Again, the free-market is the backbone of any free society...
Wait a minute here. A little bit ago the quote/paraphrase(?) from Nader was:
"One thing people need to remember is that the free-market is not an inherently Good Thing. It is simply a tool, and can be a very good or a very bad thing."
Now that's not so? When will it be again? When it's convenient rhetoric?
Bear in mind that there are a huge number of noncommercial stations -- usually religious or npr-affiliated -- that don't play into the revenue equation.
Wow! You mean there are all those different voices out there in the radio market!?!
Then what's the big hubub about? Is this another made-for-the-media crisis to drive membership in advocacy groups and pump up the contributions?
One thing people need to remember is that the free-market is not an inherently Good Thing. It is simply a tool, and can be a very good or a very bad thing
I'm sure that I will not be alone in contending that a Free Market is an inherent part of Freedom. It's when people start viewing ends (Freedom) as a dispensable means that trouble begins.
A Free Market is NOT simply a tool. Freedom is NOT simply a tool. It's distressing that this isn't obvious to everyone.
I really detest it when people play shell games. Tax cuts cut the taxes that people pay. It's not 'taking away' money to cut taxes, it's ceasing to take away money.
I really, really wish big tax-n-spend liberals would be honest. Put it right on your platform and campaign literature, busters: You want to raise our taxes.
Are you kidding? Putting Linux on systems will reduce 'much of the hardware costs'??
Did you notice the price mentioned in the article on these machines? $850 is well beyond the reaches of many, many people in the First World and completely beyond the reach of people in the Third World.
Are you implying that the Linux Sofware installed on those systems is like the color halftone 'photographs' that come for free in purchased picture frames?
Because that's likely the case. It certainly is in a lot of WalMart computers.
Why do you list three unrelated issues (music CD sales, software copy protection, movie theatre security) as if they have to do with a bond of trust on the internet. One would think that if you wanted to offer a strong arguement you would discuss something related to Web Browsers.
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Funny only in the same sense that road kill smells funny after a day or two.
You'll find places all around the world where speaking of 'the crimes of the Soviet Union' (and bear in mind, Stalin was in charge, but he had a large complicit appartaus beneath him) will get one glared at. Stalin and his heirs have been very successful at covering up their crimes against humanity. To this day 'useful idiots' worldwide resonate with the sentiments his regime promoted.
Or he could have said 'Stalin killing 20 million Russians' but, then, one of the real honest to goodness crimes against humanity is how few people even think about that one without getting all nervous that someone is going to accuse them of being a 'McCarthyite.'
Users don't care about the OS crashing. They care about the application crashing. And users of dedicated machines in a research lab care about a dedicated set of applications. So it makes no difference if the application crashes the OS or the application itself just crashes. The user is going to say 'the computer crashed again' and the whole user/root timesharing mindset of the freenixes will be irrelevant.
Likewise, the most critical data on a system actually used for productive work is the user-writable data in the home directory and/or on the shared user-writable network drive. Again, it makes no difference that the OS can't be screwed up by the user. If a script s/he downloads from somewhere smokes his/her home directory, the significant damage is done.
a Linux distribution is almost *all* 3rd-party software
That statement demeans the whole purpose of what's called a 'distribution.' A 'distribution' is and should be a tested and known well-functioning collection of software made into a usable system. That's radically different from the third party software a user drags in from, say freshmeat and inflicts recklessly on a system.
I don't get the preachy 'hear that Windows users' blather that goes on here all the time. Anybody with any sense at all uses both Linux and Windows, and perhaps some other OSes as well.
It's only idiots and zealots who try to force an either/or proposition.
That guy who appropriated the 'Robert X. Cringely' moniker (it was used by multiple writers until he glommed onto it to milk it for his livelihood) is still publishing his screed?
Manager B: "Hey Joe? How come none of the computers on the third floor will even boot up anymore? "
Manager A: "I dunno. Those are the people with the new 'security' machines. They won't boot up if they can't reach that server at the security company. Did that paranoid creep on the IT staff tighten the firewall again, and this time the whole accounting staff can't get onto their machines?"
Manager B: "Maybe this time they'll fire the little creep. He's way behind on restocking paper for the printers anyway."
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Again, the free-market is the backbone of any free society...
Wait a minute here. A little bit ago the quote/paraphrase(?) from Nader was:
"One thing people need to remember is that the free-market is not an inherently Good Thing. It is simply a tool, and can be a very good or a very bad thing."
Now that's not so? When will it be again? When it's convenient rhetoric?
Bear in mind that there are a huge number of noncommercial stations -- usually religious or npr-affiliated -- that don't play into the revenue equation.
Wow! You mean there are all those different voices out there in the radio market!?!
Then what's the big hubub about? Is this another made-for-the-media crisis to drive membership in advocacy groups and pump up the contributions?
You merely discredit yourself by claiming that NPR isn't biased to the left.
It's really that simple.
Pretty much the rest of everything.
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I know, I know. .
One thing people need to remember is that the free-market is not an inherently Good Thing. It is simply a tool, and can be a very good or a very bad thing
I'm sure that I will not be alone in contending that a Free Market is an inherent part of Freedom. It's when people start viewing ends (Freedom) as a dispensable means that trouble begins.
A Free Market is NOT simply a tool. Freedom is NOT simply a tool. It's distressing that this isn't obvious to everyone.
I really detest it when people play shell games. Tax cuts cut the taxes that people pay. It's not 'taking away' money to cut taxes, it's ceasing to take away money.
I really, really wish big tax-n-spend liberals would be honest. Put it right on your platform and campaign literature, busters: You want to raise our taxes.
They probably pay sales tax, too, and road tax for their car's license plate.
What does it have to do with them not getting a 'tax cut' that brings their income tax down below zero??
But keep in mind that part of this linux movement is making an OS that your grandmother would be comfortable using.
Huh? 'this linux movement'?? I think you mis-understand the difference between rhetoric and chest-beating on slashdot and anything important.
'linux' is about cool Unix-like stuff. It's not a 'movement' to wage holy war on some perceived 'evile corporation.' Get over it.
Are you kidding? Putting Linux on systems will reduce 'much of the hardware costs'??
Did you notice the price mentioned in the article on these machines? $850 is well beyond the reaches of many, many people in the First World and completely beyond the reach of people in the Third World.
Are you implying that the Linux Sofware installed on those systems is like the color halftone 'photographs' that come for free in purchased picture frames?
Because that's likely the case. It certainly is in a lot of WalMart computers.
It's sort of amusing, in hindsight, seeing people now propose AOL do something that would 'be unreservedly a Good Thing for the Net as a whole.'
As if AOL is gonna rescue the Internet or something.
The irony of it screams out.
Why do you list three unrelated issues (music CD sales, software copy protection, movie theatre security) as if they have to do with a bond of trust on the internet. One would think that if you wanted to offer a strong arguement you would discuss something related to Web Browsers.
Funny only in the same sense that road kill smells funny after a day or two.
Personally, I find a VTVM suits my needs better than any fancy DMM.
;-)
If you're going to go lean and mean why not go analog?
Mostly through starvation during the 'great leap forward' when they stumbled backward.
You'll find places all around the world where speaking of 'the crimes of the Soviet Union' (and bear in mind, Stalin was in charge, but he had a large complicit appartaus beneath him) will get one glared at. Stalin and his heirs have been very successful at covering up their crimes against humanity. To this day 'useful idiots' worldwide resonate with the sentiments his regime promoted.
Or he could have said 'Stalin killing 20 million Russians' but, then, one of the real honest to goodness crimes against humanity is how few people even think about that one without getting all nervous that someone is going to accuse them of being a 'McCarthyite.'
Users don't care about the OS crashing. They care about the application crashing. And users of dedicated machines in a research lab care about a dedicated set of applications. So it makes no difference if the application crashes the OS or the application itself just crashes. The user is going to say 'the computer crashed again' and the whole user/root timesharing mindset of the freenixes will be irrelevant.
Likewise, the most critical data on a system actually used for productive work is the user-writable data in the home directory and/or on the shared user-writable network drive. Again, it makes no difference that the OS can't be screwed up by the user. If a script s/he downloads from somewhere smokes his/her home directory, the significant damage is done.
a Linux distribution is almost *all* 3rd-party software
That statement demeans the whole purpose of what's called a 'distribution.' A 'distribution' is and should be a tested and known well-functioning collection of software made into a usable system. That's radically different from the third party software a user drags in from, say freshmeat and inflicts recklessly on a system.
It's 'incredibly great' or whatever other Apple Marketing slogan is now current.
That's definitely a throwaway comment.
Very few modern OSes even use the BIOS beyond a boot loader. Certainly Linux doesn't use BIOS calls past that point, and NT is the same.
There may be a few exceptions, but for the most part the BIOS is a thing of the past. A boot-time Utility set, and nothing more.
Actually he's of Swedish descent but his family lives in Finland.
da bing da bop da boop.
I don't get the preachy 'hear that Windows users' blather that goes on here all the time. Anybody with any sense at all uses both Linux and Windows, and perhaps some other OSes as well.
It's only idiots and zealots who try to force an either/or proposition.
That guy who appropriated the 'Robert X. Cringely' moniker (it was used by multiple writers until he glommed onto it to milk it for his livelihood) is still publishing his screed?
It's kind of amazing that as long as they're 'our' fascists they seem to be okay with some people.
Manager B: "Hey Joe? How come none of the computers on the third floor will even boot up anymore? "
Manager A: "I dunno. Those are the people with the new 'security' machines. They won't boot up if they can't reach that server at the security company. Did that paranoid creep on the IT staff tighten the firewall again, and this time the whole accounting staff can't get onto their machines?"
Manager B: "Maybe this time they'll fire the little creep. He's way behind on restocking paper for the printers anyway."