Well, I think one of two major things is going to happen here if it is true.
1) Sun will not release a new version of SO for quite some time while they fix the bugs and make it faster. Then release a kick butt product, a Solaris of the Office software world.
or 2) It will die a horrible flaming death like HotJava and the JavaStation.
One of my feeling due to this news is that Sun is trying to become completely self contained, or as close as they can. The close alliance with Netscape provides a browser, and the acquisition of SO would provide an office product. This way they don't have to worry about buying licenses from Corel for WordPerfect. Hardware, OS, programing apps, productivity apps, and internet connectivity all in one bundle.
Due to the fact that I don't see any alliance with Corel coming anytime soon I think that Sun is going to put some effert into this product. One of the reasons HotJava died, other than being a crappy product, was that Sun had to support Netscape in the browser market, and couldn't do that if they were devolping and releasing their own product. As someone else pointed out, they want something very big that is programed in Pure Java that they can showcase. Also, someone else mentioned that they thought that SO was already programed in Java, but I have heard several people mention that it is buggy and slow. If Sun does want to show off Java, and wants to use SO to do this they aren't going to be satisfied until it isn't buggy and slow. Also, in order for them to infiltrate a market dominated by Corel and MS they are going to NEED to make this product free. Especially due to the fact that Corel gives WordPerfect 8 out to Linux users for free right now.
If this is true we may have a very interesting Sun Star Office out there in a year or two. Or it may dissapear all together.
I agree that Openwin and CDE are both kind of, well, bad. But if it bothers you so much, then use XF86 on your Sparc. It should port easily, especially with the new Ultra 10's being PCI based you can go and get a new video card that is supported.
A good portion of Linux stuff works on Solaris, but Solaris has much finer locking, more stability, and frankly more security. It may be quite a while, if SGI doesn't step in, before Linux has as fine locking as Solaris. As for the other two, well... they're moving very quickly.
Frankly, I don't think that it is a good to compair Linux to Solaris. They are two different classes of OS right now. Solaris is the big time server OS, and Linux is the midrange to low end server and workstation OS. They may compete for the midrange but if a company is willing to spend the money Solaris is probably the better choice in most cases. Personally I think the best set up would be to have a bad ass SPARC server in the background with Linux clients attached to it. The best for the money, security, flexabilty, growth, and power.
I wonder what kind of distance this thing has? It never mentions what level of frequency or intensity it uses, just that it uses radio waves. If I could use this to set up a network in the apartment complex I live in... ahhh!
Ok Mr. Hacker who knows exactly where every key is. When using a Sun keyboard where is the ~, how about control and caps lock, or the "Meta" keys? It isn't your standard "101"or "104" keyboard. Sometimes legends are good.
I would be curious about your plan to drop the population of the earth to 2/5 of its current population in one generation. I think you have been reading too much of Carol Lay's "Story Minute" comic.
Perhaps you are asking for a condom drop over the Vatican. Or hoping the Chinese will 'request' that three of every five citizens 'volenteer' to off themselves.
Or maybe you are thinking of the REALLY easy way of just nuking large areas of the world. Of course, that has some other side effects that doesn't help the situation.
Anyway. It would be perferable if the world didn't have 5+ billion people but dropping it to 2 billion in one generation I don't think is fesable.
Maybe I'm just dumb but I can't seem to find the horoscope on the online version. Even if that is the only extra thing that they add to the printed version it is enought to get me to go out and waste paper by picking one up.
has been achieved with the invention of this chair. Does anyone else think it kind of funny to have your computer between your legs while you are web surfing? Makes one wonder what kind of sites they were visiting when they thought of that design.:)
My 15" monitor does 1152x864 no problem every day. I have even bumped it up to 1280x1024 without significant degredation in picture quality. Heck, it doesn't become hard to read fonts until I bump it up to 1600x1200. I recommend that you go out and spend quite a bit more money on your monitor next time, a good monitor is well worth the price.
It is finally good to see some data from a neutral source. It is also very nice to see comments describing waiting for Intel to catch up. As for the comment somewhere on the page saying that the K7 eats 60 W, ouch! No wonder the thing has a running temperature of 30 C and greater!
Because everyone knows that in a couple of years MS is going to have to release their new OS on a dual layered dual sided DVD due to the fact that it will be too big! But seriously, with a dual sided/layerd DVD being able to hold ~17 Gigs of information there are quite a bit of possibilities. The idea of movies came mainly from the home entertainment industry, it started out as just an extra bonus for the computer industry. We can only take CD's so far, and I think this is a way to prevent what happened to the floppy disk. What I mean from that is apps that take more than 7 floppies to install, sometimes upwards of 40. By building a new standard NOW it will prevent having obsolete technology in a shot time. A good example of way to many CD's was the game Phatasmagoria, which had 7 CD's, and it came out something like 4 years ago.
Just in case you are wondering, one reason why environmentalists dislike nuclear power plants is because the water used in the plant for cooling and other purposes is deposited back into the river, or other water source that is used, but at a higher temperature. Now, small changes in temperature in water systems can cause problems in the ecology. Certain fish won't spawn when the temperature of the water changes by only a couple degrees. By dumping this hot water back into the environment can cause damage by increasing the temperature of the water.
All very good questions that aren't answered in the article. As for keeping birds from flying in the area, well you can't keep them out so I guess they consider all of the cooked birds as reasonable losses.
From what I have read and seen about the K6-3 is that for int operations is was faster than the PIII, but that the FP calculations weren't quite up to par with the PIII. Now, we all know that benchmarks aren't everything so don't go raving at me about this but the one benchmark that I have seen for a BETA K7 was that the FP calculations weren't as fast as the PIII, nor as fast as a supercooled K6-3. That was over a month ago though and it was a BETA chip on a BETA motherboard. My guess is that in August when some 3rd party benchmarks and reviews come out that the K7 will show itself to be the top dog. I say guess because I have read some articles discussing how the PIII FP calculations were set up in such a way to be more robust, not faster, but more robust then that of the K7. Before anyone starts spewing out how the K7 has three FPU pipelines, and how it kicks the living ?hi? out of the PIII, please take these points into consideration. 1) We are all working on speculation. Unless you somehow have your own personal K7 to play with we are all relying on what other people have said, and posted. 2) A lot of the articles I read compairing the K7 to the PIII with actual performance data are now at least a month old, some up to three months old. If anyone has information from a NEUTRAL 3rd party with some actual performance data, please post a url to it. 3) I am planning on buying a K6-2 within a week. I am a supporter of AMD, but I also understand that Intel is starting to head down other roads. We don't hear about AMD starting to design a 64 bit processor, althought considering they are working with the Alpha group... . Intel has split its resources into several projects. With them working on upgrading the PIII, the Merced, etc etc etc, of course they won't be able to fight AMD in the 32 bit market as effectively.
Are you trying to imply the maddog is a lier?:p But seriously, probably the best people to conduct benchmarks are not people actively involved in one OS or another. Considering the fact that maddog is the executive director of Linux International and the senior leader of the UNIX Software Group at Compaq Corp his opinion, although I would trust, might be considered biased by other groups.
Ok, I know that SGI was helping MS out with adding multiple processor support onto Windows, so that later version wouldn't be limited like NT with 4 or other Windows with 1. But the idea of NT connecting onto 64-128 processors seems, well, a bit far fetched, not even Solaris can seamlessly deal with that many processors. Anyway, what is it going to run on? The price tag on a machine with 64 IA processors would be almost as much as the MS software licenses! Also it isn't like the Xeon or the PPro can handle being placed in such an array. And although it is very possible to cluster Alphas to that scale would it be worth it? Are they going to try and run it on SGI machines?? Even if they were going to try, Irix isn't dead yet and would kick the living ?hi? out of it.
This is some serious FUD here. Quick throw in more dry ice, there isn't enough fog to obscure the truth!
He mentions that most people won't buy it until after Y2K. That would be a mistake, last I heard 95 and 98 were not Y2K compliant, and that NT was only fully compliant with SP5, which I have heard is fairly unstable.
Also, just a quick question. Isn't W2k supposed to be the OS that you buy once and pay for the rest of you life. By that I mean, isn't it set up that you need to get a new license every year in order to use it? Funny how no one ever mentions that.
As for a Windows computer working on a server with 32 processors. Do I even need to touch that? I am kind of curious where they are going to find an x86 machine that can do that.
It probably means that.1% of the code is violently unstable. And at 30 million lines of code, that comes out to be a mear 30000 lines of code, and is probably something like the start menu and the My Computer icon.
I can see it now. You flip to a channel, it isn't there and the cable box crashes. No more of that static, we have the BSOD. Some other company that MS is pissed at trys to advertise and Dr. Watson for TV pops up and says this commercial has caused an error and is shutting down, ok cancel help. (of course they will forget to place a keyboard and mouse on the TV which leads to my next one). Keyboard and pointer device not found, please insert MS TV cdrom into cable box and click ok. You video card has not be found, defaulting to VGA 16 colors.
We aren't using all of the energy that we could be using. Everytime we lift one of those laptops we put in potential energy. Currently underdevelopement is ways of recovering that energy and transfering it directly to your laptop. All that it requires is for you to DROP it from the height that you lifted it to. Yes folks, it's that easy. Worried about not having enough battery power. Just pick up your laptop and drop it several times and your worries about not having enough life in your batteries will just fall away. If it isn't working then throw your laptop on the ground harder, thereby transfering extra KE into the laptop.
Other technologies coming soon: The 5 lb Sledge hammer And Dynomite
So basically we are typing in superfluid helium, to remove friction, with non-metalic super conducting materials, metals aren't as good as other materials for conducting at extremely low temperatures. .01 J/keypress * 4 keypress/s =.04 J/s =.04 W So in one hour you have saved 144 J where the system, at 50 W, has eaten up 180000 J. 144/180000 = 8e-4 = 0 because it is insignificant or outlying data and therefore thrown out. The amount of energy that would be created is not worth the effort. After 1250 hours of typing you have save ONE HOUR! YEA!
I can guess Compaqs marketing strategy, "Type for 52 hours and get the 53 hour FREE!*" *Test conducted in superfluid helium with special superconduction motherboard.
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Well, I think one of two major things is going to happen here if it is true.
1) Sun will not release a new version of SO for quite some time while they fix the bugs and make it faster. Then release a kick butt product, a Solaris of the Office software world.
or
2) It will die a horrible flaming death like HotJava and the JavaStation.
One of my feeling due to this news is that Sun is trying to become completely self contained, or as close as they can. The close alliance with Netscape provides a browser, and the acquisition of SO would provide an office product. This way they don't have to worry about buying licenses from Corel for WordPerfect. Hardware, OS, programing apps, productivity apps, and internet connectivity all in one bundle.
Due to the fact that I don't see any alliance with Corel coming anytime soon I think that Sun is going to put some effert into this product. One of the reasons HotJava died, other than being a crappy product, was that Sun had to support Netscape in the browser market, and couldn't do that if they were devolping and releasing their own product.
As someone else pointed out, they want something very big that is programed in Pure Java that they can showcase. Also, someone else mentioned that they thought that SO was already programed in Java, but I have heard several people mention that it is buggy and slow. If Sun does want to show off Java, and wants to use SO to do this they aren't going to be satisfied until it isn't buggy and slow. Also, in order for them to infiltrate a market dominated by Corel and MS they are going to NEED to make this product free. Especially due to the fact that Corel gives WordPerfect 8 out to Linux users for free right now.
If this is true we may have a very interesting Sun Star Office out there in a year or two. Or it may dissapear all together.
I agree that Openwin and CDE are both kind of, well, bad. But if it bothers you so much, then use XF86 on your Sparc. It should port easily, especially with the new Ultra 10's being PCI based you can go and get a new video card that is supported.
A good portion of Linux stuff works on Solaris, but Solaris has much finer locking, more stability, and frankly more security. It may be quite a while, if SGI doesn't step in, before Linux has as fine locking as Solaris. As for the other two, well... they're moving very quickly.
Frankly, I don't think that it is a good to compair Linux to Solaris. They are two different classes of OS right now. Solaris is the big time server OS, and Linux is the midrange to low end server and workstation OS. They may compete for the midrange but if a company is willing to spend the money Solaris is probably the better choice in most cases. Personally I think the best set up would be to have a bad ass SPARC server in the background with Linux clients attached to it. The best for the money, security, flexabilty, growth, and power.
150 feet is all I need. Set up repeater stations if necessary.
I wonder what kind of distance this thing has? It never mentions what level of frequency or intensity it uses, just that it uses radio waves. If I could use this to set up a network in the apartment complex I live in... ahhh!
Ok Mr. Hacker who knows exactly where every key is. When using a Sun keyboard where is the ~, how about control and caps lock, or the "Meta" keys? It isn't your standard "101"or "104" keyboard. Sometimes legends are good.
I would be curious about your plan to drop the population of the earth to 2/5 of its current population in one generation. I think you have been reading too much of Carol Lay's "Story Minute" comic.
Perhaps you are asking for a condom drop over the Vatican. Or hoping the Chinese will 'request' that three of every five citizens 'volenteer' to off themselves.
Or maybe you are thinking of the REALLY easy way of just nuking large areas of the world. Of course, that has some other side effects that doesn't help the situation.
Anyway. It would be perferable if the world didn't have 5+ billion people but dropping it to 2 billion in one generation I don't think is fesable.
Maybe I'm just dumb but I can't seem to find the horoscope on the online version. Even if that is the only extra thing that they add to the printed version it is enought to get me to go out and waste paper by picking one up.
has been achieved with the invention of this chair. Does anyone else think it kind of funny to have your computer between your legs while you are web surfing? Makes one wonder what kind of sites they were visiting when they thought of that design. :)
My 15" monitor does 1152x864 no problem every day. I have even bumped it up to 1280x1024 without significant degredation in picture quality. Heck, it doesn't become hard to read fonts until I bump it up to 1600x1200. I recommend that you go out and spend quite a bit more money on your monitor next time, a good monitor is well worth the price.
It is finally good to see some data from a neutral source.
It is also very nice to see comments describing waiting for Intel to catch up.
As for the comment somewhere on the page saying that the K7 eats 60 W, ouch! No wonder the thing has a running temperature of 30 C and greater!
Because everyone knows that in a couple of years MS is going to have to release their new OS on a dual layered dual sided DVD due to the fact that it will be too big!
But seriously, with a dual sided/layerd DVD being able to hold ~17 Gigs of information there are quite a bit of possibilities. The idea of movies came mainly from the home entertainment industry, it started out as just an extra bonus for the computer industry.
We can only take CD's so far, and I think this is a way to prevent what happened to the floppy disk. What I mean from that is apps that take more than 7 floppies to install, sometimes upwards of 40. By building a new standard NOW it will prevent having obsolete technology in a shot time. A good example of way to many CD's was the game Phatasmagoria, which had 7 CD's, and it came out something like 4 years ago.
Just in case you are wondering, one reason why environmentalists dislike nuclear power plants is because the water used in the plant for cooling and other purposes is deposited back into the river, or other water source that is used, but at a higher temperature. Now, small changes in temperature in water systems can cause problems in the ecology. Certain fish won't spawn when the temperature of the water changes by only a couple degrees. By dumping this hot water back into the environment can cause damage by increasing the temperature of the water.
That and they don't like the word radiation.
All very good questions that aren't answered in the article.
As for keeping birds from flying in the area, well you can't keep them out so I guess they consider all of the cooked birds as reasonable losses.
From what I have read and seen about the K6-3 is that for int operations is was faster than the PIII, but that the FP calculations weren't quite up to par with the PIII.
Now, we all know that benchmarks aren't everything so don't go raving at me about this but the one benchmark that I have seen for a BETA K7 was that the FP calculations weren't as fast as the PIII, nor as fast as a supercooled K6-3. That was over a month ago though and it was a BETA chip on a BETA motherboard.
My guess is that in August when some 3rd party benchmarks and reviews come out that the K7 will show itself to be the top dog. I say guess because I have read some articles discussing how the PIII FP calculations were set up in such a way to be more robust, not faster, but more robust then that of the K7.
Before anyone starts spewing out how the K7 has three FPU pipelines, and how it kicks the living ?hi? out of the PIII, please take these points into consideration.
1) We are all working on speculation. Unless you somehow have your own personal K7 to play with we are all relying on what other people have said, and posted.
2) A lot of the articles I read compairing the K7 to the PIII with actual performance data are now at least a month old, some up to three months old. If anyone has information from a NEUTRAL 3rd party with some actual performance data, please post a url to it.
3) I am planning on buying a K6-2 within a week. I am a supporter of AMD, but I also understand that Intel is starting to head down other roads. We don't hear about AMD starting to design a 64 bit processor, althought considering they are working with the Alpha group... . Intel has split its resources into several projects. With them working on upgrading the PIII, the Merced, etc etc etc, of course they won't be able to fight AMD in the 32 bit market as effectively.
Are you trying to imply the maddog is a lier? :p
But seriously, probably the best people to conduct benchmarks are not people actively involved in one OS or another. Considering the fact that maddog is the executive director of Linux International and the senior leader of the UNIX Software Group at Compaq Corp his opinion, although I would trust, might be considered biased by other groups.
I can't wait to hear what a 600 MHz UltraSPARC can do!
Ok, I know that SGI was helping MS out with adding multiple processor support onto Windows, so that later version wouldn't be limited like NT with 4 or other Windows with 1. But the idea of NT connecting onto 64-128 processors seems, well, a bit far fetched, not even Solaris can seamlessly deal with that many processors. Anyway, what is it going to run on? The price tag on a machine with 64 IA processors would be almost as much as the MS software licenses! Also it isn't like the Xeon or the PPro can handle being placed in such an array. And although it is very possible to cluster Alphas to that scale would it be worth it? Are they going to try and run it on SGI machines?? Even if they were going to try, Irix isn't dead yet and would kick the living ?hi? out of it.
This is some serious FUD here. Quick throw in more dry ice, there isn't enough fog to obscure the truth!
He mentions that most people won't buy it until after Y2K. That would be a mistake, last I heard 95 and 98 were not Y2K compliant, and that NT was only fully compliant with SP5, which I have heard is fairly unstable.
Also, just a quick question. Isn't W2k supposed to be the OS that you buy once and pay for the rest of you life. By that I mean, isn't it set up that you need to get a new license every year in order to use it? Funny how no one ever mentions that.
As for a Windows computer working on a server with 32 processors. Do I even need to touch that? I am kind of curious where they are going to find an x86 machine that can do that.
It probably means that .1% of the code is violently unstable. And at 30 million lines of code, that comes out to be a mear 30000 lines of code, and is probably something like the start menu and the My Computer icon.
I can see it now.
You flip to a channel, it isn't there and the cable box crashes. No more of that static, we have the BSOD.
Some other company that MS is pissed at trys to advertise and Dr. Watson for TV pops up and says this commercial has caused an error and is shutting down, ok cancel help. (of course they will forget to place a keyboard and mouse on the TV which leads to my next one).
Keyboard and pointer device not found, please insert MS TV cdrom into cable box and click ok.
You video card has not be found, defaulting to VGA 16 colors.
Hey, if MS gets CE into their cable boxes they just might have to hang upsidedown in in order to watch their TV.
I hope they take extra precautions to not hit the alien space ship behind the comet, oh wait, that was the LAST comet. Sorry
We aren't using all of the energy that we could be using. Everytime we lift one of those laptops we put in potential energy. Currently underdevelopement is ways of recovering that energy and transfering it directly to your laptop. All that it requires is for you to DROP it from the height that you lifted it to.
Yes folks, it's that easy. Worried about not having enough battery power. Just pick up your laptop and drop it several times and your worries about not having enough life in your batteries will just fall away. If it isn't working then throw your laptop on the ground harder, thereby transfering extra KE into the laptop.
Other technologies coming soon:
The 5 lb Sledge hammer
And
Dynomite
Sorry the strategy is Type for 52 days and get one extra hour FREE
So basically we are typing in superfluid helium, to remove friction, with non-metalic super conducting materials, metals aren't as good as other materials for conducting at extremely low temperatures. .04 J/s = .04 W
.01 J/keypress * 4 keypress/s =
So in one hour you have saved 144 J where the system, at 50 W, has eaten up 180000 J.
144/180000 = 8e-4 = 0 because it is insignificant or outlying data and therefore thrown out.
The amount of energy that would be created is not worth the effort. After 1250 hours of typing you have save ONE HOUR! YEA!
I can guess Compaqs marketing strategy, "Type for 52 hours and get the 53 hour FREE!*"
*Test conducted in superfluid helium with special superconduction motherboard.