Maybe Slashdot should have a front page article on Kroeger. I understand they have lowered prices on cantelopes this week.
Shouldn't the limited front page space on Slashdot be reserved for interesting stuff? Or is Apple on the verge of buying hAndover or OSDN or whatever the overlords of Slashdot are called these days??
Huh? I broke it down into three 'historical periods' there.
Period (1) as listed in my comment covers the timesharing era.
Technologically, an X terminal is a computer that only runs one program: an X server. That's also called a Terminal. Break open any later-era dumb terminal, (i.e. a VT220, older terminals like Lear-Siegler ADM3A's had hardcoded TTL logic) and you'll find a Z-80 or similar chip, a ROM with the terminal emulating code for the Z-80 to run, etc. A X terminal is similar, just more advanced. In history between 'dumb terminals' and X terminals you have things like VT-100 terminals with Regis Graphics upgrades, etc.
Maybe you're too young to remember VT-100 terminals running Regis Graphics, though....
A problem with this whole 'embarass them into change' tactic is: you're talking about antagonizing exactly the people who have to make the decision of what software to run. I just can't see the people rising up with pitchforks and being able to effectively demand a switch in software. It seems almost like the public clamoring to demand a certain brand of paint be used, or that the oil be changed in the government fleet of trucks at a particular interval.
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Yes, but I want to run the same apps on an X server on any other machine on my network. The directFB apps won't do that. Once we start down an 'applications bound to a single framebuffer' path we're all stuck using KVM switches, VNC, and similar kludges; or we have to plant our butt in front of each machine to run graphical software on it. And both options suck.
I have found that people who hate the X Window System are people who don't understand it. Many come from a PeeCee background and still don't get the idea that the network means more than 'that drive over there on a server' and HTML.
For the record, the Adobe apps on my Windows box are all paid for.
As soon as you start running warez, you might as well not have paid for anything on your machine. It's a slippery slope thing, and it opens you to having your whole machine confiscated.
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X Terminals were never cheap enough to compete with single-user computers for most applications
To the contrary. Power users like to have a whole network of computers at their disposal. I have a half dozen at home and they all do different things. Some are off in back room space because I can connect to and use them on my main box. A number of them don't have keyboards or displays attached at all, just the power cord and an ethernet cable.
Your notion of 'single-user computers' is obsolete. Who wants to be limited to one machine? I know I don't, and am certain there are a bunch of us out there who won't. The state-of-the-art has shifted from: 1. Time sharing- one computer many people.
on to: 2. One computer per person.
and now: 3. One person, many computers.
And what this DirectFB is aimed at is dragging everybody back to One computer per person. Sorry, not happening.
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I'm not a Linux user. I run NetBSD on various platforms around my home network.
DirectFB sounds like it's more tightly bound to Linux than I like my gui frameworks. Maybe it will make the 'Linux desktop.' Maybe it will be the 'killer fork' that finally makes Linux so un-UNIX that UNIX people can just quit dealing with Linux.
Actually, for lots of us, (one could say 'for the rest of us') OSX is the Powerbook killer. It might be a cool OS platform, but since all our Adobe apps, etc. are the Windows versions, etc. etc. the fact that the Powerbook only runs OSX kills it as an option. Where binary OS lockin is concerned, why switch from one lockin (Windows) to another (OSX)?
Unless you've bought into Apple's desktop systems, buying an Apple notebook means having to maintain two seperate sets of software to run on your systems.
I look at the Powerbook and shake my head because I have too much fairly good and rather expensive Windows software. If I'm going to run a second software platform (which I do) I want it to be a free software platform. I'm not interested in investing lots of money in applications for yet another properietary OS.
I guess if I had an unlimited amount of money to spend, the Powerbook would be worth considering. But then if I had an unlimited amount of money I would get an IBM PPC based laptop to run AIX and/or NetBSD on.
Apple sued in what is referred to as 'the look and feel suit' along with Lotus. They sued various other developers who produced GUI code that 'looked' like Macintosh.
When did IBM take Microsoft to court in concert with Apple?
And your last comment. Being anti-Microsoft means anything you assert has to be taken at face value? And anybody who doesn't agree with your Apple-marketing(?) contrived 'history' is pro-Microsoft?
You buy the thumbed up copy that everybody has been digging through for reference, while drinking coffee from the store's coffee bar. It's the only copy they have. The spine is dirty but you pay full price.
Remember, Apple was the company who tried to sue anybody who made a competing GUI product.
If Apple had won that particular suit, you'd be paying Apple a royalty every time you installed another copy of XFree86. Luckily, Microsoft blew them away in court.
They're litigious folk. Like the MPAA and the RIAA, much of their revenue comes from 'image' and they have to protect that image.
Okay. So we know that the guys who put *stars* around words for emphasis instead of, say, using a few html tags for a similar effect are dual booting.
That much has been established.....
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We really, really, need some of the BSD trolls to come out with a 'Bluetooth is dying' crapflood.
Oh, wait. Bluetooth really is dying. That would contradict the whole notion of trolling on when something isn't dying....
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That sounds like an UL. If I were going to steal the engine out of somebody's Volkswagen, I definitely wouldn't stick around long enough to install another one in it's place.
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Is there an in-dash MP3/Ogg player for 6 volt ignition?
Here is 'Estados Unidos' we have the same sort of fanatics who have done all the damage in Quebec trying to balkanize and divide. The Democrats are hoping to turn the Hispanics into a nice cordoned off voting block they can keep dependent on them to pander to, like the blacks.
Happily, the Hispanic community doesn't seem to buy into it all that well.
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Elitism is important. It helps boost self esteem.
And it builds brand loyalty when a product mostly has to go on marketing and hype to justify a higher price.
Jealousy of Apple?? WTF??
Maybe Slashdot should have a front page article on Kroeger. I understand they have lowered prices on cantelopes this week.
Shouldn't the limited front page space on Slashdot be reserved for interesting stuff? Or is Apple on the verge of buying hAndover or OSDN or whatever the overlords of Slashdot are called these days??
Huh? I broke it down into three 'historical periods' there.
Period (1) as listed in my comment covers the timesharing era.
Technologically, an X terminal is a computer that only runs one program: an X server. That's also called a Terminal. Break open any later-era dumb terminal, (i.e. a VT220, older terminals like Lear-Siegler ADM3A's had hardcoded TTL logic) and you'll find a Z-80 or similar chip, a ROM with the terminal emulating code for the Z-80 to run, etc. A X terminal is similar, just more advanced. In history between 'dumb terminals' and X terminals you have things like VT-100 terminals with Regis Graphics upgrades, etc.
Maybe you're too young to remember VT-100 terminals running Regis Graphics, though....
A problem with this whole 'embarass them into change' tactic is: you're talking about antagonizing exactly the people who have to make the decision of what software to run.
I just can't see the people rising up with pitchforks and being able to effectively demand a switch in software.
It seems almost like the public clamoring to demand a certain brand of paint be used, or that the oil be changed in the government fleet of trucks at a particular interval.
Yes, but I want to run the same apps on an X server on any other machine on my network. The directFB apps won't do that. Once we start down an 'applications bound to a single framebuffer' path we're all stuck using KVM switches, VNC, and similar kludges; or we have to plant our butt in front of each machine to run graphical software on it. And both options suck.
I have found that people who hate the X Window System are people who don't understand it. Many come from a PeeCee background and still don't get the idea that the network means more than 'that drive over there on a server' and HTML.
Exactly what is so "proprietary" about Mac OS X that is scaring you away?
It should be fairly obvious, but people seem to not notice.
Mac OS X only runs on a single source of hardware. That makes it extremely proprietary.
For the record, the Adobe apps on my Windows box are all paid for.
As soon as you start running warez, you might as well not have paid for anything on your machine. It's a slippery slope thing, and it opens you to having your whole machine confiscated.
X Terminals were never cheap enough to compete with single-user computers for most applications
To the contrary. Power users like to have a whole network of computers at their disposal. I have a half dozen at home and they all do different things. Some are off in back room space because I can connect to and use them on my main box. A number of them don't have keyboards or displays attached at all, just the power cord and an ethernet cable.
Your notion of 'single-user computers' is obsolete. Who wants to be limited to one machine? I know I don't, and am certain there are a bunch of us out there who won't. The state-of-the-art has shifted from:
1. Time sharing- one computer many people.
on to:
2. One computer per person.
and now:
3. One person, many computers.
And what this DirectFB is aimed at is dragging everybody back to One computer per person. Sorry, not happening.
I'm not a Linux user. I run NetBSD on various platforms around my home network.
DirectFB sounds like it's more tightly bound to Linux than I like my gui frameworks. Maybe it will make the 'Linux desktop.' Maybe it will be the 'killer fork' that finally makes Linux so un-UNIX that UNIX people can just quit dealing with Linux.
Actually, for lots of us, (one could say 'for the rest of us') OSX is the Powerbook killer. It might be a cool OS platform, but since all our Adobe apps, etc. are the Windows versions, etc. etc. the fact that the Powerbook only runs OSX kills it as an option. Where binary OS lockin is concerned, why switch from one lockin (Windows) to another (OSX)?
It's something that I don't understand.
Unless you've bought into Apple's desktop systems, buying an Apple notebook means having to maintain two seperate sets of software to run on your systems.
I look at the Powerbook and shake my head because I have too much fairly good and rather expensive Windows software. If I'm going to run a second software platform (which I do) I want it to be a free software platform. I'm not interested in investing lots of money in applications for yet another properietary OS.
I guess if I had an unlimited amount of money to spend, the Powerbook would be worth considering. But then if I had an unlimited amount of money I would get an IBM PPC based laptop to run AIX and/or NetBSD on.
Apple sued in what is referred to as 'the look and feel suit' along with Lotus. They sued various other developers who produced GUI code that 'looked' like Macintosh.
When did IBM take Microsoft to court in concert with Apple?
And your last comment. Being anti-Microsoft means anything you assert has to be taken at face value? And anybody who doesn't agree with your Apple-marketing(?) contrived 'history' is pro-Microsoft?
Welcome to the big, real, world.
If you want your cheese sandwich on whitebread, it's over there in the corner.
You buy the thumbed up copy that everybody has been digging through for reference, while drinking coffee from the store's coffee bar. It's the only copy they have. The spine is dirty but you pay full price.
Remember, Apple was the company who tried to sue anybody who made a competing GUI product.
If Apple had won that particular suit, you'd be paying Apple a royalty every time you installed another copy of XFree86. Luckily, Microsoft blew them away in court.
They're litigious folk. Like the MPAA and the RIAA, much of their revenue comes from 'image' and they have to protect that image.
Wow. I've never seen that bitmap before. I guess I clicked 'light' in my preferences a long time ago now...
Yes. NeXT makes a fine software product.
Too bad it hasn't got that much to do with Apple.
Okay. So we know that the guys who put *stars* around words for emphasis instead of, say, using a few html tags for a similar effect are dual booting.
That much has been established.....
We really, really, need some of the BSD trolls to come out with a 'Bluetooth is dying' crapflood.
Oh, wait. Bluetooth really is dying. That would contradict the whole notion of trolling on when something isn't dying....
That sounds like an UL. If I were going to steal the engine out of somebody's Volkswagen, I definitely wouldn't stick around long enough to install another one in it's place.
Is there an in-dash MP3/Ogg player for 6 volt ignition?
Here is 'Estados Unidos' we have the same sort of fanatics who have done all the damage in Quebec trying to balkanize and divide. The Democrats are hoping to turn the Hispanics into a nice cordoned off voting block they can keep dependent on them to pander to, like the blacks.
Happily, the Hispanic community doesn't seem to buy into it all that well.
Oh, come on, now.
We don't need any little white flags.
How would France help? By lobbing in le nuke? They only do that in the South Pacific.
French culture isn't dead. Another dose of penicillin might do it, though.