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choka writes "I came across a new Mozilla deriative known as Ghostzilla. It has the ability to open and hide the browser within most applications with simple mouse gestures, ensuring no one will discover what por^H^H^Hsites you visit in office ;) (i.e., if your sysadmins don't check the proxy logs...)"

438 comments

  1. Great! by FortKnox · · Score: 5, Funny

    Congrats! Now Mozilla will be on that hot list of stuff not able to download and use at the office!

    GOOD THINKING!

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    Good quote, too many chars. Seriously, the slashdot 120 char limit sucks!
    1. Re:Great! by Xaoswolf · · Score: 5, Funny
      It's too late, the slashdot effect has excorcized this ghost.

      All we need now is a short woman to say, "This network is clean."

    2. Re:Great! by SledgeHBK · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      troll.

    3. Re:Great! by FortKnox · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Yes! Called a troll by a troll.

      Next time remember to hit that "posy anonymously" checkbox.

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      Good quote, too many chars. Seriously, the slashdot 120 char limit sucks!
    4. Re:Great! by locarecords.com · · Score: 1

      I need this on my Mac! Clever thinking by the Moz boys and girls!

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    5. Re:Great! by JohnA · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Uh... shouldn't that should be "post" instead of "posy"? ;-)

    6. Re:Great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, he meant "Pussy anonymously"

    7. Re:Great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Account for domain ghostzilla.com has been suspended

    8. Re:Great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, he meant "Anal sex anonymously"

      (posted anonymously)

    9. Re:Great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, think about this folks, you can browse all you want as long as SSH isn't blocked! If it is then just setup a proxy at home, and establish a connection via SSL, and boom, there you go! But that's just IMHO :)

  2. wonder if they'll get sued by Demi Moore by asscroft · · Score: 0, Troll

    and the godzilla IPOs

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  3. Great, but by endeitzslash · · Score: 3, Funny

    where can I hide my Cheryl Tiegs poster?

    1. Re:Great, but by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2
      where can I hide my Cheryl Tiegs poster?
      Ahhh.... A man of my generation!
      --
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      Never been known to fail..."
    2. Re:Great, but by CuratorTom · · Score: 1

      I always hid mine behind a flag draped on the wall. parents thought I was so patriotic, rather than just so damn horny!

    3. Re:Great, but by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 2

      What about the Farrah Fawcett poster?

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    4. Re:Great, but by dousette · · Score: 5, Funny

      How about in the trunk of your Delorian so you can send it back to 1985 where it belongs? :^)

    5. Re:Great, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If only I had a Delorean and Cheryl Tiegs when she was hot.

    6. Re:Great, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try hiding it in the 70's along with disco (which happens to suck).

    7. Re:Great, but by nyseal · · Score: 1

      HEEEEEYYY--- I happen to like the '80's! Especially when the only porn images of Cheryl Tiegs were bitmap images displayed on a green screen on a Apple ][e! Now THAT was hot! Too bad I had to boot first; but it was worth it! OUCH!

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  4. Devious by trevinofunk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is one of the most devious things I've seen in a while! I love it!!. It reminds me of old shareware PC games, where you could hit the F9 key to escape to a DOS shell, so you wouln't get caught at work. Hugo's House of Horrors anyone?

    1. Re:Devious by idfrsr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      IIRC I think that chessmaster 1000 also had this feature that brought a dummy financial statement on F9

      useful to say the least. The big stuff makes good software but its the little things that make a program great.

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      "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away" -Tom Waits
    2. Re:Devious by The+Turd+Report · · Score: 2, Informative

      I forget the game, but I remember one where you would hit the f9 key (the docs called it the 'Boss Key') and a spreadsheet and a graph would come up on screen.

    3. Re:Devious by Per+Wigren · · Score: 5, Informative

      I forget the game, but I remember one where you would hit the f9 key (the docs called it the 'Boss Key') and a spreadsheet and a graph would come up on screen.

      It was the Leisure Suit Larry series. Maybe other Sierra-games also..

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    4. Re:Devious by flippet · · Score: 1
      Ah, the return of the "Boss" key...

      Phil, just me

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    5. Re:Devious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Incidently, most recent porn dvds have a "work" feature that does the same.

    6. Re:Devious by Punk+Walrus · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Click and Clack, the old Tappit brothers who host Car Talk on NPR was one of the first truly interactive web sites out there for a PBS show. Ever since the beginning, they have had a "Boss" button to click so it would load your browser with something official and work-looking. Of course, any detailed look at these "work-looking" documents shows a bit of humor, like ratio of donuts eaten per producer per show, graphs showing increase in mailbombs sent to the office, and the precent of NPR listeners who wish they'd never heard of their show.

      I always thought Slashdot should have a boss button.

      [ Boss Button]

    7. Re:Devious by Dephex+Twin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      On my Mac I remember there were programs that would take you to a fake Excel-looking spreadsheet or to some screen of "loading data" with different progress bars and whatnot. Can't remember which games these were though.

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    8. Re:Devious by fishbowl · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I always wondered what would be more suspicious,
      a game like rogue, or a dos prompt?

      There was one such game that had a boss mode which looked exactly like lotus 1-2-3 r2.2

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    9. Re:Devious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, if I recall the spreadsheet was a chart comparing condom strength vs. their colors (or such). So I hope the boss did not take a good look at it (unless you happened to be in that business).
      In any case just use lynx, that blends in pretty well with my C code :) (And what you can not read on lynx is not worth reading...)

    10. Re:Devious by dhsmith · · Score: 2, Informative

      Windows Solitaire had a boss key in the version that came with one of the Win2K release candidates. When you hit Esc solitaire minimized to a taskbar button with the Excel logo that said 'budget.xls'.

    11. Re:Devious by Dave2+Wickham · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hehehe... I remember Space Quest III. You would press the boss key and have something like this popup:

      "So you don't want your boss to know you've been
      playing Space Quest III for X minutes?

      Tough!"

      Well, I was about 5 when I played it, so forgive me for not remembering :P.

    12. Re:Devious by Dave2+Wickham · · Score: 1

      Hehehe... I remember Space Quest III. You would press the boss key and have something like this popup:

      "So you don't want your boss to know you've been
      playing Space Quest III for X minutes?

      Tough!"

      Well, I was about 5 when I played it, so forgive me for not remembering :P.

      Again, I've tried posting this from Linux/Moz, WinXP/Moz, now WinXP/IE... Only this one works...

    13. Re:Devious by Arcturax · · Score: 5, Funny

      All well and good so long as you are a beancounter. But it looks rather suspicious if you are a coder. After all no coder worth his salt could stay awake in front of a sheet of financials.

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    14. Re:Devious by phorm · · Score: 1

      The one that asmused me was in (I think) Space Question. You could hit the "Boss Key", but then it lost your game and you had to save. (evil buggers)

    15. Re:Devious by xanadu-xtroot.com · · Score: 1

      IIRC the old Dark Castle game on the older MACs had a similar thing as well.

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      I'm just a mortal with potential of a super man.
    16. Re:Devious by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      " It reminds me of old shareware PC games, where you could hit the F9 key to escape to a DOS shell, so you wouln't get caught at work..."

      One of the Sierra games (Uhh.. I think it was Leisure Suit Larry 3, but don't quote me on that) had a boss mode that'd throw up a fake spreadsheet and pie-chart. That was cool until you tried to get out of it, only to be met with a message that says "no, you should be working now." Heh you had to quit the game and reload it.

    17. Re:Devious by rikkards · · Score: 1

      Back when everyone was going nuts hiring (remember then?) Cisco had a link on their recruiting page that would link to the top 10 things an effective employee does

    18. Re:Devious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      I think it was called the 'Boss Key'

    19. Re:Devious by tdm8 · · Score: 1

      The Larry Bird vs. Dr. J game One on One would switch to a spreadsheet with information on National Meatloaf consumption. Hope the boss didn't look too closely.

    20. Re:Devious by gaudior · · Score: 2
      Burning Monkey Solitaire does this with a Command-B. It puts up a progress indicator that says things like:

      • Violently Opposing Thumb
      • Re-evaluating the whole organ-grinding thing
      • Visualizing Boss as a Blue Butt Ape.

      I love that kind of stuff.

    21. Re:Devious by zbuffered · · Score: 1

      I always thought Slashdot should have a boss button.

      I don't need one.

      Remember that article about the Worm with the EULA? Well, today, my company got that. Mailstorm. It spread like a regular e-mail virus would. 10,000 users x an average of 100 e-mails per user = a lot of mail to our poor servers. I had someone read me the link in the e-mail (people called in saying "I just got 15 e-mails about a greeting card") and I remembered it from Slashdot. So I looked up the article and found the link to Symantec's website about the worm and figured out what was going on. They ended up adding the installed executable to the virus definitions(not my dept, thank you), and all the users had to do was reboot, and their machines would be cleaned.

      Thanks Slashdot. Proud to spend my time at work with you. :)

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    22. Re:Devious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      My favorite was California Raisins (hey, I was about 5 too). Press the boss key, and the PC speaker goes off like a siren, and big flashing letters pop up on the screen:

      "HEY BOSS
      I'M PLAYING A GAME!"

    23. Re:Devious by Weirsbaski · · Score: 0

      I always thought Slashdot should have a boss button.

      And you know what "boss" spelled backwards is.
      Double-S, O, B.

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    24. Re:Devious by dubiousmike · · Score: 2

      I tried Ghostzilla a few weeks ago at the office.

      Unfotunately, when you use the trial version, you get a very untimely nag screen to buy the full version which pretty much destroy the usefullness of hiding the fact that you are surfing.

      Also, I found the "movement" you need to make with the mouse to be something I couldn't do naturally (ie - look like I am trying to hide something).

    25. Re:Devious by plover · · Score: 2
      The "Boss" key in Leisure Suit Larry popped up a financial-looking chart showing condom use.

      Usually.

      But sometimes, very infrequently, it would decide to bring up a flashing screen that had in 72 point flashing letters: "HEY BOSS I'M PLAYING A GAME!!"

      I loved that feature.

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      John
  5. This will work great... by LordHunter317 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Until some idiot accidently embeds the wrong figure within his PowerPoint presentation.

    At the board meeting:
    "As you can see in this full-page figure..."

    "Well, something about that figure is certainly full..."

  6. Damn, I need that one. by Railroader · · Score: 5, Funny

    as I sit here at work on a Friday afternoon reading slashdot.

    1. Re:Damn, I need that one. by vsprintf · · Score: 5, Funny

      as I sit here at work on a Friday afternoon reading slashdot.

      You say that like it's a bad thing. Remember, this is "News for Nerds". You're just staying abreast of the latest technological happenings. Hmm . . . probably shouldn't use abreast in a post here . . . You're just trying get on top of things . . . oh, screw it.

    2. Re:Damn, I need that one. by Col.+Panic · · Score: 1

      I actually put reading /. on my timesheet as "Research - Technology News"

    3. Re:Damn, I need that one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Friday? What? Friday? *looks at calendar*
      today is not friday....

  7. Simple mouse Gesture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Speaking of simple mouse gestures, the site has been slashdotted by a simple click! :)

    1. Re:Simple mouse Gesture by krog · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Speaking further of mouse gestures, moving your pointer all the way left, then all the way right, then all the way left again is a poor choice of gesture. It takes way too long to be useful, esp. if you're using a trackpad. Perhaps a R-L-R-L mouse button combination, or even just a keystroke would be a better choice.

    2. Re:Simple mouse Gesture by ryman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The problem with those is that they would most likely be intercepted and interpreted that Ghostzilla is running within the window of. Mouse movements are one of the few input functions that most programs don't use for command execution.

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    3. Re:Simple mouse Gesture by mhesseltine · · Score: 5, Funny

      How about up-down-up-down-left-right-left-right-B-A?

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    4. Re:Simple mouse Gesture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, select, start.

      Don't you know anything?

    5. Re:Simple mouse Gesture by mhesseltine · · Score: 2

      I thought that looked wrong. No wonder my Contra cheat wasn't working!!

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    6. Re:Simple mouse Gesture by self+assembled+struc · · Score: 2

      actually, it was
      up-down-up-down-left-right-left-right-b-a-b-a-st ar t
      well, for most of you losers out there.

      i was all about
      up-down-up-down-left-right-left-right-b-a-b -a-sele ct-start

    7. Re:Simple mouse Gesture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not if you were playing with yourself, it's not...

    8. Re:Simple mouse Gesture by Mike+Schiraldi · · Score: 2

      No, select and start are not part of the code. The code is uuddlrlrBA. After that, you can do whatever you want. For example, uuddlrlrballldddbbaabba and then start.

    9. Re:Simple mouse Gesture by Mike+Schiraldi · · Score: 2

      Thank god, someone else who knows that select and start aren't part of the code. For some reason, i have a pet peeve over people who add "start" or "select start" to the end, which are not part of the code.

      Though you screwed up the second and third buttons.

    10. Re:Simple mouse Gesture by glenstar · · Score: 4, Funny

      It is certainly a good thing that they used mouse gestures instead of an emacs interface: C-x C-g C-t C-c ....

    11. Re:Simple mouse Gesture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      actually, it was
      up-down-up-down-left-right-left-right-b-a-b-a -star t
      well, for most of you losers out there.

      i was all about
      up-down-up-down-left-right-left-right-b-a-b -a-sele ct-start


      Too bad that's wrong. Nice try though. It's uuddlrlrBA.

  8. Uhh... by Vaulter · · Score: 5, Funny


    But what if your hands aren't on your mouse?

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    1. Re:Uhh... by Kenja · · Score: 5, Funny

      Then odds are that no hand gesture in the world is going to save your job.

      --

      "Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
    2. Re:Uhh... by Uma+Thurman · · Score: 0, Troll

      You zip your pants then, silly!

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    3. Re:Uhh... by Xaoswolf · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't know, it just depends on who your boss is, and whether or not he/she has any positions that needed filled...

    4. Re:Uhh... by Stonehand · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Got any openings I could fill?"
      -- the prostitutes in New Reno, in _Fallout 2_.

      (Yes, these were supposedly _female_ prostitutes... *shrug*)

      --
      Only the dead have seen the end of war.
    5. Re:Uhh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your innuendo is priceless.

    6. Re:Uhh... by akiy · · Score: 5, Funny
      Then odds are that no hand gesture in the world is going to save your job.

      You're obviously not a Jedi.

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    7. Re:Uhh... by Kenja · · Score: 5, Funny

      I dont think even Obi' could pull off "this is not the pantsless geek you're looking for"

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      "Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
    8. Re:Uhh... by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Even more of a give-away than the screen is that goofy smerk on your face.

    9. Re:Uhh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok, we've heard about the hide gesture, but does the browser appear when you make certain other hand gestures?

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    10. Re:Uhh... by DaytonCIM · · Score: 1

      ROTFLMAO!

    11. Re:Uhh... by jpetts · · Score: 1

      Then odds are that no hand gesture in the world is going to save your job.

      But I can sure as hell find a gesture that'll lose me the job!!

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    12. Re:Uhh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      You're obviously a virgin.

    13. Re:Uhh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes he could, because he doesn't wear pants, so it would be perfectly normal.

    14. Re:Uhh... by Da+Masta · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well the idea is to keep one hand on the mouse and the other on your, um, joystick.

      Of course, the problem comes when you remember to use one gesture, and forget to stop using the other one.

      To say the least, it'll be tough explaining to your boss why you're masturbating to an Excel chart. ;-)

    15. Re:Uhh... by Stalyn · · Score: 1

      it's more like..

      "this is not a penis in my hand... it is a lightsaber"

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    16. Re:Uhh... by JonnyElvis42 · · Score: 1

      explaining to your boss why you're masturbating to an Excel chart.

      "I'm taking night classes... learning to be an accountant"

    17. Re:Uhh... by Uma+Thurman · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Someone moderated me as a troll! I bet they are not an Uma Thurman fan. How would they like it if I were to sit on their face? I bet they'd just hate that.

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      This is America, damnit. Speak Spanish!
    18. Re:Uhh... by newr00tic · · Score: 2, Funny

      That kid in The Matrix(tm)s waiting room at the Oracle would say: "There is no pr0n"..


      TheBoss: "ok.." *walks away*
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      A horse can't be sick, you know, even if he wants to.
    19. Re:Uhh... by mccalli · · Score: 2
      I find your lack of faith....disturbing.

      Cheers,
      Ian

    20. Re:Uhh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You boss usually goes around looking for pantless geeks?

      What kind of freaks work at your company since it requires this surveilance?

      Now smile!

    21. Re:Uhh... by nyseal · · Score: 1

      Well, in that case....you're better off just finishing the 'game'. HEHE

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    22. Re:Uhh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A long vacant executive slot?

    23. Re:Uhh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or if your boss decides to join you.

    24. Re:Uhh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Parent deserves 'funniest post of the week' award...

    25. Re:Uhh... by mike3411 · · Score: 1

      You sir have been watching too much porn.

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    26. Re:Uhh... by DesertRat66 · · Score: 1

      Well if your in marketing I doubt an explination would be necessary.

    27. Re:Uhh... by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
      Isn't it strange how Darth Vader always went for the throat? Just once I'd like to see him make the squeeze gesture, and see an Imperial flunky's eyes and legs cross. (Probably far more effective at enforcing discipline, and without the replacement costs.)

      "Apology accepted Capt. Needa"
      ".. thank you .. lord vader .."

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    28. Re:Uhh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Math is one sexy bitch"

    29. Re:Uhh... by elbobo · · Score: 2

      "The sales! Look at the sales! I am so HARD for this project!"

  9. links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Thats why I use links. Perfect for viewing websites that you shouldn't be, with the added bonus that if you run it remotely through an ssh connection, the sysadmins *CAN'T* look up your history in the proxie logs.

    1. Re:links by Qzukk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Text-based browsing is the way to go for "clandestine" browsing sessions. Especially if your job consists of programming anyway, from a distance it all looks the same.

      Even better, if you're a web developer, just browse in source form, then nobody at all will be able to tell you're slacking off instead of working on the new internet site.

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    2. Re:links by dcavens · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't a better solution just be to log into your ADSL machine at home, and run mozilla over an X session?

      Shouldn't be that slow for text heavy sites.. For pictures, maybe not.

    3. Re:links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Surfing pr0n with links might not be my idea of fun. ;)

    4. Re:links by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 5, Informative
      if you run it remotely through an ssh connection, the sysadmins *CAN'T* look up your history in the proxie logs.
      Ah, but that's where ngrep comes in! :^)
    5. Re:links by ivan256 · · Score: 1

      Just curious, how do you propose that you use ngrep to detect http traffic tunneled through an encrypted ssh tunnel?

    6. Re:links by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 2

      I was actually thinking of standard telnet sessions (mostly because our firewall here at work doesn't allow SSH data in or out, so I am forced to use telnet). It's times like this that one wishes there was a "retract comment" button on Slashdot. :^)

    7. Re:links by LordHunter317 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Just run an SSH server on port 23 instead of port 22. That's what I do. Try the -p option.

    8. Re:links by Wee · · Score: 2
      Shouldn't be that slow for text heavy sites.. For pictures, maybe not

      Run Opera over an ssh session. Use it with image loading turned off, and if you see a site with images you'd like to see, you just hit the 'g' key to load the images. After you've seen what you want to see, hit 'g' again, and image loading is off again.

      -B

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    9. Re:links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So do you work at FSU?

    10. Re:links by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 2

      The problem is that I am the client, and the SSH server I am wanting to connect to is only on port 22.

    11. Re:links by Bobzibub · · Score: 2

      What kind of firewall would do that!?!?!? = )
      -b

    12. Re:links by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 5, Informative
      Wouldn't a better solution just be to log into your ADSL machine at home, and run mozilla over an X session?

      Even better, use the -D option on newer versions of OpenSSH to do dynamic port forwarding. Then point Mozilla or Netscape's SOCKS4 proxy to the port you specify. For example: ssh -D 1080 remotehost.com -l blah Then just point mozilla to a socks4 port of 1080 on localhost. Everything you browse will then be proxied over your SSH connection and appear to come from your ADSL host to remote sites. Works pretty well in my experience without the hassle and overhead of setting up a squid proxy or running a full X application on a remote host.

    13. Re:links by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 2
      So do you work at FSU?
      Nope, I'm just a student there...
    14. Re:links by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 2
      What kind of firewall would do that!?!?!? =)
      A very paranoid one that I have no control over... :^)
    15. Re:links by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 2

      On second thought, wouldn't it be possible (as a sysadmin) to just obtain the user's private key right off their computer? Wouldn't this allow decryption of enough of the SSH authentication stream to allow the data stream to be decrypted as well?

    16. Re:links by LordHunter317 · · Score: 2

      But if you control the server as well (I'm assuming its like one at home), then you can go home and tell it to run on port 23.

    17. Re:links by Publicus · · Score: 4, Funny

      A firewall that passes telnet and not ssh? That's absolutely moronic! That's like defending against an foreigh threat to the United States by stripping Americans' of all their civil liberties!

      You know, really moronic!!!

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    18. Re:links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      muff.cunt.cz??

    19. Re:links by Quixadhal · · Score: 2

      True, although viewing those pr0n^H^H^H^Hsites might require you to sit back from the monitor a ways (assuming you're using aalib) -- which itself might attract attention.

      Of course, if your sysadmin has installed a VNC server, you're hosed anyways.

    20. Re:links by pigpen_ · · Score: 2, Informative

      If they cracked the passphrase for the key, then yes. But otherwise I don't think so.

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      Zambozay! My brain must've been eatin' a sandwich!
    21. Re:links by Casca · · Score: 2

      Not sure what good ngrep does if you are using ssh, unless someone has figured out a way to break 3DES encryption on the fly...

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      Casca
    22. Re:links by Planesdragon · · Score: 1

      A firewall that passes telnet and not ssh? That's absolutely moronic! That's like defending against an foreigh threat to the United States by stripping Americans' of all their civil liberties!

      You know, really moronic!!!


      Side note: When the foreign threat is using the American's civil liberties to get around the defenses that are otherwise in place, some checks on the CL are the only effective defense for them.

      This creates a new threat, (corruption), which in turn requires its own check (delayed high-profie accountability.)

      And telnet lets the employer see what happens, while ssh doesn't. If external telnet queries can't get at anything, then there's no reason to block them; if internal ssh queries CAN hide what the employee does at the company with the company's equipment from the company, and there's no compelling reason to allow ssh, ssh might as well be blocked.

      Both are hardly moronic--a bit obscure and harsh, but not "moronic."

    23. Re:links by stankyho · · Score: 1

      I work as a Web Developer/Designer so I can call all of my surfing at work "research".
      Plus my boss has very poor eyesite anyway. He uses a 19" flat-panel at 800x600 and still has to wear glasses and be 6' from the monitor.

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    24. Re:links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I once worked for a company that allowed telnet and blocked SSH. Their excuse was that "If we allowed SSH, someone could put a file outside our network and we wouldn't be able to track it."

      I didn't work there very long. Of course, this same company got hit with a $100M-plus judgement for stealing trade secrets from their competitors, so they weren't the brightest bulbs in the lamp.

    25. Re:links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      6 feet away?

    26. Re:links by DickBreath · · Score: 2

      A firewall that passes telnet and not ssh? That's absolutely moronic!

      I have a friend who works at a giant telecom corporation. This is exactly what their firewall does.

      He can't ssh to his Linux box as home. (Newbie, btw.) I helped him to rtfm, and to edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config so that ssh would listen on BOTH 22 and 23. (He doesn't run telnet, so why not ssh on both ports.) Now he can SSH from work to the telnet port on his box at home.

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      I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
    27. Re:links by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 2

      Nope, it's a school SSH server... I suppose I could set one up at home on port 23 though, SSH into that, and then SSH into the one at school... Might be slow, but hey it would be secure!

    28. Re:links by msfodder · · Score: 1

      Kill the client..Kill the client..
      That's from one of the WB cartoons, and I'll
      probably be prosecuted. of course they weren't
      prosecuted for cartoonizing the wagner theme, so
      who knows..

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    29. Re:links by arglesnaf · · Score: 1

      Check out Net Intercept. They say with asymetric keys, but I assume they meant symetric.
      Read the PDF they provide here.
      Net Intercept

    30. Re:links by msfodder · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well if I'm a competent sysadmin I know exactly what traffic is going where, when and how. If you attempt to use external dns I redirect it, if you attempt to connect to ssh I block it,if you hit port 80, it goes to the proxy,etc.. You have a client and I have the power. If you want to play I'll route you into a hole and wait for you to complain so I can show you the logs. If you get really stupid I'll have your job and a pat on the back. Don't fuck with sysadmins.

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      ..Free Live Free...
    31. Re:links by jerdenn · · Score: 2

      On second thought, wouldn't it be possible (as a sysadmin) to just obtain the user's private key right off their computer?

      That's exactly why I keep my SSH and PGP keys on a floppy. It's slow, but safe.

      -jerdenn

    32. Re:links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't think of any way a firewall can block ssh while allowing other protocols through.

      Except possibly to only allow through applications that authenticate appropriately. But then, the applications would have to have a key inside them. Back to square one.

      Only allowing content the firewall can parse? Expensive, and anyway it would be entirely possible to tunnel SSH over, say, BASE64 encoded mime.

      At some point it just gets ridiculous. Sysadmins that paranoid are doing their company a disservice.

      The more they seek total control the more workstations slip through their fingers.

    33. Re:links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those who would give up liberty for safety .....

    34. Re:links by Zebbers · · Score: 3, Funny

      Don't fuck with sysadmins.

      We all know thats the last thing you sysadmins need to worry about....you won't be getting fucked anytime soon.

    35. Re:links by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2
      On second thought, wouldn't it be possible (as a sysadmin) to just obtain the user's private key right off their computer?
      That's exactly why I keep my SSH and PGP keys on a floppy. It's slow, but safe.
      This is why flash-memory keyfobs were invented!
      --
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      Never been known to fail..."
    36. Re:links by Chandon+Seldon · · Score: 2

      Heh.

      If I was working where you admin, I'd take that as a challenge.

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      -- The act of censorship is always worse than whatever is being censored. Always.
    37. Re:links by ivan256 · · Score: 2

      The user's private key is just for authentication. The data keys are seperate. To decrypt the outgoing data, the sysadmin would require the private key that was generated by the remote server. At best he could hope to pull the local key out of the clients system memory and decrypt the incoming stream, and if he can pull that off without the user noticing, he could probably get a job that pays much better than sysadmin.

    38. Re:links by ProfessorPuke · · Score: 2

      You're not safe at all. The sysadmin owns the computer you're running ssh on; he can install a modified ssh to log keys elsewhere.
      Even if you run your own ssh executable from a floppy too, he can decide to log all removable media-accesses or whatever else he wants. (In many situations, sysadmins should lock down employee's computers so that only a select list of approved programs is executable)

      The ONLY way to run a safe encrypted session from someone else's computer is to use a constantly-expiring key. Like one generated by a smartcard with an LCD readout. (That is the standard used by many big high-tech corporations)

      Even if you do this, you're still not 100% secure. They can't log your ssh key and use it later, but if the ssh executable on the box is trojaned, it could read data during your session, and even send extra data without your knowledge (prehaps even enough to change your password, or install a security hole on your remote machine).

      Running your own ssh off of a floppy might help, but that's STILL not immune to corruption. You have no guarantee that the operating system is really running the code you asked for. I could imagine installing a special check in the executable loader that, when told to run "a:/putty.exe", secretly calls up a bugged version.

      Trust no one!

      I expect that in the future, people whose data is very important (and those who think it is) will carry powerful PDAs to use when connecting to their network from an untrusted site (which will include all "Internet Cafes" and airport/hotel workspaces). They'll plug into TCP via USB or RJ45 or something, because only if you have physical control over the encrypting application can you trust it.

      (But then, you also have to watch for high-resolution ceiling cameras monitoring your stylus-strokes...)

    39. Re:links by shird · · Score: 2

      Does anyone know the reason why this was removed from RedHat 8? It wa included in 7.x and maybe 6, but was surprisingly absent from 8, even though lynx was present. I was personally annoyed by this, as links is my favourite text based browser, and it was quite hard to find to download. (try searching for 'links browser' and see how many irrelevant hits turn up :P)

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    40. Re:links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some admins would thought that they could let telnet go because ssh transmits encrypted message which they could spy on at lunch time. However, they failed to realize that ssh could be configure to use on port 23, and any tunnel could do the same effect...etc. :)

    41. Re:links by Kevin+DeGraaf · · Score: 1

      [if you run it remotely through an ssh connection, the sysadmins *CAN'T* look up your history in the proxie logs.]

      Ah, but that's where ngrep comes in! :^)

      You're an idiot. It's called SECURE shell for a reason. Sniff all the packets you want; they're encrypted, genius...

      --
      We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked.
    42. Re:links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      apt-get install links. Yes, it does work in RH8 too.

    43. Re:links by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 2
      You're an idiot. It's called SECURE shell for a reason. Sniff all the packets you want; they're encrypted, genius...
      Read my other posts... If you are a sysadmin, obtaining a user's SSH private key would be as easy as getting onto the user's computer (perhaps with a Linux boot disk) and then FTPing their private key to your own machine. At that point, you could brute force their password and have access to all future encrypted streams.
    44. Re:links by snake_dad · · Score: 2

      One word: keystrokelogger. Or is that two words? Oh well..

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    45. Re:links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >> 6 feet away?

      Yeah, he's got that weird kind of far-sightedness that follows the inverse-square law.

    46. Re:links by named · · Score: 1

      You can run an ssh server as a plain old user. It'll only let you authenticate as yourself, though I don't see that being a problem. I did it for quite a while at my school. You just gotta get the disk space for the compile (/tmp is your friend) and unlimit the cpu time so that your daemon doesn't die unexpectedly on you mid-session.

    47. Re:links by jerdenn · · Score: 1

      Ok, point taken. I'm not safe, but I am incrementally safer than just leaving the key on the hard drive.

      I do keep putty on the floppy, but you are correct that I am still susceptible to several other attacks.

      jerdenn

  10. Quite apropos by MrEd · · Score: 4, Funny
    Something about their web server seems pretty 'ghostly' right now.

    ..... hey, somebody had to say it...

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    Wah!

    1. Re:Quite apropos by microbob · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Damn you MrEd, you beat me to it.

    2. Re:Quite apropos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ..... hey, somebody had to say it...

      No, that should have been left unsaid.

  11. screw ups.. by grub · · Score: 2, Funny


    Leaving that on a shared laptop, your boss is giving a presentation for a room of investors and with one deft flick of the wrist.. goatse.cx pops up.

    That would rock.

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    Trolling is a art,
  12. The Difference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    if your sysadmins don't check the proxy logs

    There is a distinct difference in a sysadmin who checks the log and rats you out, and a sysadmin who checks the log and gives you a few tips on a really good asian schoolgirl site. :)

    1. Re:The Difference by Cervantes · · Score: 5, Funny
      As a former and future sysadmin, I take offence at that!

      Everyone knows that good sysadmins check the proxy logs to find the really good asian schoolgirl sites!

      (along with passwords. Thanks, Microsoft Autocomplete!)

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      If I knew the wedgies I gave you back in 6th grade would have resulted in this . . . I might have taken a moments pause.
    2. Re:The Difference by Mandi+Walls · · Score: 3, Funny
      that is so true.

      i recommend grepping for the IP of an Anime-addicted graphics artist's machine in the logs...

      cause, ah, he needs to have web access so he can get, ah, ideas...and, ah, source images! yeah! that's it!

    3. Re:The Difference by Mr.+Flibble · · Score: 2

      No, no, no! Good sysadmins are lazy, they don't need to grep through proxy logs when they can run dsniff on the gateway and capture all the great asian schoolgirl sites and the passwords and logins to those sites!

      --
      Try to hack my 31337 firewall!
    4. Re:The Difference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (along with passwords. Thanks, Microsoft Autocomplete!)

      Er, what's Autocomplete got to due with grabbing passwords from proxy logs?

    5. Re:The Difference by Cervantes · · Score: 1

      Who said anything about putting grepping proxy logs together with Autocomplete? Two seperate things.

      One is a convenient way to grab stuff while sitting comfortably at your desk. The other requires heading off to the (l)users computer to do some file pulling/decrypting/etc. Useful for sites that are smart enough not to leave tidbits in the proxy (although those are few and far between.)

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      If I knew the wedgies I gave you back in 6th grade would have resulted in this . . . I might have taken a moments pause.
    6. Re:The Difference by nyseal · · Score: 1

      Now THAT was funny!

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    7. Re:The Difference by No-op · · Score: 2

      my god, someone who knows who mr flibble is AND who dug song is. that's so frickin cool.

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      EOM
    8. Re:The Difference by Phroggy · · Score: 2

      Since when is sniffing packets easier than grepping a proxy log? Log files sound easier to me, and I'm pretty lazy...

      --
      $x='S24;r)>63/* h@<5+oZ)32"5cz';$me='phroggy'x$];
      $x=~y+ -xz+\0-Tx+;print$_^chop$me for split'',$x;
    9. Re:The Difference by Mr.+Flibble · · Score: 1

      Never seen the output from dsniff eh?

      It makes you want to use encryption for everything you do. You can find it here.

      You will never look at your network the same way again.

      --
      Try to hack my 31337 firewall!
    10. Re:The Difference by Ratbert42 · · Score: 2

      I knew I had it made the day my sniffer (which we use for actual work) logged a bunch of traffic to a porn site and we tracked the IP back to the IS head.

    11. Re:The Difference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I take offence at that"

      I take offense that you spell like a canadian.

    12. Re:The Difference by Cervantes · · Score: 1

      I am a Canadian (capitol-C). I also know what a chesterfield is, where basketball and baseball were invented, and can get real beer without having to smuggle it in. And I rarely have to put up with spelling nazis, let alone wimpy-ass AC ones. Whats the matter, your karma too precious?

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      If I knew the wedgies I gave you back in 6th grade would have resulted in this . . . I might have taken a moments pause.
    13. Re:The Difference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I am a Canadian (capitol-C). I also know blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah..."

      I'm sorry? I couldn't read what you said. Like the rest of the world, I instinctively tuned you out after that first part. Could you repeat that please?

      Oh, and is the capitol of canada really called "C" ?? That's bizarre. Fucking canadians...

  13. its not the porn screen i dont want them to see by SirSlud · · Score: 2, Funny

    its the wang in my hand I wish was easier to hide!

    (let the small penis jokes begin. i can take it!)

    --
    "Old man yells at systemd"
    1. Re:its not the porn screen i dont want them to see by Kenja · · Score: 1

      "let the small penis jokes begin. i can take it!" Just tell the boss its an extraneous pinky.

      --

      "Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
    2. Re:its not the porn screen i dont want them to see by Pheersum · · Score: 1

      Just let go, slap the fellow, and follow through with a sexual harassment suit.

    3. Re:its not the porn screen i dont want them to see by l0ckj4w · · Score: 0

      its the wang in my hand I wish was easier to hide!

      Who's wang? I hope you meant yours :P.

    4. Re:its not the porn screen i dont want them to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, with a quick enough hand motion, you could probably make the wang go away, although you'd need to head to the hospital immediately.

    5. Re:its not the porn screen i dont want them to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would be funnier if your first sentence was grammatically correct... I spent about 15 seconds thinking, "What the hell? _The_ wang does not imply a person."... then realized you meant "WHOSE wang".

    6. Re:its not the porn screen i dont want them to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who's Wang? Oh he's Mun Yi's brother. It *could* imply a person, and I would bet in most cases does.

    7. Re:its not the porn screen i dont want them to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      its the wang in my hand I wish was easier to hide!


      Hmm is that reminiscent of the old adage, "A wang in the hand is worth two in the bush"?


      *GRIN*

    8. Re:its not the porn screen i dont want them to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm. Sounds like you've done this before . . .

  14. What platform? by updog · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What platform does this run on... the screenshots show only Windows. Is there a Linux version? The download link doesn't allow you to specify the platform...

    1. Re:What platform? by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


      the screenshots show only Windows. Is there a Linux version?

      Of course not, only Windows-lamers look at pr0n. Open source granola crunchers can get laid for real. :)

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    2. Re:What platform? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      (Score:-1, You Wish)

    3. Re:What platform? by fanatic · · Score: 2

      GPL: Free as in herpes, not as in beer.

      Unless this is sarcasm, you are truly a moron.

      --
      "that's not encryption - it's a new perl script that I'm working on..." - from some Matrix parody
    4. Re:What platform? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whaaaaahhh? GPL *is* a viral license. I think that's a perfect summation. Now the truly free BSD licenses... well...

    5. Re:What platform? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone who calls themselves an "open source granola cruncher" isn't getting laid.

    6. Re:What platform? by grub · · Score: 1


      Anyone who calls themselves an "open source granola cruncher" isn't getting laid.

      Sorry, I should have clarified.. I leave a bowl of granola on the grass. When my sheep go to eat it; sex for me!

      --
      Trolling is a art,
    7. Re:What platform? by or_smth · · Score: 1

      Oh god, I'm never going to get *that* picture of RMS out of my head.

    8. Re:What platform? by nyseal · · Score: 1

      For free as in beer?

      --
      [SIG] Remember Mattel handheld games?
  15. I dunno... by Hayzeus · · Score: 5, Informative
    If they're serious, they're going to be checking logs. If they're REALLY serious, they'll check your machine periodically for unapproved software.

    I've worked plenty of places where IS and IS only were allowed to install ANY software. Even though most of us were developers with years of experience, unauthorized installation of anything was potentially grounds for termination.

    1. Re:I dunno... by truesaer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I've worked plenty of places where IS and IS only were allowed to install ANY software. Even though most of us were developers with years of experience, unauthorized installation of anything was potentially grounds for termination.

      I hate that crap. My last job was like that, and productivity was very poor. You have to move fast, and delaying for a week to get IS to approve and install some kind of utility or program you need is rediculous. Those companies deserve what they get, which is probably bankruptcy.

    2. Re:I dunno... by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 2
      "I've worked plenty of places where IS and IS only were allowed to install ANY software. Even though most of us were developers with years of experience, unauthorized installation of anything was potentially grounds for termination."

      My last (co-op student) job was like that. I actually got an e-mail from them yesterday asking if I was interested in working for them again in January but I said no. (I've got at least one interview coming up soon.) I made sure they knew it was because such policies limit productivity.

    3. Re:I dunno... by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I hate that crap. My last job was like that, and productivity was very poor. You have to move fast, and delaying for a week to get IS to approve and install some kind of utility or program you need is rediculous. Those companies deserve what they get, which is probably bankruptcy.

      Does anybody keep a list of such companies so we know who to avoid (when the tech econ improves and we have choices again)?

    4. Re:I dunno... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I once worked at a place where they bitched at me because I installed emacs. Some horseshit about how they couldn't verify the quality or purpose of it. I also had to wear a tie to that job and program in java.

      I quit after two weeks.

    5. Re:I dunno... by Mike+McTernan · · Score: 1

      You can normally tell these companies at interview...

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      -- Mike
    6. Re:I dunno... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Generally I would tend to agree with you, but I work in an industry where many computer applications fall under Federal Regulations which require you to demonstrate that an application works properly and does not generate erroneous results. (These results are ultimately used to make decisions that can impact human lives.) With Windows DLL-Hell(TM) it is important to exercise some degree of control of the software installed on employee workstations.

      For more typical office situations, I think the solution should be that IT provides an employee with an imaged PC that they will support. If you have trouble with your PC, then you call for help. If the support personnel find unauthorized software on your PC, and they can't solve your problem quickly, then they reimage your PC. If you lose files/settings/whatever, then that is up to you to explain to your boss when you don't get your work done on time.

      Work policy should be based on performance and cost-effectiveness - not on arbitrary rules. If you get your job done, and don't cause other departments to incur additional costs, then you should get a raise, not a dressing-down. On the other hand, if your self-installed software crashes your PC 14 times a day and the support guy is at your desk three times a week, then the line must be drawn.

    7. Re:I dunno... by killmenow · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I can tell you've never been on the other end of this. When you run an IS organization for a large enterprise, you'd better not allow users to install software on their PCs.

      Now, developers could be in a slightly different ruleset. There's no reason they cannot get a "fast-track" approval for software. Or perhaps what's best for them, being developers, is to be cordoned off into their own, isolated, little section of the LAN where they can install any damn thing they want with impunity so they can do their development and testing...BUT, they must know that those machines can and will be reset to IS approved configurations if necessary and anything lost because it was held locally is the developer's fault.

      And not only that, but the policy would require those machines as being unsupported by the general IS infrastructure. The developers would have to support them themselves or a specific team would have to be dedicated as "lab" support.

      I used to be a developer for a government agency and I wasn't allowed to move my PC. I could move the mouse and the keyboard a little...but that's it.

      A lot of large organizations (gov't, hospitals, etc.) work like this. It may be a PITA for you as a developer, but it is manageable...and having an open policy, allowing anyone to install software on their PC is NOT manageable on a large scale.

    8. Re:I dunno... by elvum · · Score: 3, Interesting

      http://www.javassh.org may be of interest them (assuming you can persuade an IS representative to install the J2SE 1.4 RTE with Java WebStart...)

    9. Re:I dunno... by mosch · · Score: 1, Troll

      I'm sure they'll file your complaint where it belongs. in a file marked 'fucking retards'.

    10. Re:I dunno... by Sloppy · · Score: 2
      I once worked at a place where they bitched at me because I installed emacs. Some horseshit about how they couldn't verify the quality or purpose of it.
      Hey, verification is important. Someone should write the author of that program and suggest he make it Open Source!
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    11. Re:I dunno... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "...And not only that, but the policy would require those machines as being unsupported by the general IS infrastructure. The developers would have to support them themselves or a specific team would have to be dedicated as 'lab' support..."
      Big deal. Too often I've run into sysadmins who, having the keys to the kingdom, apparently get hooked on some sort of weird power trip. No competent developer needs this sort of corporate handholding. Save your helpdesk argument for the PowerPoint drones.
    12. Re:I dunno... by fungai · · Score: 1

      delaying for a week to get IS to approve and install some kind of utility or program you need is rediculous

      Yeah, like a spell checker.

    13. Re:I dunno... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No competent developer needs this sort of corporate handholding

      The problem is that not all developers are as great as they think they are. I am a sysadmin for a large bank and we have such a controlling atmosphere. No one installs software except desktop support - period (violation of policy could lead to dismissal). Also, software must be approved by corporate before installation.

      I know a coder who wanted telnet access to various servers because "everyone else in the world does it." He got huffy with me when I explained that we don't do that. Try telling him that transmitting unencrypted data in a non-switched environment (which it was at the time) was insecure.

      Coders don't necessarily know anything about security and everything we do is scrutinized by entire teams of auditors. It is the sysadmins' job to keep the network running and secured, and they will have to explain/fix problems caused by arrogant pricks who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. So deal with it.

    14. Re:I dunno... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can normally tell these companies at interview...

      How? I am dense WRT social subtleties.

    15. Re:I dunno... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, I'm sure thay don't. Not like the F#$%$##ing IDIOT developer that flipped his token ring card to 16Mb and brought down the token ring network. Would still be looking for thaqt bastard if he haden't called to report thet HE couldn't connect!!!

    16. Re:I dunno... by Idarubicin · · Score: 2
      I've worked plenty of places where IS and IS only were allowed to install ANY software.

      In one of my previous workplaces, we had a policy like that. We finally got tired of waiting for the IS guys to install software for us, so we spliced a second PS2 connector on to one of our keyboards. Worked great for extracting the admin's password on his next visit. Probably illegal, but it meant that we were actually able to start getting work done again.

      (Moral of story: any network on which there exist computers that are not physically secured--is insecure.)

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      ~Idarubicin
    17. Re:I dunno... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sysadmined a 4MB token ring network?

      "So this is hell."

    18. Re:I dunno... by loconet · · Score: 2

      Those companies deserve what they get, which is probably bankruptcy.

      Couldnt agree more

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    19. Re:I dunno... by ProfessorPuke · · Score: 2

      Spliced it? A blatant hardware mod like that is begging to be detected. These days we have off the shelf solutions.

      Probably not illegal, only grounds for termination. (Won't stop hyperactive prosecutors from going after you if your ex-boss complains enough, though. This is America, after all)

    20. Re:I dunno... by silverbolt · · Score: 1

      Sounds interesting. Care to give more details ?

    21. Re:I dunno... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're keeping a list, you can start with Consolidated Freightways. Avoid working there--oops. Too late. They went bankrupt.

    22. Re:I dunno... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No competent developer needs this sort of corporate handholding

      OK, which ones are the competent developers? You're going to ask the sysadmin? Har har.

      Once you get out in the real world, you will realize that 20-50% of programmers are blowhards who firmly fall into the "know enough to be dangerous" category. Or maybe you are in the real world and are in that category already.

    23. Re:I dunno... by ledestin · · Score: 1

      There are sure different developers, and the policy of the workplace you work at is geared for incompetent ones, so you probably don't attract many competent ones.

    24. Re:I dunno... by BlueUnderwear · · Score: 1

      Most banks fall in that category.

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    25. Re:I dunno... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is correct. The on-staff coders aren't very good by most accounts. When someone good is needed, they are hired on consultant basis and paid big bucks only as long as they are needed.

    26. Re:I dunno... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True. Hell, it's hard enough to find a competent sysadmin, much less a good coder.

      If you find one who can do both, expect to pay big bucks.

    27. Re:I dunno... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ROFL!

    28. Re:I dunno... by Wakko+Warner · · Score: 2

      Yeah, your KaZaA Lite installation sure increased productivity.

      I'm sorry, but I've worked at places that allowed users to install whatever they wanted, and I'll never work at such places again. You can only listen to stupid fucktards complain they lost all their work after they installed "just this one little program" for so long. (Though, most of the time, they don't admit to having installed it.)

      - A.P.

      --
      "Remember when the U.S. had a drug problem, and then we declared a War On Drugs, and now you can't buy drugs anymore?"
    29. Re:I dunno... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      heh.... My current employer tried to implement something tlike that. I am a programmer for automated production machines. Very specialized software to even connect to the processor, let alone compile, download, etc. Also, very expensive when machines stop working.
      Solution to problem: Set "time bomb" in code to shutdown machine on Friday, about 4:00 (all the IS weasels sneak out early), go out to production floor, and promptly corrupt the development software. Explain to production manager that you cannot fix his machine, due to not being authorized to re-install corrupted software. Wait about 30 minutes. Irritated weasel arrives, cursing the invention of cell phones, and grants full admin rights to laptop.

      Install Starcraft, and other "productivity enhancement" software!

  16. try this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Open Internet Explorer, type in the address line "about:mozilla" and hit enter. Some MSFT engineer was bored...like all of us are reading this shitty news :)

    1. Re:try this by Rushmore · · Score: 1

      The only thing that happened was a blank, blue page?

    2. Re:try this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      then try "about:" and see what you get. notice the difference? why! WHY I ASK YOU?!

    3. Re:try this by Joey7F · · Score: 2

      I just see a purplish or bluish screen?

      --Joey

    4. Re:try this by guido1 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Because of this key in mshtml.dll
      HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\AboutURLs","mozilla",2,"res://mshtml.dll/ about.moz"

      There are also specific keys for:
      PostNotCached
      blank

      Now, how mozilla ranks a key, and that no MS code review found this is anyone's idea.

    5. Re:try this by MattCohn.com · · Score: 1

      Someone's joke that Mozilla/Netscape causes crashes (blue screens). Been their forever. I guess Bill thought it was too damn funny to take out :|

    6. Re:try this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, that was not at all obvious. Let me get this straight. The premise of the joke is when Netscape, an application that Bill Gates hates, crashes, the windowing system crashes with it. This can be really annoying, because the windowing system is tied to the OS in such a way that you will probably have to reboot to get it back--meaning loss of data and pointless delays. The bsod emulation you get by typing about:mozilla is meant to evoke just such a crash. Secure in the knowledge that you're using a superior and crash-resistant Microsoft product, you laugh. :| no kidding

  17. Expand this concept. by cybermace5 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Include a custom peripheral, like Steel Battalion does.

    This peripheral would convert any office chair into an ejection seat, for those times when you absolutely positively cannot get out of admitting you were surfing the web, instead of working.

    --
    ...
  18. bad news for Linux? by tps12 · · Score: 0, Troll

    This is at least pretty innovative, but I sort of wish the Open Source community would focus on something less subversive. If we want Linux to be accepted in the corporate world, we need to move beyond this image of Linux users as pirates, hackers, and perverts. Software like this hinders us more than it helps. Thanks, but no thanks. :(

    --

    Karma: Good (despite my invention of the Karma: sig)
    1. Re:bad news for Linux? by m0rph3us0 · · Score: 1

      I really dont see how this represents OSS, I'm mean would anyone really consider Brilliant Digital (the mal-ware bundled with Kazaa) an example of what proprietary software is.

    2. Re:bad news for Linux? by FatAlb3rt · · Score: 1

      So because you don't want someone to see where you surfing means you're a pervert or hacking? Sounds like you've got a guilty conscience...

  19. Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Standards compliant web browsing in IE!!!

  20. Already checking? by tribes · · Score: 1
    if your sysadmins don't check the proxy logs
    If you have to go to such lengths to surf with confidence, chances are that they have been directed to check and report on proxy activity.
  21. porn does it again.... by nebenfun · · Score: 5, Funny

    yet more proof that porn drives innovation....

    what is the saying? "necessity is the mother of invention"
    it should read
    "horniness is the mother of all invention"

    *crosses fingers* porn industry don't let me down...
    daddy wants a holodeck
    nbfn

    1. Re:porn does it again.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      neccesity... horniness... same difference

    2. Re:porn does it again.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I really think you are on to something.
      How would this explain the moon landings or other space exploration though?
      Perhaps astronoughts have bigger organs when they return?

    3. Re:porn does it again.... by nyseal · · Score: 1

      Some of my best ideas have come from browsing porn....just ask my wife; no wait.....on second thought.....

      --
      [SIG] Remember Mattel handheld games?
    4. Re:porn does it again.... by Col.+Panic · · Score: 1

      That explains why Lance Bass wants to spend $20 million to go to space.

    5. Re:porn does it again.... by Tadghe · · Score: 3, Funny


      > "horniness is the mother of all invention"

      Um close but I think it might be closer to ...
      "Horniness is the mother of all"

      --
      Bugs Bunny was right.
  22. Slashdotted...Download size 9.27 MB by jukal · · Score: 5, Informative
    As the site is already suffering, the download size is over 9 MB and there is not much other information on the site than this...

    Ghostzilla is a browser for surfing the Web when you don't want anyone to physically see what you are doing. It renders Web pages to look indistinguishable from your work screen. You make it disappear instantly with one move of your hand and bring it back with another. Ghostzilla can show Web pages discreetly within literally any application you work with.

    and the screen shots.... I'd believe everyone would be better of if you waited atleast some 30 minutes before hitting that download button. Why?

    ** Here is an analysis of the Slashdot Effect.

    1. Re:Slashdotted...Download size 9.27 MB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If everyone waited 30 minutes to download it, it would merely delay the slashdot effect by.. yep, you guessed it.. 30 minutes.

      No points for original thinking for you.

    2. Re:Slashdotted...Download size 9.27 MB by jukal · · Score: 2
      If everyone waited 30 minutes to download it, it would merely delay the slashdot effect by.. yep, you guessed it.. 30 minutes.

      Excellent! You must be one positive mind if you believe that every single slashdot reader is interested in reading every single comment posted here. Positive thinking will save the world :) In this case, and as a Zen like piece of wisdom for life: everyone == everyone you can make listen.

  23. Oh baby. . . by polyphemus-blinder · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow, this is great! That's because the office is, of course, the best place in the world to oggle porn. Yeah.

    So now instead of seeing the embarrassing sites you're visiting, your boss will only notice more frequent hand...er...mouse gestures.

    --

    It's all going according to .plan.
  24. Ok... by orallo · · Score: 0

    Well that took about 7min 45sec to get /.ed.

  25. Anonymous Browsing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Check out
    www.primedius.com
    You can surf even through corporate proxies without being logged.
    All encrypted, anonymous, etc, etc. Pretty decent speed too...

  26. Hah! by swordgeek · · Score: 2, Funny

    Slashdotted already? Guess that says something about how popular (and necessary!) this is for slashdot readers!

    Of course, I know it was unavailable because I tried to get there asap. :-)

    --

    "People who do stupid things with hazardous materials often die." -- Jim Davidson on alt.folklore.urban
  27. Server "ghostzilla"ed by dereklam · · Score: 1

    Hm... looks like their server has given up the ghost.

  28. Hmm... by Flakeloaf · · Score: 0, Informative

    A good idea guys, 'cept a simple mouse gesture in standard Mozilla already allows you to miniimze or close the browser.

    Better luck on your new invention - a blueness detector that works only on the sky.

    --

    Am I the only one who heard Roxette to sing "I'm gonna get blitzed for some sex"?

    1. Re:Hmm... by No+inspiration · · Score: 0
      Not quite just mouse gestures. It actually renders the web pages in a way that, to a passer-by, you appear to be working on your big marketing presentation and not reading Slashdot.

      To quote the site (since it has, of course, been ./ed):

      Ghostzilla is a browser for surfing the Web when you don't want anyone to physically see what you are doing. It renders Web pages to look indistinguishable from your work screen. You make it disappear instantly with one move of your hand and bring it back with another. Ghostzilla can show Web pages discreetly within literally any application you work with. To see how Ghostzilla makes the illusion of not being there for anyone but its user, take a look at the screenshots and a video of its usage.
      Better than sticking your nose on the laptop monitor, methinks...
    2. Re:Hmm... by cornice · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Did you read anything from the site? It does a little more than add mouse gestures. It puts a black and white web browser window on top of any application (framed in current application) without any borders, buttons, etc. It's certainly not invisible but someone could easily walk by your desk and think you're not browsing the web. All the mouse gesture does is eliminate the browser portion of the screen allowing the original app to shine through. Since human vision is so tuned toward movement this method of hiding draws far less attention than your plain old mouse gesture.

    3. Re:Hmm... by mrsmalkav · · Score: 1

      well, then there are those of us who constantly have a hand on the keyboard. microsoft was kind enough to give us alt-f4, alt-tab, and windows-m . i don't need no steenking mouse to close my browser.

      (it's just those damn 891 pop-ups afterwards that gets me in trouble.... *ahem*)

    4. Re:Hmm... by DMBoyd · · Score: 2, Funny

      good old close window popup exploit. one of the biggest exploits with javascript and it hasnt been limited or anything.
      i remember writing a javascript that not only generated random geocities sites. but opened 30 random geocities sites, each in a new window, and then the page would also open two copies of itself also. so itd double and double and continue to open geocities sites until the cows came home. or the memory ran out.( which is a pretty long time on current pcs)

      i wrote this in response to the fact that our school was monitoring our net usage to make sure we werent playing games (slime voleyball, etc.) through a proxy program placed on a g4 comp.

      this overloaded that proxy. so they removed it.

    5. Re:Hmm... by buttahead · · Score: 1

      minimizing still leaves the browser in the taskbar, and if you have a dark office, people may see the light level change. when this is noticed every time your boss walks in, rumors will start.

      closing the browser isn't an option, as when i find good pr0n, i don't want to loose it.

      finally, and most importantly, the grey-out feature helps disguise questionable material if someone happens to walk by. and you don't have time to close the browser.

    6. Re:Hmm... by Theom · · Score: 1

      Thanks to Mozilla I have forgot how evil people can be.

      --

      mp3: l33t term for empty.
    7. Re:Hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      closing the browser isn't an option, as when i find good pr0n, i don't want to loose it.

      You must be kidding, right?! Don't have access to a news server? You'll drown in porn on a decent server + a program like NewsBin (Excellent, but not free) or Grabit (Great and free).

      So go to it, and get over it.

    8. Re:Hmm... by Flakeloaf · · Score: 5, Funny

      Did you read anything from the site?

      Hell no! If I had actually READ the article, there's no way I could've gotten that smartass comment in in time.

      --

      Am I the only one who heard Roxette to sing "I'm gonna get blitzed for some sex"?

    9. Re:Hmm... by belthezar · · Score: 1

      Wow thanks! I have been hooked on newsbin forever but just did a full switch to linux and been without a great newsreader. Thankfully this grabit, along with being free as in beer, also works under wine at full speed :)

  29. Then again... by dze · · Score: 5, Insightful
    If you somehow get *caught* using this, you're gonna be in huge trouble cause it's obvious that you've gone to some length to conceal your activity. I'd think that looks worse than being "caught" visiting cnn or slashdot every so often.

    And at my work, like most other workplaces no doubt, they check the proxy logs anyways, so it wouldn't be much of a gain. It would be very easy to write a little script to go through and identify the "top" web surfers and to see who's surfing sites with pr0n-related terms, or anonymizing sites.

    <hypocrite>Anyway, you should do your web surfing from home!</hypocrite>

    --

    "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
  30. Normal Mozilla works too.... by reaper20 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Since most of these work spyware programs search for IE specific history, you're still pretty "safe" using normal Mozilla.

    Even the humans do this, seems to me like most of the tech support guys searching for 'inappropriate' material are looking in the IE history anyways.

    1. Re:Normal Mozilla works too.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What kind of moron tech monkeys does your place hire? Running around and looking in people's histories for network activity? Savages.

  31. Off topic but I don't care by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why is slashdotting a site so hilarious to you fools? Every time a story is posted there are a dozen idiots that get modded up to +5 funny just saying "oh gee, look, their site's down"

    1) There's nothing fun about being the admin of that box
    2) The fact that all these sheep are blindly clicking on the link is sad and pathetic
    3) It's just not humorous.

    1. Re:Off topic but I don't care by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, you're just a barrel of monkeys today.

    2. Re:Off topic but I don't care by teamhasnoi · · Score: 5, Funny

      Baaaahhh, Baahhhh, *ClickClickClick* Baaahhh, Baahhhhhhh, *Click*ClickClickClick*ClickClick*

    3. Re:Off topic but I don't care by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know, I hate to say it, but you sound jealous....

      It's really now that hard to put together a setup that could handle the "Slashdot Effect". I have done a few setups to handle this kind of capacity in several ways, from cheaply doing round robin DNS on a couple of low price web servers to full blown clusters with load balancing equipment to maintain sessions, etc.

      Simple fact is that if you can get a machine to handle the type of traffic you would get from Slashdot, why bother putting something online?

      I mean, the goal is for the content to be viewed isn't it?

      With that said I would like to get back on topic and mention that I see no real practical use for a browser that is designed to hide what you are looking for. I do some recreational browsing at work, but the point is that if I should not be viewing the content I don't. If you feel a need to hide what you are looking at while using the COMPANY time and the COMPANY connectivity, then you know you are probably doing something wrong.

      damn I guess I've finally gotten old enough to join the dark side of "The Establishment". Oh well, it pays well.

    4. Re:Off topic but I don't care by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, if it makes you feel any better, I meta-mod 'funny' moderations to unfair 90% of the time, and leave them as neutral the other 10%.

      Also Offtopic.... I really wish the could throttle the number of 'funny' moderations that a user could perform - it really adds nothing to the discussion. If I want a joke, I'll go to The Onion or rec.humor.funny.

    5. Re:Off topic but I don't care by pretoris · · Score: 1

      Sounds like *somebody's* server was slashdotted in recent history....

    6. Re:Off topic but I don't care by Quixadhal · · Score: 2

      So I take it your site was recently slashdotted by a herd of wolly foragers who seemed particularly nervous when hearing zippers?

    7. Re:Off topic but I don't care by yelligsc · · Score: 1

      Maybe its just late afternoon on a friday..

      But!! That really got me laughing.

      I can just picture the sheep blindly clicking on links.

      Scott.

    8. Re:Off topic but I don't care by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 1, Flamebait


      I've never had a server get slashdotted. I haven't even done sysadmin for 2 years. But the fact is, I HAVE done it before and I know what happens when the web server goes down, and it's not fun.

      It's obvious that sysadmin penis compensation thing is what's going on here. Only admins with small dicks/brains/homosexual tendencies would let their servers be slashdotted, right? har har, that's so goddamn funny I just shit my pants from laughing so hard!

      It's the superiority complex that these people have that's fucking sickening. That's why I got out of admin. I knew I wasn't cut out for sysadmin when my 365-day uptime didn't cause me to spontaneously orgasm.

    9. Re:Off topic but I don't care by mabinogi · · Score: 2

      If you're not here to click on the links....then why are you here?

      Please don't tell me it's for the intelligent conversation, and the informed comments....

      --
      Advanced users are users too!
    10. Re:Off topic but I don't care by vsprintf · · Score: 5, Funny

      2) The fact that all these sheep are blindly clicking on the link is sad and pathetic

      Finally! An advocate for the slashdot ethic: Do not read the linked articles, especially if you intend to post a comment. It might change your assumptions or something. :)

    11. Re:Off topic but I don't care by duren686 · · Score: 2

      ...Baaahhhhhh*click*EXPLODE!

      --
      Y2K Compliant since the late 1890s
    12. Re:Off topic but I don't care by liquidsin · · Score: 3, Funny

      4) ???
      5) Profit!

      --
      do not read this line twice.
    13. Re:Off topic but I don't care by nutbar · · Score: 4, Funny

      I take extreme offense at that, I am a New Zealander and my girlfriend does not slashdot sites.

    14. Re:Off topic but I don't care by Kaz+Riprock · · Score: 1

      This parent must have been modded up just to keep the sheep noises joke funny for those that browse higher than a level of 2.

      --
      Mordor...a magical, mythical land where women are more rare than dragons--but where every man would rather find a dragon
    15. Re:Off topic but I don't care by LineNoiz · · Score: 1

      Easy enough answer. Schadenfreude.

      --
      "Quotation is a serviceable substitute for wit." --Oscar Wilde
    16. Re:Off topic but I don't care by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, clicking on links sure is pathetic. Who could ever have imagined that people would be so foolish as to follow links from one document to another on the web? Everyone who matters is 'leet enough to just type in URLs at random.

    17. Re:Off topic but I don't care by qwerpoiu · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Baaah, Baaaaaaaaaaah, *ClickClickClick* Baaah! [runs to telephone booth, changes into... SUPER /. SHEEP!] Baah dah dah baaaaaaaaah! *wget -m --delete after* Baahahahahahaha! *adds cron job*

  32. I wonder if it will work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    in a Mozilla window?

  33. Oh yeah how great.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This has to be one of the most stupid pieces of software ive seen recently. If you need to remove your browser from sight that quickly, you are OBVIOUSLY doing something wrong. Does it seriously make you feel more comfortable "surfing" with an app like this?
    What to think about surfing under heavy system load where switching or hiding apps can take up a little time.. i dont see how this will help if your system takes 1 sec to make your browser disappear and someone walks in..
    Anyway, as i said, i cant begint to describe how stupid this is.

  34. Recursive Browsing? by Saltine+Cracker · · Score: 1

    So can you embed this into a Browser? I spend all day browsing the Internet anyway... I'd hate for my boss to figure out that I'm actually doing my job!

    One could always get a gig working at Playboy, where it's basically mandatory that you have a PB Calendar hanging in your cube...I can't imagine it's a bad thing to check out the competition.

  35. Repost? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I could SWEAR i saw this on /. before, like a year ago

  36. Hrmmm... by Violet+Null · · Score: 3, Funny

    I've had this for awhile. I call it "Alt-Tab"

    1. Re:Hrmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bah... alt-tab bites. I use F1 to go back a desktop, F2 to go forward one, ctrl+up to shade/unshade, ctrl+down to minimize everything associated with an app, and ctrl+left|right to skip between windows. What I tend to do, when feeling lazy is fire up some xterms, and emacs with random code loaded up and speedbar displayed. I then keep my browser, and toys opened on a different desktop and cycle between them using F1/F2 when people come into my office.

  37. And this means... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...what? Surf the Internet freely, knowing that people around you cannot see the Web browser on your screen even if they look directly at it! From it's discription is sounds like it jumbles the web page and rolls it into what ever application you want...be nice to see the screenshots if anyone can get that far, google-cache anyone?

  38. If you use KDE by Shut+the+fuck+up! · · Score: 1

    just to another desktop. keep some work looking stuff open on it.

    1. Re:If you use KDE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      er, in kde is like windows , it switches between apps. in kde switches desktops. or at least it does on my machine....

    2. Re:If you use KDE by odaiwai · · Score: 2

      Of course, when you boss sees that you change whatever you're looking at whenever he approaches, he's going to get very suspicious, no matter what it is.

      Keep it open, and point out something relevant in the background to him. Better to be thought the kind of sad geek who'd look past a beautiful naked woman to examine a server in the backgound, that someone who browses porn at work.

      Honestly, Porn at work? You deserve to get fired. Browse your porn at home.

      dave

  39. Mac users have it easy by teamhasnoi · · Score: 5, Informative
    In OS X you can hit CMD(Apple) H, which 'hides' most apps. Have a doc open in the back and you're all good. For added 'security', have another browser (IE) in the dock for when the boss wants you to look something up, or show you something.

    Now I can read /. all damn day! NOOO000ooooo....

    1. Re:Mac users have it easy by thatguywhoiam · · Score: 1
      I'm not at my OS X box right now, so I can't check and see if they kept it in.. but in Mac OS Classic but it used to be even easier.

      Option-click any open bit of 'desktop' and the currently active app hides. That way you didn't even have to take your hand off the mouse in a hurry when the boss walked by.

      --
      If Jesus wants me it knows where to find me.
    2. Re:Mac users have it easy by RaboKrabekian · · Score: 5, Informative

      In windows you can just hit the windows key-D and all of your applications will be minimized. There are actually a lof functions that you can peform with the windows key - it's not just to bring up the start menu.

      --
      "Moderate drinking can help prevent amputated limbs" -- Abigail Zuger, NYTimes, 12/31/02
    3. Re:Mac users have it easy by pigpen_ · · Score: 1

      Minimize all in WinNT is Windows key-M.

      --
      Zambozay! My brain must've been eatin' a sandwich!
    4. Re:Mac users have it easy by MoneyT · · Score: 2

      As a note, in OS 9 at least, option clicking outside of the application (even into another application) did the same thing.

      --
      T Money
      World Domination with a plastic spoon since 1984
    5. Re:Mac users have it easy by iotaborg · · Score: 1

      And for us with many many buttons on our mice (5 button trackball on my part), just bind a button to cmd+h and you have it made!

      Or if you want gestures, you can get Cocoa Gestures input manager which give you fully configurable gestures in all Cocoa apps, so you can have a gesture to hide in Chimera or OmniWeb or something...

    6. Re:Mac users have it easy by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 2
      In windows you can just hit the windows key-D and all of your applications will be minimized.
      So in Windows you can either get caught with naughty bits on your screen, or just appear as if you were thoroughly contemplating the desktop background...
    7. Re:Mac users have it easy by Drakonian · · Score: 1

      Good point. There are a lot of them I am starting to use frequently, like Winkey + R for the Run command (Like KDE Alt-F2) or Winkey + F for Find Files or Winkey + E for a Windows Explorer window.

      --
      Random is the New Order.
    8. Re:Mac users have it easy by idmcgowan · · Score: 1

      Other Usefull ones are:
      Win + Pause/Break = System Properties
      Ctrl + Shift + Esc = Task Manager

  40. what about stuff like Surfcon by jetskijoe · · Score: 1

    How about the programs that monitor your IP and usernames at work. Not just the history file on your desktop!! Now there would be a program to come up with!

  41. Xaoswolf Needs Sleep Badly by Xaoswolf · · Score: 2
    office chair into an ejection seat

    thinking about people looking at pr0n at work. Read that as ERECTION seat.
    Gave me a very strange mental image. I think I'm going to go to sleep now...

    *Shuts door, puts head on desk, hopes the boss doesn't walk in*

    1. Re:Xaoswolf Needs Sleep Badly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're going to go to sleep after thinking about erections?

      Sweet dreams, fag-ass.

  42. lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Riiiiiiiight... and the next thing you are going to tell us is that Windows is stable.

    Dork

  43. Tech support guys... by unicorn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    looking for "inappropriate" material, usually need look no further than their own history folders.

    --
    "Politicians are interested in people. Not that this is always a virtue. Fleas are interested in dogs." P.J. O'Rourke
  44. Wank @ work like all telecommuters 8) by DrSkwid · · Score: 2

    you can even schedule it in to your diary.

    turn the web cam back to base off tho.

    --
    There are places where the networks are not touching,and there are places where they are-Boeing's Lori Gunter
  45. Source? by jmd! · · Score: 2

    Since I don't have access to Windows, and their download is an EXE, I can't check myself, but if their download includes the browser itself, isn't this a license violation? Where's the source?

    If it's installed on top of/under a seperate Mozilla install, all is fine.

    Can someone take a look at what's inside that .EXE for me?

    1. Re:Source? by flippet · · Score: 3, Informative
      The licence page says the source is available at http://www.ghostzilla.com/source/. At the moment I'll have to take their word for it, it's thinkin'...

      Phil, just me

      --
      "Cattle Prods solve most of life's little problems."
    2. Re:Source? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Can someone take a look at what's inside that .EXE for me?

      Sure, man!

      Hmm ... let's see ... It starts with alot of binary numbers, anyway.
      Ok ... more binary numbers here. Binary, binary, binary ... Ooops! The file ended there!

      Yeah, binary all the way.

    3. Re:Source? by mabinogi · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ok, repeat this out loud, and slowly untill you understand:

      IT'S OK TO DISTRIBUTE BINARIES CONTAINING MODIFIED GPL SOFTWARE IF YOU PROVIDE THE SOURCE ON REQUEST FOR NO MORE THAN THE COST OF DISTRIBUTION.

      http://www.fsf.org/licenses/gpl.html Section 3b

      The offer to obtain the source has to accompany the binary...and since you can't be bothered even opening it to find out, I don't think you have the right to be claiming license violation.

      --
      Advanced users are users too!
    4. Re:Source? by ensignyu · · Score: 1

      It seems to be up now. I downloaded the .tar.bzip2 and extracted it. There's a license, a readme, and 51 source files in various directories, that maps onto the mozilla source distribution.

      Since I'm not familiar with the Windows API, I'm not sure how it works.

  46. Cheryl Tiegs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Damn, boy, HOW the HELL ---OLD--- are you anyway?

  47. Yeah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Her BOOBIES!!!!! omfg roflmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  48. Actually.... by unicorn · · Score: 1

    Try putting "about:xxxxx" (replace x's with a word" then compare that to "about:mozilla"

    Kinda interesting, at least.

    --
    "Politicians are interested in people. Not that this is always a virtue. Fleas are interested in dogs." P.J. O'Rourke
    1. Re:Actually.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what's really fucked up is when you put in:

      about:goatse.cx

    2. Re:Actually.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's brown!

  49. Tales of Tony and his 3d mouse pointer by stinky+wizzleteats · · Score: 1

    So as you can see, sales for this portion of the quarter, right here on the graph...

    DOH! Ah..., hehe, one second. How did that get there?

  50. Other nice work utilities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This website. Nintendo Java applet.. play nintendo with a java applet.. good for when you can't install new apps on your work machine :-)

  51. Old dos games by ch-chuck · · Score: 2, Redundant

    used to have a 'The Boss Is Coming' button - when pressed the screen instantly changes into something like a Lotus 1-2-3 spreadsheet. Once the danger has passed you press it again to get back into your game where it was.

    Another DOS stealth trick: create a directory named ALT-255, it doesn't show up in dir listing. We'd put the games in there. That doesn't quite work in Windows tho.

    --
    try { do() || do_not(); } catch (JediException err) { yoda(err); }
    1. Re:Old dos games by dubious9 · · Score: 1

      Thanks for bringing back memories of high school. I learned extended ASCII just so I could obfuscate porn folders on the network. :-)

      --
      Why, o why must the sky fall when I've learned to fly?
  52. I think I'm safe at work... by unicorn · · Score: 4, Funny

    One of the VP's here complains about getting too much porn spam at his work address. Not because he's opposed necessarily, just because it's all straight, and he's definitely NOT. I browsed his bookmarks accidentally when I was messing with Outlook for him. He's got quite the collection of favorites.

    And apparently at the company staff only Xmas party a year before I started, he was tanked enough to scream "holy shit, she's got tits" about one of the interns that had only been around a few months.

    I love my job. However, I think our HR manager hates hers.

    --
    "Politicians are interested in people. Not that this is always a virtue. Fleas are interested in dogs." P.J. O'Rourke
    1. Re:I think I'm safe at work... by Col.+Panic · · Score: 1

      Eww - you touched his keyboard!

      My coworker was searching for unnecessary files to delete from the LAN so we could free up some space and ran across 122 gay porn pics and movies in a user's directory.

      Long story short I was ... reluctant to fix his laptop when something went wrong. <shudder>

    2. Re:I think I'm safe at work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I browsed his bookmarks accidentally when I was messing with Outlook for him. He's got quite the collection of favorites.

      Right. We totally know what you mean.. I mean we all "accidentally" sift through our homosexual VP's batch of bookmarks all the time, too. I'm sure it was an honest mistake. No, for serious. No wonder you like your job.

      And you can stop lying about that intern. We all know you're the one with the tits, you fat bastard.

  53. One website already does this for you by orangepeel · · Score: 1

    If you're one of the last three people on the planet who hasn't seen the famous "zefrank" site, then take a look at it now, and notice the three small, colored squares at the top left (a blue one, a white one, and an orange one) next to the advertising. The white one is an attempt - in keeping with the hilarity of the rest of the site - at providing a, "the boss is coming, hide this site!" button. You can take a look directly if you prefer.

    By the way, it's worth installing Flash in order to tour his site.

    --
    Whoever designed level 61 in Frozen Bubble is a sadistic bastard.
  54. encrypted proxy by mozkill · · Score: 1

    it would be nice to be able to browse the internet at work through a completely encrypted proxy so that the only thing the company sysadmin could possibly see is the domain name of the proxy machine and the amount of traffic...

    does this kind of thing exist?

    --

    -- Betting on the survival of the media industry is a serious risk. I advise investing elsewhere.
    1. Re:encrypted proxy by Nihilanth · · Score: 2

      sure it does.

      but when your company sees you pumping traffic through an anonymous/encrypted proxy, they'll assume the worse and..well..you get the idea.

    2. Re:encrypted proxy by fawadhalim · · Score: 3, Informative

      Sure. Set up squid on your home box, and do

      ssh -L 3128:localhost:3128

      set localhost:3128 as your proxy address.

    3. Re:encrypted proxy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      $10 bucks says they never find out, don't care, or just don't know what is going on to find your encrypted proxy.

    4. Re:encrypted proxy by epmos · · Score: 1

      Note for IE users: Be careful of leaking DNS information. IE wants to resolve things with the local resolver. And encrypted tunnel always going to hide that fact that you left the 'All-Hands' company meeting and started surfing hotjobs.com.

  55. Any resolution??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Screen resolution in the pictures here is 800x600, but Ghostzilla works with literally any resolution and any size and position of any application window."

    C'mon, they can't be serious! A program that runs in any resolution? That would totally rock. ;)

  56. legalize it? by mrsmalkav · · Score: 1

    i thought it was "thc is the mother of all invention"?

    those damn stoners keep coming up with new things all the time, man. you shoulda *seen* the motivation my classmates had towards building new bongs. custom glass blowing and all!

  57. Linux efficiency by TheFlu · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I run WindowMaker on Linux and I hot-key the switch workspace command to ALT-1 (next workspace) and ALT-2 (previous workspace). It's extremely efficient to simply leave terminal windows and applications maximized in their own workspace and just hop between the screens when you need to switch to a different app. It's like tabbed browsing, once you get used to it, it's hard to go back to the old way.

    1. Re:Linux efficiency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I run WindowMaker on Linux and I hot-key the switch workspace command to ALT-1 (next workspace) and ALT-2 (previous workspace). It's extremely efficient to simply leave terminal windows and applications maximized in their own workspace and just hop between the screens when you need to switch to a different app. It's like tabbed browsing, once you get used to it, it's hard to go back to the old way.

      !!Hey, this works in FreeBSD too. :P

      I actually just use Alt-[left/right arrow] to zip back/forth... Just make sure you still have "stuff" on the virtual screen you're zipping to, so you still look busy.

      -yb

    2. Re:Linux efficiency by Ribo99 · · Score: 1

      I used to work quite a bit in Windowmaker at my old job and this functionality was quite a wonderful eye-opener. Luckily there's a few windows versions of this for us poor saps who have to use 2k at work.
      This one is my favorite and I've used it for a few years now.

      --
      I wear pants.
    3. Re:Linux efficiency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not "Linux efficiency", it's X11/WindowMaker efficiency.

      Someone could have done exactly the same thing on any system with X11 running WM.

    4. Re:Linux efficiency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
    5. Re:Linux efficiency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      KDE does this. Try "CTRL-TAB".

  58. The BOFH Difference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't forget the SysAdmin who checks the proxy logs, and subtly lets you know what he knows, so that you can start budgeting for blackmail payments. >=)

  59. this I like by Maskirovka · · Score: 2

    Nothing like giving the lusers a false sense of security!

  60. YOu are the biggest fucking karma whore in the... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    universe.

    get a life, seriously.

  61. Re:Thank fuck by Real+World+Stuff · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Aloha Gaz. You forgot -cartoon-. Best Regards, and don't be a stranger.

    --
    If we don't fight for ourselves no one will.
  62. I tunnel all web, pop, smtp, and IM traffic on SSH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I tunnel all web, pop, smtp, and IM traffic on SSH

    This makes me feel somewhat secure. (No, not porn, I place a couple of bets on gambling sites every day. Not evil or even a big waste of productivity, but certainly grounds for dismissal.)

    Basically this makes me feel comfy because I know I'm smarter than the Ops folks around here.

    BUT... I still use their DNS servers. Is anyone monitoring DNS lookups to watch employees? I tried to tunnel DNS too before realising that shit ain't over TCP (I can hear you all screaming "DUH!")

    One thought is that maybe I should just put the questionable sites I use in my HOSTS file to prevent lookups on their DNS servers. (I dual boot my work machine w/win2k and Mandrake, but could easily check this file into my CVS server to share between different OS's. )

    Any friendly advice for a struggling enemy of the state?

  63. More porn-related addons for Mozilla by jesser · · Score: 5, Informative

    Pornzilla Modifications - stealth profiles, image zoom, view (but don't download) all linked images, go to next/previous thumbnail gallery or image.

    Leech - download all links from a page that have an extension in your list of extensions to download. The author didn't figure out how to send referrers with the requests, which is annoying because many porn sites require a correct referrer header, but there are several workarounds included with Leech.

    --
    The shareholder is always right.
    1. Re:More porn-related addons for Mozilla by samrolken · · Score: 1

      Is there something I'm missing about viewing but not downloading?

      --
      samrolken
    2. Re:More porn-related addons for Mozilla by jesser · · Score: 1

      That should have been "view but don't save", rather than "view but don't download". Sorry for the confusion.

      --
      The shareholder is always right.
    3. Re:More porn-related addons for Mozilla by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pornzilla Modifications - stealth profiles, image zoom, view (but don't download) all linked images, go to next/previous thumbnail gallery or image.

      Leech - download all links from a page that have an extension in your list of extensions to download. The author didn't figure out how to send referrers with the requests, which is annoying because many porn sites require a correct referrer header, but there are several workarounds included with Leech.

      This is for pussies! (Please take no offense.) If you want to know how real men get their porn, here's one of my scripts. I substututed part of the domain name with XXX so it doesn't work, because I don't want to cause a total internet apocalypse with my bad-ass script multiplied by the slashdot effect. And yes, it properly handles HTTP referer headers. It needs only bash and wget which are parts of the GNU system, so any GNU/Linux OS has them already.

      #!/bin/bash
      mkdir d; cd d; for z in `seq -w 2 20`; do for y in a b c d; do b=http://www.buttXXXXXXXX.com/$z/00$y; mkdir $z$y; cd $z$y; for x in `seq -w 1 100`; do f=$x.jpg; u=$b/$f; if [ -f $f ] || [ -f $f-nf ]; then echo "$0: s $f"; else echo "$0: G $f"; wget --referer=$b -c $u; if [ ! -f $f ]; then touch $f-nf; if [ $x -gt 4 ]; then break; fi; fi; fi; done; cd ..; done; done; mkdir s; cd s; for f in ../d/*/*.jpg; do l=`echo $f | sed 's/^\.\.\/d\///;s/\//-/;'`; ln -sfv $f $l; done mkdir t; cd t; for f in ../s/*-001.jpg; do ln -sfv $f .; done

      Yes, this is one big line; and yes, I am a crazy son of a bitch. I got many gigabytes of porn that way, using literally hundreds of such little scripts, this is just one of them, selected randomly for this post. This is what this one little script has downloaded:

      xxx@fw8:~/pix/s209/d20/m$ echo `ls s|wc -l` jpegs, `cd d;du -sh`
      1034 jpegs, 60M .

      You do it like this:

      1. Go to some free TGP website
      2. Find a gallery of your choice
      3. If it's like www.xxx.com/gal2034/pic0017.jpg than try different numbers and a pattern which will find other galleries and pictures or movies
      4. Write a custom site-specific script downloading all of the pictures. Sometimes you got to use referer headers, sometimes you got to forge user agent headers, sometimes wait random intervals between hits, whatever -- just try to outsmart the webmaster, the chances are he's stupid enough to trust the client, almost all of them do. For best results use bash/wget or perl/lwp, whichever suits you and this particular website best.
      5. ???
      6. Profit!!!

      I post it as AC because I'm ashame of my little hobby, 'nuff said.

  64. use fluxbox and switch desktops with mouse wheel by Corporate+Gadfly · · Score: 1

    Fluxbox is my current window manager. You can go to any empty area of the desktop and use the mouse wheel to change your workspace. Or you can bind a hot-key to take you to the next/prev workspace.

    So, do your nasty business in one workspace. Have an alternate workspace ready with nice Eterms/aterms/xterms/rxvt (whatever is your poison) and you are good to go.

    --
    Corporate Gadfly
    Jonathan Archer: the most beaten up Enterprise captain in Star Trek history
  65. encrypting images by u19925 · · Score: 3, Funny

    yeah, and i have a even more smarter browser. it encrypts all displayed images, so no one knows that the image on the screen is p0xxxrn.

  66. Kleenex by chargen · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's why we all keep boxes of kleenex on our desk.

    Duh!

  67. Browse all you want to... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    the google cache of the site

    "we dont need no stinkin karma" - maxKarma posse

  68. Slashdotters are 61% Windowashers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Raise the troll shields.

    The proof is out there:
    http://www.openchallenge.org/slashdot_effe ct.php?b eef=1

    Slashdot visitors to that site:
    61% Windows
    22% Nix
    6% Mac

    Screw getting worlwide market penetration, let's work on getting /.ers off that Gates crack first...(said the man running Win98SE).

    zeke

    1. Re:Slashdotters are 61% Windowashers by yelligsc · · Score: 1

      Its about 4pm Central time.

      Most of us are using Windows at Work.

      Scott.

  69. (i.e, if your sysadmins don't check the proxy log) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thats what we do.

    No actualy we send them to /dev/null, but incase of trouble this is what we would do.

  70. It works by commodoresloat · · Score: 2
    just checked it out. cool!

    That way you didn't even have to take your hand off the mouse in a hurry when the boss walked by.

    Not off your mouse, no. But you will need the other hand for the option key.

  71. Can the kde guys do something like this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Loading the KHTML kpart in to any application, it should be possible, but does some thing like this exists?

  72. Mirror by RudeDude · · Score: 2, Informative
    download ghostzilla

    Mirror provided by Mr HOSTBOT

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    RudeDude
    Perl/Linux/PHP hacker
  73. My favorite part... by Namtar · · Score: 1

    Was that accursed real player icon idiotically blinking in the system tray on the screen shots page.

    God, I hate the people at real so much.

    --
    Linux. Because a 386 is a terrible thing to waste.
    1. Re:My favorite part... by King_TJ · · Score: 2

      Man, no kidding. I run the old RealPlayer 8.0 or whatever it is - because their newer versions are screen-wasting, bloated crap.

      Nonetheless, I want the ability to hear an RA stream - because sometimes, it's just darn useful.

      Unfortunately, the stupid RealPlayer keeps blinking to tell me I need to upgrade to their newer software, and I can't find a way to stop it.

      Someone oughta write a small patch/hack to de-blink that damn thing!

  74. Proxy Server? Hee... by xanadu-xtroot.com · · Score: 2

    Just put in your own DNS info in your TCP/IP settings, and disable the proxy server setup, and there's no issue (minus a packet sniffer, of course, but...). What's the issue? Am I missing something (seriously, that's an honest question, I've gotten around several proxy logs this way)?

    --
    I'm not a prophet or a stone-age man,
    I'm just a mortal with potential of a super man.
  75. For linux you have by phorm · · Score: 2

    Hmmm... well in linux you've got:

    a) Lynx/Links... hmmm: If your boss sees you checking out ASCII nudes he/she will probably just shrug and think you're more crazy than perverse.

    b) Gnome's *"Multiple desktops" through which to carry on both your work and another to browse slashdot or the "other" activities mentioned quite often

    *WinXP has this too with TweakUI, but the taskbar doesn't change so and all it really does is reposition windows, making it a lame and semi-useless knock-off. Too bad as I find this one of the most useful features of the linux GUI.

    1. Re:For linux you have by crisco · · Score: 2

      Turn off Shared Desktops and the TweakUI thing for XP works a little more like the *nix desktops that inspired it.

      --

      Bleh!

    2. Re:For linux you have by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That finally explains the multiple desktop thing. I thought it was "uhh ... cool" when I first saw it, and never have found the need. Well, ok when I had a really slow laptop I ran it so I could leave the windows open full screen and switch desktops rather than toggle apps.

      But for porn - the desktop pager is the perfect "hide my desktop" utility!

    3. Re:For linux you have by crisco · · Score: 2

      But then the missing feature is 'send to desktop X', allowing you to organize desktop sets.

      --

      Bleh!

    4. Re:For linux you have by numark · · Score: 1

      Don't forget Opera's handy little mouse gestures. If you're lucky enough to have a wheel mouse, you can have various windows open in MDI mode, and to switch between them quickly, hold down the right mouse button and use the wheel to switch between windows. Be sure to have something like 10 windows open so titles don't show very much in the status bar ;-)

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    5. Re:For linux you have by snake_dad · · Score: 2
      b) Gnome's *"Multiple desktops" through which to carry on both your work and another to browse slashdot or the "other" activities mentioned quite often

      For windows: go here and download multidesk. Does the job quite well.

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      karma capped .sig seeking available Slashdot poster for long-term relationship.
  76. Re:Proxy Server? Hee... by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 2

    Doesn't help if the gateway is intelligent enough to log your traffic....

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  77. So the mouse gesture just hides the browser window by Chef_TM · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... instead of closing it? That aint that useful u know. I can envision many situations when it could make things much worse.

    Back in the day when I blindly opened executable file attachments without thinking, (Hey I was a kid, I didn't know about viruses and network security. I thought MS-DOS was an original, fully functioning operating system!!) I used to get lots of those comical programs designed to embarass you while at your desk. You know, the ones that opened up a porn pic of a man playing with himself, that u just couldn't close. Well one such time I received the goatse.cx picture via this method. I went to kill the process. It died. Phew, lucky escape. Little did I realise, that it had spawned a child process. Suddenly I had loads of little windows with scaled down goatse.cx pictures. So I turned off the screen. To my (and the rest of the JAM PACKED computer lab's) horror, a mans voice singing. "GIMME SOME ANAL LOVING" blared over the speakers....

    So basically no amount of hand waving will save your job, if your boss looks at a computer screen full of windows containing work relevant source code, while he hears the moans of a hentai anime school girl being pleasured by a giant robot.

    Not that I have ever.. er.... seen such... errrr... material like that errr... ever. No really. I haven't.

    I hate this forum. It makes me sig as a dog

  78. Re:Known troll do NOT mod up! by Anonymous+Cowrad · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    "known troll"

    Quit it with your McCarthyism. Trolls are people too, and sometimes they're funny or insightful.

    "Are you now or have you ever been a troll?"

    Sheesh!

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    --
    pants ahoy
  79. Mozilla by [cx] · · Score: 1

    How many specialized browsers do they need? Get some god damn plug-ins.

    All I need is phoenix but for the people that "need" to look at porn or conspiracy theories or anything else that your boss might not like.

    Just have an option for "Stealth Browsing" Why the whole new browser?

    I think they should make a browser that displays everything upside down called WOOOOWWzilla!

    [cx]

    1. Re:Mozilla by Da+VinMan · · Score: 2

      I happen to agree with the plugin sentiment. That said, I still recommend trying this thing out. It may not be a technical victory per se, but it's still damn cool. I can't get over how fast it works. I may never really use it, but it's still damn cool.

      Damn cool. 'Nuff said. :+)

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  80. I don't know what this means by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can someone please explain the joke.

    1. Re:I don't know what this means by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Americans were recently stripped of much of their privacy by the Patriot Act, which was a reaction (read: justified by) the the 9/11 terrorist acts.

      You might have heard about those things. Or not.

  81. suspicious? by SHEENmaster · · Score: 1

    Which would be more suspicious for a windows coder to have: An open excel worksheet or a BSOD?

    The boss key in all of my winshit software(made w/ a virtual mac inside of Linux! I swear!) just initiates a BSOD. A crash, nice and simple. It saves the game first btw.

    --
    You can't judge a book by the way it wears its hair.
    1. Re:suspicious? by Raafje · · Score: 1

      You mean when someone pushes the boss key you'd actually try to make windows do something? Or did you just try the BSOD API call ? :)

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      Slashdot: News for stuff, Nerds that matter!
    2. Re:suspicious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which reminds me... in Win2k there's an option to enable BSOD-on-command via some registry hackery. CTRL-ALT-SysReq? Something like that. Would make an excellent boss key! =)

  82. Thank god for Google by Masami+Eiri · · Score: 1

    Google's cache I love how they are charging 19.99 for a derivant of a free product... doesn't that violate the GPL?

    1. Re:Thank god for Google by loconet · · Score: 2

      doesn't that violate the GPL? ... Nope

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      [alk]
    2. Re:Thank god for Google by istvandragosani · · Score: 1

      Mozilla isn't GPL

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  83. You will be busted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Just try this lame attempt at subterfuge at my workplace and I guarantee you a trip to HR followed by a summary firing of your ass. Admins checking proxy logs? Give me a break, you should be worried about admins such as myself who sniff all outbound traffice through the gateway. If you wanna get some people fired in a hurry, install dsniff on a gateway and watch the fun begin. We use this with some nice little ngrep ( or even grep ) scripts to log dubious traffic. We have also used tcpdump to catch the little fuckers who try and circumvent our appropriate usage policy. Hell, even ntop will work if you like to click around stats.

    1. Re:You will be busted by Tiny+Elvis · · Score: 1

      Thank you Nick Burns.

    2. Re:You will be busted by g0bshiTe · · Score: 0

      Thanks for giving me the keys to your system !
      SysAdmin Have a nice day!

      --
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  84. to hell with that.... by nooboob · · Score: 1

    ...just combine porn and browsing ( http://www.searchwithporn.com/ ) as directly as poosible and be proud of your perversions.

  85. ssh by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Actually, ssh with the right switch can be a SOCKS proxy all by itself; no squid required.

    'Course my /. threshold is high. Maybe someone already pointed that out.

  86. Re:I tunnel all web, pop, smtp, and IM traffic on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Point your DNS settings to one of the free DNS services such as (crap, hello Google?)OpenNIc (that ain't quite what you want) or this one: http://soa.granitecanyon.com/

    Course you're going to have some 'splainin to do if you get caught doing this...

  87. Re:I tunnel all web, pop, smtp, and IM traffic on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, I wonder if this would work. In my case, I control the firewall so I let dns requests out. In corporate settings, are DNS requests from client machines (i.e., machines besides the proxy server) firewalled?

    Anyone?

  88. Where's the source? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    From: http://www.ghostzilla.com/legal/license.txt

    2. RESTRICTIONS: You may not: (i) reverse engineer,
    decompile, or disassemble the Software, except for
    portions of the Software created from source code governed
    by Netscape Public License or Mozilla Public License; (ii)
    modify, or create derivative works based upon the
    Software; (iii) distribute copies of the Software or its
    parts; (iv) remove any proprietary notices or labels on
    the Software; or (v) resell, lease, rent, transfer,
    sublicense, or otherwise transfer rights to the Software
    or its parts.

    3. USE AND AVAILABILITY OF OPEN SOURCE CODE. Portions of
    the Software were created using source code governed by
    the Netscape Public License (NPL) and the Mozilla Public
    License (MPL). The original source code for the portions
    of the Software governed by the NPL and MPL is available
    from http://www.mozilla.org under those licenses. Covered
    Code (as defined in MPL) that was combined with Licensor's
    proprietary code not governed by MPL to form a Larger Work
    (as defined in MPL) and whose result is the Software, is
    available for download at no charge at
    http://www.ghostzilla.com/source. This Agreement in no
    aspect limits or alters your rights in the Source Code
    version as defined in the MPL.

  89. What they don't know won't hurt them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Friend of mine works at a place which only allows HTTP/HTTPS traffic to pass the proxy. It's not port-based firewalling, it's packet inspection. If it isn't HTTP, it doesn't go thru.

    His solution? He developed a java applet which gives him shell access to a Linux box (which also is running a webserver, necessary to serve the applet due to java security). It tunnels over HTTPS to a session running in userspace on the server. He doesn't need root to make it work, either.

    Since it's HTTPS, the admins can't see what he's seeing, all they see is traffic to and from the site where the applet resides.

    1. Re:What they don't know won't hurt them by Electrum · · Score: 2

      Friend of mine works at a place which only allows HTTP/HTTPS traffic to pass the proxy. It's not port-based firewalling, it's packet inspection. If it isn't HTTP, it doesn't go thru.

      His solution? He developed a java applet which gives him shell access to a Linux box (which also is running a webserver, necessary to serve the applet due to java security). It tunnels over HTTPS to a session running in userspace on the server. He doesn't need root to make it work, either.


      There is a much easier solution: use Corkscrew.

  90. so cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And the great thing is, Mozilla is so fast that I'm sure your screen will be restored in just 10 or 20 seconds!

    Actually, despite its speed, I do use Mozilla, even on my 233 MHz Pentium system, because speed isn't everything...

  91. Thanks Slashdot by CanadaDave · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Great, now thanks to Slashdot every boss knows of Ghostzilla's existence. Although what boss would have the nerve to suspect an employee of using Ghostzilla, and ask him or her to press CTRL-ALT-DEL in Windows to prove it. Is there also a "KILL" mouse gesture? I mean a way to kill Ghostzilla from memory so that there is no evidence? Thanks.

  92. Anonymous Browsing Websites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aren't there websites that will anonymise (eeew new word ;) ) your browsing over a "secure" connection. (Of course, they're probably run by the CIA, but the CIA probably doesn't care if you waste time at work as long as you aren't looking for black market smallpox.)

  93. Must be for IE lusers by idiotnot · · Score: 1

    I clicked on the little boxes....I thought it didn't work at first, until I remembered that I'd set Galeon up so that popups open in new tabs...but that kind of defeats the purpose here....

  94. Where I work they use proxies and mete out access by crovira · · Score: 2

    from the LANs to the web with an eye dropper and only through "twice firewalled" intranets.

    Good thing too. Its a bank with networks of OLD pentium machines running NT 4.0 SvcPk 6. (Sniffers of any kind would degrade performance so severely as to be noticable!)

    Production systems run on mainframes and connect via encrypted leased lines that have no connection from the mainframes to the 'Net.

    Can't be too careful with financial systems.

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  95. True Story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Years ago, I was running a firewall for my company(this was back when firewalls were "BRAND NEW" and "MYSTERIOUS".

    Anyway, at the same time, my wife was working for a company for a real asshole boss.

    Keep reading, this gets better.

    Anyway, she ended up quitting a long-time job because she couldn't stand her asshole boss.

    Well, after she left, that company pretty much went down the toilet and he was looking for a job. It turned out he got a job with my company.

    I think you can see where this is going.

    We only kept aggregate logs; the security guy and I had the unwritten rule on porn...once or twice was an accident, more than that was surfing for porn.

    Well, one day, we noticed a lot of hits to some site that sounded "porn-ish" if you know what I mean.

    I checked the site, and sure enough it was porn. Not only that, but it was men on boy gay sex. Hoo-boy.

    We checked back on the IP address...you guessed it, her old boss was surfing gay kiddie porn at work.

    Got his sorry ass fired within 8 hours. My wife to this day will forgive me almost anything when she remembers getting her old asshole boss fired for gay kiddie porn.

    Seriously, this only happens in sitcoms, but this time it happened in real life.

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

    1. Re:True Story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL

      That is too cool. And funny :)

    2. Re:True Story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Mine's not as good as yours, but it does involve porn, so it's hopefully amusing.

      About 6 years ago I did a /who in my IRC client to see who else from my domain was out there on the same network. I saw another dialup host from my same school that belonged to one of the staff members - in other words, not a student like me.

      The thing is, he was in some non-secret channel, and it showed the channel name in the /who - something like #momsonsex. So I got a friend on the phone, and we created some bogus-looking account names on his personal system so we could run around undetected. Then we dialed into an ISP instead of our school for even more cover, and proceeded to join that channel.

      After a couple of minutes, we had him thinking that we had good stuff, when we were just sending random Unix binaries and other junk. The thing is, he was sending us (a couple of high school kids) the real thing!

      All of this isn't too unusual, so here's the reason you read down this far.

      This guy was a high school counselor. What's more, he happened to cover the chunk of the alphabet that my last name falls into. I reported the mess to the admin in charge of the school's system and basically never saw him again.

      "gyp-c": didn't it ever occur to you to not use a public school district's computer system for your porn?

  96. The rule is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whenever anyone says something isn't funny, that means its probably the most fucking hilarious thing on the planet.

    So when you say "Its just not humorous", that means its Really REALLY humorous.

    Honestly.

    Don't be such a...a...uh...an...asswipe. You come off like a 16 year old who tells the fifteen year old that "you're sew im muh tyoor"

  97. My personal favorite: by kikta · · Score: 2

    A rather verbose memo about not putting the seat up before you take a leak. :-D

  98. Depends by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 2

    If you are an accountant and the figures for next quarter are REALLY GOOD they might just give it a miss. :)

  99. The rain on windscreen in The Matrix by newr00tic · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Very offtopic, but ever noticed how the rain animates itself down the back-window of "the car where the critter/bug is extracted"? It looks like matrix-code behaviour to me. Anyway, on my planet there's no rain moving quite like that rain does..

    ...yeah, yeah.. offtopic


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  100. Slashdotted right off the server by panxerox · · Score: 0

    The site is saying that their account has been suspended.

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  101. Ghostzilla link no longer dead... by jpetts · · Score: 1

    Well after a while I went back to take another look at Ghostzilla, and guess what?

    The account has been suspended by the ISP, presumably for data transfer limits or simultaneous connection limits being exceeded.

    Now, everybody jokes about the /. effect, but is some cases it could turn out not to be too funny, especially if somebody is relying on a site for financial/emotional/whatever support. I don't know what can be done about it, as it is rather like the tragedy of the commons: everybody will rush to be there first, and bang goes the resource. I was going to post a screenshot, but I am afraid of my site being slashdotted...

    Anyway, is there such a thing as a secodary /. effect? Now that the site has been suspended, will people go to it by clicking here and create furhter problems for the ISP?

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  102. easy solution by otis+wildflower · · Score: 1
    • run multiple desktops in X + your favorite WM
    • bind the 'switch desktop' to alt-f1 or something
    • just switch between desktops


    typically I'll have a desktop devoted to terminals, one devoted to work browsing + email, and one for goofoff.. Or at least I did when I was on salary. Now I have a TiG4 that does everything, though I need to find a multiple-desktop for Aqua..
  103. Ghostzilla link here: by methangel · · Score: 1

    For all those that are curious about Ghostzilla since the domain ghostzilla.com hath been suspended. Hurray for the Slashdot effect!

    http://asia.cnet.com/downloads/pc/swinfo/0,39000 58 7,39026803s,00.htm

    1. Re:Ghostzilla link here: by methangel · · Score: 1

      Sorry! Here's the "real" link!

      http://download.com.com/3120-20-0.html?qt=ghostz il la&tg=dl-2001

  104. Pearls before swine n/t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what i said

  105. All too true by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 2
    "It's too late, the slashdot effect has excorcized this ghost."

    I loaded the site shortly after the article first came out and it was just dead. Clearly, it was slashdotted.

    But I loaded it just now and look what I got: "Account for domain ghostzilla.com has been suspended." Is it possible that we pushed the site over a hosting-set bandwidth limit?

    Seriously, there should be a policy when it comes to posting links to small servers on the front page of slashdot. The owners of the pages should be contacted for permission, and if possible mirroring so that the site is not blasted into oblivion.

    Posting links on slashdot is destructive and this is a perfect example -- it got a person's account suspended! Instead of spreading the ghostzilla love around, it was annihilated. Not good at all.

    1. Re:All too true by kaustik · · Score: 0

      Why don't you write a song about it, you whiny little bitch.
      If you don't like what Slashdot does, don't support it. I bet you sing songs about peace and love while lathering yourself up with some Procter and Gamble soap-product in the shower, fucking hypocrit.
      I'm getting tired of people complaining about this, but still visiting the site and clicking on the pretty little links. I'm all for slashdotting sites (click click click).
      Excuse me, I have to go flood ping some non-profits.

    2. Re:All too true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Completely agree with you there.

  106. Re:Proxy Server? Hee... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or if the admin is bright enough to redirect port 80 to the proxy server *anyway* - the phrase "transparent proxy" comes to mind.

    (or if the proxy is the only way of browsing anyway).

  107. Browsing at Work w/ PC Anywhere by SteakJerky.com · · Score: 1

    Does anyone use PC Anywhere to browse at work? You can simply login to your home computer where there are no logs that your boss can scour through.

  108. Then how the hell did they approve windows? by cheekyboy · · Score: 0

    Explain that Mr

    *I now wait 20 seconds ..........*

    (damn i get a too many junk characters, so i edit it to
    *I now wait 20 seconds ...*

    Damn, now i get a 20 second message, STUPID SCRIPT, it should know that to fix an error can be done in 20seconds....

    So now I wait another 20 seconds... pray that I dont get any more warnings... here goes.

    [SUBMIT]

    Damn more warnings on junk characters.... god damn it.

    [SUBMITS] *AGAIN* (after 20seconds)

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    1. Re:Then how the hell did they approve windows? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Explain that

      Easy - who do you think approves OS purchases? Bean-counting management and the line of business. Also, the upper management of technology is usually disassociated from the technology by the time they have advanced to the decision making stage so Microsoft is rubber-stamped.

      Unfortunately.

  109. Re:but this is ok? by cheekyboy · · Score: 0

    Ok, so you cant surf porn, but you can
    put your playboy in your desk and read it during "compile times".

    At least in slavery times, you could take a 5min break in the barn and have some fun with a farm girl or other slave girl. Sure kept you working 12hrs a day if you had one girl every 2hr break.

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  110. Only on slashdot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Could you see

    More porn-related addons for Mozilla (Score:5, Informative)

  111. No... by Robber+Baron · · Score: 2

    So in Windows you can either get caught with naughty bits on your screen, or just appear as if you were thoroughly contemplating the desktop background...

    No...you do a screen capture of some important looking shit and use the "set as wallpaper" function!

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  112. Or, Perhaps by DimitryP · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You could try working at work? After all, when I go to work, my boss expects me to work. Using the internet is not something that should need to be hidden. If you have a job, you go to said job to earn a paycheck. To earn said paycheck, perhaps you should try, you know, doing your job. It's what we normal people do.

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  113. Leisure Suit Larry Boss Button by JoshMKiV · · Score: 1

    The first LSL game had a boss button. It wouldn't let you back in the game after you used it though. Doh!

  114. Kens Labyrinth by IcEMaN252 · · Score: 1

    Ken's Labyrinth and the Hugos had that feature too.

    Ken's was a very poor shooter I once downloaded off the Apogee BBS. Hugo was an adventure game that I, come to think, got from the same place. Back when I thought my 14400 baud modem was cool because all the other kids on the block had 2400 bauds.

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  115. Re:The rain on windscreen in The Matrix [OT] by willie150 · · Score: 1

    No, you're not the first to think of that. What about the scene where Mr. Anderson is in the boss' office getting the 'you have a problem' speech while 2 guys wash the window? Look closely, and the soap/water pattern on the windows looks a lot like matrix code.

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  116. RE: Proxy Server by fiver · · Score: 1

    If the SysAdmin does what the majority of the ones I know do (including myself), they will not allow your machine to make outgoing connections regardless of what DNS settings, etc you use. The point is to force people to use the proxy. If you want to make connections outside the organization's network, you get monitored because you set the firewall rules to only allow the proxy(ies) to make the outbound connections.

    If you could bypass the proxy by unchecking use proxy (ignoring the case of the transparent in-line proxy) what's the point of having one in the first place?

  117. Re:I tunnel all web, pop, smtp, and IM traffic on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't know about corporations, but I can tell you for sure that at least one public school district network out there filters egress on port 53, because I put it there myself.

    It's all about being a good net neighbor. Anyone who's spewing queries like that out of my network is most likely unconfigured and is going to annoy someone. Look at the comments about bad DNS queries in that story on here from yesterday about network traffic.

    Another funny thing about DNS: one of the networks which I control is a transposition of a very large Canadian DNS server's network. Guess what happens when some luser out there screws it up and starts querying me instead...

    It took me awhile to figure that one out, but now that I know what's happening, sometimes I fire up a BIND with a fake root zone and take them for a ride. You think you're going to cnn.com? Muhahaha... You think that's your POP3 server? Nope, and thanks for the free passwords! Hey, you didn't HAVE to ask my network a DNS question, but you did and you trusted the response anyway.

  118. Eh oh Woohoo! by tenjah · · Score: 1

    Oh wow! That's great!

    I can't wait to get back to the office on Monday and start playing "will I or won't I get fired?" browsing for porn.

    Shit, Monday mornings are boring as hell anyway

  119. Thanks man! by tenjah · · Score: 1

    Oh wow! That's great! I can't wait to get back to the office on Monday and start playing "Will I or won't I get fired?" browsing for porn. Shit, Monday mornings are boring as hell anyway.

  120. Ah, so this is why.. by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 2

    So finally we know what MS had in mind when they allowed any application to take control of any window and do anything they want to it. Well thanks MS after all! A local root exploit is just a minor feature if we get to do this with it too!

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  121. Hey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can we retire the "^H^H^H^H^" thing yet? I mean, it was a real gut-buster the first 1000 times a saw it. Now all I do is giggle uncontrollably. I think the magic is gone. Thank you so much for listening.

  122. windows keys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    win-d: desktop
    win-m: minimize all
    win-r: run
    win-f: find
    win-e: explorer

  123. Windows already has this feature. by default+luser · · Score: 1

    Assuming you have Windows 98 or later:

    Open Windows Explorer and type in your internet address on the bar. Boom, you're browsing the net with Windows Explorer, and when it's minimized it looks inoccous enough. Warning though, earlier versions of IE-integrated explorer don't display the internet address on the minimized icon, but the versions that come with Win2k and XP do.

    EVEN BETTER: SURF THE WEB WITH YOUR MSDN BROWSER!

    Most of you folks who code have MS Visual Studio on your machine. Open up MSDN and click on Go, URL. Type in the URL ( and I mean a COMPLETE URL, don't leave out the http://, this is a primitive browser )

    The good thing about this is it NEVER shows the internet address in the title bar / minimized bar, and unlike Windows Explorer it REALLY looks like you're doing something.

    In fact, there are LOTS of products out there with HTML browsers built in, you just have to look for them.

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  124. Enough of the fuc^H^H^Hstupid ^H jokes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    God DAMMIT, these are getting SO retar^H^H^H^H^Hoverused and obnoxious! They're not funny! Stop with the ^Hes! My brain is oozing out of my earholes!

  125. Re: Slashdot at work by King_TJ · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hey, I'm totally with you -- but not everyone works for an "enlightened" boss (or bosses above your direct boss!). At my last job, I read Slashdot daily. (On slower days, at least once a morning and again in the afternoon.) I really considered it relevant and work-related too. I mean, sure, I skipped anything that was just a movie review or talk of a new arcade game....

    But I was always the first to have knowledge of new updates and fixes for new security risks, as well as good suggestions for the occasional software for a special niche need.

    Unfortunately, I also took a lot of flack from the "higher-ups" for my appearance of "doing nothing constructive" when people from other departments walked by and saw me "web surfing". I had to justify my usage time and time again, and it seemed like each time only quieted them down for a few weeks at the most.

    Eventually, I ended up losing that job. Can't really say it was over reading Slashdot, but I have the sneaky suspicion it didn't help matters any. Given a similar situation at a new job, would I do it all over again though? Yeah, absolutely. The net's biggest problem is a lack of quality sites that cull through the really interesting and relevant news, and put it in one place. Sure, you can go read ZD stuff and get the "party line" opinions on everything - but beyond that, there's Ars Technica, Slashdot, and a handful of respectable sites for hardware benchmarks and reviews. Other than that, though, what do you have? Would a company think it's a better use of time and money to buy those multi-hundred dollar a year "Dr. Dobbs Journal" subscriptions and have you read those??

  126. Re: approval for software installations by King_TJ · · Score: 2

    Personally, for most companies using a Windows NT/2000 or XP type environment - I think they should make more use of the concept of the "power users" group (or security groups along those lines).

    While it's really not manageable to let users go loading anything and everything they like on their PCs - it's just about as bad when the opposite is true. I worked in that type of environment before, and with only 250 or so total PCs in the whole environment - we often had to waste considerable amounts of time loading special software onto people's PC by "special request". Especially for people like engineers; they receive quite a few "30 day trials" of expensive programs they want to evaluate before making decisions on what to use for a project.

    I think the best solution is to grant users software installation privileges on a case-by-case basis, by dropping them into the proper security group. In fact, if you're worried about them abusing it - just add them to the group only for a temporary time-window (say, 1 week from the time they request it). That lets them do whatever they need to do, and still keeps them from abusing their access level months down the road. (Not only that, but as an admin, you know changes made that might be adversely affecting something else had to be done by only certain people, within a certain time-frame -- so you can more quickly isolate/fix them.)

  127. Re:The rain on windscreen in The Matrix [OT] by newr00tic · · Score: 1


    thanks.. I didn't notice that until you said it.
    Another cool thing;

    Cypher: "We have to look at it [the matrix] in code, as it would be impossible to de-crypt it all..

    DvD/DeCSS-Jon: "done!"

    yeah, the saddest joke this year.. =)

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  128. better than sharks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    masturbating to shark videos is scary. masturbating to sweet sweet numbers is much better.

  129. Sorry... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry dude...both of these eventually point back to the suspended ghostzilla.com domain.

  130. Hiding your browser at work by FKnight · · Score: 1

    Apparently, all of the people responding to this missed the part about the fact that the computer on your desk at work DOES NOT BELONG TO YOU.

    You people bitch, bitch, and bitch again about how shitty Microsoft software is .. but you have no qualms about Windows having shitty lock-down ability for workstations ... of course you don't --- those failings of Windows let you install software without your sysadmin knowing about it.

    How hypocritical indeed.

    I have an idea --- when you're at work - DO WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. If you want to browse the web, use the web browser that's already installed.

    Bottom line is --- if you are installing software on the computer at work without authorization, YOU NEED TO BE FIRED.

  131. Forgive me if this is a stupid question... by Dthoma · · Score: 2

    ...but will this extension work with Phoenix? Phoenix is based on Mozilla, but I'm not sure if its stripped-down manner will let this work.

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    1. Re:Forgive me if this is a stupid question... by Da+VinMan · · Score: 2

      GhostZilla isn't an extension. It's a whole nuther browser, like Phoenix. Just try it.

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  132. It already HAS a boss key by thundt · · Score: 1

    Alt-Spacebar n.

    (Not fast enough? Turn off General>Window animation in TweakUI.)

  133. Re: approval for software installations by truesaer · · Score: 2
    Thats a good idea. I was really referring to developers when I posted my comment, not the travel department or something. I'm doing hardware debug work, and if for example I need to install a packet sniffer to see why the LAN isn't working correctly on my board I just need to get that done.

    Our systems here are primarily our problem. I don't think they really support the things we do beyond reimaging the drive if it is truly hosed. We all have access to ghost anyway, and I've learned from experience to keep images of systems when you have them in a specific configuration you're going to need for testing, etc.

  134. Standard reply. by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    And of course all the out of hours work, over time unpaid call time and on-call duty are company time.

    How do we dare to steal from our company. Hod do we dare to make up for the time that was suppossed to be personal.

    We bastards.

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  135. Last Post! by alpg · · Score: 1

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    complexities. Years of study in musty classrooms were prerequisite to
    obtaining even a dim, incoherent knowledge of science.
    Today all that has changed: a dim, incoherent knowledge of science is
    available to anyone.
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