Quite right, I agree. But they can so painlessly redirect huge resources to quality control and bug fixing (the former which is, don't laugh, quite good for the industry as a whole).
Why wouldn't you want to fix what people say is your biggest deterant to implementing windows? Their egos can't be that huge, can they? What the hell are they thinking? Don't they know that they are no longer making gains in marketshare? That fact redmond needs a big philosophy change is an understatement
Think about it, Microsoft could fairly easily (by pouring money) change their OS functionality so that administration and development wise, there would be no clear distinction between MS OS and unicies. They did it with Mac's GUI, why not with unix's CLI? Then who would be around to stop them?
Spend money to fix problems with its software? If they know its poorly coded, why don't they launch an entire other branch dedicated to fixing bugs/product maintenance? It's not like they don't have the money. Throw a billion dollars at.net and windows and see if you can make it better. Hell throw five. They'll still have enough money to run the company for a year without any other income.
As much as we'd all like to think, they people over at Microsoft are not idiots. They have enough money to hire the best and the brightest. They do have some quality products (i.e. those whose securities problems are not much of a problem like games, and i personally like their Intellimouse Optical.).
Can anybody tell me why so many smart people won't see the light of day and dedicate big resources to overcome their biggest drawback?
Yes, tomcat is simple enough to begin using for yourself, but this book aims at the industrial uses of it.
Documentation mostly tells you what a system does. Books (wrox, oreilly) mostly tell you how to set up a system to do what you want it to do, and explain uses that you might not have thought of.
I like and respect the writers for wrox, and they wouldn't write about it if they didn't think it was useful.
If you are thinking about intergrating JSPs or applets into your already existing complex web architechure, then I would probably buy a book that has professtionals outline exactly what to do, and what best practices there are.
Nope, if you read the article you'd see that just the corporate mail servers were blocked (like other posters have already pointed out) Their ISP mail servers we not touched. Nothing gets a point across to a CEO like suddenly having your email blocked.
Hmmm... good point. It is, however, just easier to type "ant". Plus you can put more complicated rules into ant than you can easily achieve with javac.
... the Java equivalent of make and makefiles. (...for those that don't know. They really didn't give a capsule explanation in the review) I personally like to develop java from the commandline, and Ant's conditional compilation (only compiling files that have changes) saves tons of time. Not to mention that it is quite useful in rolling out and configuring products. Even if you use an ide like Forte, it would probably be a good idea and head to the Ant page and see what is all about.
Also, it has become somewhat of the defacto standard in open source Java development.
XML is the portable data format. Java is the portable programming lanuage. Java, IMHO, has more API for dealing with XML than any other language I know. Name some XML programs: Xerces, Xalan, Ant (I know they are all Apache) they're all for Java. I know that there are parsers in C++ and Perl, but if you are using XML, most likely you are using Java.
I believe this was the point of the orginial poster.
" It takes a few days to pick up 98% of any language/tech., a few hours to learn 98% of the commands and interfaces for an OS etc."
I don't know if I agree with that. If you just ment syntax and begining functionality, then yes, but proficiency takes much longer. How can you expect to learn, for instance, the entire Java standard API? You can learn about advanced constructs such as IPCs and threading and networking, but I wouldn't say that you knew 98% of a language, unless you've written programs that take advantage of 98% of the standard libraries.
In regard to OSes, you can't tell me that a windows person has any hope of becoming proficient in a Unix environment in a couple days. A year maybe.
In my resume, I separate the skills that I am proficient in and the skills that I have rudimentary knowledge in. I believe this is wise because what if you read a beginners Java, and in the interview they ask you about syncronized multithreading?
I wouldn't put anything on my resume that I just picked up in a couple days. It only takes one slip up to make you regret that you did put something you know nothing about to make you regret it big time.
He must have been pretty damn good to evade capture and continue to crack 100 sites. Makes me wonder home they caught him. If you are a professional and can break into 100 US military sites, what's to stop you? I figure if you are good enough to crack 10 or twenty without messing up, they are probably not going to catch you.
Anybody have any good stories of catching elusive hackers, or insights into how they might have got him?
Yes, my original post probably shouldn't have been modded up to 5 if I didn't explain the whole Ant TSP-Web Entanglement connection. But I mearly meant the similarity as an aside.
My main point was this could be a much more effective way of finding popularly related websites than searching on a search engine. It struck me as changing the way we surf if enough sites enable it and abuse is minimal.
I guess that only reason I mentioned the Ant implementation wasn't just because I saw some similarities, but it was because it is curious to see a non-natural derived system (Web Entanglement) mirror a natural derived system (Ant implementation of TSP)
It seems that the more we improve CS-things the closer they become analogous to something already done in nature. Yes, that's an unfounded statement based only on this occasion. Shame it me took me fifteen posts to get my point across.
Yes, but meanwhile the ice melting under the water level is actually lowering the water level because the ice took up more volumn than the volumn of water displaced. In fact the upper parts increases exactly the water level as much as the lower part decreases it.
God I can't believe I actually have to explain that.
Ok, maybe I didn't explain my thoughts well enough, which I know is prone to happen.
The analogy is as follows:
Nodes in the traveling salesman algorithm are akin to a ring of popular related websites. Traveling Salesman wants to find a way to minimize the distance required to travel to each node. Web Page Entanglement(WPE) wants to find a way to minimize the number of direct links (paths) between somehow related popular nodes.
"Ants" work by testing each link, mostly following the shortest known path, but sometimes branch out to see if there is a shorter unknown path.
WPE is similar because if users from a go to b, and users from b goto c, then naturally there will be some that go directly from a to c, which will rise to be a popular link, and thus a's links are more "optimized" to link to other popular somehow related websites.
I find the similarities quite apparent. Perhaps you should open your mind and realize that they are quite possibly not ~100% unrelated. Besides none of the other replies to this thread have sided with you.
I would like to hear from anybody that does side with mosch, because I may be wrong and I think it is a virture to assume that one is not correct. A virtue more people should adhere to.
I may not have gotten the exact idea down, but yes a very good approximative traveling salesman algorithm is based on ant behavior.
Do some research here
for some undergrads that used the idea learned from
here(pdf)
(Which are link i got from a two minute perusal on google for "traveling salesman ants")
Please have an idea what you are talking about next time.
Here's the abstract from the latter source.
We describe an artificial ant colony capable of solving the traveling salesman problem (TSP).
Ants of the artificial colony are able to generate successively shorter feasible tours by using
information accumulated in the form of a pheromone trail deposited on the edges of the TSP graph. Computer simulations demonstrate that the artificial ant colony is capable of generating
good solutions to both symmetric and asymmetric instances of the TSP. The method is an example, like simulated annealing, neural networks, and evolutionary computation, of the
successful use of a natural metaphor to design an optimization algorithm.
Brilliant, I can't believe someone hasn't come up with this before. It reminds me of the traveling salesment implementation that models the way ants work. Most ants go the way most ants go, everyonce and a while some ants stray to find a better path.
If this isn't abused by users, I see the net becoming much more efficient for searching for information. You won't have to wait for the search engines to catch up while looking for the most popular page on a topic, because the best (or should I say most popular) pages on a topic will automatically link to each other based on user flow.
Am I missing something here, or am I right in thinking this will revolutionize the way we surf (that is if enough sites do it.)?
so, what you're saying is, you're lazy and don't want to do your job right.
You give me something that will effectively block or limit all P2P traffic with 100% accuracy. It's freakin' impossible man, especially because the biggest users also know how to get around roadblocks.
it's affect, not effect.
Yes I'm a terrible speller. Sue me.
really? i upload about 100x as much as i download. how is that greedy?
I don't buy your sense of altruism here. I was however targeting users of P2P on networks, where its use will serious degrade performance for other users. If you buy your own bandwidth, then don't come complaining when your ISP comes knocking at your door. Life's not fair, and you know, I really don't feel sorry for you at all. And you? You're probably just proud because you have a lot of quality stuff other people want.
i do it to help other people, and to benefit society by (hopefully) depriving the riaa of income.
What friggin pie in the sky idealism. Benefit society? By sharing music? Are you real? Get off your high horse man.
i guess what you really mean is, 'think about ME for once'.
Yeah, your right, when i don't have enough bandwidth even to do a rlogin to work from home, I feel mad because I look at the traffic, and I'm sure it's 50% P2P. Like I said do whatever with your bandwidth as long as it doesn't effect[sic] mine. I also defend all the other people on my network that are using their bandwidth for better reasons than grabbing their newest favorite artist's album.
Once the rest of society catches up to P2P, they will adjust.
My school just upgraded to a 100Mbps network, and separated dorms and lab access. They spent millions of dollars doing it because PostDocs couldn't reliably access research material. All of this because they couldn't handle the dorms bandwidth. P2P regularly peaks at 50% network usage on the dorm network.
Bandwidth is like hard disk space, no matter how much you have, you'll find a way to fill it. When will networks catch up to P2P? With faster networks P2Pers will just download more faster. Network performance for others will still degrade.
Now if there were a way to ensure a fair division of bandwidth across TCP/IP, I'd have no problem with P2P, just as long as I got my fair share. Until then, I have no problem with people banning P2P software. HTTP/TELNET/FPT/IMAP/POP3 is much more important. P2P is a trivial nicety.
Sure they are scum. I have no doubt in that. But if they can't be free to express their opinion, how do I know who to becareful of? How do I know not to like them and keep my children away from them?
They expose themselves to the world this way, and thus we can keep tabs on them. Yes they use this to spread their hate, but wouldn't you rather know who was behind hate acts, then have some secrative society which nobody can point out?
The KKK didn't advertize much and thus were one of the sucessfuly evilest organizations in the nation. I say if they can speak, then I can here them, and that's the way I want it.
Theres too much piracy and YOU know it. It also sucks up far to much bandwidth. The thin wires that make up the internet are not designed for so much traffic. FairADSL in the uk is al so restricting p2p. But there are a lot of legimate places to get stuff online so stop p2ping, its why DRM/crippled cds/padallium is happening!
If this post is at -1, it means that the mod supports piracy.
Yes your currently at -1, yes I happen to agree with you. As I have stated here
P2P is unfair to other people that are using the network for more valid reasons. By valid reasons I mean work/homework is more important than downloading porn/music etc. I like P2P but untill we can come up with a way to divide bandwidth more fairly, the bandwidth hogs have to go. If you have your own dedicated bandwidth, then by all means, use P2P and leave it on all the time. For the rest of use that are using shared reasources (regular DSL, cable, university dorm networks etc.) P2P is unfair to all others on the network.
Network capacity and bandwidth are two different thing. The teleco all overbuilt network capacity. You need, however, lots of expensive equipment to put data on the lines. Bandwidth is NOT cheap. If you want dedicated bandwitdh be prepared to send ten times the $40 dollars a month for average cable/dsl access. Again, bandwidth is not cheap, it actually quite the opposite.
Otherwise how can you justify people still buying T1's? They are only 1500 kbps. Answer: all of that 1500 kbps is yours and nobody else can bring it down. In your contract it's garunteed that you get 1500.
Cable/DSL networks are shared bandwidth (cable is share in your neighborhood, DSL at the ISP). It makes sense to me that they are trying to be fair bandwidth wise. P2P sucks up bandwidth. Then they get calls from customers that HTTP access is slow. People do work on HTTP. Poeple don't do work on P2P networks. Who is madder when performance sucks?
Thus, then who do ISP cater to? When something has to go, which is it? Yes, P2P
How is P2P progress? I assume that's the point that you are making.
<rant>Way too many people think P2P access is an inalienable right. How many people here couldn't get even lousy HTTP connections because too many people were downloading full length porn movies and programs? As a sysadmin its a major headache to try and deal out bandwidth fairly. If people could use P2P on my network and not decrease my bandwidth to about 10K, then I'd allow it. P2P sucks up all available bandwidth. Until TCP/IP comes up with a more fair bandwidth sharing protocol, I'm with cutting P2P down. It's simply not fair to other people on the network. How can you justify 1000 CS people not being able to compile stuff on our unix server because too many people in the dorms are downloading music?
At my university, P2P accounted for all major slow downs this year, even when taking into account a three day blackout.
I don't care what you do with "your" bandwidth, as long as it doesn't effect mine. All you P2P advocates people are selfish and greedy. How much more responsive would the net be without P2P? Is porn and wharez and music that much of a nessesity?
IPs are starting to increasingly limit all upload material since they can't effictively block P2P traffic. It's simply not fair that I can't run a small personal website simply because a lot of horny P2P need more material
God think about other people for once.
</rant>
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Why are there two source packages? What is the difference? Anyway, I'm off to see if this works, and if it does, you've saved me a hell of a lot of reconfiguring.
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Quite right, I agree. But they can so painlessly redirect huge resources to quality control and bug fixing (the former which is, don't laugh, quite good for the industry as a whole).
Why wouldn't you want to fix what people say is your biggest deterant to implementing windows? Their egos can't be that huge, can they? What the hell are they thinking? Don't they know that they are no longer making gains in marketshare? That fact redmond needs a big philosophy change is an understatement
Think about it, Microsoft could fairly easily (by pouring money) change their OS functionality so that administration and development wise, there would be no clear distinction between MS OS and unicies. They did it with Mac's GUI, why not with unix's CLI? Then who would be around to stop them?
Spend money to fix problems with its software? If they know its poorly coded, why don't they launch an entire other branch dedicated to fixing bugs/product maintenance? It's not like they don't have the money. Throw a billion dollars at .net and windows and see if you can make it better. Hell throw five. They'll still have enough money to run the company for a year without any other income.
As much as we'd all like to think, they people over at Microsoft are not idiots. They have enough money to hire the best and the brightest. They do have some quality products (i.e. those whose securities problems are not much of a problem like games, and i personally like their Intellimouse Optical.).
Can anybody tell me why so many smart people won't see the light of day and dedicate big resources to overcome their biggest drawback?
If you are right, this changes the extire scope of this article. If MS said uhuh, then let them have it.
Yes, tomcat is simple enough to begin using for yourself, but this book aims at the industrial uses of it.
Documentation mostly tells you what a system does. Books (wrox, oreilly) mostly tell you how to set up a system to do what you want it to do, and explain uses that you might not have thought of.
I like and respect the writers for wrox, and they wouldn't write about it if they didn't think it was useful.
If you are thinking about intergrating JSPs or applets into your already existing complex web architechure, then I would probably buy a book that has professtionals outline exactly what to do, and what best practices there are.
Nope, if you read the article you'd see that just the corporate mail servers were blocked (like other posters have already pointed out) Their ISP mail servers we not touched. Nothing gets a point across to a CEO like suddenly having your email blocked.
Hmmm... good point. It is, however, just easier to type "ant". Plus you can put more complicated rules into ant than you can easily achieve with javac.
... the Java equivalent of make and makefiles. (...for those that don't know. They really didn't give a capsule explanation in the review) I personally like to develop java from the commandline, and Ant's conditional compilation (only compiling files that have changes) saves tons of time. Not to mention that it is quite useful in rolling out and configuring products. Even if you use an ide like Forte, it would probably be a good idea and head to the Ant page and see what is all about.
Also, it has become somewhat of the defacto standard in open source Java development.
XML is the portable data format. Java is the portable programming lanuage. Java, IMHO, has more API for dealing with XML than any other language I know. Name some XML programs: Xerces, Xalan, Ant (I know they are all Apache) they're all for Java. I know that there are parsers in C++ and Perl, but if you are using XML, most likely you are using Java.
I believe this was the point of the orginial poster.
" It takes a few days to pick up 98% of any language/tech., a few hours to learn 98% of the commands and interfaces for an OS etc."
I don't know if I agree with that. If you just ment syntax and begining functionality, then yes, but proficiency takes much longer. How can you expect to learn, for instance, the entire Java standard API? You can learn about advanced constructs such as IPCs and threading and networking, but I wouldn't say that you knew 98% of a language, unless you've written programs that take advantage of 98% of the standard libraries.
In regard to OSes, you can't tell me that a windows person has any hope of becoming proficient in a Unix environment in a couple days. A year maybe.
In my resume, I separate the skills that I am proficient in and the skills that I have rudimentary knowledge in. I believe this is wise because what if you read a beginners Java, and in the interview they ask you about syncronized multithreading?
I wouldn't put anything on my resume that I just picked up in a couple days. It only takes one slip up to make you regret that you did put something you know nothing about to make you regret it big time.
Quite right. Catch more details here.
.NET their customers didn't want another server just a couple years later.
Basically they saw that after
He must have been pretty damn good to evade capture and continue to crack 100 sites. Makes me wonder home they caught him. If you are a professional and can break into 100 US military sites, what's to stop you? I figure if you are good enough to crack 10 or twenty without messing up, they are probably not going to catch you.
Anybody have any good stories of catching elusive hackers, or insights into how they might have got him?
Yes, my original post probably shouldn't have been modded up to 5 if I didn't explain the whole Ant TSP-Web Entanglement connection. But I mearly meant the similarity as an aside.
My main point was this could be a much more effective way of finding popularly related websites than searching on a search engine. It struck me as changing the way we surf if enough sites enable it and abuse is minimal.
I guess that only reason I mentioned the Ant implementation wasn't just because I saw some similarities, but it was because it is curious to see a non-natural derived system (Web Entanglement) mirror a natural derived system (Ant implementation of TSP)
It seems that the more we improve CS-things the closer they become analogous to something already done in nature. Yes, that's an unfounded statement based only on this occasion. Shame it me took me fifteen posts to get my point across.
Spank me, I've been bad.
Yes, but meanwhile the ice melting under the water level is actually lowering the water level because the ice took up more volumn than the volumn of water displaced. In fact the upper parts increases exactly the water level as much as the lower part decreases it.
God I can't believe I actually have to explain that.
Ok, maybe I didn't explain my thoughts well enough, which I know is prone to happen.
The analogy is as follows: Nodes in the traveling salesman algorithm are akin to a ring of popular related websites. Traveling Salesman wants to find a way to minimize the distance required to travel to each node. Web Page Entanglement(WPE) wants to find a way to minimize the number of direct links (paths) between somehow related popular nodes.
"Ants" work by testing each link, mostly following the shortest known path, but sometimes branch out to see if there is a shorter unknown path.
WPE is similar because if users from a go to b, and users from b goto c, then naturally there will be some that go directly from a to c, which will rise to be a popular link, and thus a's links are more "optimized" to link to other popular somehow related websites.
I find the similarities quite apparent. Perhaps you should open your mind and realize that they are quite possibly not ~100% unrelated. Besides none of the other replies to this thread have sided with you.
I would like to hear from anybody that does side with mosch, because I may be wrong and I think it is a virture to assume that one is not correct. A virtue more people should adhere to.
-1 Ignorant. I happen to have a degree in CS.
I may not have gotten the exact idea down, but yes a very good approximative traveling salesman algorithm is based on ant behavior.
Do some research here for some undergrads that used the idea learned from here(pdf)
(Which are link i got from a two minute perusal on google for "traveling salesman ants")
Please have an idea what you are talking about next time.
Here's the abstract from the latter source.
We describe an artificial ant colony capable of solving the traveling salesman problem (TSP). Ants of the artificial colony are able to generate successively shorter feasible tours by using information accumulated in the form of a pheromone trail deposited on the edges of the TSP graph. Computer simulations demonstrate that the artificial ant colony is capable of generating good solutions to both symmetric and asymmetric instances of the TSP. The method is an example, like simulated annealing, neural networks, and evolutionary computation, of the successful use of a natural metaphor to design an optimization algorithm.
Brilliant, I can't believe someone hasn't come up with this before. It reminds me of the traveling salesment implementation that models the way ants work. Most ants go the way most ants go, everyonce and a while some ants stray to find a better path.
If this isn't abused by users, I see the net becoming much more efficient for searching for information. You won't have to wait for the search engines to catch up while looking for the most popular page on a topic, because the best (or should I say most popular) pages on a topic will automatically link to each other based on user flow.
Am I missing something here, or am I right in thinking this will revolutionize the way we surf (that is if enough sites do it.)?
so, what you're saying is, you're lazy and don't want to do your job right.
You give me something that will effectively block or limit all P2P traffic with 100% accuracy. It's freakin' impossible man, especially because the biggest users also know how to get around roadblocks.
it's affect, not effect.
Yes I'm a terrible speller. Sue me.
really? i upload about 100x as much as i download. how is that greedy?
I don't buy your sense of altruism here. I was however targeting users of P2P on networks, where its use will serious degrade performance for other users. If you buy your own bandwidth, then don't come complaining when your ISP comes knocking at your door. Life's not fair, and you know, I really don't feel sorry for you at all. And you? You're probably just proud because you have a lot of quality stuff other people want.
i do it to help other people, and to benefit society by (hopefully) depriving the riaa of income.
What friggin pie in the sky idealism. Benefit society? By sharing music? Are you real? Get off your high horse man.
i guess what you really mean is, 'think about ME for once'.
Yeah, your right, when i don't have enough bandwidth even to do a rlogin to work from home, I feel mad because I look at the traffic, and I'm sure it's 50% P2P. Like I said do whatever with your bandwidth as long as it doesn't effect[sic] mine. I also defend all the other people on my network that are using their bandwidth for better reasons than grabbing their newest favorite artist's album.
Once the rest of society catches up to P2P, they will adjust. My school just upgraded to a 100Mbps network, and separated dorms and lab access. They spent millions of dollars doing it because PostDocs couldn't reliably access research material. All of this because they couldn't handle the dorms bandwidth. P2P regularly peaks at 50% network usage on the dorm network.
Bandwidth is like hard disk space, no matter how much you have, you'll find a way to fill it. When will networks catch up to P2P? With faster networks P2Pers will just download more faster. Network performance for others will still degrade.
Now if there were a way to ensure a fair division of bandwidth across TCP/IP, I'd have no problem with P2P, just as long as I got my fair share. Until then, I have no problem with people banning P2P software. HTTP/TELNET/FPT/IMAP/POP3 is much more important. P2P is a trivial nicety.
Sure they are scum. I have no doubt in that. But if they can't be free to express their opinion, how do I know who to becareful of? How do I know not to like them and keep my children away from them?
They expose themselves to the world this way, and thus we can keep tabs on them. Yes they use this to spread their hate, but wouldn't you rather know who was behind hate acts, then have some secrative society which nobody can point out?
The KKK didn't advertize much and thus were one of the sucessfuly evilest organizations in the nation. I say if they can speak, then I can here them, and that's the way I want it.
Theres too much piracy and YOU know it. It also sucks up far to much bandwidth. The thin wires that make up the internet are not designed for so much traffic. FairADSL in the uk is al so restricting p2p. But there are a lot of legimate places to get stuff online so stop p2ping, its why DRM/crippled cds/padallium is happening!
If this post is at -1, it means that the mod supports piracy.
Yes your currently at -1, yes I happen to agree with you. As I have stated here P2P is unfair to other people that are using the network for more valid reasons. By valid reasons I mean work/homework is more important than downloading porn/music etc. I like P2P but untill we can come up with a way to divide bandwidth more fairly, the bandwidth hogs have to go. If you have your own dedicated bandwidth, then by all means, use P2P and leave it on all the time. For the rest of use that are using shared reasources (regular DSL, cable, university dorm networks etc.) P2P is unfair to all others on the network.
Network capacity and bandwidth are two different thing. The teleco all overbuilt network capacity. You need, however, lots of expensive equipment to put data on the lines. Bandwidth is NOT cheap. If you want dedicated bandwitdh be prepared to send ten times the $40 dollars a month for average cable/dsl access. Again, bandwidth is not cheap, it actually quite the opposite.
Otherwise how can you justify people still buying T1's? They are only 1500 kbps. Answer: all of that 1500 kbps is yours and nobody else can bring it down. In your contract it's garunteed that you get 1500.
Cable/DSL networks are shared bandwidth (cable is share in your neighborhood, DSL at the ISP). It makes sense to me that they are trying to be fair bandwidth wise. P2P sucks up bandwidth. Then they get calls from customers that HTTP access is slow. People do work on HTTP. Poeple don't do work on P2P networks. Who is madder when performance sucks?
Thus, then who do ISP cater to? When something has to go, which is it? Yes, P2P
How is P2P progress? I assume that's the point that you are making.
<rant>Way too many people think P2P access is an inalienable right. How many people here couldn't get even lousy HTTP connections because too many people were downloading full length porn movies and programs? As a sysadmin its a major headache to try and deal out bandwidth fairly. If people could use P2P on my network and not decrease my bandwidth to about 10K, then I'd allow it. P2P sucks up all available bandwidth. Until TCP/IP comes up with a more fair bandwidth sharing protocol, I'm with cutting P2P down. It's simply not fair to other people on the network. How can you justify 1000 CS people not being able to compile stuff on our unix server because too many people in the dorms are downloading music?
At my university, P2P accounted for all major slow downs this year, even when taking into account a three day blackout.
I don't care what you do with "your" bandwidth, as long as it doesn't effect mine. All you P2P advocates people are selfish and greedy. How much more responsive would the net be without P2P? Is porn and wharez and music that much of a nessesity?
IPs are starting to increasingly limit all upload material since they can't effictively block P2P traffic. It's simply not fair that I can't run a small personal website simply because a lot of horny P2P need more material
God think about other people for once. </rant>
You need exellent kharma, sorry, keep whoring :)
+1 Informatve.
Why are there two source packages? What is the difference? Anyway, I'm off to see if this works, and if it does, you've saved me a hell of a lot of reconfiguring.
Thanks for bringing back memories of high school. I learned extended ASCII just so I could obfuscate porn folders on the network. :-)