post a comment on slashdot. What's happened to everyone's sense of humor? Please don't correct people on humorous statements. I think that's the "in" thing with the newest generation. If I had to guess I'd say you are a 14-17 year old. I don't remember correcting humorous comments when I was that age. I'd verify that someone was indeed ignorant before correcting them. Kids, verify someone's stupidity before you make an ass of yourself!
How is that flaimbait?....That's a valid opinion and really just stating the facts.
I wouldn't call him a scumbag. I also really don't care what his opinion is on sercurity is either. He's capitalizing on his name. In all honesty though, he deserves to be able to do that. He was used to set a precedent. That's all. They were tough on him because they had to be to get their point across. Somehow, that's made him look like a major player in the "hacker" society.
One key point about Kevin's story though...He got caught. People seems to ignore the fact that there were plenty of "hackers" at that time and Kevin is the one that was caught. So how does that make him the best or even close to the best? That's like being in a marathon, walking behind everyone, and since you're the one the media can keep up with they are asking you how you stay so fit and healthy. Makes very little sense.
Net worth will go down as the interest on that loan builds.
I "bought" a house in february. It was $100k. If I had put that same amount into google stock I could have bought at least 3 houses of the same amount.
That's why everyone is in debt. They think that money is theirs. Low-interest or high-interest doesn't matter. People are to anxious to get in dept. Too many peopl e live beyond their means. It catches up with them. Credit = Debt plain and simple. If you have credit and you use it you are in debt.
Now don't get me wrong, credit is convenient, and great credit is very convenient. That doesn't change the fact that after you pay the loan back you usually have a net worth less than when you started out with and the person giving you the loan has more money than they started out with. And we are brainwashed into thinking this is a good thing.
Identity theft has never been a big issue with me because I keep my credit in awful shape. My reasoning is this, I better mess it up before someone else gets a chance to. Credit is just debt, plain and simple. Why are we Americans so anxious to get in debt all the time. Everyone I know has a least a few thousand bucks in credit card debt. We put ourselves in a position to be in debt our entire lives. We even stress out over what our credit score is just so we can use it to get further in debt. It pays to be rich. All that interest you pay back is just making a rich man even more rich. If you are busy paying off debts, you're more than likely never going to be rich. Poor people with no credit don't care if someone steals their identity. Nothing to lose.
Best laugh I've had all week.
I'm still using a CRT..you insensitive clod!
Also, when do you think "Google Mars" will come out.
I don't think the article meant it was "surprising". When I hear someone say "unusual" I don't think "exciting turn of events". Though I don't think the word "unusual" works well here either. WHO CARES!
As far as the actual article, who else thought this was Urban Legend Spam that had made it's way somehow to Slashdot?
I used autocomplete, when learning Linux. Type "a" hit tab, list all the commands. Type man "command".
Haha I forgot about the other "office/library". My bathroom has Maxim and Stuff magazines, a perl book, a VB book, and a C++ book. I will say that the perl book is actually just a printout of a pdf though. hehe
Well, I see that point. I think that in that case, though, I'd just need the first chapter or so. I wouldn't need the whole book. Maybe just a pamplet to get me started. I mean, according to the review, the first chapter tells the reader how to use "man" and "info". Why can't people write books like that? Or pamplets even. They could sell them for 2 bucks instead of $40-100. I mean I could sit down and write 1000 pages. Does that mean I need to? No, not really. Everything I need to know is in the first chapter of that book. I may be exaggerating a bit. :)
I do tend to read everything on my computer though. No newspapers, no books anymore, it's all on my PC. I spent the money I would have spent on those books on a 21" flat CRT on ebay ($76). Less eyestrain for me. Though it was a backstrain to carry.
I try to see people's point as to why they prefer books over technical docs, but I miss the point totally. You buy a book to learn about the computer you are using or the OS you are using? So where do you read it? In bed? I guess you could but it's not a story it's a book to teach you how to do something on the computer. So you'd be better off if you were in front of the computer while reading it. That way you can have hands on experience with the subject matter. If I'm sitting at the computer reading a book I may as well be reading the documentation or at least a PDF version of the book. Right?
I use NVU when I'm feeling lazy. Best open source web development would be to open yourself to learning html. I know where you are coming from though. Dreamweaver is nice. I installed it with cxoffice on Linux. Really though everything that you can do with it can be done with a text editor if you know what you are doing. Plus you'll actually have more control over it. It is easier to use Dreamweaver or something like it. It also numbs your brain to solving simple problems when they occur
NVU is a good open source program. If you can't make it do what you want, then you should probably buy Dreamweaver or learn a bit more about html.
Maybe CmdrTaco should just up and ban all "Anonymous Cowards" as well. I would.
I tried this out over the weekend and I will admit its still a bit too buggy to use as a main desktop. That aside, it's a great start. I really didn't like the mouse pointer. That is a bit nit-picky though. For a LiveCD it was actually one of the faster I've seen. I imagine it would run very nicely if it were installed instead of running from a livecd. I like eye-candy myself. Most of the really cool eye-candy for Linux is still very beta though, such as Enlightenment DR17 and this Looking Glass Project. As much as I use my computer, eye candy is something I look for. That may sound strange to some but it's my personal preference. That doesn't mean I don't know how to use the CLI. It just means that when I'm using a GUI I want it to impress. Weird though that I didn't like the XP bubbly look. I prefer to use the classic look in Windows. I guess it's because the "XP" look isn't really all that innovative if you ask me. I tend to feel like my desktop is cluttered if I use it. I like a slick non-cluttered desktop. Drop Shadows and transparency to me make using my computer more enjoyable. If it slows my computer down, I'll break down and buy some upgrades.
Also in this same line of thought, I'd suggest learning to make small programs that do a specific task first. I've heard many say that the best programs do one thing and do it well. That being said, find a simple task with you can write a program to do. Maybe you could right a program to do simple math, experiment with user input, or maybe work with files. I used an IRC bot as my beginning self-tutorial. Am I wrong to think that's a good start? I'm just beginning too. Does everyone feel that building small programs with a specific task is a good way to start?
I was going to submit an "ask slashdot" post of this very same question but thought it'd be rejected. I'm glad someone else did. I've been trying to teach myself programming for the past couple of months. I've been reading as much as I can. I'm working on a project to help me learn faster. I've created an IRC bot in perl. I also made an IRC client with REALbasic. Both are still crude, but they are helping me learning certain things that would have been hard to grasp or impliment. For instance, I wanted the bot to speak like yoda. I used this problem to learn more about string manipulation. I wanted the bot to log the channel and randomly quote. So I learned about file handling. I created a custom log file and pulled lines from it randomly. A friend wanted a link on his website to link to a random file mirror. So I learned how to do that in PHP.
My main problem is that I'm having trouble concentrating on one language, but I can see a big improvement. I may not be learning as fast as I'd like but I am learning.
I wouldn't invest in something like VB.net or Delphi or REALbasic Pro as a start. There are a ton of languages and even IDE's that are free out there. NetBeans is Java IDE that looks nice, though I haven't really tried Java. Some may disagree with me on that. I don't like the IDE experience much though. REALbasic for Linux Standard edition is free and it can give you results quickly. You'll want to learn more if you try it and write a program in a few minutes with it. I know the Linux community probably doesn't like BASIC, but that software could make developing on Linux easy for a lot more programmers. I liked it better than Visual Basic which I also tried. It seemed like a much better product, but I'm speaking from a programming n00b perspective.
Thanks for posting this question. I'll really enjoy reading everyone's take on programming for a beginner.
I'd like to see a nice Linux powered car stereo head unit that would read flash or SD memory cards. A built in card reader could replace cd's. Also it'd be nice to allow recording from the radio to the card. I think I'll go build one. Who wants to buy one?
The goal of Linux and OSS isn't to snuff out competition or "replace" something. It's goal is to provide quality "alternative" software that's freely available to anyone that wants to use it. In reality, Linux isn't competing. An important reason for this is that it's not looking for market share. Red Hat may be looking for market share. Suse may be looking for market share. They are commercial Linux distros. There are very few commercial distros as compared to freely available distros of equal quality. Yet, most people base their opinions about Linux on these commercial distros. I've never understood that. IMO most of the commercial distros are not good examples of Linux as a whole. The really great distros are the ones that are totally free.